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Why Your Fancy, New ETF Might Be Too Fancy

2025/1/16
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Ariana Espuru: 我注意到,尽管ETF以其低成本、高流动性和税务效率而闻名,但华尔街近年来却利用ETF来包装各种越来越模糊和复杂的金融产品。这使得投资者难以评估这些新型ETF的吸引力以及它们是否适合自己,也难以理解其内部运作方式。 John Sindreu: ETF确实类似于开放式共同基金,但由于其背后有银行或授权参与者提供持续流动性,并且可以在交易所交易,因此更受投资者欢迎。此外,其独特的赎回机制也使其具有税务效率。2024年,美国ETF的资金流入超过1万亿美元,这足以说明其受欢迎程度。ETF的吸引力在于其税务效率、流动性以及相对低廉的成本。 然而,ETF正在扩展到主动型、衍生品和私募市场等领域。这种复杂性使得评估新型ETF的吸引力及适用性变得极其困难,也使得其表现更难预测。一些ETF承诺以税务高效的方式匹配其他资产的回报,但这存在税务风险的不确定性。 新型ETF的主要风险在于其底层资产的流动性。虽然目前为止,关于流动性风险的担忧尚未被证实,但随着ETF变得越来越复杂,这种风险依然存在。对于那些结构复杂且对外宣传复杂的ETF,其目标投资者群体应该很小,但实际情况并非如此。 杠杆ETF等复杂产品虽然对专业投资者可能有用,但对普通投资者风险很大。因此,复杂ETF的普及程度与其目标投资者群体规模不成比例。投资者应该仔细阅读ETF的细则,进行尽职调查,避免盲目投资。 在评估ETF表现时,应始终考虑扣除费用后的表现,并将其与合适的基准进行比较。高费用可能会抵消任何潜在的策略优势,因此投资者应该权衡利弊,选择更简单但成本更低的替代产品。 John Sindreu: 我同意Ariana的观点,新型ETF的复杂性确实带来了许多挑战。ETF的成功很大程度上源于其简单性和透明度,而如今许多新型ETF却偏离了这一原则。这使得普通投资者难以理解其运作机制,从而增加了投资风险。 虽然一些复杂的ETF策略可能对专业投资者有效,但对于普通投资者来说,理解和管理这些风险非常困难。许多投资者可能并不具备评估这些复杂策略所需的技术知识和专业技能。 此外,税务方面的不确定性也是一个重要因素。一些ETF承诺以税务高效的方式匹配其他资产的回报,但这在实践中可能难以实现,甚至可能导致意想不到的税务负担。 因此,我认为投资者在选择ETF时,应该优先考虑简单性和透明度,并仔细评估其费用和风险。如果一个ETF的策略过于复杂,以至于难以理解,那么投资者最好选择更简单、成本更低的替代产品。 总而言之,虽然ETF市场提供了许多投资机会,但投资者需要谨慎选择,避免被复杂的产品所迷惑。在投资前,务必进行充分的尽职调查,并根据自身的风险承受能力和投资目标做出明智的决策。

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The popularity of ETFs has exploded, exceeding 1 trillion in inflows in 2024. Their appeal lies in their affordability, liquidity, and tax efficiency. However, this popularity has led to the creation of increasingly complex and obscure products.
  • ETFs surpassed 1 trillion in US inflows in 2024.
  • They are cheap, liquid, and tax-efficient.
  • Wall Street is packaging complex financial products into ETFs.

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Here's your money briefing for Thursday, January 16th. I'm Arianna Espuru for The Wall Street Journal. Investors put more than $1 trillion into U.S.-based exchange-traded funds, or ETFs, last year. And no wonder. They're cheap, liquid, and tax-efficient. But lately, Wall Street has been using ETFs to package various financial products that are increasingly obscure and complex.

As ETFs get more complicated, knowing whether they're attractive to you or whether you're the right person to use them or how to use them gets extremely difficult. So what do you need to know about these new, fancier kinds of ETFs? We'll talk to Wall Street Journal Heard on the Street columnist John Sindreo after the break.

ETFs have been pretty good investments, but they might be getting too good. Wall Street Journal Heard on the Street columnist John Sindreo joins me.

John, let's do a quick refresher first. What is an ETF and how does it differ from other investments? So an ETF is a bit like an open-ended mutual fund, but they're far more beloved by investors because an ETF is backed by a bank or what's called an authorized participant that provides it with constant liquidity. The shares tried in exchanges so you can buy and sell them during the day. They're very tax efficient because of the way that this redemption in kind works.

So essentially, they are the biggest story in financial markets in the past couple of decades. And in 2024, they surpassed $1 trillion in total inflows in the US. And so they're the biggest story in financial markets in the past couple of decades.

when the rest of Wall Street is now trying to find other ways to profit from ETFs. So they're trying to package even pretty complicated products into ETF form because it's just what everybody wants these days. You mentioned that record that ETFs broke last year, surpassing $1 trillion. Is that why they're so popular? Explain to me the draw that people have towards them. It's tax efficient. It's liquid. And it's also, by virtue of all these things, it's a cheap product. It's a cheap vehicle. You pay...

lower fees on ETFs that you do on comparable funds. A big part of the whole passive investing rush of the past couple of decades has to do with ETFs, even though ETFs are now branching into many other things. So there's active ETFs, there's ETFs that invest in complex derivatives, there's ETFs that are starting to invest in private markets. So everything is now coming in ETF form. In your story, you highlight a number of ETFs that look great, but haven't delivered on what they promised.

What's causing this? Well, there's a variety of potential issues that you could highlight once you start venturing outside of these very vanilla S&P 500 or Stocks Europe trackers. And I would argue

argue that they all share in common that complexity makes things harder and more unpredictable. As ETFs get more complicated, knowing whether they're attractive to you or whether you're the right person to use them or how to use them gets extremely difficult. And

In some cases, for example, we are even having ETFs that are promising to match returns of other assets in a tax-efficient way. And this might work out, but you also don't know what the IRS is going to say a few years down the line. You don't know whether they structure this correctly or whether you're going to get a tax bill down the line. So...

Again, a lot more small print that needs to be read and a lot more unknowns that will clear themselves out in the near future. And as these ETFs become more complex in the coming years, what are some of the concerns that investors have?

much of the concern about them has to do with liquidity. That is the typical concern that has been thrown around whenever you mention ETFs. Essentially, the assets underlying these ETFs are getting more illiquid because, well, providers want to broaden investor access to these assets.

And there is the fear that at some point this is not going to go well. It must be said, so far, these fears have proven unfounded. Like we had in 2020, for example, a situation because of the COVID crisis in which the corporate debt market completely froze and ETFs remained very liquid. Actually, people kept trading the ETFs even as the underlying assets were not really moving. For these ETFs,

ETFs that are outwardly so complicated and complex, who are they for? That's the key question. And many people can always argue that there is the right buyer for every product, and they're probably right. So for example, for a single name leverage ETF, there's probably some professional that really

really has a trade to place that specific day and makes a lot of money from it. And this is a cheap, easy way to do this. But at the same time, you're not getting the upside from owning stocks and it's pretty tax inefficient. And if the market really slides, you're going to lose a lot of money. So my point of view is that the investor base for this should be pretty small. Yet,

It exists. There is a profile, but I just don't think it's commensurable to how popular they are. I think that is the crucial question when it comes to the role that these products serve in the market.

For investors who want to put money into ETFs or who might be attracted to the name, what research should they do beforehand to better understand these pros and cons that we're talking about? You always hope that ideally everybody will read the fine print and that therefore some of the pitfalls that are highlighted in this piece will not be as problematic as you might think, because it's true. Most people do their due diligence.

But I think we have to be realistic. Like, very often people buy stuff they don't really understand. That's just the way of markets. And the more complicated you get it, the more that it's likely that people will do this. And of course, we also go into the issue of the more leeway these ETFs have to make.

pursue different strategies, the less that what says on the label will be understood by this very mass market audience that ETFs are directed to. What's the best way to measure an ETF's actual performance? Let's say for the everyday person, everyday investor, what are some things they can look at to better understand what they can get from this ETF? Always take into account the post-fee performance.

If the ETF revolution was about something, it was about lowering fees. Even if you're not getting a return above the market or you're not promised any return above the market and you know you're always going to be slightly below the index, you're doing far better after fees.

always look at the right benchmark for what you're investing in. Is it how well dividend stocks did last year? Then you can compare an ETF that gives you income with that. Is it how well bonds did last year? You can look at all these things, but always keep in mind that

If it's a very high fee, it may not fit into what you need, because even if you believe that this particular strategy is perfect for your situation, it may be that you're better served with a less bespoke, more vanilla, but lower costing product. That's WSJ Heard on the Street columnist John Sindereo. And that's it for your Money Briefing. This episode is produced by Jess Jupiter with supervising producer Melanie Roy.

I'm Arianna Espuru for The Wall Street Journal. Thanks for listening.