Big Fashion 👔 #357
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This is Rock and Roll English. Real people, real English. Here's your host, Martin Johnson. Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Rock and Roll English, episode number 357, I believe. In today's episode, I talk to Boom Boom Cannon. Yes, he is back. And we talk about fashion, okay, because Boom Boom and I are obviously two fashionable guys. And we talk about fashion.

kind of, and we talk about fashion. Now, I'm going to jump straight into the episode, but notice in today's conversation, I am taking you a little bit backstage and showing you one of the problems, okay? I could have easily deleted this first part, but I've left it in there just so you can see what it's really like when we record a podcast, okay? Anyway, I will talk to you at the end. Happy listening. ♪

Boom Boom Cannon, how are you today? Hang on, I hadn't pressed record there, sorry.

Sorry, did we do a countdown? Sorry, yeah, sorry, no, you're right. My head's gone now with all this tech stuff. Three, two, one, on go, okay? Three, two, one, go. Boom Boom Cannon, how are you today? I'm very well, Martin, how are you? Always fantastic, Boom Boom, always fantastic. Even after our technical blip there, you've definitely pressed record this time? I think so. Yeah.

something's recording we did get ourselves into a bit of a fluster there didn't we didn't have we always have the countdown didn't have the countdown either did we kind of

the routine went out the window. That's why routines are so important. Exactly. I think it's because we cut short slightly our pre-pod chat as well. So normally I'm warmed up, feeling ready to go. And now I don't know. Could pull a muscle today if you've not done a proper warm up. But we'll do our best. So speaking of routines, we normally then go on to reviews. But as I mentioned in the last podcast,

I'm getting a bit deflated of asking people, do you think we have a review? They say yes. And then I have to say no. So we're just going to just skip over that part as if it's not a thing. Okay. But also still always remind people to leave reviews. Okay. So just gradually phasing out that, that part of the pod routine. Well, I hope not, but there's only so much you can do it for until it starts to get just more

a bit annoying and for everyone and boring of like, oh yeah, no review again. Or people just probably thinking for God's sake, look, you know, no one leaves your review. Just forget about this. So yeah.

you know i like to think i i have developed thick skin since starting the podcast and stuff but still you need some love still a review would be nice even with that that thick skin exactly a review would be nice so please always leave reviews um so on to today's pod boom boom so i asked this question on a facebook live in the r r family recently and i thought

it developed some interesting conversations so i thought let's go down this route okay about clothes clothing in general okay so the the first question is how many items of clothing have you bought in the last 12 months like more or less like is it a regular thing you know it's not regular it's not regular that's what i thought and i'd say i'm the same

Yeah, in particular in the last 12 months, I'd say even the relatively low number before that has taken a nosedive. I'm very much in sort of...

I think it's maybe dad territory that sort of just pick something out that who cares what it looks like. You know, I hadn't really thought about that. But I think, yeah, since I have become a dad, I don't really care what I look like anymore. You give up really, don't you? Oh, yeah. What's the point when something's going to be sicked on?

Yeah, exactly. Very, very quickly, you're changing a nappy, you know, who knows what's going to happen. So there's no point putting too much thought into it. Yeah. So, yeah, I am the same in the last 12 months. I recently bought two pairs of jeans because I had one of those things of just going to work and then Mrs. R&R saying, oh, like...

what are you doing? And I was like, what do you mean? And then did notice it was a bit breezy and then realized basically my ass was like on clear display for everyone. Because you had a hole in the jeans. Yeah. Yeah. Which I didn't know. I wasn't quite sure if you just hadn't put them on correctly. Yeah.

No, a large hole, which I didn't know about. You know, like when like those cool, it was like cool to wear like baggy jeans and just have your ass showing. I was just doing that. Doing that sort of, yeah, 90s style. You do like the 90s. Exactly, yeah. It's bringing it back. So I did buy some new jeans, which...

also now have a hole in and I've since realized there's a spiky thing on my bike seat, which is causing on your bum. Really? I thought whole jeans got spiky ass. Turns out I've got a spiky ass. So yeah, no, not, not a spiky ass spiky seat on my bike. But now I think like they were 40 pound, like,

I don't want to be buying another pair. I've literally just bought them. They need to last. The hole is small. So at the moment they're like, they're like black jeans. So my thing at the moment is just to wear black underwear. So you can't really see the hole. I don't want to be wearing white underwear. So yeah,

At the moment, just wearing black underwear so no one can see the hole. It's quite similar. Didn't you used to colour in with a black marker your shoes? Yeah, I'd forgotten about that one, actually. Is that a thing? I feel like I've made that up. No, that was a thing, yeah. Yeah, all like the marks. I mean, that's genius when you think about it, really, isn't it, Boo Boo? Yeah, kind of.

Yeah, I forgot about that. My God. Genius if you're not willing to buy a new pair of shoes. Yeah, it's a combination of the two things. I think there was more genius involved, but also didn't want to spend more money on a new pair of shoes. It was like the lighter scuff marks on a dark pair of shoes. Just get the marker pen out and fill them in.

Again, the reason I don't do that anymore is because I've given up. Who cares about scuff marks? Who cares about a scuff mark? So just completely given up.

But yeah, bloody I'd forgotten about that one. My God. Okay. So what about this one? What's your go-to outfit these days? So like you say, you wake up, what are you putting on? Okay. So my go-to outfit now, so my workplace is kind of smart casual. So I've kind of got one look really. That term, which gets reduced to smart cash, smart cash, smart casual, smart cash. It's very much smart cash in my office. Yeah.

So I'm going for, yeah, for a day in the office, I'm going, I've got sort of a kind of canvas or let white sort of leather trainers or cream. Okay. Talking to cream off white pair of trousers. I go to go trousers these days. Trousers. Yeah. With trainers. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. This is the future. Yeah. Yeah. And then a t-shirt and an over shirt.

Oh, a shirt over the t-shirt. Yeah. That's my, I'd say. That is the definition of smart. Classic look. Isn't it? Yeah. That is the absolute definition. But it has to be an over, it has to be an actual over shirt. Like there is a difference between like a shirt and an over shirt. I'd say it's like slightly thicker. Yeah. Didn't know that. Your go-to outfit seems very much smarter than mine, which is, well, my dark jeans, which I've got a hole in, um,

t-shirt h&m t-shirt which i bought i bought these t-shirts about two years ago i think they were like 2.99 each and like for me now i remember when i was young i had like maybe some like expensive t-shirts and like these are like the ones i don't want to ruin now and they might be like 2.99 from h&m uh save them yeah and i've got three adidas jumpers

different colours all dark though you've got like a grey a black and that's it

day in day out that's that's all i need simple exactly yeah i actually think i probably could have guessed that outfit we should have done that now i'd have definitely had adidas jumper in there um so yesterday i was played snooker with a couple of our friends and i thought i had lost my nike jacket right and i said i think i've lost my night jacket and then one of them said is it the the red and

gray one. And I said, yeah. And he said, it is strange how I know your clothes, isn't it? And I said, well, I've only got about four or five items of clothing. Doesn't take long to get to know them. No. But then this morning I went to the gym and it was in my gym bag and my God, it was the happiest I've ever been. Hadn't seen it. Hadn't seen it in a week. And I thought, cause that item of clothing is my longest serving. It's done more than 20 years.

Wow. I would have been devastated if I lost that. Longest serving. That is a good stint, 20 years. I think I got that in 2004 because someone, well, I used to work at a fashion shop and someone actually sold it to me, if I remember, for £20. I bought it secondhand, but it's done me well. So someone, a customer who was coming in to buy clothes? Yes.

yeah i just said can i buy your jacket i'll give that jacket no colleague who i worked with okay okay because it was a kind of vibe where everyone you know we were really into clothes then i remember i had a pair of gucci jeans that were 300 pounds um the idea of spending that much money on a pair of jeans now is ridiculous but um that was when i was really into clothes so i bought that but what's your longest serving item booboo have you got one serving

I can't think off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure we're talking like max, max 10 years. Max 10. Yeah. 20. Yeah. I don't think I've got anything touching on 20. Well, that, that Nike jacket boom. And funnily enough,

I was thinking about it. I thought, oh my God, I've lost it. And I remember, obviously you probably saw my fashion sense. You bought an almost identical Nike jacket, the same jacket, different colors and lost that jacket. I did black and pink, kind of hot pink, um,

yeah i lost it was gutted yeah i specifically remember so we had played football we were living in london we played football the other side of london we just we're just about to get back to our house we've traveled like an hour and then i think the word jacket came up and then suddenly you went oh now i've left my jacket there and then you said i'm gonna have to go back and then it was kind of like

Is he expecting me to go with him on this journey? Because I just want to go in and have something to eat and go to bed now. And then sort of there was a bit of an awkward silence. And then I just sort of tapped you on the back and said, have a good trip, mate. And how did it go? Well, I didn't find it, did I? Obviously, I knew that. I was just making it more dramatic for you.

just for you to tell everyone. Yeah. That was really across the other side of London as well, wasn't it? I think it was made available to Canary Wharf. To the Island Dog, to Isle of Dogs, yeah. That, I mean, that trip back, I mean, the trip there, but at least you've got the hope I might find my jacket. The trip back must have been a low point, boom, boom.

It was a low point. And also, I guess, probably knowing that when I would get home and you would say, did you find it? And I'd say no, that you would be absolutely loving it. Well, that's the thing that you have to try, pretend you're not.

it's fine no okay really your fist pumping underneath thinking particularly as you had the same uh the same one yeah i forgot that they were the same uh yeah that was absolutely gutting because i loved that um well you might have had it for 20 years boom boom if the relationship had continued yeah um i think i would have done i think that definitely had 20 year potential

It's a good jacket, mate. It's a great jacket. Although the hot pink, that actually kind of brings me on to the next one. It says, are you a fashion risk taker? Now, I wouldn't describe either of us as risk takers. However, I think around that time, maybe we were kind of experimenting with a few more colours, which maybe bright pink for one is not a colour where I would expect to see

now a 40 year old dad wearing no no maybe I couldn't pull that off now yeah um no I think yeah there was a period of time maybe then when we were a bit more uh a bit more adventurous yeah uh

living in London. And like, for example, skinny jeans. I remember you in particular, Boopoom, you got to the point where I think they actually used to be called spray-on, didn't they? They were so tight. Very skinny. So tight that they literally looked like they were sprayed on and you weren't wearing any jeans. They would actually probably be some of my oldest item of clothes because I still have one or two pairs of those that I just don't want to throw away. Just for the memories. Yeah, for the memories. They meant a lot.

You know, they were really a reliable item of clothing then. But I feel like an idiot wearing them now. Yeah. Can't pull them off now, but I don't want to throw them away. So they would be up there with my oldest. Yeah. Yeah. You get to a point in life, don't you, where you just realise your jeans can't be that skinny, really. I got to that point a few years ago now. And you just think... It's more, I prioritise comfort more these days. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh yeah, comfort is what it's all about. That's why I'm slipping on the slacks for work, just the trousers on. I don't want to be sitting in a pair of jeans all day. That is true. I mean, jeans, because I mean, I don't wear the really tight ones because when obviously we did wear them sort of around the kind of genital area, they used to be extremely uncomfortable. Yes.

Yes, they weren't designed. No. And I remember as well, like you would see like your phone so clearly in the pocket, wouldn't you? Because those jeans were so tight. So if you put any, you would even see like a pound coin in there because they were so tight. You could see how much money someone had in their pockets. Yeah.

They were talking of holes as well in trousers. They would often get a hole in the crotch because it was so tight around there. Any stretching of the legs, you were asking for trouble. Any stretching, yeah, was a big problem. But okay, what about this one, Boomer? Which decades fashion would you happily live in forever? Okay. Obviously, of the decades we've been alive in. The decades we've been alive live forever. Yeah.

This is a toughie. I'm going to say the 90s because it's comfortable. Really? You would expect me to say that. You've got to live forever in this, remember. Okay, sure. Big tune in the 90s. It was just too baggy. So, yeah, recently again, I got my...

for the uh recent manchester united final i went through some old um shirts and found lots that i had from the 90s which so i wore one which was the 1999 champions league shirt um for the match the other day hoping it would bring luck but it didn't um

and it was too big for me i had to roll the sleeves up to make it look at least kind of acceptable but do you think that says more about 90s fashion being baggy or more about your lack of physical development since since the 90s again a combination booboo combination of the two yeah but yeah it was just it was just too baggy for me and then when we got to

to the noughties like that i think it went it went the other way it was too skinny oh yeah and yeah i think some things i used to wear now like really tight t-shirts i remember obviously a big place we used to buy clothes was top man and they used to sell because as a small used to seem for me quite

like baggy then and i sometimes used to buy extra extra small which and it'd be like trying to squeeze into it so it wouldn't be that i would say the last the last 10 years because what's the name of the decade after that 2010 to 2020 has that got a name the the tens i don't know tens the the um

Yeah. The tens. It's a bit of a shit name, isn't it? I've never been happy with the noughties either. No, yeah. I wasn't happy with the noughties either. No. Okay. Yeah. That's good. So mine would be the last decade, whatever that was. Yeah. Yeah. Uh,

yeah I mean the 90s stuff I was at my parents house recently last time we visited there and dug out a reversible umbro top oh beautiful you could have it on both sides brilliant both sides one was quite plain one was quite kind of shiny actually and umbro plastered all over it and it just fit me perfectly still so

so yeah umbro being a sort of big english brand um which is still around and so recently i went to italy actually and my mother-in-law said oh i got you um just like she always buys me like t-shirts pajamas things like this and she said i bought you some new t-shirts and she's telling me this in italian and she said there umbro and i was like look i'm not having this it's umbro right

umbro is an english one you know you you can say other things like in different ways but i'm not having this i'm not having um because it is actually english isn't it yeah it is yeah yeah so you correct this you corrected how did she say umbro no i didn't didn't learn i tried to teach her how to say and then you get to a point yeah yeah whatever's fine

OK, so we are going to stop the conversation there. The conversation continues in the members area, the Rock and Roll English family membership area where we talk about fashion disasters that we have had and lots more. So a quick look at the vocab from today's episode. Boom Boom said when we had the blip at the start, that's one of the words, a technical blip problem.

And Boom Boom said, my head's gone now. So when your head's gone, you're confused, let's say. And I mentioned how we got ourselves into a bit of a fluster. Fluster is one of the words from my vocab course. So if you haven't done that, have a go.

have a look at the 14-day free challenge, which you can do by clicking the link in this podcast episode. And I mentioned how the routine went out the window. It's completely gone because no one leaves reviews anymore. So I got a bit deflated. So deflate, you actually deflate like something inflatable.

Like, you know, when you go swimming, children have armbands. You need to inflate them and then they can deflate. And that's how I feel about the reviews at the moment. A bit deflated. However, I did say I have thick skin now, so I am not so easily affected by these things. Another piece of vocabulary from the vocab course. Notice this.

As well, during this whole podcast, we spoke about items of clothing. OK, that's kind of the easiest way to describe it, because we have clothes, which is obviously plural. But when you talk about singular, we say an item of clothing. OK, and we spoke about scuff marks. OK, so if you have a pair of shoes and you generally just walk around, I guarantee you have scuff marks.

So, you know, when you accidentally kick the ground, there will be scuff marks. And that is what I used to colour with a black permanent marker pen. So my shoes looked like they were still smart. We spoke about your go-to outfit. So go-to meaning the first one you would choose.

We spoke about smart cash as well, which is smart casual. And I said that day in, day out, I'm wearing the same outfit. An easy term to understand, but just to show that repetition, again, from the vocab course. And we spoke about my Nike jacket and Boom Boom said that's a good stint, 20 years, like a good shift, let's say, really impressive. And I said it's done me well, like it's served me well, basically.

And Boom Boom said he lost his Nike jacket and he was gutted. Very disappointed. And he also described it as gutting. And he also said because it was hot pink, as he said, he wouldn't be able to pull it off now. So when you can pull it off...

For example, if I wear a pink T-shirt and someone else wears a pink T-shirt, maybe that other person looks good in the pink T-shirt. He can pull it off. I will not look good, so I will not be able to put it off. Pull it off. Sorry. And I mentioned...

how when people pronounce things wrong like sports brands especially if they are English I said I'm not having it I am not accepting it one last piece of vocabulary from the vocab course anyway thanks a lot for listening people I will see you very soon but in the meantime just keep on rocking baby

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