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How to Protect Your Tax Refund From Scammers

2025/3/25
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Mariana Aspuru: 骗子正在利用真实个人的基本信息提交虚假纳税申报单来窃取他们的退款。这可能会导致身份验证和退款返还过程变得非常复杂,耗时可能长达两年。这对骗子来说是一个快速获利的途径,因为他们只需要获取你的个人信息,例如姓名、出生日期、社会安全号码和地址,然后在纳税季初以你的名义申请退款,国税局可能会将退款发送给他们。 Laura Saunders: 我对税务身份盗窃的担忧程度中等偏上,因为虽然这种情况并非总是发生,但一旦发生,就会造成巨大的麻烦,解决问题可能需要很长时间,并且与国税局沟通处理起来很困难。为了主动预防税务身份盗窃,我申请了IP PIN,这是一种可以防止骗子提交虚假纳税申报的PIN码。国税局鼓励每个人都获取IP PIN。获取IP PIN需要通过ID.me进行身份验证,这让我有些担心个人信息安全,因为需要向一家私人公司提供个人信息,但权衡之下,我认为这是值得的。通过ID.me进行身份验证的过程相对快捷方便,大约花费了不到半小时。ID.me声称会在验证后24小时内销毁生物识别信息。可以为家庭成员申请IP PIN,但未成年人需要通过其他途径申请。虽然已经为本人申请了IP PIN,但仍需等待报税结果才能完全安心。

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This podcast discusses the increasing problem of tax refund scams, where fraudsters file fake tax returns using stolen personal information to claim refunds. The process of resolving identity theft and recovering a stolen refund can take up to two years, and the podcast will feature an interview with tax reporter Laura Saunders to explain how to protect yourself.
  • Scammers file fake tax returns using real people's information to steal refunds.
  • Resolving identity theft and recovering a refund can take up to two years.
  • The IRS may send the refund to the scammer if they successfully file a fraudulent return.

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Here's your Money Briefing for Tuesday, March 25th. I'm Mariana Aspuru for The Wall Street Journal. Scammers are filing fake tax returns using real people's basic information to steal their refunds.

Untangling the mess of verifying your identity and getting your refund back could take up to two years. And it's a great quick hit for a scammer if they can make it work. They get your personal information, your name, your date of birth, your social security number, your address. They file it in your name at the beginning of tax season and ask for a refund and the IRS may send it to them. We'll talk to Wall Street Journal reporter Laura Saunders about how you can protect your return.

That's after the break.

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For years, my colleague Laura Saunders was concerned about tax identity theft. So she took matters into her own hands and figured out some steps to prevent it. And she joins me now.

Laura, where would you say before this you fell on a scale of like super nonchalant to extremely worried about identity theft when it comes to your taxes? I would say I was at about a seven or eight because it doesn't happen always. But when it happens, it's such a big mess.

And now it can take up to two years to resolve. I'm like the doctor that knows all the diseases that could happen. As a tax reporter, I know what can go wrong. And if you have tax ID theft, it can be awfully complicated to untangle. With the words identity theft, we often think of someone taking your credit card information, going on a shopping spree, and opening accounts.

This is different. How does this work? It's different, and it's a great quick hit for a scammer if they can make it work. They get your personal information, your name, your date of birth, your social security number, your address. They file it in your name at the beginning of tax season and ask for a refund, and the IRS may send it to them.

And then when you go to file your tax return, the computer says, oh, no, we already did this one. And so you have to go to the IRS and say what's happened here. And then they have to untangle it. That can take 22 months sometimes. And the IRS might give it to them? IRS might. The IRS also has a system that detects red flags and they won't say release it. It

if they see a red flag, but sometimes they miss the red flag. So if someone is a victim of this tax identity theft, how do they go about getting it resolved? You'll get a letter from the IRS probably, and they'll have numbers to call and things to do. So you follow the process. But dealing with them is hard to get them on the phone. It's hard to get things done. And their systems are slow. Even if it works the way it's supposed to work, it can be slow to untangle. You were concerned about this. You went

through the process of trying to proactively prevent it from happening to you. What did you find? I had concerns. I still have concerns, but I decided on balance that it was worth doing.

And since then, we've found out that a lot of high ups at the IRS have done it as well. The IRS is encouraging everybody to get IP PINs. And that's just a PIN number that you have and you file it with your taxes and that's

The computer won't accept the return unless it has the PIN number on it. So if the scammer tries to file a fake return in your name, he won't have it and it'll get rejected. So it's kind of like another, like a passcode to get into your tax return. That's right. And it changes every year.

What's the process of getting one? Like, how hard is it? Well, this is where I had the concerns. The IRS has opened it up to all taxpayers who want one, but they don't have the ability to verify your identity. For that, they turn to an outside contractor, and it's a private company called ID.me.

And it does a lot of verification. It started with military veterans verifying them. And it's moved to several, like 20 federal agencies and a lot of state agencies. And they verify things for people. And they do these services for the IRS.

And so you go to them and they put you through a process to tell that you're you. And I was worried about that because I'm turning over my personal information to a private company and nothing is hack-proof.

But on balance, I decided it was the right thing to do. In my case, I was on a video call with someone and I had to send a picture of my driver's license front and back. And she looked at me online and she verified my identity. So then I was able to get right into my IRS account and ask for the IP pin and I probably got it within 30 seconds.

It came right away. That part was really good. But I was concerned about that biometric information. And what they say is that it's destroyed 24 hours after you're verified, the biometrics. The photos or like the video of you. Yeah, the images and where they're comparing images and things like that.

And this is the process that the IRS endorses and says, you know, this is safe. We should be using it. It's about the only way to do it. If you want to do it otherwise, you have to go to an office, get an appointment, go see them. And it's very involved. And I tell you, I am not a spring chicken. And the thing that worried me the most was this word upload and video chat and things like that. So beginning to end of 2020,

Trying to get this IP, like how long did it take you? For me, it took about less than half an hour start to finish. There was no wait during the height of tax season.

Can you get an IP pin for someone who isn't filing their own tax return? Yes, and it could be important to do that. You can actually get one for each member of the family, and the IRS recommends that. It's more complicated and involved if it's a minor. Then you have to actually go to the IRS themselves. You can't do it through ID.me. ID.me does not deal with minors. Laura, how safe do you feel now?

Well, I won't feel safe until I've filed the return and used the IPPIN and just crossed my fingers that it goes well because we haven't had time to get one for my husband yet. And so we have to think about that. But at least I've made a start and I hope it'll go well. That's WSJ reporter Laura Saunders. And that's it for Your Money Briefing. This episode was produced by me with supervising producer Melanie Roy. I'm Mariana Asputu for The Wall Street Journal. Thanks for listening.

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