2024 CBC Massey lecturer Ian Williams speaks with *IDEAS *host Nahlah Ayed about the forces that have shaped him as a thinker and writer, from the encyclopedias he read as a child in Trinidad to his years as a dancer to the poetry of Margaret Atwood. 'I believe in multiplicity,' he says. The 2024 Massey Lectures, *What I Mean to Say: Remaking Conversation in Our Time, begin *this coming Monday.