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How a Growing Number of People Identifying as Disabled Could Impact Workplace Accessibility

2025/3/10
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Mariana Aspuru: 我注意到,随着越来越多的公司要求员工返回办公室,越来越多的员工开始寻求基于心理健康诊断的职场便利。这在残疾员工中引发了一场辩论。一些人认为,人数越多,力量越大,对所有人都有利。但另一些人则担心,如果滥用便利,可能会适得其反,造成负面影响。 Callum Borchers: 寻求职场便利的人数激增主要有两个原因。首先,越来越多的人认为自己符合残疾的定义,疾病预防控制中心如今的定义相当宽泛,将四分之一的美国成年人列为残疾人士。其次,疫情过后,许多人更喜欢远程办公,因为这更有利于他们的身心健康,所以他们会申请远程办公的便利。申请远程办公便利通常意味着请求雇主豁免返岗规定,因为自身情况无法全职返回办公室。 大多数情况下,员工的合理便利申请都会被批准,但批准率略有下降。未获批准的申请可能会导致向平等就业机会委员会投诉。残疾员工对越来越多的人寻求便利存在两种截然不同的观点。一部分人认为人数越多力量越大,另一部分人则担心“狼来了”效应,担心申请过多可能会导致雇主对申请产生怀疑,从而影响到残疾员工的就业机会。公司对员工寻求便利申请的回应谨慎,尤其对精神健康相关申请比较犹豫。公司通常乐于提供诸如安装屏幕阅读器或无障碍设施等便利,但对基于精神健康原因的远程办公申请则更为犹豫。公司通常更倾向于为重要和有价值的员工提供便利。申请便利时,员工需要区分自身需求与便利之间的界限。 一些残疾员工担心,过多的便利申请可能会对真正需要便利的人产生负面影响。例如,Vincent Martin是一位盲人,也是三届残奥会运动员,他认为公司通常会为重要员工提供几乎任何便利,但对普通员工则较为严格。Justina Plowden是一位因车祸导致部分瘫痪的员工,她正在努力恢复生活功能,即将开始一份需要亲自到场的法院书记员工作,她对“狼来了”效应表示担忧,认为滥用便利可能会对真正需要便利的人产生负面影响。 Callum Borchers: 我采访的残疾人士对这一现象的看法存在分歧。一些人认为,人数越多,力量越大,大家应该团结起来争取权益,而不是互相指责。另一些人则担心,如果太多人申请便利,雇主可能会疲于应对,甚至对申请的真实性产生怀疑,最终可能损害真正需要便利的残疾人的利益。 我采访的一些管理人员私下表示,他们对基于精神健康状况的便利申请尤其犹豫。他们通常不会反对为视障员工安装屏幕阅读器或安装无障碍设施等,但对于那些因为抑郁症、焦虑症或创伤后应激障碍等原因而申请远程办公的员工,他们则更为谨慎。这在很大程度上取决于员工的工作能力和价值。 一位名叫Vincent Martin的盲人,也是三届残奥会运动员,他指出,公司通常会为那些对公司非常重要和有价值的员工提供几乎任何便利,但对于普通员工,他们则会更加严格。因此,员工在申请便利时,需要诚实地评估自己的需求,区分哪些是真正的需求,哪些只是方便。 Justina Plowden是一位因车祸导致部分瘫痪的员工,她对“狼来了”效应表示担忧,她认为,如果太多人申请远程办公便利,雇主可能会对所有申请都产生怀疑,最终可能会损害真正需要便利的残疾人的利益。她呼吁大家在需要时申请便利,但也要避免滥用。

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The increase in workplace accommodation requests, particularly for mental health conditions, has sparked a debate among disabled workers. While some see it as strength in numbers, others worry about potential negative consequences, such as employers becoming less willing to grant accommodations.
  • 51% increase in EEOC complaints from 2021 to 2024 for workplace accommodations
  • Debate among disabled workers regarding the impact of increased requests
  • Concerns about a 'boy who cried wolf' phenomenon and potential backlash

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With leading networking and connectivity, advanced cybersecurity and expert partnership, Comcast Business helps turn today's enterprises into engines of modern business. Powering the engine of modern business. Powering possibilities. Restrictions apply. Here's your money briefing for Monday, March 10th. I'm Mariana Aspuru for The Wall Street Journal.

As more companies call employees back to the office, a growing number of people are seeking workplace accommodations based on mental health diagnoses. And it sparked a debate among disabled workers. They feel kind of torn. There are some who say strength in numbers. The more people who are advocating for their needs, that benefits everybody. But there are other folks who say, you know, I'm a little bit concerned about a boy who cried wolf phenomenon.

We'll talk to Wall Street Journal columnist Callum Borshers about the broader impact this could have on workplace accessibility after the break. With leading networking and connectivity, advanced cybersecurity and expert partnership, Comcast Business helps turn today's enterprises into engines of modern business. Powering the engine of modern business. Powering possibilities. Restrictions apply.

From 2021 to 2024, there was a 51% increase in complaints to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission from employees seeking workplace accommodations. Wall Street Journal columnist Callum Borshers joins me.

Callum, what has caused this number to spike? There are two big factors at play. One is there are just a lot more people who identify as having a disability. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention uses a pretty broad definition these days. In fact, it counts one in four American adults.

as disabled. And that can include anybody who has, let's say, any physical, emotional, or mental health condition that prevents them from leaving the house without anxiety, let's say, or having a hard time concentrating can be another trigger. So it's a lower bar than perhaps a lot of people have thought of in the past.

And so as a result, you have more people thinking, I may be entitled to protections under the Americans with Disabilities Act. Maybe people who didn't previously believe that they were entitled to those protections. And at the same time, of course, we have this return to work post-pandemic. And a lot of people who really liked working from home, who said, yo, this is a lot better for my mental, physical, emotional health. They'd prefer to stay remote. So some of those folks are asking for remote accommodations. And when a worker asks for one of those remote accommodations,

What does that entail? Yeah, it would basically entail asking your employer for an exemption from whatever the RTO mandate would be and saying, because of this condition, I do not want to have to go back to the office full time. And I believe I shouldn't have to. I believe that that in-office environment is an obstacle to my being able to do the job to the best of my ability. And how often are those requests granted? Well, it's still the vast majority of the time. I mean, if you look pre-pandemic, typically 95%, 96%

The phrase is reasonable accommodation, right? That's what's outlined in the Americans with Disabilities Act. But of course, reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. And so that's why you get this kind of gray area. Our colleague Lauren Weber has done some reporting on this showing a slight decrease in the approval rate down to like 91, 92%. So still, we're talking the vast majority of the time workers get a yes. But when they don't, that's where you can get these complaints to the EEOC.

In your story, you describe a debate among disabled workers over the increasing number of workers seeking accommodations.

What are their concerns? When I talk to folks with disabilities, they feel kind of torn. There are some who say strength in numbers. The more people who are advocating for their needs, that benefits everybody. And we shouldn't be sniping at each other, trying to police, well, your condition isn't severe enough to qualify for having the disability label or not. But there are other folks who say, you know, I'm a little bit concerned about a boy who cried wolf phenomenon, where you get so many people who are asking for accommodations that

employers grow weary of this and then they start to maybe distrust some of the claims and do they renege on some of the opportunities? Remember, the last few years have been really great employment wise. We've seen the unemployment rate go way down for people with disabilities, largely because of remote work accommodations. And so I do talk to folks with disabilities who are concerned about losing ground on this front.

Have companies said anything about this? Not much on the record. You know, it's very delicate for them. And really, nobody wants to be in the position of refereeing who is really disabled enough. But the managers I've talked to who will quietly talk about this, they are particularly torn about the mental and emotional health conditions.

I don't hear any managers objecting to, oh, I mean, I have to install a screen reader on my computers because I have a blind employee. Like nobody's complaining about that stuff or nobody's complaining about installing ramps and elevators and making sure that you're ADA compliant. It's the workers now coming out of the pandemic saying working from home was really life changing for me because I have depression or I have anxiety or I have PTSD and going out or at least going to an office every single day is triggering for me and

I do my job better in the comfort of my own home office. And really it comes down to, in some cases, just how good

the employee is at what they do. I spoke with a man named Vincent Martin, for example, who is blind. He's a three-time Paralympian and he's an accessibility engineer at a bank. And so he thinks about these issues all day. And he said, the reality is I've seen companies accommodate just about anything for employees who are really important and really valuable. And then they're a little bit tougher to convince if you're just sort of a regular Joe. How can the employee navigate those gray areas you're talking about?

and approach their employer with this. It really comes down to just being kind of honest with yourself about whether what you're asking for is a need or a convenience. One of my takeaways from working on this story and talking to so many people with disabilities is that those invisible disabilities are very real and have real effects on people's lives. I also came away with great respect for the perspective of people like Justina Plowden, who is in a wheelchair. She was partially paralyzed in a terrible car accident 14 years ago.

and has worked incredibly hard to regain her life function. She has some use of her hands and she is relearning to drive, even though getting behind the wheel of a car is really frightening for her because that was how she ended up in a wheelchair in the first place. And here she is getting ready to start an in-person job at a court clerk's office as she finishes her bachelor's degree.

She's heading off to law school in the fall. And she's one of the people who has some concern about the boy who cried wolf phenomenon with maybe too many people asking for remote work accommodations based on mental health diagnoses. And so for folks who are in that gray area, it's worth respecting the perspective of somebody like Justina, who says, please, please, please ask for it if you need it. But also, please, please, please don't abuse it because there could be some backlash on people like me. That's WSJ columnist Callum Borschers. And that's it for your Money Briefing.

This episode was produced by Zoe Culkin with supervising producer Melanie Roy. I'm Mariana Aspuru for The Wall Street Journal. Thanks for listening.