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Ep.80 중국&일본에서 온 게스트와 대화! 한,중,일은 얼마나 비슷할까? 🇰🇷🇨🇳🇯🇵 • Didi의 한국어 Podcast (Korean Podcast)

2025/1/16
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Didi: 我是一名制作韩语韩国文化播客的韩国人。在节目中,我们邀请了来自中国和日本的嘉宾,就三国语言和文化进行了轻松的讨论。我们探讨了汉字在三国语言中的作用,比较了日常用语和品牌名称在三国语言中的表达方式,并分享了各自国家独特的文化习俗,例如问候方式、饮食习惯和社交礼仪。通过这次讨论,我们发现三国文化既有相似之处,也有明显的差异。例如,在问候方式上,三国都习惯鞠躬,但在鞠躬的深度和场合上有所不同;在饮食习惯上,三国都喜欢喝茶和咖啡,但茶的种类和饮用方式有所不同;在社交礼仪上,三国在与陌生人交流的程度和方式上有所不同。总的来说,这次讨论加深了我们对三国文化的理解,也让我们认识到文化交流的重要性。 치하루: 我是现在在韩国做打工度假签证的日本人。在节目中,我分享了我对韩国文化的观察和体验,并与其他嘉宾就三国文化差异和相似之处进行了讨论。我发现,虽然三国语言和文化存在差异,但也有许多相似之处。例如,三国都使用汉字,虽然在使用频率和程度上有所不同,但汉字仍然在三国文化交流中扮演着重要的角色。此外,三国在一些日常用语和社交礼仪上也存在相似之处,例如问候方式、敬酒方式等。然而,三国文化也存在明显的差异,例如饮食习惯、思维方式等。通过这次讨论,我加深了对韩国和中国文化的理解,也更加了解了日本文化在国际社会中的地位和影响。 양옥: 我是来自中国的嘉宾。在节目中,我与其他嘉宾就三国语言和文化进行了深入的探讨。我分享了我对韩国和日本文化的观察和体验,并就三国文化差异和相似之处发表了自己的看法。我发现,三国文化既有相似之处,也有许多不同之处。例如,三国都受到儒家文化的影响,但在具体表现形式上有所不同;三国在饮食习惯、生活方式和价值观上也存在差异。然而,三国人民都非常友好和热情,这为三国之间的文化交流奠定了良好的基础。通过这次讨论,我加深了对韩国和日本文化的理解,也更加了解了中国文化在国际社会中的地位和影响。

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This chapter explores the similarities and differences between Korean, Chinese, and Japanese, focusing on shared characters and pronunciation variations. The discussion includes examples of how these languages intersect in daily life, such as ordering drinks in cafes.
  • Similarities and differences in pronunciation of shared characters across Korean, Chinese, and Japanese are discussed.
  • The use of characters in ordering drinks in cafes is examined as a real-life example of linguistic interaction.

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0 与其说是采访,不如说是像刚才那样随意地聊天。简单的自我介绍。

我先来吧。我是Didi,在YouTube上用韩语制作韩国文化播客的韩国人。我是Chiharu,现在正在韩国做打工度假签证的日本人。也请用母语介绍一下吧。你好,我是Chiharu。我现在在韩国做打工度假。

哇,好厉害~

Yang Ok现在在读研究生?是的,两年多,对,两年半左右,什么时候回中国?方便的时候。真的吗?时间不多了吧?是的。

我们一个来自中国,一个来自日本,我是韩国人,所以想就彼此的语言和文化聊聊,不用拘谨,我们不是各自国家的代表,所以随意聊聊我们的想法就可以了。只说自己的想法。

所以第一个我想问的是语言,语言有多相似。因为国家离得很近,而且三国都用汉字。是的。所以我想聊聊到底有多相似。所以第一个问题是这个,现在还使用汉字的国家是

日本和中国。韩国虽然也用,但不是主要文字。所以经常听说日本人和中国人在各自国家看到汉字就能大致理解,怎么样?我也很好奇。我还没去过呢?因为没去过,在咖啡馆

点饮料了?Yang Ok?是的,但是她不会说英语。我也不会说英语。都…

那么我想这样问,点饮料的时候,这样问,这样指,知道是什么意思吗?知道。这是热的,这是冰的。是的,是的。这是“元”,日语发音是?“エン”。啊,很像?知道吗?怎么?怎么?“元”

日语是“エン”,这是“レイ”,中文是“凉”,有点像吧?很像。有点像。但是就发音来说,不太确定。是的,发音不通,但是指着看就能明白。我想试试这个。对,刚才说的那个,Chi Zhang的朋友在咖啡馆工作,

沟通太困难了,这时候用汉字写给中国人看就能理解,太神奇了。真的用汉字写吗?是的,中国。中国在中国的咖啡馆里,如果要热的,不用“温”。那个“ル”

那怎么写?哇,好厉害。汉字怎么写?あたたかい?あつい?和“あつい”很像。这里呢?这个是一样的。一样的?是的,用。用这个。给韩国人看的话,大概大部分人都不知道吧。

我也准备了一些词,感觉相似的词,首先是“可爱”,“可爱”怎么说?日语是?“かわいい”。中文是“可爱”。可爱吧?不是故意这样说的吧?很像。还有“全部”

全部。全部。全部。中文是全部。完全一样。是的,是的。还有运动。运动。我不运动。运动。运动。这个也挺像的。这个也一样。这个也经常用。

干杯。还可以。かんぱい。干杯。ミックス吧。是的,是的。韩国、日本中间是?中间是中国吧。不可能。不可能,这个。中文是“不-可-能”。“不-可-能”。“阿美利加”的“诺”。

这个和日语很像,但是不知道和中文怎么样。微妙的三角关系。啊,三角关系。微妙的三角关系。这样说吧?微妙的三角…啊,等等。有点像日语。微妙的三角关系。微妙的三角关系。微妙的三角关系。

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流行变化太快,大家都在追赶更新的感觉?就像iOS更新一样。是的,一起。而且韩国人,无论男女,都有一种很注重打扮的感觉。几乎没有人素颜出门。真的吗?

都注重打扮?就是说比较在意打扮的感觉?是的,是的,虽然不说是全妆,但至少也会稍微打扮一下,不会像刚睡醒就穿着睡衣出门那样。是的,是的,是这样,感觉她们都很注重眼妆,不然会被妈妈骂的,“你这样就出门了?”是的,是的,是的。

还有在日本,对日本的刻板印象是服务态度非常好,服务态度真的排名第一。服务第一,而且我也有这样的刻板印象,每个人都有这样的印象……

会画画的刻板印象。大家都觉得会画画。是的,有这种感觉。而且在日本,男生的发型和韩国不一样,在日本,男生的头发比较……

长,有这种印象。长发比较多,还有染发?男生染发,蓝色,虽然有点特别,但即使不染发,服装也比较多样化。是的,是的。

可以说是很有个性吧?是的,是的,是的。还有日本的音乐制作,感觉太细腻了。是这样啊。以前感觉只有我一个人有这种不好的感觉,感觉太沉溺于真实意义中了。

确实如此。因为以前很多在中国很火的歌都是日本制作的。很多。

不过现在韩国歌在日本听得很多。是的,没错,韩国歌也很好听。还有一个,日本女生如果结婚的话……

都会成为家庭主妇的形象。所以现在也这么认为。不工作,就在家……

骑自行车送孩子去幼儿园。自行车很多。感觉自行车也骑得很多。自行车很多。虽然现在正在改变,但想不工作只做家庭主妇的人也很多,想继续工作的人也很多,大概各占一半吧。每个家庭都不一样。感觉是这样的,取决于情况。

没有了。说了很多,怎么样?准备了什么吗?虽然不多,但像刚才说的,韩国人穿衣风格相似,流行不断变化,不断出现新的东西,昨天觉得流行的东西今天就过时了。变化太快了,而且,因为被称为“快快文化”,人们行动也很快。行动很快?在地铁里也是吗?是的。还有某种……这里的“快快快文化”,啊,是这样吗?怎么样?但是,东京不是这样吧?很快……是的,很快,但是某种……

因为有这种刻板印象,所以我自己点餐的时候也要很快……

做出决定,结账的时候要拿着卡,如果让人等待的话,在公交车停下来之前就要站起来,这也很有趣,电梯门要关了,要赶紧按,日本不是这样吧?日本不是这样的,公交车必须停稳了才能站起来。

我不自觉地会加快行动。还有很有名的说法,对年龄很在意?

谁是姐姐谁是妹妹,这很重要,不是上下级关系吧?感觉到了。真的感觉到了吗?感觉到了。好像一开始就会先问年龄,是哪一年生的,在这里认识,刚坐下就开始问这些。是的,是的。然后我会说我是姐姐,这样就确定了辈分,称呼和说话方式也会改变。

日本也有,但在韩国更强烈。是的,没错,在韩国太强烈了。是的。中国呢?中国我没有朋友,因为没有朋友……

所以不太了解,但像爱豆,艺人,KPOP爱豆中有很多中国成员。啊,是的。那么,她们在形象上,感觉都有自己明确的意见。我就是这样!这种感觉?那很快乐吗?感觉很阳光?性格很阳光?还是说有点坚持己见的这种感觉?既阳光,又明确知道自己想做什么的感觉?表达得好吗?

因为是日本人,所以有点羡慕这种感觉。能很好地表达自己的意见。赞美时间。做个赞美时间会比较好,除了自己的国家,对其他国家比较羡慕、喜欢、觉得有魅力的地方。

我对日本,小时候看过很多动画片,哆啦A梦。是的,这太让人羡慕了。是吗?可以看到哆啦A梦的国家让人羡慕。是的,没错,而且那种可爱的文化类型很多,还有日本的电视剧……

那种风格,也经常提到过,技术,可能是日剧,好像有一部叫《西瓜》的电视剧,感觉很平静,很治愈。是的,太治愈了,日语我不懂,是老电视剧了,《小森林》知道吗?很久了吗?

还有日本那种引入自然光线的空间利用也很好,设计很多。技术。是的,技术。我喜欢那种。我认为日本的优点是,首先,它能很好地展现自己的文化,古老的文化……

应该说是很好地保留了这种感觉吧?韩国感觉越来越少了。旧的东西有点过时了,感觉是新的东西,而日本很好地保留了这一点,而且感觉很重视个性。比韩国更能包容个人的个性。

无论怎样留发型,怎样穿衣,就觉得这个人喜欢这样,感觉比较宽容,心情很好。中国怎么样?对中国的想法?对中国,首先,食物,我太喜欢中国菜了,所以菜品太丰富了,有很多好吃的,虽然……

不太了解各个地区有什么区别,但想去吃。而且现在中国的彩妆,美甲之类的,我在日本做过一次中国美甲师的美甲,感觉在日本没有……

那种很微妙的,很漂亮的颜色,所以那种产品,彩妆产品,化妆品之类的,现在也比较多样化了。——啊,是二手化妆品吗?——是的。——有点……——美容技术。——是的,这有点……

现在好像多了起来,在日本也能看到,所以也挺感兴趣的。这个我也不知道。真的吗?中国,首先,土地面积很大,所以旅游的地方很多,资本也很多,这一点很好,而且我感觉,可能我不太了解……

那种人情味,人情?人情。对人的感情。啊,人情。啊,是的,是的,是的。韩国感觉越来越少了,但在中国有很多。例如,前几天看电视,中国……

那些东西是一样的。说很多人在外面吃早餐。所以妈妈说这让人羡慕,韩国好像不太会在外面吃早餐,像路边摊那样,我们会留下评论,对卫生之类的很严格,所以……

感觉人与人之间比较随意。是的,没错。即使桌子不多,在居酒屋也可以拼桌一起吃。是的,很多这种……

魅力。韩国没有吗?韩国?韩国?小店那种氛围很好。每家店的氛围都不一样。感觉很值得尊敬。香味也不同,技术。尊敬。

精致的国家。香味也不同,颜色也不同。在韩国电视剧里……

有这种感觉。是的,没错。而且现在韩国女生拍照技术……——啊,拍照技术。——是的,太好了。在中国平台上受到了很多好评。如果在国外想请人帮忙拍照的话,请韩国人帮忙可以放心托付。可以相信。

可以相信。是的,而且都很注重打扮。注重打扮的国家。还有一个,男生穿毛衣,毛衣要塞进裤子里。帅吗?帅。塞进去。很简单。很方便……

有点正式的感觉。但是更舒服。“꾸안꾸”这个词,打扮过但看起来没打扮的感觉。是的,我喜欢这种感觉。我经常看韩国电视剧和娱乐节目之类的,所以觉得质量太好了……

太让人羡慕了,一部电视剧也要花很多心思,感觉很用心,花了很长时间制作,看起来很有趣,很好。而且咖啡馆太多了。

晚上十点还在营业,很多。是的,咖啡馆太多了。咖啡馆太多了。是的,所以叫咖啡难民。难民。啊,是这样吗?

叫咖啡难民,想找个地方坐下来聊天,想打发时间,但是找不到座位。周末经常这样。完全没有这种情况,无论在哪里都能进去,都能坐下来喝咖啡,感觉太好了。不是吗?好的。

这里收到一个问题,我们快速解决一下。这位听众学习日语很久了,也开始学习韩语和中文。所以他意识到有些人对彼此持有非常批判性的意见。

这些意见大多基于复杂的歷史,为了消除这些偏见,增进三国之间的理解,大家认为可以做些什么呢?这是个很难的问题。是的,没错。我有想法。是的。

说说我的经验,我在上课的时候会遇到来自不同国家的人。但是也有一些来自我从未交流过的国家的学生。对于这些人,我会不自觉地想,这个国家的人大概是这样吧,但是上课后发现都一样,都是人。所以……

最重要的是要亲身体验,亲身交流。对不了解的事情,只看媒体,或者只听别人的某些特定经验,然后就下结论的话……

可能会错过结识优秀的人的机会,而且,如果真的遇到了不好的经历,用这个来评价整个国家是不合适的。因为每个人都有缺点。这可能是那个人的缺点,也可能是那个国家某个方面的……

问题,所以,如果因为这个原因,我就不去那个国家了,这样想的话,会有点可惜。是的,没错,没错。我学习语言后,不知不觉中发生了一些变化。

感觉有点想忘记,现在我能说韩语,杨勋也能说韩语,所以我们三个国家的人才能交流。所以,学习一门外语……

不仅仅是那个国家,虽然我不懂中文,但也能和中国人交流,所以语言的力量太强大了。是的,没错,没错。像迪迪的韩语播客这样的节目太好了。

沟通太重要了。那种对话?和人们的对话太重要了。如果只看新闻的话,很容易产生对这个国家或那个国家的偏见。但是迪迪刚才说的,去那个国家……

就知道了。必须去。不能轻易相信别人的话。去那个国家旅游的时候,自己的态度也很重要。不能以一个人来评价整个国家,但是,我可能会成为那个国家在别人眼中的形象。所以……

对外国人友善也很重要,作为外国人,也有这种感觉。啊,是的,在韩国生活的时候,知道了。就这样结束吧?就这样?在韩国剩下的时间好好度过,然后回去,工作还很多,请留下美好的回忆。