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E114: Walrus CoFounder: He Spent 20 Years Chasing This Problem – Crypto Finally Let Him Solve It

2025/3/26
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George Danezis is the Chief Scientist at Mysten Labs, co-creator of the Sui blockchain, and the mind behind Walrus - a decentralized storage protocol that’s solving a problem he’s been thinking about for over 20 years.


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DISCLAIMER

The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice.

The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor.

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0:00 Trailer

1:35 Please Subscribe

2:00 Partnerships

2:46 Sleeping Habits

4:05 Who is George Danezis?

4:23 What is a Chief Scientist?

5:16 Research at Microsoft vs. Now

6:59 What is “Good Research”?

8:49 Corporate Innovation vs. Reality

10:31 Why I Love Teaching Security

11:52 Self Custody with Trezor

12:44 Teaching vs. Real-World Application

16:28 What Makes an Idea Great?

17:51 The Idea That Never Worked Out

19:50 Being Late to Ideas, Not Early

20:56 The Essence of Peer-to-Peer Networks

23:50 Why We Need Peer-to-Peer Systems?

27:51 Why Decentralization Was Hard to Realize

31:09 Bitcoin's Game-Changing Impact

33:10 ETH Aha Moment

34:46 Facebook’s Conviction in Blockchain

37:39 Scaling DIEM to Sui

39:20 Biggest Issue at Facebook

40:20 Why Facebook Bet on Crypto

41:40 Why I Left Facebook

45:07 Balancing Passion and Pay

46:43 What is a Blockchain Good For?

51:42 Understanding Blockchain’s Limitations

53:21 CryptoKitties

54:36 Meme Coins: Culture vs. Scam

57:02 The Role of Norms in Crypto

1:00:32 What is the Sui Network?

1:02:32 Why Do We Need The Sui Network?

1:03:34 Layer 1 vs. Layer 2

1:05:07 Why Build a Layer One?

1:09:21 Top Layer One Competitors

1:10:45 Decentralization vs. Practicality

1:14:06 Minimum Decentralization

1:16:33 Data Storage & Its Biggest Problem

1:20:05 What is Walrus Protocol?

1:22:09 Why Walrus is Possible Now

1:25:35 Why Sui Network for Data Storage?

1:27:37 Vision of Walrus Protocol

1:28:59 Building a Neutral Tech Future

1:30:44 Using Existing Blockchains

1:33:03 Future of Decentralized Production

1:35:51 Prediction For The Next 12 Months

1:39:04 Concluding Remarks