The Best of the Pick Up - Laura Has Lost (Pelvic) Control
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This episode was recorded on Camaragal land. Hi guys and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany. I just almost choked and simultaneously pierced my pants at the same time, which is very convenient because it's what we're talking about on today's show. But generally speaking, they do come hand in hand, don't they? Don't you usually wee when you like laugh or cough or choke? Well, apparently if you do choke and you black out, you wee yourself. But that's a bit dramatic, so. Well, you haven't

blacked out. No, I didn't. You just coughed. No, sorry. I swallowed water down the wrong hole and I have no pelvic floor anymore. Do you know what that's called? Zero. Zip. Aspiration. I aspirated and then perspirated but from my vagina. Vagina, yes. Not even actually a vagina. It's your urethra. Okay, glad we're like getting down to the nitty gritty. Producer Grace is like, what is wrong with you? And let me tell you, Grace, a lot.

Anyway, this is our radio show, guys. Leah, so if you missed it, this is all of the best bits from the pick-up this week, all rounded up for you in a nice snacky little morsel if you missed any of the show. I have, and I know I just kind of gave a real spoiler away. I weighed myself.

I have hit a point in pregnancy. It's a bit of an issue now. And that is that with this third pregnancy, I have zero pelvic floor and I on the daily am wetting my pants. And it's a place I don't want to be in, but I'm here. Surely by three deep, it's hard to not have that. Like I understand women, you can do all the pelvic floor you want. And the first one is definitely like doable to maintain your pelvic floor strength. But by the third one,

isn't it like as much as you do, it's still sort of a little bit loosey-goosey? To be fair, I'm not loosey-goosey. Loosey-goosey. Lovely. I am not an expert in this field and I'm sure there will be people who listen to this who work in pelvic floor and know all about it. Yeah, and they'll be like, incorrect. But I have found that it's gotten progressively worse. However, and I know I used to make lots of jokes about it, like it is something you can improve because my pelvic floor was pretty bad after Lola, then it got great again, but

pregnant this time. I just find it's the pressure and also I think the fact that the orientation of the baby, like my baby's breech at the moment, that it's putting so much pressure right on my bladder and I am not making it to the bathroom. You know, I was breech. Breech?

Were you? Yeah. So your mom had to have a cesarean? No, she birthed me. I was breech, but first legs folded behind my head and I came out. They don't really do that anymore. No, they absolutely don't. You can. You can opt for it if you want to. No, I don't think they do. It's too dangerous now. If you're breech, they really don't. That's not really a thing that they give you a lot of choice in. So you know how my legs, sorry, my hips pop out all the time? Like I can dislocate them on the spot now. I've always had like this kind of hip dysplasia thing. Yeah. It's

From when I was born. So if a baby was born like I was now, it would be in the hip plaster for like three to six months. Yeah, it's like when they do the little like leg-spready hip bracelet. Yeah, but back in my day, they're like, off you go. Anyway, my legs were flying around for months and I still have problems to this day from that. With clicky hips. Well, there you go. How long have I known you for now? I could pop it out.

pop it out right now. Have you never seen it? I've seen you click your hips before. Also, just when you were in dancing and I went and watched you, I was like, how does she make her hips do that? Now I know. They popped out in the dance. That was my worry every time I was dancing because he was like, more hip action. I was like, well, you're going to be putting my hip back in. So what happens if it pops out? It just goes back in? It sounds funny. I can almost just, like I'm doing it now, but I can almost just clench my butt cheeks. It happens so frequently that I just clench my butt and it almost just slips back in. Wow. It happens a lot in sex. Yeah.

It has. Sex is like the leg positions and stuff. Quite often I'm like, oh, stop. And like Ben will like click it back in. But does it hurt? Yeah. Oh.

Oh, great. Okay, cool. I'm glad we got that. It's not a proper dislocation. It's almost called like a sublux. So it's sort of just like a slip in and out if you want. So it's like it happens for a minute and it hurts as in there's pressure and you can feel it's not in the right spot. But it's so quick that you just push it back in. Yeah, but it's not like for someone who's actually dislocated something. It's not a full dislocation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand. That's why I just say they're clicky. Like they're called clicky hips. Okay, well, I'm just pissing myself. So that's about it. Anyway.

Anyway, something else we discovered, which I think is genuinely so interesting and you guys need to have a listen, go and chat to your partners and your friends about it. But like,

How do you read a book? And not how do you read it like from start to finish, but do you read it with voices in your head? Do you have like male, female? Do you act it out or are you just reading like a page like you're reading a dictionary? Yeah, do you narrate it? Because one of the people in our team narrates the book in accents and also in different voices. What a legend. Yeah, I wonder who that could possibly be. Anyways, all of that is coming up on the show and so much more. Have a listen.

There's a new theory that's going around. There's a new theory every second day. It's called the occasion theory. Now, this is a theory that you can put into practice if you suspect that maybe you are dating a narcissist. If you suspect that maybe you're dating a narcissist, I don't think you need to be doing

putting practice theories into place, you probably need to escape. No, but the thing is, is like a lot of people have been in relationships where, you know, you're in, you're invested, you've been with them for six months, a year, whatever it is. And you start to wonder if the way you're being treated is firstly normal, if you're the problem or they're the problem. And there's a lot of conversation around these days around this.

everyone being a narcissist or narcissism in general. I agree. And I do think the term is thrown around a little bit too loosely, the term narcissism. But I'm here for this theory. What is it? Tell us about the occasion. Have a listen to this.

Quickest way to find out if you are dating a narcissist is when you have a special occasion coming up, whether it's your friend's birthday, whatever. Watch how they treat you, the days, the nights, the morning leading up to that occasion. The moment something else is making you happy and the attention is going off them, they can't stand it. The first thing they're going to try do is prove to you that your happiness depends on their mood. If this was a real occasion coming up, you would be absolutely miserable going to it. And that's their goal.

Mic drop. What are you looking at me for in terms of a response? I don't know what I'm supposed to say here. I think it's just a bit of a stretch. I just think, yes, there might be something to that for sure. Like, of course, a true narcissist is going to make something about them. That's their MO, right? They're going to want to ruin your happiness and make it about them. But I think this isn't a standalone test. Like, there is a big chance your partner just doesn't want to go to your sister's kid's birthday party and maybe that –

they're throwing a spanner in the works. I don't know. See, I heard this and I was like, you know what, of course, it's not going to be a blanket rule. It's not black and white. But I think it's a pretty clear indicator. Like, for example, if I was really excited about your wedding, Britt, and then my husband did something that was like purposefully, and I don't mean like they accidentally got... Like doting my wedding like he did? They actually made the wedding about himself. If they accidentally got sick or, you know, I'm not talking about that, but I mean like...

purposely picking a fight or purposely doing something that then brings that entire day down, I would say that they are hallmark signs that maybe not they're a narcissist, but that they have narcissistic tendencies. This is my worry, right? Hear me out. I worry that when we label something like that, because we love to give everything a label in life.

I just worry that if we start to say things like, you know what, they've made this moment about them in the lead up to my sister's birthday, like, narcissist. I just don't want to be throwing the term around a little bit too much. Also, you know, not everyone who cheats is a narcissist and not everyone who does, like, you know, they can be narcissistic in tendencies but doesn't make them... We probably shouldn't be diagnosed with psychological problems, but here we are. And there is the world of... That's what we do on The Pickup. There is the world of social media for that. Look, I mean...

I've wanted to tread it carefully. If you date someone who has narcissistic personality disorder or they have narcissistic tendencies, it's very rare for a narcissist to go and sit down with a therapist and be like, do you think it's me that's the problem? Because it's part of the whole concept around narcissism is that they are the most superior person. So they're not seeking out to figure out whether or not they're the problem or not because they don't think they are. It was my mum's wedding.

And this is a guy I dated for quite a while and look, there was a lot of things that he did that I would say would throw him into this kettle of fish without someone diagnosing him. And it was my mum's wedding. It was a really, really big deal and...

And he knew what a big deal it was. And the night before the wedding, because one of his friends had gone through a breakup recently, he went out and got incredibly drunk to the point where they didn't get home until 7 in the morning. And he had to be up and dressed and ready to go to the wedding by 10 a.m. And I just remember it totally ruined that entire thing for me. And so when I listened to this, I was like...

I was like, look, it maybe is too black and white to use this as a diagnostic tool. I was like, but I think that there's some merit to it. But some people are also just assholes. Like sometimes they are. Like sometimes you're just a jerk off. And I dated them. No, not all of them. Some of them are okay, but this one in particular. Yeah, he particularly was an a-hole, like, you know, but I don't know.

I'm on the fence with it. I think don't go home and diagnose your partner as an a-hole if they don't pass the occasion theory. But maybe look a little bit deeper if they are messing up all your special occasions. But let's relax on the labels.

We are talking about DIY fails, so if you've ever tried to DIY something yourself, give us a call here at The Pickup. Now, the reason why this has come up is because, Britt, you and I both saw something on the weekend that raised a few questions, and it has to do with our wonderful producer, Grace. Producer Grace was definitely not on the case on the weekend. Grace was not on the case for a change, and thank God you're still here to tell the tale.

Yes, I tried to repot a gigantic cactus and I think nearly actually died in the process. I reckon people have died by cactus before if you Googled that. Look, probably. If someone's fallen out of a building and landed in a cactus, that could do it. But I once had a cactus fall on me. I was also trying to move it and I

It was poorly weighted, the whole thing. It was one of those situations where you look at something and you go, this could end badly, but you do it anyway. And then the exact thing that you knew was going to happen happens. And my whole arm was full of cactus spines. Can I just tell you, sorry, Brittany is on the case.

There have been documented cases of deaths involving cactuses or cacti. Thank God we Googled. They are rare, but one notable incident involved a man who was killed when the cactus arm fell on him after he shot it with a gun. I shouldn't laugh. I'm not laughing, but like it can happen, Grace. Also one of those instances where I bet as it was happening, he was like, oh, I really messed that up, Grace.

Set the scene. So I moved into a new place and it came with a giant cactus on the veranda, but it was top heavy. It was falling over. So it was kind of like looped with this nylon rope and like hanging there and it just looked awful. It looked so depressing. The reason why the old owners left it there though is purely because it was too much of a hazard to move it. They didn't want to get impaled by the cactus. Hey, we're going to...

the rent, we're throwing in a cacti because no one's going to touch it. So I decided, I was like, we can absolutely do this. We've got a towel. We've got some gloves. It's going to be fine. We got it out of the pot. We took all the dirt out and then trying to get it into the pot was where we ran into trouble because we couldn't lift it without impaling ourselves with spines. So I had the bright idea to kind of create like a hench. It was like a levy

Like a pulley system. Like a pulley system, yes. So I'm just going through every word that rhymes with wedge. A dench. A bench. The stench. So I wrapped the cactus up and then threw it over the, like, top of the veranda and I was going to pull it up. And I was like, this is going so well. I'm practically an inventor. All of a sudden the rope just snapped. Let's just play the audio. So then we use... Oh, my God, baby. Oh, my God.

Sorry, but Diana's wheezing laughing is the funniest part. Yeah, my wife happens to have the most contagious laugh in the world and I'm very grateful for it. It honestly sounds like we've superimposed, like, you know, Roadrunner, something from a cartoon in there. It's not. That's just how it outplayed her. It sounded like you were more at risk of death by the beam breaking. So you put the rope over a beam. You can hear the beam like...

Oh, my God. You're actually so lucky you didn't die. I'm very lucky and I watched that footage back and I went, I'm not going to do that again. But we did eventually get the cactus into its new pot. No one cares. Yeah.

Well, however, we do care about your DIY fails. If you've got some, give us a call. We've got Natalia on the line. Natalia, what was your DIY fail? Hi, Laura. I'm here too. It's Brittany. Oh, hi, Brittany. Sorry. No, it's okay. I just felt like I wanted to be included. What happened with your DIY?

So it was a long weekend and it was our first house. Me and my hubby decided to save some money and do the ceiling insulation ourselves. And turns out I thought the beams were only a suggestion not to rule to walk on and I fell through the ceiling. Oh my God. Did you fall all the way through or did you get stuck?

No, so my cat-like instincts kicked in and I actually managed to grab onto the beam and next thing I know, I'm just hanging in my lounge room. So you just turned yourself into a human chandelier hanging from the ceiling. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, pretty much. Wow. Yeah, there was no injury, fever, so I came out pretty good. Oh, my God, Natalia, that could have ended so much worse. That's brilliant. All right, we've got Sophie on the line. Sophie, what is your DIY fail? Oh.

I had a friend I went to uni with who decided to try and save some money and do an at-home Brazilian and actually got her flap stuck together. Okay, this is coming from someone who I did my own Brazilians from like 15 until now. I still do them at home on my own.

It has happened before. It can happen if you leave the wax too long. You definitely don't rip them apart. Look, if this has happened to anyone, a little bit of lukewarm water, dab it on. Sit in a bar. Sit in a bar, yeah. The warm water, but you definitely don't try and just rip them apart. Wow. It's fragile. You try to cut them apart. Oh, my goodness. What? She gave herself a labiectomy. That was her tactic.

That is the worst. To try and, you know, cut that back open. Wow. She's like, let's cut my losses. Wow. That seems like a really drastic measure to take when there was probably. We'll keep him back on the way. Oh, wow. People are wild. How were you when she told you this story, traumatised?

Yeah, I've never recovered. Literally, I'm like, I've never had a Brazilian even professionally done. Ever since you told me that, I was like, I can never. It's laser only. Oh, Sophie, thanks for the call. Do you know what? If anyone's considering DIY maybe this week, this weekend, think about it. There's people that are professionals and they're professionals for a reason. Let's just get some laser maybe.

I tell you what, Laura, it is a dog-eat-dog world out there in the dating community, isn't it? I mean, you wouldn't know you've been married for seven years. Yeah, but prior to that, I dated everyone. So I had a good litmus. Don't worry. I mean, I also just did get married. I am off the market. But I have a bunch of single friends that are constantly like talking to me about what the online dating world is like. And it is really hard. And I have bad news.

It's getting harder. Do you think it's getting harder or do you think it's just always been like ever since online dating has come because you've just got the opportunity of choice. There's so many people. It's kind of like gamified online dating. Well, I think it's getting harder because if you think about when online dating started,

It was just like you signed up and had at it. Like men, women went on, you put your age on and basically that was it. But it's gotten – there's so many layers. It's gotten so complicated. And now Tinder has released – well, it's a trial. They're trialling a new feature that is not good news for our short kings. You can basically filter now for height. So if you say I only want a tall guy, which, you know, most women say, I only want a tall guy, it filters them out and then our short kings are not even given a chance.

It is causing a lot of stir online because there are a lot of people that are all for this feature. Like I guess a lot of women that know that they only want a tall guy, they're all for it. But there's a lot of people that are saying it's actually discrimination. Like you are filtering out on the way that I look physically, like my physical appearance.

And I have to say, I'm on their side. I don't think we should be having a height filter for online dating. It's a weird one, isn't it? Because it really kind of comes into this grey area. It's like having a bald filter or it's like having a weight filter. Yeah, a weight filter. The only thing though is if you are a woman and you are particularly tall, like a really, really tall girl, or you're a guy and you're a particularly short guy...

And maybe it just removes some of the admin because I would dare say that normally, and I know that this is a stereotype, I don't want to get myself into trouble, but often really tall girls and really short guys don't seem to be a perfect match. It seems as though like that would probably be the only time that it would come in handy. Yeah, but then maybe, I mean, not maybe, you don't have to have a filter for that. People can put their height on their bio themselves. But then they're doing it anyway. So then what's the difference? Yeah.

Because you're still given the choice. Like Zac Efron, hot mega babe. He's tiny. Is he? Yeah, I'm taller than Zac Efron. He's got tall man energy. He does. He's got BD energy. But my point is like I do think and in the words of producer Grace –

You're robbing yourself of love. Like you're robbing yourself of the potential. I've dated people that are shorter than me. They've been fantastic people. Did it work out? No, but it wasn't because of their height. Yeah, look, I mean, I know we make jokes. One of my ex-boyfriends was quite a bit shorter than me and it never made a difference. But I do think that if I had had the height restriction on Tinder, firstly, I would never have met him. But also I think I probably would have used it and so I would have ruled him out because...

I don't know. I guess I'm relatively tall for a girl. What am I? Like 177 centimeters? Yeah, which I would say that in dating, when I was online dating, I definitely rocked up to a couple of dates where my dates were particularly short and I knew, we both kind of met each other and were like, well,

Should have talked about this. I wish we'd asked, you know, and it's not like it should be a big deal but I think it is for a lot of people. I think a lot of people care about height. Yeah, but then why can't we just ask? Have those conversations. Talk to someone. Put it in your bio. I think the fact that we can now filter out people based on appearance for me is yucky. I don't like it and a lot of the short king men or other people are now sort of like firing back saying, cool,

if you want to filter from that, how do you feel if we put a weight filter on? Which, which is all a bit silly, isn't it? No, it's a bit tit for tat, but I understand what they're saying from that. Like I understand that they're offended that people can filter them out based on their physical appearance that they can't change. Yeah. And I guess the only thing is, is like if someone's borderline, like if someone is, what borderline? Tall? What is borderline? No, I mean like borderline

to your preference. You know, like they might be a little bit shorter than what you think you want in a person. But they're amazing in every other capacity. Like that seems a bit silly to rule someone out because you've got a bit of a height preference. You know what everyone, beggars can't be choosers too. If you're looking for love, don't single those men out. Zendaya didn't and she's engaged to Tom Holland and they're a beautiful couple. Very happy. Thank you so much for that, Britt. That was beautiful.

Now, I mean, I'm sure some of you know if you listen to the show, but it might be news to anyone who's new. I am currently pregnant with my third baby. And let me tell you, third pregnancy is a whole different kettle of fish to the first one and the second one. Just like doesn't even touch the sides really for you, does it? Well, yeah, the baby's just going to shoot straight out. It isn't even going to have any resistance. No, I didn't mean you were loose. No, I meant like it doesn't touch the sides. I didn't mean you're going to put your legs in stirrups and shoot it out.

As in like it hits different. Like again, that could be taken the wrong way. It is going to touch the sides on the way out. I mean it hits different like you're less involved in like it'll come in nine months because you've done it twice and you're busy. Yeah. Look. I love that you were like no, I still will touch people. I was like one can only hope that it does still touch the sides as it comes out. But anyway, look.

It is very different. And I say this because I feel like this pregnancy has just completely gotten away from me. And sometimes I feel pretty good since I've gotten my reflux under control that I often actually just forget that I'm pregnant. I figured you're pregnant. Yeah, until I get... Britt was talking about how we should do this morning. She was like, oh, we should really do this.

Like we should do a big party at the end of the year, like a show party. And we'll invite all our listeners and we can do it on a boat. And I was like, I'll have a six-week-old baby, but she sounds good. And I was like, what? Completely blanked that I was having a kid. But anyway, look, every so often I get a reminder. Like I'll get a massive thump to the uterus because I'll get a big solid kick. And I'm well past halfway now. I think I'm about 25 weeks.

And I just the other day discovered that I've hit a part of pregnancy or a new stage that I never got to in my first or second and it was incredibly humbling. So we were all in the office having a little dance. We were filming some content and part of that was that we had to like, you know, really kind of get into this dance that we were doing. And I did. I was really channeling my 19-year-old self being at the nightclubs and I dropped it like it's hot. Oh, yeah. And I did a liberated woman drop. Yeah.

I didn't live my best life drop. And I got to the bottom of that drop. I got low and I got low, I got low, I got low and then I pissed my pants at the bottom. You got apple bottom jeans. It was. I didn't and I'm not just talking about a tiny bit of bladder leakage. I got to the bottom of that drop and I fully wet myself. Well, maybe it won't touch the sides. I mean, it's just got to shoot right out. And there was something incredibly horrible.

I don't even want to say humbling because I know I've said that, but it was just humiliating having to stop and be like, sorry, everybody, I have to go to the bathroom. And now the problem is, is like, I don't know whether I did damage or whether I've just set things off or this kid is just on my bladder in a way that it shouldn't. I don't.

I think you did damage in your liberated woman job. I think it's part and parcel, right? Third pregnancy. Potentially, but it had never happened prior and now if I cough too hard, if I sneeze too hard, yeah, it's just, it's become part of my everyday staple. You're not alone, Laura. There are some pretty high statistics on women that have incontinence. I don't want you to be embarrassed. It works.

We all pretended it didn't happen. We all turned a blind eye and I even spilt my water bottle to try and cover it for me. And someone mopped up the puddle. And someone said, what is this? And I said, sorry, clumsy me again. I spilled my water bottle. It's my lime cordial juice. Apologies. You know what I think?

I forget you're pregnant, is because on the rare occasions I do remember, I try and feel it moving. You're like, oh, it's so movie. Every time I go and try and touch it, it just freezes. Like it doesn't want to move for me. I think it knows that I'm there. It's because you're very aggressive. Anytime you come over. Yeah. So like just before, this is literally just before we started the show, I was like, oh, the baby's kicking heaps. Come and feel. And Britt came over and she didn't stick her hand on my belly. She gave me an uppercut. You just don't rest your hand. You like really get in there. I thought you had to sort of poke it to make it move.

Do you not? I'm still trying to like feel it out. And then Britt says, oh, don't worry. I have a technique to get it to move. She lifts up my shirt and gives me a raspberry on my stomach. I'm a full grown woman having my third baby. And I don't think I've had a raspberry in 15 years. No, 15 years? 25 years. A long time. You're welcome. Long time. You're welcome. I enjoyed it. It is a trick.

that you are supposed to do? Like it must be like the vibrations or something. Like when you do a raspberry, it makes it tickle or something. I don't believe that for one second. I don't believe that giving someone a raspberry makes a baby move in their belly. Here we go. No. Actually, I stand corrected. No, blowing raspberries on a pregnant belly is unlikely to do anything. Well, there you go. Well, I just treated you to a little raspberry for your Tuesday. Well, I stand corrected. I've been raspberrying a lot of pregnant women.

I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. You're living, you're learning. I'm mind blown. I'm really mind blown. Oh God, Laura, I'm laughing thinking about this. So I took my new husband, Ben, to New Zealand on the weekend. Very lucky. New Zealand is so close. Two and a half hours, bang, you're there. We went to Queenstown.

And now Ben was quite excited about this because he was made aware that there aren't any, like, dangerous animals there. Because he's Swiss. He's very scared of animals. He hears snakes, sharks, crocodiles, spiders. I've never met. Totally. I was about to say, I've never met anyone who is as afraid of spiders as Ben is. Like, he sends Brit inside to check the house first before he goes in. No, every night. I have to screen the house. He has to watch me look in the wardrobes under the pillows of the bed. It's cute. Whatever. Yeah.

So we go to New Zealand and this I find really interesting. So Ben is a professional footballer, like soccer, and in their contracts they have something that I call the fun clause. It is a clause that basically I say doesn't allow fun. You can't do anything that could remotely end in an injury or danger. I'm talking things like mountain bike riding, skiing, snowboarding. We can't go bungee jumping, like anything.

Anything. When you say mountain bike riding, though, we were talking about it just before you guys went away. And I was like, oh, you should get like the e-bikes and go around the lake in Wanaka. You go like five kilometers an hour. Like I did it with the kids. And he was like, no, I can't do that. It's too dangerous. Might hurt myself. Yeah. And I was like, so what can you do? Well, right. So New Zealand, if you guys know, it's like the adventure capital. There's so much to do there. And I thought, okay.

I have to come up with an itinerary for him that is fun but no danger. So I searched high and low and I came up with what I thought was the perfect idea.

We went to, it's called Deer Park. We went to a park that has deers in it. Now, I know that doesn't sound very fun. Cute. Majestic. Majestic. I read that you could feed them and I was like, you know what? It has beautiful views. We're going to go and feed the deer. We're going to feed some piglets and there's like farm animals around. And what you do is you drive around and you get out whenever you see the animals because it's just a free range park, farm, and then you just feed them. So we're feeding some little piglets.

Super cute. Then we continued up and there's the most beautiful deer, right? So we're feeding the deer and they'll eat out of your hand. It's actually truly incredible. We were having a lot of fun. Like I was nailing it. Then we go further up the hill and there was a sign that said like if you see horned goats, don't get out of your car. It actually said don't even stop your car, right? Horned goats. Run over them. So I was like that's interesting. Anyway.

We see a pack of goats and I look and there's no horns. So I was like, cute. So we get out of the car and I was like, cute, let's feed them. Anyway, these goats...

These goats were savage. Out of nowhere, I have video. Go onto my Instagram and have a look. Out of nowhere, about 50 goats started to attack us. Basically, like, I was running for my life. I had to abort my phone because I thought I was going to die by these goats. They're so savage. I think they're really dumb. They chased us down. They did. They chased us down the hill. Anyway, you can hear Ben in the background of my footage being like, run, baby, run. Anyway, so I'm running.

We make it back in the car and they jump on the car. I'm not kidding. It was similar to being in a game park in South Africa and the lions are trying to get in. Like that's what I thought. I don't know if they're dumb. I don't know if that's the thing. No, they are. Go to dumb. Grace is Googling it. We've been to a national park before. It's called Sinbiro National Park. Took the kids and there's a goat enclosure and Lola was only about three years old and she got pounced by like three goats at once and the poor thing was like under the goats.

To pull the baby out. Like, oh God. But they just get very enthusiastic about food. They're very food motivated animals. Yeah. And that's why you can't go around the horned goats. Anyway, so I got horned basically. Oh wait, so the goats, wait, you got out of the car. They tapped me. But you didn't establish that they had horns. You said there was no horns on these goats. No, then 50 horned goats were hiding. It's like they planned the attack. It was like a kamikaze attack. It was a militia attack of the horned goats. Anyway, we get in the car. We actually couldn't stop laughing. Ben's like, I thought this was supposed

It's supposed to be the not dangerous thing. Like he's like, imagine if I went back to my football club and said, sorry, like I can't play football anymore. I got attacked by a goat. I got impaled by a goat in New Zealand. Are they dumb, Grace? They're actually very intelligent. Thank you. See, they know how to get the food. I guess they were hiding and pounced on me.

Is it saying anything else or is that it? Some research. Was that a full sentence? Some research suggests that goats are as intelligent as dogs. No way. I believe it. I believe it. Smart little things. They're also very cute when they're babies. Sometimes I find myself down a TikTok rabbit hole just watching, not rabbits. Baby goats. Baby goats. You know what? I'm going to put a video up. They do these little jumps, the baby ones. They're really cute. I've got a video. So that made up for it. Anyway, if you go to New Zealand,

Believe it or not, I do recommend it. It was really fun. Just don't get out around the horned goats. That's the PSA from Brittany on Twitter. That's my PSA. Well, Laura, it is that time of year again where Australia has the version of the Oscars. It is Gold Logie nomination time. The nominations have come out. And do you know what? The women are absolutely cleaning up. There's only one bloke, I think, Hamish Blakeson. Not surprising. I know. I mean...

He's going to be in it till he dies, right? If there's going to be one male who makes it into the Logie nomination, who do you reckon it's going to be? Hamish Blake. But there's so many incredible women that have been nominated. But one I'm very excited about, TV legend, TV veteran. I was in the jungle with her. She has hosted I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here 11 times. She has been nominated for a gold Logie four times and for some reason is yet to win. We're going to try and change that. Julia Morris, welcome to the show.

Well, I couldn't be more thrilled to be here with you two glorious humans. Julia, we are hard on the campaign trail for you this year. We are so behind you. I thought you were a shoo-in last year. This year it is, 2025. It is the year of Julia Morris. Surely. It's the year of the old mole. You've just got to get involved. Oh, my God, everyone keeps saying, what's the campaigning going to be like? I'm like, mate.

I can barely like feed Compass for the pick up and drop off. I do not know that I'm up to... Campaigning, you feel like a knucklehead campaigning. So I'm like, oh, a friend of mine and I just as a coincidentally, we're sort of whinging about how come we... You know, I was whinging. She's not in television. I was like, how come I keep sort of missing out on bits and pieces? I know I am hosting one of the biggest shows in the country, so it seems a bit disingenuous, but...

I'm always, you know, looking for like what's the next thing going to be? How do I broaden out, you know, just to earn money to, you know, pay the mortgage? Only fans. Yeah. I mean, we all know it's a matter of time. Everybody loves the sound of slapping. And...

When I released the double Ds, it sounds like you were at Oktoberfest and that's another story altogether. Okay, okay. I've been like a complete maniac. So the thought of now going into some weird self-promotion thing, my mate and I, I said to her, right, let's make a chat show in the backyard. I said, my backyard's epic.

Let's make a chat show. The first episode, it's literally, it's mostly out the back of our heads. Oh my God, it's so funny. It just accidentally turned into a little mini internet sitcom. And it's just a couple of people who have no idea what they're doing. And it's beyond hilarious. We've even been doing parkour. You're talking my language now. I do sporadic parkour too, Julia. Sorry, do we think that

this is going to shift the dial on the votes or are you just having a good time in between? Like, we've got to get the votes in as well. It was sort of accidental. Well, the thing is I thought, well, what will end up happening is if my audience that follow me on all my bits and pieces are chill with me not ramming the Logies down their throat and so I'm hoping just the fact that I have put some effort into making something

while a massive life is swirling around us all at all times. Who do you reckon is going to be the biggest competition this year? I mean, do you look at that and sit there going, oh, well, they did this and they did that? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Deep down, because you're like, you know, you would love to take it. I would love to be in history as one of those names. It is a tremendous honour. I was talking to someone recently who was in House Husbands with me, one of the ladies,

And we were saying, did you think we'd still be hustling at this age? Yeah, it doesn't end the hustle. She's like, no. Seniors of other industries have moved on to either be CEO or CFO or special, you know, whatever, FO. And so, you know, but in the entertainment industry, everybody hustling. We're still hustling. You know what? I think you've got it.

I think you've got a little secret weapon right at your disposal. We've seen Robert Irwin take his shirt off. We've seen him. Everyone loves him. He's your partner in crime. Get him amongst it. Like, I don't think it's – I think you beg, borrow and plead, and if that means stealing his shirt to get him on your campaign trail again, I think you've got to do it. Yes, but I had to start processing at the beginning of his sentence because I was just like, ooh, do I need to get out of the undies? Hang on. Get the snake out. I thought I'd seen enough snakes. I've got no business with them.

And, yeah, maybe I'm in the undies in the front yard on the Astro Tour. You could do it together. We don't discriminate. You guys are having a very parallel experience at the moment because he's about to start shooting Dancing with the Stars in the US. And actually, Sonia, Sonia's up for a logie as well. You're up against some good people. Absolutely.

That was the other great pleasure about it yesterday and when you're saying like, you know, do you eye up the competition? I mean, we were all laughing. You watch six women nominated, one man takes it. Oh, we laughed. Stop it. No, Hamish has had enough. He's had his day. Oh, and also Hamish was like, please, please, nobody vote for me. And I was like, mate.

You know, get your game on. None of us want to hand it to us. And let me tell you, every single person on that stage, if they took it, you'd go, worthy winner though. Yeah. Worthy winner. Yes, Julia, we are. And so, so have your back on this. We can't wait to see you up there on stage.

Oh, my goodness. Well, let me tell you, the speech would be unbridled because I've got a feeling the vibrance would have worn off like hours before. 100%. And so would the HRT. I get very scared of, you know, around that 5 to 11 at night. You're like, oh, that's mummy's witching hour. And that's when you'd be on. That's when you'd be on. Well, I reckon everyone needs to vote just for that, to see it. I'd be like, level up.

Yeah, I've even told my haters. From what I've observed with the gold logie, you sort of then go and disappear not long after that. So you're like, well, here's the thing. If you hate me, you can make me go away by giving me this gold logie. Brilliant. There's your campaign. Well, there's both sides of it. You can vote now. Go and vote for Julia Morris to win the gold logie at the TV Week Logies, everyone. It's at tvweeklogies.com.au.

We've been on a real discovery journey today. We've learned a few things about each other in this team that we didn't know. One of them being that when Grace puts a doona cover onto her blankets, she climbs inside the doona cover. Instead of like a normal human, hear me out. If you don't know how to put a doona on a bed, there's a technique. You put it inside out, you grab the corners and then you flick it so that it goes across. Grace climbs inside. Okay, no, I'm also doing that but sometimes you have to find the corners. She climbs inside like it's a great big sleeping bag. To be fair, sometimes

Sometimes I flick between the two. I don't have a side that I lace with, but sometimes I also climb inside with my hands spread out, like spread eagle, and push them into the corners and then wriggle backwards. Then you stand on the bed so that you've got enough length and you shake it out. Oh, my God, guys, let's not even get into how we do our fitted sheets because we might be here all day. Okay, but there is actually something that's come up. So there's a New Zealand show that was talking about the concept of how you read books. So hear me out.

When you read a book in your head, like you sit down at the end of your day and you have your favourite book and you're reading through the dialogue between different characters…

Do you voice those characters in different ways or do you just read a book like you're reading a normal piece of paper? Have a listen to this. My husband, Art, and I were lying in bed reading our books and I said to Art, oh, this book is taking me ages because it's set in Scotland. And Art was like, sorry? And I was like, oh, well, it's tricky for me to do a Scottish accent. And he was like,

what do you mean to a Scottish accent? And I didn't realise that that is perhaps an abnormal thing to do. So when I'm reading,

I'm doing the voices in my head and the accents. It's like a narration. Okay, so we discovered that our very own Brittany Hockley also does the same thing, which is just utterly insane. Not weird. It's so weird. Mind you, mine's exactly, so my favourite book series ever, there's six books in the series, is called Outlander by Diana Gabaldon. It's been made into a TV show, but it is set in the Scottish Highlands.

It took me years to read those books, mainly because there's A, there's six thick books, B, it's Scottish. You have to do the Scottish accent in your head. Is it Scottish or is it in English but therefore – because it's not – No, but it's set in Scotland and it's –

And a lot of it's set in what they call the Gaelic, which is like the language back in Scotland. And a lot of it is written because it's set in the 1700s. So a lot of it's written in different kind of English, like a really old school English. And I read it in my head how it is said and how it would be like, I read it like that.

I do. That's what I do. Okay, but walk your way a little less. All right, but that's a very specific example. What if you're just reading like a romance novel that's got, you know, a guy and a girl in it? Do you read like as in your head, does the male voice have a male sound and the female voice isn't it? Like do you create characters? I think I'm more –

More so than male, female, I'm more accent. So if someone has a French accent, I'm doing that in my head. Like I'm, you want a croissant? Like whatever. I do it like... Why? Why? I don't know, but that's how my brain works. I just read it like I'm reading any piece of paper. Boring. Nothing. It makes no difference. I'm just efficiency. I'm in there. I'm out. Like I know it's the guy speaking. I know it's the girls. My brain doesn't need the...

the character rehearsal. You need to read for the imagination where it transports you, where it takes you. You want to have all your senses. You don't want to read like you're reading a dictionary. Well, this is like, this is the other thing. This debate or like question came up quite a few weeks ago. But do you have an internal monologue was the other one. So, you know, I think a lot of people as they're just getting about their day, they have a little voice inside their head, not a crazy one, just like,

you know, the little voice that you hear that tells you what to do and talks to you as you're doing stuff. And mine is always talking to me. And then there are some people out there

a percentage of the population that just hears nothing. That's me. I don't believe you hear nothing. I don't talk in my head much at all. Like I don't really have an internal monologue. I don't talk things through. I don't really have a filter. But my husband, Ben, we have quite a few arguments about the same thing and that is him telling me he's told me something before and we've broken it down a couple of days ago actually. He said...

I say things in my head so many times that I'm convinced I've said it out loud to you. And it's not until I've said, I will put my life on this, you haven't told me that, that he realises he's only said it in his brain. I'm sitting here with my mouth open because it is actually shocking to me that people don't just talk in their own heads all the time. Mine is so noisy. Maybe that's another problem. Yeah, but look at...

Look at your life and look at what's around you right now. Your internal brain is like surrounding you. I may need to be medicated but I just feel like my brain is, it's always going. And if it's not going, I'm like counting things. I'm doing all kinds of weird stuff just to keep my brain occupied. It's not that I can't do it because some people,

are a step further. There are people that do it. There's people that don't do it, but there are some people that physically can't. They cannot muster up a voice in their brain. I can do it. And sometimes I will, like I'll roll my eyes in my brain. Do you know what I mean? Like my brain will be like, wow, I can't believe she said that or whatever. Not about you.

Maybe it was about you. But my brain's not messy and chaotic. Like I'm not doing – it's quite empty. I think I've told you that before. Grace, are you – producer Grace, are you – what are you doing? Chaos thoughts constantly. Are you thinking? I'm thinking. But the voice is going constantly. Thank God. It's so strange. No, it's so relaxing to me. Wow. I would love to spend a day in your brain just to tune out for a while. I find this –

I find this utterly fascinating. Look, I mean, go and join the conversation on the Pick Up socials if you want to tell us if you have a constant internal monologue. Maybe you do a full dress rehearsal for when you're reading books and everyone's got an accent and a special voice. I'd love to know because I feel like we all do this very differently. You should see how I read Harry Potter. That was a wild ride.