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Jarrett Zigon, "How Is It Between Us?: Relational Ethics and Care for the World" (HAU Books, 2023)

2024/12/17
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Jarrett Zigon: 本书的核心论点是,传统伦理理论(功利主义、道义论和德性论)基于物质本体论,无法充分应对当代世界日益复杂和相互关联的伦理挑战。作者提出了一种新的关系伦理学理论,强调人与人、人与非人类生命体以及万物之间的相互关联性。 作者认为,当代情境(后真相、数据化、气候变化等)揭示了所有存在的基础都是本体论上的关系性。因此,我们需要摆脱传统伦理理论的束缚,创造新的概念来应对当代世界。本书的核心概念是“中间性”(between)和“协调”(attunement)。“中间性”是指先于个体存在并赋予个体存在的关系空间;“协调”则是一种积极参与关系展开的方式,主要发生在潜意识层面,但有时也需要更主动的参与。 在后真相时代,作者认为思考比真理更重要。思考并非大脑的产物,而是与世界和自身的关系性延伸。在讨论正义时,作者提出“道德组合”(moral assemblages)的概念,来描述当代道德景观的复杂性。正义不是一个预设的目标,而是一个持续的协调过程,需要对差异性保持开放的态度。 在数据化和跨物种伦理学问题上,作者认为自由主义个人主义的本体论不足以应对当代挑战。我们需要从关系伦理学的角度出发,将非人类生命体视为具有伦理地位的存在,并认识到数据本身也具有关系性。 作者未来的研究将关注虚无主义、绝望以及科技在其中的作用,并探索如何在当代语境下保持希望。 Yadong Li: 作为访谈者,李亚东博士主要就书中提出的核心概念、当代伦理困境(后真相、正义、数据化)以及作者的学术背景和未来研究方向与作者进行了深入探讨。他积极参与了对话,并就一些关键问题提出了自己的见解,例如,他与作者共同探讨了‘协调’的概念,以及在后真相时代思考的重要性。他还就如何理解当代社会对正义的复杂呼唤,以及如何在一个不断变化的道德景观中想象正义提出了自己的看法。

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Why did Jarrett Zigon initially become interested in ethics?

Zigon's interest in ethics began as an undergraduate, influenced by existentialist literature, particularly Dostoevsky's works, which raised questions about existence and ethics. This led him to think about ethics as a way of living well with others rather than just a set of rules or principles.

What is the central theme of Jarrett Zigon's book 'How Is It Between Us?'?

The book develops a theory of relational ethics that extends beyond human interactions to include all existents. It addresses contemporary ethical concerns such as post-truth conditions, algorithmic worlds, competing calls for justice, and the climate crisis.

How does Jarrett Zigon define ethics in his work?

Zigon defines ethics as a way of living well with others, emphasizing relationality and situatedness. He rejects the idea of ethics as a set of principles or rules, instead focusing on how individuals engage with the world and each other.

What is the concept of 'moral breakdown' in Jarrett Zigon's work?

Moral breakdown refers to moments in everyday life when individuals must stop and reflect on their actions because something feels ethically uncertain. This concept highlights the contrast between routine moral behavior and moments of ethical reflection.

Why does Jarrett Zigon argue that traditional ethical theories like virtue theory, deontology, and consequentialism are inadequate?

Zigon believes these traditional theories are based on a substance ontology that assumes pre-existing entities. In contrast, the contemporary world reveals the relationality of all existence, making these theories inadequate for addressing modern ethical challenges.

What is the significance of 'attunement' in Zigon's relational ethics?

Attunement refers to an engaged relationality that allows individuals to respond to the unfolding of relationality in their lives. It involves a kind of active, yet often non-conscious, involvement in the relational process, especially during moments of breakdown or reflection.

How does Jarrett Zigon view the concept of 'truth' in the post-truth era?

Zigon argues that truth is not about facts but about an unfolding process of revelation. In the post-truth era, where facts are contested, he emphasizes the importance of thinking over truth, suggesting that thinking is a relational process that allows for continuous engagement with the world.

What does Jarrett Zigon mean by 'moral assemblages'?

Moral assemblages refer to the complex and ever-changing moral landscape that includes institutional moralities, public discourses of morality, and individual embodied moralities. These assemblages are constantly shifting due to the interactions and differences of those involved.

How does Zigon propose we understand justice in a complex, ever-changing world?

Zigon suggests that justice should be seen as an ongoing attunement to the constellation of differences within a moral assemblage. It is not about achieving a fixed end but about continuously responding to the multitude of others in a way that respects their singularity and difference.

What is Jarrett Zigon's perspective on the relationship between humans and non-human entities in the context of ethics?

Zigon argues that we should view non-human entities, including animals, geological formations, and climate, as ethical beings with whom we have relational interactions. This perspective challenges the traditional human-centered approach to ethics and calls for a more inclusive relational ethics.

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*How Is It Between Us?: Relational Ethics and Care for the World *)(HAU Books, 2023) offers a new theory of relational ethics that tackles contemporary issues. In How Is It Between Us?, Jarrett Zigon puts anthropology and phenomenological hermeneutics in conversation to develop a new theory of relational ethics. This relational ethics takes place in the between, the interaction not just between people, but all existents. Importantly, this theory is utilized as a framework for considering some of today’s most pressing ethical concerns - for example, living in a condition of post-truth and worlds increasingly driven by algorithms and data extraction, various and competing calls for justice, and the ethical demands of the climate crisis. Written by one of the preeminent contributors to the anthropology of ethics, this is a ground-breaking book within that literature, developing a robust and systematic ethical theory to think through contemporary ethical problems.

Jarrett Zigon is a social theorist, philosopher and anthropologist at the University of Virginia, where he is the William & Linda Porterfield Chair in Bioethics and Professor of Anthropology. From 2018 to 2020, he was the founding director of the Center for Data Ethics and Justice at the University of Virginia.

Yadong Li is a PhD student in anthropology at Tulane University. His research interests lie at the intersection of economic anthropology, medical anthropology, hope studies, and the anthropology of borders and frontiers. More details about his scholarship and research interests can be found here).

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