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Hey, you. And good morning. Welcome again to another program, Preston Steve Radio Show. Let's see how we're doing weather-wise. One more cold one. I mean, it's going to continue to be cold. One more really cold one today. The high temperature, about 28 degrees. It will be breezy as well. We're looking at 20-mile-an-hour winds and cloudy skies, but there is hope on the horizon. Tomorrow, just a tiny bit warmer. High 36 degrees and sunshine, so return of the daylight.

And then Saturday and Sunday, we will finally be into the 40s. By Monday, 50 degrees. Oh, my God. You've got to be kidding me. So there is relief in sight. And now, Preston and Steve's News Update with Kathy Romano.

Today is Thursday. It's February 20th. Good morning, Kathy. Good morning. In the news this morning, a medical helicopter at Jefferson Hospital in Center City, Philadelphia is grounded after it was struck by an unknown object, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. Happened on

Monday afternoon as it was landing at the hospital following a flight from Quakertown. The FAA says two rotary delays were damaged. Philadelphia police are also investigating the incident. Thomas Jefferson Hospital has not yet commented on the incident.

Preston, the historic S.S. United States ocean liner began its journey down the Delaware River out of Philadelphia. I was wondering if you were going to finally report on that or not. Well, because I heard it again and I was like, well, let's see. You become immune to the stories after a while. And then lo and behold, it actually started moving yesterday. It started moving yesterday. The final voyage of...

finally began on Wednesday morning, setting sail on the Delaware River to travel to Alabama. After making a stop in Mobile, Alabama for repairs, the historic ship will reach its final destination in Destin, Florida, where it will be sunk to become part of the world's largest artificial reef. So they still haven't removed all the potential contaminants aboard and things of that nature. No, that's happening in Alabama. That's in Alabama, yeah. They figured they'd deal with it.

Let them deal with it. Christened in 1952, the SS United States was once considered a beacon of America's engineering, doubling as a military vessel that could carry thousands of troops. On its maiden voyage, it shattered the transatlantic speed record in both directions when it reached an average speed of 36 knots or just over 41 miles per hour. The ship crossed the Atlantic in three days, 10 hours and 40 minutes.

To this day, the SS United States holds the transatlantic speed record for an ocean liner. You can track the ship's travel progress with GPS by visiting the Okaloosa County-Dustin-Fort Walton Beach tourism page. If you ever get a chance, there are a number of documentaries about the SS United States. And it's amazing the history of it. As I said many times before, it was during a time of...

You know, racism, you know, in the early 60s and civil rights issues. There was no race distinction on board. Everyone was together. That was part of the way the ship operated. It was pretty amazing. And then all of the work it did during World War II. And I mean, with troops, I should say, troop transport. Amazing history. And now it is on its way to Alabama and then eventually to be sunk in Florida. Yeah.

The flu, namely influenza A, has been rapidly spreading through our region. Just last Friday, the entire Eagles nation came out to celebrate during a flu season that has already packed a punch. The chief of pulmonary and critical care at Temple Jeans Campus says we're just at the cusp and we're starting to see people get sick. He says, obviously, it's better to be outside in the open air when you're in a big crowd, but he won't be surprised if we still see a spike in sickness.

According to CDC data, this is the highest rate of flu ever recorded since the 1997-1998 flu season. It did make me rethink setting up a kissing booth during the parade. I probably should not have done. Kathy, when we were on the phone the night before, or maybe it was two days before the parade, whenever it was, and you're like, yeah, okay, I'm going to be okay. I'm going to make it. I'm like...

We're going to be in a car with you and you're spreading your sick all over us. This is going to be great. I was actually thinking of wearing a diving helmet.

The Philadelphia region is seeing very high flu rates, and unfortunately, we're in good company. 35 states across the United States show the same. A flu shot, while it takes some time to kick in, can aid in reducing symptoms if you do become sick, and then Tamiflu can shorten the time that people are feeling unwell. Flu symptoms include fever, chills, headache, runny nose, nausea, fatigue, loss of appetite, and sore throat. You didn't. You took Deal With It, right? That was the medication you took? I took Deal With It. Yes.

Because there was at a certain point you had it for about two weeks, right? No, no, I got sick. So I got sick right after Super Bowl Sunday. So Monday I went to bed and I start. I remember I started to cough. Right. Oh, that's weird. What's that? Came to work Tuesday and like just was coughing. I'm like, damn it. I can't believe I'm getting this. So like halfway through, I thought I was getting better when you were not. Yesterday you were dry coughing.

I'm still coughing, yeah. I think I had COVID, though. I don't think I had the flu. I never actually tested positive, but I had all the COVID symptoms as opposed to flu symptoms, or at least leaning that way. So, yes. Got that under my belt. I feel bad for you, because you know what? If anything's coming down the line in the news, we'll just say, oh, I wonder when Kathy's going to get that. Seriously, exactly. All right, let's do sports this morning. All right.

All thanks for your visit.

What the f*** is that? The Four Nations Tournament concludes tonight. Team USA will take on Team Canada in the championship game. The puck will drop in Boston tonight at 8 o'clock. The Sixers, who have been off for the All-Star break, return to action, hosting the Boston Celtics tonight. Tip-off is set for 7 o'clock. The Eagles fill the offensive coordinator job, promoting passing game coordinator Kevin Petullo. He'll replace...

Kellen Moore, who was hired as the head coach for the New Orleans Saints. 43-year-old Petullo has had a long history with Coach Nick Sirianni. Petullo served as wide receivers coach and then past game specialist for the Colts from 2018 to 2020 when Sirianni was the Colts offensive coordinator. When Sirianni became the Eagles head coach in 2021, he hired Petullo as the team's past game coordinator. And the Eagles are still the Super Bowl champions.

How about that? And that's what I have for you this morning. Thank you very much, Kathy. So we're set to go for a Thursday morning. And we have a couple of guests on the show that we love having on the program. They've been here before. So we're going to have wrestler Drew Kulak stopping by today. Love that guy. He has the Catchpoint Professional Wrestling training in our area. So if you or someone you know has been interested in taking a shot at it, man. Kathy raves about it.

Yeah, Milano. He's been enrolled for half a year now. Yeah, I'd love to see that. I would love to see that. Honestly.

So Drew's going to be stopping by at the 8 o'clock hour. And another favorite of ours, composer Laura Cartman is going to be joining. She is the one who wrote the score for the film Captain America, Brave New World. She's done a number of projects for the MCU. Incredibly talented, super cool gal. I want to see a documentary about all of her glasses. The most ornate glasses you've ever seen. Huge, multifaceted.

She's got some style and she's a really cool person. So we'll check in with her around nine o'clock this morning. And we also have a meet and eat today. Clusters handcrafted popcorn will be here. Yes. And they're going to.

Have some treats for everybody so we will have your chance to win some goodies from those guys too. So we're feeling good on this already Thursday morning. Yes. That's a good thing. Friday, you can taste it. So we'll take a quick break. Come back in a second. The Entertainment Report and the Stupid Question, as you know, are on the way. We'll be back in a moment.

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When Michael Jackson was a guest voice on The Simpsons, he used a different name in the end credits. Right, right, right. What was it? Oh, man. 215-263-WMMR. It's a great episode. All right. So when Michael Jackson was a guest voice on The Simpsons, he used a different name in the end credits. And what was that? 215-263-WMMR. Call if you know the answer. We'll mention some birthdays. Kill some time. Wait for that call. Today's the 20th day.

And we'll begin with actress Lauren Ambrose for Steve and Kathy, who watched Servant. She's the main female lead in that, the mom. She's in Yellow Jackets, right? She's in Yellow Jackets, too, Kathy. When she popped up, I was like, wait, I know her. She's been around forever. She plays the adult character, Van, in Yellow Jackets. And she's a trained opera.

opera singer. Oh, I didn't know that. As well. She was in Six Feet Under. That's where I got to know her. Right, right. She was the daughter in that show. And by the way, it's a really, really good show. Six Feet Under? Yeah. A lot of people love that show, yeah. And each episode is, you know, it's got its own little story, but you know, there's a whole story arc that goes on as well. Yeah. I like her a lot. She is 47 today. It's Sandy Duncan's birthday today. Yeah, Sandy Duncan. This is a theme from the Hogan family, I believe. Uh-huh.

But she turns 79 years old today. She also played Peter Pan. She did for a long time. Back in the day when they had ladies playing Peter Pan. She was on the Six Million Dollar Man. I remember the whole story. Correct me if I'm wrong, Case. It was Valerie's family originally, right? Yeah. Valerie Harper. And then they got into some sort of contract conflict.

And her character burned to death in this sitcom. I don't know. That's what I heard is that she died. There was a house fire. I don't think they killed her in the house fire. In the house fire. I think it was like when it rains a forest type of thing. Like, yeah, mom died and then our house burned down. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And Steve, was she, because I always get her mixed up with somebody else. She wasn't the Wesson Oil gal, was she? That was Florence Henderson, wasn't she? Florence Henderson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Sandy, I think, did like Wheat Thins or something like that. Oh, yeah, Wheat Thins. That was her product. Sandy! Florence Henderson had that certain Wessonality.

She is 79 today, Sandy Duncan. Then we have actor Andrew Hsu, who was on Melrose Place. Billy on Melrose Place. But I didn't know this. A little tidbit about him is...

He's on the board of directors for Do Something, which he co-founded and is the co-founder of the social networking website, CafeMom.com, which I'm not familiar with, but that's where he dabbles and makes a fair amount of money. He has a famous ex-boyfriend.

who left him to go with another celebrity. I'm trying to... Yeah. Amy Roback is his ex, Steve? That's it. Yes. She ended up with TJ Holmes. I'm not sure who he is. Maybe he's related to John Holmes. Do you remember? No, no. He's another news anchor. That's right. Preston, you remember that whole Good Morning America thing with Amy Roback? Yep. And they had the affair and they were asked to leave. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she was Andrew's shoes. She was cheating on...

on him with this guy. And his sister is Elizabeth. That's correct. Wait, Preston, is this cafe mom his?

It says the co-founder of the social networking website. How about that? Wow, interesting. And then speaking of Elizabeth Shue Press, I know you're a huge Cobra Kai fan. I just saw people doing auditions for the part that Elizabeth Shue had. It was like Kate Capshaw, like all these other people. Oh, they were up for the role? They were up for that role. And it's like, yeah, you can't imagine any of these other people playing that part. Yeah, she was so great in that. I just fell in love with her.

Yeah. As Ally. She was America's sweetheart. We also have actor French Stewart. You remember him from Third Rock from the Sun? Super talented. I always liked him a lot. Yeah. He still works. Just no big, big, big roles that you know of. He's 61 today. Actress Lily Taylor, who was in Mystic Pizza, Say Anything. She's the one that writes all the songs about Joe. Joe Lies.

And The Conjuring. The Conjuring. So she's great in The Conjuring, but she's in that horrible remake of The Haunting. Yeah. Just over the top. Insane. She's 58 today. Our buddy Miles Teller has a birthday. Yep, Rooster from Top Gun Maverick. Of course, in Whiplash, Fantastic Four, Divergent, huge, huge, huge. And the huge hit...

Huge fan of the Phils that we found out when we were in spring training last year. And, of course, the Eagles as well. He was at the Super Bowl. Didn't you guys sit with his father? His dad, yeah. Absolutely. So maybe he'll be at spring training. I don't know. We'll have to see. Impression he's in the Gorgie. Better known as the Gorge. Oh, yeah. The Gorgie? Yeah. He is 38 today. And actor Anthony Head on Ted Lasso. He plays Rupert. And he's...

It's funny because there's an actor who's known for primarily playing, like on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, he was the good guy and usually played the good guy. But what an amazing prick. Yeah, totally. In fact, I would say that at the end of Ted Lasso, the only character that was not redeemed was him. Yeah, I believe you're right. Everyone else had an arc that redeemed them. I would agree. I would agree. He's 71 years old today. Rihanna has her birthday. Yes! Woo!

Rihanna turns 37 years old today. Her, I guess, husband just got acquitted of in court. Is it ASAP Rocky, her gal? Yeah. Oh, that's the dude? Really? I didn't know. I saw that he was exonerated for assault or something. I don't know. I don't really know him. I know Rihanna very, very well.

well. She's fabulously wealthy off of the Fendi line. That's her. What's Fendi? Fashion line. She what? That's her line. Rihanna, right? She's associated with Fendi. Oh, okay. Isn't Fendi also, I think it's her name?

Whose name? Rihanna. Is it? What, her last name? Fenty. Fenty is her F-E-N-T-Y. There we go. Thank you, Marissa. Because Fenty's older. Her name is Robin Rihanna Fenty. Fenty. F-E-N-T-Y. Okay. It's so confusing. And then last birthday,

is Olivia Rodrigo. She's a lovely girl. She's a lovely girl. What did you call Preston a shunt to? High school musical. She was in that for a while. She's a singer. Big career. Are you a fan, Preston? Dude, she's only 22. Thank God. No, I know the name and I don't really know her music. You know driver's license, right? No, I don't. Gotta get my driver's license. Gotta drive my car.

You don't know that? You would be amazed how out of touch I actually am, folks, if we ever sat down and really talked about it. Well, look at me. I thought Fenty was Fendy. I know, but like...

I don't know. You have children. My children don't listen to that stuff. His children don't listen to that? They listen to awesome stuff. I know. Get off his back. And what I don't do is I don't spend a lot of time scrolling through social media to hear these songs that are used in clips by girls dancing and whatnot. I know, but why are you acting like you're mad at me? Why are you acting like you're mad? I just don't know driver's license. Play it. Hit it.

I remember you guys mentioning this song to me, but... So you don't know this one? Oh, I'm gonna hit it for you, Preston. This was just a massive, huge hit, and it really, really hit with high school kids. Yeah.

Yeah, it's not in my world. It's just not. I try. You try. You're more of a shanty guy. High school kids' case of me when I'm driving home. Is it a sad song? It's just like a night. Why am I always sick? It's a coming-of-age song, you know, and it's something that we've all sort of gone through at that time in our lives. When you get your driver's license? Well, when somebody else gets their driver's license. I got my driver's license.

And I'm going to go drive. See, I thought you were really singing the song, Reach. I thought that was exactly how it went. I don't know. I don't do the scrolling thing. But anyway, so when your friend gets their driver's license, what, you don't see him anymore, that type of thing? Or, you know, it's... Relationships that just go away. Because they have the license, you part ways. Yeah. So happy 22nd birthday to... God, my love, it's been a hit. Happy 22nd.

That's so good. That's the first song in her driver's license. Now I can legally vote. I will spend the rest of the day today becoming familiar with Olivia Rodrigo's music. I expect a report on my test bite about her. Let's see if we can get an answer here.

Let's see. When Michael Jackson was a guest voice on The Simpsons, he used a different name in the end credits. And what was it? 215-263-WMMR. I will go to Ron and see if he knows. Hey, Ron, good morning, buddy. Good morning to you all. All right, Ron, what name did Michael Jackson use in the credits of The Simpsons? John Jay Smith. Yeah, John Jay Smith. Hang on, Ron. Yeah!

One more time, please, if you would. Yay, it's a slumber party. All right, we are going to give you a pair of tickets as MMR Rock's Paul Simon Quiet Celebration Tour is going to be Saturday, June 28th at the Academy of Music. And tickets for all three Paul Simon shows go on sale this Friday at 10 a.m. at Ensemble Arts Philly.

So we'll get into some stories. We'll start with this. Cynthia Erivo set to take the stage as host for the 78th Tony Awards following her recent success in Wicked. I watched Enchanted again. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm really digging it. Enchanted or Wicked? Wicked. I'm sorry. I'm all over the place today.

She steps into the role previously held by Ariana DeBose, who hosted the last three ceremonies. And Revo is no stranger to Broadway's biggest night. She won a Tony in 2016 for a powerful performance in the color purple. And she is eyeing EGOT status.

as she already has an Emmy for a televised performance of The Color Purple, a Grammy for the show's cast recording, and a Tony for the performance. And now she's eyeing an Oscar with her nomination for playing Elphaba in Wicked. So that would be pretty cool if she got it. What I suggest we do, Preston, let's add a second T to that EGOT and make it the Toasty. So tasty. With Marissa's award. That'd be nice. All right. The EGOT-ed.

I guess is what you would call that. Blake Lively has filed an amended complaint that alleges that her It Ends With Us co-star and director Justin Baldani made two other women on set uncomfortable and that they are willing to testify.

The filing claims that Lively was not alone in raising concerns in 2023, and that Baldani acknowledged the complaints in writing, yet the production company, Wayfarer, failed to investigate or take action.

Lively also accuses Baldani's lawyer, Brian Friedman, of spreading inflammatory content to media outlets to damage her credibility and intimidate potential witnesses. Baldani's legal team denies the allegations, calling them unsubstantiated hearsay and stating that evidence, including real-time documents and video, will contradict Lively's claims. It's funny how much, as I'm learning through this legal YouTube channel that they're examining this case...

How much of this is simply thrown out there as smokescreen? Oh, sure. To muddy the waters for jury pools and things of that nature, where so much of this will have not one iota of sway over the decision finally, but it's there to muck up things. Yeah, totally. The lawsuit began when Lively first accused Baldani of sexual harassment and emotional harm, and Baldani has countersued for defamation and extortion.

The trial is set for March of next year. Oh, my God. So we have another year. Of this crap. Of hearing about all this mudslinging going on in the press. I'm thinking of suing him. Just to get him to shut up. Yeah.

Tori Spelling has admitted on her podcast that she spent hundreds of dollars on her friends Denise Richards' OnlyFans without realizing how the platform worked. She said OnlyFans are brilliant. They get you hooked. And she explained that she kept purchasing content while hoping for a response from Denise.

In the end, she ended up spending just over $450, but it didn't go unnoticed. Her business manager later called because they had suspected that her then-husband, Dean McDermott, was the one who was sending the money. Yeah, that he was the one who was sending the money.

I spent all the money and she confessed to her business manager, uh, clearing McDermott of the blame. Uh, Richards had joined only fans in 2022 after her daughter faced criticism for making an account. So that's why she has an account. It says she, you said it was her friend. Denise Richards is her friend apparently. Yeah. So I guess she was on there. I guess she was,

checking out the site and maybe she wanted to spend a little bit of money or something, but she was spending money unknowingly. It's just weird that it's her friend. What I got was that she wanted to support... It's stupid. That's what it seems like. But having never been on there, I don't know...

I guess you have to sign up. You have an account to access even in the first place, I guess. I always assumed it was like a monthly subscription. Yeah, subscription. You know, that kind of thing. And you pick the person you want. But man, you know how many years I had a dwarf porn site that I signed up so we could get audio clips? Yep. And that stayed on for... You never stopped paying. Yeah. I guess not just the subscription, but I assume you could also purchase more content directly. Yes, yes. Like...

Like custom content. And premium stuff. Yeah, stuff like that. So that's probably what she was doing. I don't know. All right, here's a spending money story for you. Tom Brady must believe in the phrase time is money because he just gifted his 15-year-old son...

A bunch of it. In a video recap of the NFL Legends Super Bowl Sunday, he is seen surprising his teen son, his teen son, Benny, with a watch. Brady said, all right, Benny, close your eyes and put your wrist out. Don't look. Before putting a Jacob and Company's billionaire mini Ashoka watch, which is covered in 100 carats of diamonds and is worth $1,000.

Shut up. That was the watch he was wearing during the Super Bowl, right? Is it the same one? I think it's the same brand. I don't know. I didn't see the video. It's not the same one, no, because the one he was wearing was more gold. And it didn't have a diamond band on it. It's tremendously garish. Yeah.

He's going to get his son's arm chopped off. I would never... I didn't wear watches when I was 15 years old. But hey, if the kid digs it, great. He must have something with it because it is the same company. It's the same company. Yeah.

But it's a $3 million watch that you are giving to a 15-year-old kid. It's like giving a Rolls Royce to an 11-year-old. Yeah. To me, it makes no sense. But will he be allowed to wear it at his discretion whenever he wants to? Or is it like... When he's churning butter? You have to come to me first before I allow you to walk out of the house with this on your... Also, does he take that off for gym class? Yeah, right? Listen...

You can't... Throw it in your locker. There's nothing in public you can do without security if you're wearing that thing. Three. Three million dollars. Someone could kill you over that. Someone will kill you for that. Yeah. I'll kill him for that. We'll see where this goes. Imagine being Rihanna. We're just talking about her. It's her birthday. D...

Imagine being Rihanna, DMing your favorite reality star, and then getting blown off for a year. Dear Rihanna, I really would love to wax that ass. So, Summer House star Amanda Batula told...

told the Conversations With Cam podcast that the singer messaged her, but she didn't respond. Batula said she was so shocked when she got the message, she ignored it entirely. She said, I was so afraid and depressed that I didn't respond. She said, I swear to God. She said, you're my favorite TBH singer.

And she did eventually get up the courage to DM her back. She said, I finally responded and I said, I love you, queen, with an umbrella emoji. And when asked if she ever heard back, Batula said, no. She said, because I think it was like a year later. What? She just, for whatever reason, she couldn't bring herself. She was too nervous? To respond. Yeah, Kath. Let me ask you, right? So, and you have a certain level of profile in the industry. I mean, obviously we're radio. So we're the whipping lower end of the tier.

But if out of the blue, Alex Lifeson would... I would immediately fire back. Would you assume it was real? No. I had an interesting scenario happen. So I told you guys, I'm very loose on social media. I'm a total whore. But I don't go on very often. And when I do, it's for short amounts of time.

uh, on my Instagram account, but I didn't, I, I, I didn't know that, that anyone could DM you. I just, I only looked at the part where people who you follow DM you and, and I would, you know, it's mainly just you guys. Sure. And so, uh,

I went into that public DM folder and I'm like, oh my God, there's all these messages here. What is this? And one of them was from Aries Spears. Yeah. It reads out to me. And it was almost a year after the fact. And I responded to him like, hey man, I just discovered that people can't

He reached out to me like this. Did he respond back? Yeah. He was like, don't worry about it. He was interested in coming by the show. That's why he reached out to me. And so he was laughing in the text. It is an interesting way to correspond with anybody because you can. I mean, you can reach out to basically anybody on the planet if they have an Instagram account. But that's how Rob McElhenney and Ryan Reynolds ended up working with one another. Ryan...

sent some praise rob's way for rob learning how to dance and doing that ballet um show on it's always sunny yeah and now they're business partners are you saying that ari spears and i could own a football club absolutely i could have that's a step if i would have you could be married to blake lively yeah oh my god see wow just check your dm check your dms i need to i'll do that right let's collab next commercial break

Olivia Munn, not Rodrigo. Whoa, that's okay. Says she missed out on a huge payday and all she had to do was keep quiet. She was with Monica Lewinsky on her podcast. And Munn told the story of a set that she worked on where there were all sorts of red flags, enough so that she filed a complaint.

And while avoiding specifics, Munt explained that after she complained, the studio saw it her way with an asterisk. She said it got to a place where I was offered a lot of money, seven figures to accept. She said, I guess their apology and them taking acknowledgement of it. The problem, though, is she had to sign a nondisclosure agreement to collect. And her statement was, I said...

I'm not signing an NDA. And they said, well, you have to. And I just felt that it was so wrong. And she added, I turned to my lawyer and I said, I'm just not going to do it. And I want to say no now. So I assume this is for the movie Predator, which was directed by Shane Black. Not the original one. Yeah. This is the one that was about four or five years ago. And Olivia Munn was in it. You remember this one case? I do, yeah. And there were all sorts of charges of some of the producers and maybe even Shane Black himself.

in a sort of Me Too situation. And she was cited at that time. So I have to assume it's that.

Yeah, and so they were going to give her seven figures, and all she had to do was sign an NDA. Yeah. But she just couldn't bring herself to, because you never know, down the road, you may want to speak out about something. Talk about it, yeah. So for whatever reason, or you may have to, for all you know. But yeah, so she passed on that. So I haven't watched Survivor in ages, but former Survivor star, a guy named Brandon Hance-

has been arrested in a huge biker gang takedown by Texas law enforcement. Wow. They're reeled in not only Hans, but 13 other gang members. From other various reality shows? No, not from other reality shows. Well, I don't know. If so, they didn't make the headlines. The people from Big Brother right here, Survivor here, and what's it? 90 Day Fiancé. You guys don't go anywhere.

So, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Texas unsealed a 22-count indictment yesterday, charging Hans and 13 others with a variety of crimes, alleging that they're members or associates of the Bandidos motorcycle gang. Hans is not accused of assault or murder, but he is facing charges of racketeering, conspiracy, and arson. What's racketeering? Racketeering is...

Well, it's like gambling and criminal... It's a broad term for any sort of criminal activity.

We came up with a great reality show here we should do, Preston. Hell's Angels Island. Okay. Right? I love it. Where they compete against the pagans. They had the same challenges. Right. But they're two warring biker gangs. Okay. I think there's potential there. I think you need to add more biker gangs so it's not just... Sure. The Banditos would be in there too. The Banditos, yeah. The Wild Hogs maybe. I don't know. I don't really know my biker gangs. So family... The 80 for Brady crew. Yeah.

So each charge potentially earns this guy up to 20 years. So it's serious. Family members told TMZ Hans' home was raided by the FBI yesterday, though he left the Bandidos last year. He appeared on Survivor South Pacific and Survivor Caramone, I guess. I don't know. So anyhow, that dude's in some serious trouble. This is a fun little story.

Think back all the way to 2007. YouTube clip that went viral. Charlie bit my finger. Yes, classic. We all remember this, right? Well, it was one-year-old Charlie Davies Carr who bit his big brother Harry Davies Carr's finger. And Charlie's been pretty quiet on the internet despite his baby fame, but he's sharing a rare life update in a new interview with BBC Newsbeat.

And he said, it's not like I use it as an icebreaker or anything. He's now 18 years old, by the way. But he said, I was never going to use this as a fun fact. But his friends do blow up his spot from time to time. He said, my friends like to tell people sometimes, so it's hard keeping it locked down. And he adds...

It slips out every now and then, and people are like, oh, that's cool, for like five minutes. Or they say, I don't know what that is. So you don't get a whole hell of a lot out of it. I think that it wasn't Charlie that was the star of that video. It was Harry. Yeah. Charlie. Yeah, that's it. My finger. Yeah. I think he was the star of it. It's funny, though, that a lot of these...

And this is, it's coming for everyone. And everyone now who's enjoying flash in the pan status, eventually it goes away. Yes. Yeah. And maybe throughout your life, every eight or nine years, it might flare back up for a moment. Right. And you'll get that thing. But it's a little footnote of your life. And yes, it certainly is just a little brief moment.

if you will. Yeah, I want to know what the Star Wars kid is up to these days. Oh my God. He ran. Yeah. He ran from that. Like, it traumatized him. He had like a nervous breakdown. Did he really? Yes. My guess is, honestly, in retrospect, you're probably dealing with a kid who's a little bit on the spectrum. Maybe. And so...

I can't help it. That goddamn video when it came out was so funny. And then when they added the actual lightsaber effects. Yes. Yes. Yes.

They had the blaster shooting at him that he was blocking everything. That was great. You know what? Because who a kid hasn't done that? Oh, my God. Hold on it, man. Don't you wish he could have embraced that? Yes. Yeah, I was being a nerd. Yeah. You got me. You got me. But sometimes it hurts. It stings. All right. Another round of presenters for the Oscars.

has been revealed. Selena Gomez, Ben Stiller, Joe Alwyn, Sterling K. Brown, Willem Dafoe, Ana de Armas, Lily Rose Depp, Goldie Hawn, Connie Nielsen, and Oprah Winfrey have all been added to the growing roster of celebs. Speaking of Willem Dafoe, did you see this video recently? There was a guy who's just randomly going up to people in New York, and I guess, you know, like some people...

who have a social media channel, they'll just do random interviews. Right, right. Walk up and ask questions to people on the street. It's constant. Walked up to Willem Dafoe. Had no idea. Excuse me, sir, what's your name? Willem. And what do you do for a living? I'm an actor. And he started asking him all these questions, and he was just getting these really great, honest answers from Willem Dafoe. But didn't know who he was. Yeah, he had no idea who he was. And he's just thinking some old dude walking down the street, and he asked him how he wants to be remembered. He's like,

I don't think about that. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. It was an interesting little slice of life of Willem Dafoe. My friend Chelsea has what I would term as an unnatural and unhealthy crush on Willem Dafoe. Oh, really? She thinks he's the hottest guy on the planet. Well, that is a little weird. I mean, remember, he's played evil characters like...

goblin without makeup, really. God bless her. But, you know, we all have our things. But for her, Willem Dafoe is by far the most gorgeous man that's ever lived. Listen, there are some people that probably think Steve Buscemi's really hot. Yeah, there you go. Willem Dafoe. A unique look about them. Yeah, Willem Dafoe finds Steve Buscemi hot.

He's terrific, though, and he's in Nosferatu. I mean, he's such a great actor. Actually, if you guys, I don't know if anybody else has seen the Beetlejuice sequel, but he's great in that. So the Oscars will stream live on ABC and Hulu March 2nd and it's hosted by Conan O'Brien. All right, so the next Will Smith movie that Will Smith turns into a franchise...

Could start with a sequel to his 2008 superhero film, Hancock. I think this is a good idea. I liked the movie Hancock. It had its faults, but I thought it was a great concept. The one issue was just in balance that you had this...

this sort of Titan story that comes in at the end when you've had sort of an acerbic, comedic look at the realm of superheroes. But I thought there was something there. I liked it. So it's not the most notable film in his past, but a quick recap if you haven't seen it. It revolves around this character, Hancock, played by Smith, who's...

an amnesiac, alcoholic, reckless superhero trying to remember his past. And it seems that nearly 20 years later, that's the sequel that he wants to make. But during a surprise appearance on a stream on Twitch, he told fans that he's been bouncing it around in his mind. He said there's...

There's a really cool Hancock 2 idea. I'm going to give you one little piece. He said Zendaya is being approached for a role in that. Not only Smith, but director Peter Berg and original co-stars Charlize Theron, Jason Bateman, and Eddie Marsden have all said that at some point over the years, they would like to do a sequel. So stop and think about the genetic connection with stuff like The Boys.

Right? Yep. He's kind of that kind of hero, you know? Yeah, yeah. I like the idea.

Let me see here. A couple other quick things. Oh, speaking of superheroes, with Daredevil born again, bringing back Charlie Cox's Matt Murdock, Marvel Studios' Brad Winderbaum gave an update on the rest of the Defenders. In a new interview with Entertainment Weekly, he revealed that Marvel is very much exploring the return of Kristen Ritter's Jessica Jones, Mike Coulter's Luke Cage, and Finn Jones' Iron Fist.

He said, I can't say much, but I'll tell you that it's so exciting to be able to play in that sandbox. Ritter made it clear that she's on board if Marvel makes the call after hearing Winderbaum make similar comments at the D23 Brazil Expo. And she had said, that's really exciting to hear. Isn't that the guy who makes the call?

And so she had said, come on, Brad, let's get going. Let's do it. I'd be ready. I loved Daredevil. Jessica Jones was terrific. Luke Cage, want more of that? Even Iron Fist was wobbly, but still good. The one thing that they didn't do with the Defenders series, there was just a limit, like six episodes, Preston, and that was basically their Avengers coming together story arc, and it was too short. Okay.

So we'll see if they expand on these. So I love this. The long wait is almost over. HBO has announced a premiere date for season two of the TV adaptation of the hit video game series, The Last of Us. Oh, good. So mark your calendars. April 13th, 9 p.m. It'll be Sundays at 9. I'm currently replaying the game. Oh, good for you. The first one. Nice. It is...

The series got what they riffed on. They did a great job riffing on. But the first couple episodes of season one are right out of the video game. Yes. And so well done. Yes. It's one of my favorite series ever. I should go back and watch that. So Sundays at 9 is the current slot held by The White Lotus, which is going to make room for the sci-fi drama series once season three finishes airing. And the episodes will be available to stream on Macs.

At the same time that they air on HBO, HBO's Francesca Orsi revealed recently that it's likely the series will span four seasons, which would suggest, Steve, that only a fraction of the second game will be addressed in season two of the series. And I know people were worried about that. They did not like the second game. I didn't either. The first one is so good. And it was a victim of its own...

out-of-the-box success. So that's good news. That is good news. They'll expand way beyond that. And Pedro Pascal is so good in that. Terrific. Terrific. I forgot the actress's name. Bella Ramsey. She is, oh my God, she is so good. I loved her in Game of Thrones. She's phenomenal in this. I was thinking of the episode where they go to the town that's been snowbound. Yes. And they discover how they're existing. The people there. Holy hell. Yeah. You didn't expect that. All right. And then one last thing.

Most of us had presumed that ABC's 1980s TGIF lineup was named that because it aired on Friday nights and the acronym stood for Thank God It's Friday. But get ready to have your mind blown because that's not what TGIF meant at all. TV producer and creative mind behind the ABC TGIF concept, Jim Janicek,

visited the Pod Meets World podcast and revealed the true meaning of the acronym. After the network decided to go with the concept, Janicki had said, Janicek, I'm sorry, said that it was Bob Iger who came up with the true meaning of the acronym. He said, Bob, I believe, came up with

Thank goodness it's funny. I thought so. To avoid any conflict with the restaurant. TGIF Fridays. So that was officially what that stood for. But everyone thought it was, thank God. Yeah, they got a Friday, of course. All right, here we go with the clips. The Z-Suite...

Touches on generational differences found in the workforce between C-suite executives and Gen Z employees. And in this clip, Nico Santos states what he admires about the younger generation. I mean, they are not afraid to say no or ask for what they need. We were talking about their confidence. They're like really admirable. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is C-Suite, does that mean like the CEO and CFO and does it stand for Chief? I assume. The Chief Suites, I guess. I assume, yeah. All right, well, a new episode of the Z-Suite streams today on 2B. Here's our next clip.

Love Hurts is a fresh new take within the martial arts action film genre. And here, Keihei Kwan explains why it was important for him to take on his own stunts. I grew up watching those incredible movies from Jackie Chan and Sammo Hung. And there's something really special when you see it's the actor that's up there doing. There's so much more at stake. So I trained with the guys for three months to get myself physically ready.

Love Hurts is in theaters now, by the way. Do you know he choreographed the fight sequences or at least was partially responsible for the fight sequences in The Matrix? That's amazing. Yeah. So he's, I mean, he's been working as a fight choreographer for years. He just left as a star, but now he's back with that. I love that guy. Excellent. By the way, I want to point this out. We're doubling back to the Willem Dafoe short conversation. Yes. There's a text that says here, we played Mary Kill F.

And Willem Dafoe got effed way more than I thought. Wow. I'm going to have to let Chelsea know. Yeah, please do. She's not alone. She's not alone. She's got competition. All right. Let's take a break. We have a couple of guests on the show this morning. Wrestler Drew Gulak is stopping in. He's always a great conversation. Catchpoint Professional Wrestling Training is happening. And we'll find out more details from him about that. And we also have composer. We were talking about superheroes for a bit there.

composer Laura Cartman. She has done several scores for MCU films and she is the person behind Captain America, Brave New World, the music that you hear in theaters now. So we will talk to her. She's great. We've had her on many times. And we'll chat in the 9 o'clock hour. We'll take a quick break and come back up. Sun is shining. It's a beautiful day. We'll be right back.

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Thank you very much, Kath. So that story about the plane crash in Toronto flipped upside down. Everybody lived, 76 passengers, four crew members. Unbelievable. Yeah, I was stunned to hear that everyone survived. Yeah, I mean, especially when that caught on fire. It flipped upside down. The wing ripped off, all that stuff. And everybody lives. Unbelievable.

But this is interesting. Delta has now assured passengers that they are going to receive a cash payment as a gesture of goodwill. Each person who was flying is going to get $30,000. All 76 passengers...

If they all agree to the cash, Delta is going to fork out $2.3 million for that. If I could survive a plane roll like that, I'd take $30,000. Hell yes. I was thinking the same thing, Steve. You've already won. You survived a rollover plane crash. Because the online response is mixed, as you would imagine. Some people are like, $30,000? Hell yes. And others are like, no, no, no, no. I want the big bucks.

But you survived a plane crash. You lived to tell the tale. Right. And now 30 grand? Sure. I would go, thank you very much. Yeah. Yeah. I'm right in that pocket. I know people, yes, you're right. People are saying millions. It should be. But no. Hey, cool story. Totally. You got to sit upside down in a cabin. You know, you always see that. Yeah. It's like in the movie Flight when he barrel rolls the plane. Yeah. Yeah.

I think I'd be like, I can never get on a plane again, so you have to pay for all of my travel. Understood. I don't think I could ever get on another plane. If I was on a plane that rolled

When it was landing, I'd be done. I would almost take the... Maybe. Now, Kathy, I haven't gone through that trauma, so I don't know. But I would think that maybe it would be almost like the World According to Garp. Pre-disaster. Yes. The plane flies in, hits the house that they're looking at to buy, and he's like, we'll take it. They're like, what are you talking about? He's like...

This is astronomical. This will never happen again. This is the perfect place to live. There's a part of me that agrees with that. Yes, it's like, well, I got mine out of the way and I survived. Well, let me ask then. Would you take $30,000 or would you take flights for the rest of your life for free? Well, flights for the rest of my life for free, I would go well past $30,000 if I had that offer. Yeah.

Yeah, I think I would. I would do flights for the rest of my life. Well, I don't know if I could get back on a damn plane. I don't know. Right. You walk in, touch the ceiling and say peanut butter. That keeps everything safe. Uh, so interesting, Steve, you mentioned that, you know, they were upside down and there's video footage. There were a couple of people who had, uh,

whipped out their phones. Yes! Probably not a good idea, but they did anyway, and the footage is amazing. But yes, the seats are on the ceiling, is the way it appears, and people are that way. And we were wondering amongst ourselves as to what that sensation would be like. Not necessarily being in an aircraft, but maybe...

A rollover in a car. Yeah. Or something along those lines where you end up upside down. Amusement park rides. Yeah. Or if you're stuck. If you're stuck. Yeah. Something along those lines. I didn't know if anybody listening has been in a rollover before and wanted to share a story of what that's like. 215-263-WMMR.

Yeah, and like just getting down from there. I mean, because they were seat belted, likely, right? Yeah, so what I'm guessing is that to that point, Kathy, so even in a car, if you have your seat belt on...

the weight is coming down on the buckle. Right. Like opening it, I think would be... So you'd have to sort of push the person up a little bit. Right. I think, right? Well, yeah. And also, since you have resistance against it, sometimes they won't unlatch. Right. You know what I mean? If there's a resistance against it. Make sure that you push up and get a little bit of play in the lock. But I mean, but you're...

Yes, and then you'd go crashing down to the... And that's the thing, Kathy. You survived a plane crash. You're hanging there upside down, and now you unbuckle your belt, land on your head, and die from a broken neck. Here's what you do. Take the magazine out of the seat.

drop it down and then land on the magazine oh that's right i thought you're gonna say wrap it around your neck uh as a brace all right in case you fall i have in my car um uh one of those multi tools yes uh a window breaker a seat cutter a seat belt cutter and stuff like that uh which i hope to never have to use is it in the car proper in the trunk no no it's in my uh it's in my uh

center console, whatever you call that thing. Right. And so it's right there if I do need it. But yeah, I thought about that. If you are hanging upside down, you have to cut that belt to get out. Yeah. I would think. Yeah. You know, but I don't know. In a car, you're not falling all that much. In the cabin of a plane. It's a higher ceiling. It's a higher ceiling. However, you have to. For sure, because you can stand all the way up in it. Yeah. Well, depending on what kind of car. I mean, if you're an SUV, you know. But that's still not going to be. No, it's not. As. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah. Yeah.

Think of how far you have to reach up to adjust your light or whatever or your airflow above you. I'm trying to think if I would try and brace myself first with my arm, could I reach that? You'd probably do a handstand. Yeah, I'd probably do a handstand. Yeah, most likely. What a way to end. Show off. The Russian judge gave you nine. Wow. So we do have some texts coming in of people who have been in rollovers before and our phone lines are lighting up. So we'll get a chance to chat with some people who have...

Who've had this as well. Somebody had texted in and said, well, if you get the $30,000 payout, you won't be able to sue them down the road. That's going to be part of the thing. But I mean, if you're happy with 30 grand, why would you want to sue them down the road? There's a bizarre part of me that is fascinated by things inverted and what would it look like. Do you like it on rides, Steve? Yes. Okay, because I like it to a point.

Well, you're under constant movement. You like it. Yes, that's a really good way of putting it. When it lasts too long, I'm like, all right, I've had enough of this. When we did the Harry Potter motorcycle ride, there's no inversion in that. But to me, that's a fantastic ride. And I've done the super duper looper and plenty of rides that flip over or whatever, roller coasters.

I don't know. I'd rather have something that's thrilling without a loop on it. The Velociraptor had a lengthy upside down part to it. It was so cool. By the way, if you're not a fan, it's not going to happen. You're not going to fly out, but they do their damn just to make you think you are. I want to go to some calls. I have Virginia who is in an accident. Hi, Virginia. Good morning.

Good morning. All right, so you were in a rollover? Yeah, I was. My husband and I were driving home from Atlantic City. It was my birthday weekend. And I was laying back in the passenger seat. I was sleeping. It was about 10 in the morning, 11 in the morning. And he was driving, and he fell asleep. Oh.

And the car ended up hitting the rumble strips, blowing out the tires. The car ended up going backwards. He thinks maybe he hit the gas instead of the brakes. He doesn't know what he did. Okay. But we went backwards. And when we went off the road, we kind of like gathered up a lot of grass and debris. Yeah. Came to the base of a tree and it launched the car into the air about 10 feet.

My side of the car hit the tree. Oh, my gosh. And we landed on the roof between two trees right next to a creek. So you were upside down in the car between two trees next to a creek.

Correct. Wow. Hanging from our seatbelts. We looked over at each other. He said, are you all right? I said, I'm all right. I said, are you okay? He goes, yep. And then with that, a bunch of people came, broke the windows and drug us out. But when they let our seatbelts go, we hit the windshield. We fell onto the windshield. Yeah. Yeah. So when you went and when you under the seatbelts, you guys felt was it was a day or night out?

It was day. It was like 10 o'clock in the morning. Okay. And when they undid the seatbelts, did they just reach in and hit the button? Did you guys undo it yourselves or did the people that helped you out get you out of the seatbelts? I think the people that did it, I think the people that got us out did it. I was kind of in shock. I'm sure. So what they would have to do if it's, you know, depending on the car, they would have to have reached across you.

Because you unhook on the side. Maybe we did, or maybe my husband did it. I don't even know. But when I hit the windshield, that's when I got cut on my face because I hit the broken windshield. Other than that, nobody could believe it. It's astonishing. So when you're there and you're hanging upside down, I don't know if you're going to remember or not, could you breathe because the belt is right across your abdomen? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. We were breathing fine. All right. We looked over at each other and we were talking. She was like, you're right. I said, I'm right. So when you Virginia, can you still see that in your mind looking over and seeing your husband upside down?

Oh, absolutely. Like it happened yesterday. Wow, man, that's incredible. And did he ask you if you finished your fries? I mean, that's that's crazy. All the stuff in the car that was just a quick question. All the stuff was in the car between the seats. Did you have a lot of junk that went flying up to the ceiling?

Oh, yeah. All the CDs, everything. Wow. Okay. Wow. Crazy. All right. Thank you for sharing, Virginia. Glad you guys were okay. Yeah. We appreciate it. When I took the media flight with the Blue Angels... Yeah, right. I remember, obviously, we were inverted several times. And when we just... Initially, he just turned the plane upside down. Uh-huh.

you look up in the canopy above you and there was just like dust and dirt. Oh, really? Because it had all come from the floor. Even in a vehicle you assume is cleaned constantly. It was clean, but there's going to be some debris. By the way, quick side story to share with you that I learned at the parade.

A guy came to me who's very close personal friends with David Akers. Oh, yeah. Former kicker for the Eagles. And he goes, yeah. He goes, my buddy's David Akers. He goes, he knows you really well. And I go, why? Yeah.

It's not what you think, Steve. Oh. Years ago, when you would search my name or David Aker's name on Google, a picture of me would come up or a picture of him would come up. We never did figure that out. It wasn't that? I asked him if it was that. He's like, no, it's not that. He goes, when you flew with the Blue Angels, you took his spot. Oh.

And he has never forgiven you for it. How do we know this? So he's close friends and it was the same year, I guess, I talked about it on here. And they only give them, like, they don't just hand them out. Like, there's only a... Right, but why would you have, like, how did that... We both submitted at the same time. Right. Got it. You have to get a checkup. Yeah, you have to get a full-on physical done. You have to write a letter. You have to tell them why you want to do it.

And apparently I took his spot. He ended up going up with the Thunderbirds like the next year or something like that. All right.

And I, so I'm like, do me a favor. Let me make a video. And you sent it to David. And I was like, hey, man, I'm sorry. I didn't, you know, I had a great time. I'm not sorry, that sorry about it or something like that. I guess I wrote a better essay. And so, and I think I did. I think that's what did it. And he, before we were done at the parade, he came back and he got a response from David. And he said, like, ha, ha, ha. And then he wrote, what?

What a jackass or something like that about me. I'm like, I think I was being a jackass. All right. So anyway, side story. I forgot to share that with you guys. All right. Let me go to some other people who have who have been in a rollover, you know, with this plane crash in Toronto. I'm going to go to Harry. Hi, Harry. Good morning. Hey, sorry to bother you guys at work. Sorry, man. So what happened to you?

Oh, God.

Jesus. Okay.

We were talking about people who are like stuck, hung upside down. Did anybody stay buckled in and was upside down and had to be taken out?

Yeah, the car, when it finally stopped, was on its side in the other lane to travel. And there's pictures on the internet of people pulling my daughters out of the car. Wow. Unbuckling them and pulling my baby out of the car, my oldest and her friend. Literally, there's pictures of people pulling them out the side of the window. Harry, I don't know if you know this or not, but it's my feeling that if you are even to your side and all that weight is pulling on the belt, you would have to at least...

picked a person up a little bit to unhook the lock, to unhook the belt. Any perception if that was the case, or are you aware of that? The gentleman that got my daughter out of the car, he was a military guy. He had a knife on him, and he said he just cut the belt. He just cut through. I guess that's what they recommend. Preston, the device you have in your vehicle has a blade for cutting the belt? Yep. Okay. Yep. Yep. It's got a...

I'm sorry. He just cut the belt and pulled him out. I mean, my 10-month-old was the one with the least injuries. She had seatbelt marks and a cut on her pinky, and that's it. Wow. That's amazing. Miraculous. Thanks, Eric. Oh, go ahead. Just a quick question. Was your wife wearing a seatbelt? No. If she was, she would have been killed. Oh.

Oh, wow. Usually not the case. Yeah. Usually the other way around. All right. Yeah, it's usually the other way. She's 8% of people that go through what she did. Wow. All right. Thanks, Harry. Appreciate it, bud. They actually told my cousin the same thing. My cousin flipped his car. He had taken his seatbelt off. He went through a toll booth and it was at the time where you still paid toll collectors. Right, right. He's going down the shore. And so he...

undid his seatbelt to get his money, pay, whatever, and hadn't put it back on. He had just gone through, started to gain some speed. He doesn't remember what happened. There was a truck coming, so somehow the truck was involved. He drove off of the roadway, flipped his car, and they told him, and I don't know why, but they told him, had you had your seatbelt on, you wouldn't have survived. Wow. They say, contrary to what we're told, it's better to drive drunk. Well,

No, stop. That's not what I'm saying. I just think that there are, I guess, some instances where that happens. Why? Who knows? You have to drive fast when you drive fast. You have to get off the road faster so you're not out there for as long. Don't drive on the roads. Drive through the...

Is that some justification you've heard before? If I'm drunk, I'm going to drive fast. I got to get home faster. Because you don't want to be on the road in that condition. Yes, and make people unsafe. I'm trying to help. It's just logical, Preston. All right, hang on. I want to go to Colin, who has a story about Army training. Hi, Colin. Good morning.

Hi, Grandma. Hi, Grandma. What's up, Colin? Hey, so Army trucks are inherently top-heavy due to all the armor and how they stand. So in basic training, all soldiers go through a trainer. It's called HEAT, H-E-A-T, and it stands for some acronym. No one knows. And it is a Humvee with no wheels and

And there's like a pencil on the front and on the back, and they spin you. Oh. And they teach you what you're supposed to do with rollovers. Because Army trucks have gunners up that are standing outside, and the dangerous thing is they get flown and then get crushed by the truck.

So you're trained to pull them down and then you have to figure out how to get you and your guys out of the truck. Undo seatbelts. Let me ask you to that point. Is the protocol to actually undo the seatbelt or just cut the belt itself? So their seatbelts are different than normal car seatbelts. So you can flick them off. Okay. But.

But when you do, there's no, like, in your car, there's headliners, there's stuff that is soft and accommodating to you when you're driving. There is more things inside of an Army Home V or a Striker or an MRAP that are out to kill you. So everything is sharp in there. Yeah. What's inside that's going to hurt you as well. Wow. We're looking at video footage of this simulator. I want to try this.

I want to see what that sensation feels like, being upside down. I'll set something up with you. Yeah, maybe. Well, so, and when you're flipped, do you remember some of the other protocol? Was there anything you found interesting about this or the experience or what you were surprised to learn? So, I mean, we have to wear our helmets. They're called Kevlar's or ACH's inside a Humvee, and the kids don't want to wear them driving. They think it's stupid. But when you roll it,

Your head is very susceptible to getting injured from the sharp corners inside. And the biggest, the really, like, one of the take-home things, at least just for the military, is you have to pull your gunner down. If you know you're going to be rolling, you need to pull your gunner down so that they don't get flung out. That's like a split-second decision, Colin, I would think. Yeah.

Yeah, so you have two guys that sit in the back, and that's their job during a rollover. Wow. Pull that gunner down, because they should be wearing harnesses that strap them in, but sometimes that could fail. God bless you guys, man. To be able to do that, and think you can do that, and all that stuff you had at your age.

that had to be trained for yeah all right thanks colin appreciate it man there was that uh the scene in an officer and a gentleman steve where they go in the pool yeah and the thing flips upside down supposed to simulate a water crash right and then upside down they tell them look for the bubbles because you don't know which way is up the bubbles will show you yeah you're completely disoriented at that point do you ever see the navy seal they had a series on a and he was the navy seal training oh my god the crap they put them through yeah uh let me

Let me go to, hang on a second. Who's been on hold longest? Four? Casey? I was saying seven. Seven? All right. Hang on. Let me go to him. It's Mike. Hey, Mike. Good morning. Morning. You guys rock. Appreciate it, Mike. What's up, bud? So back in the day, a friend of mine was a pilot, had a 1954 Taylor Craft. He asked me to go for a ride. Let's go for a flight. Cruise around the county for a while. So we went for a ride.

And it's a two-seater, side-by-side. And we went to a friend of his house that lived out on a farm. This was out in Illinois. So he's like, yeah, let's stop and see my friend. And the guy had a strip to land on, grass strip. So it had just been coming out of winter, so we weren't sure how the ground was going to be. So he did a touch-and-go, test how solid the ground was to land on.

So, did his touch and go, went around, asked me what I thought, and I'm like, you're in charge. You do what you want to do. So, he came into land, and he hit a wet spot, and the plane instantly stopped in the mud, nosed over, tail up, over end, upside down. We're hanging in this plane upside down, and the fuel tank is right in front of you. Oh, man.

So you can see the fuel dripping out of the fuel cap. Yeah. And we were fine. It was just the sudden, oh, my God, we're upside down in an airplane. Yeah. He's like, quick, get out. So you just unlatch the belt, kick the door open, and we got out. And we're looking at his plane, and the plane was actually fine. But it was upside down in this guy's field. Yeah. Mike, and one of the things we're curious about is when you let that belt go. Yeah.

Do you land on your head or did you brace yourself? I put my hands up. Yeah. Because it's kind of a small space. Yeah. Smaller than a car. So I did put a hand up just to...

Kind of stopped landing on my head. Right. Unplugged the belt, but you still got all your body weight. Yeah. It was sunken down on you. Then you got to roll around. Yeah, you're in an awkward position. Yeah. And it was, I mean, we were out in just a couple of seconds, but. But you said you saw fuel dripping. You know, one little spark could have been a big issue. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's wild. That's high-octane fuel that's coming out of there. So you flipped a plane in a field. A lot of other people can walk away from a story like that. Yeah, that's a good one, Mike. It gets funnier because we walked up to the guy's house, and he was a county cop, the guy I was flying with, and his friend was too. So we walked up to the guy's house, knocked on the door. The guy came to the door, and he's like, hey, how are you doing? He's like, where's your squad car at? Oh, we flew in. He's

He's like, well, where's your plane? It's out there. And if you look hard enough, all you saw was two tires up in the air. Oh,

Without breaking a sweat, the guy goes, Don, it's upside down. I started cracking up. That's great. I love it. Thanks, Mike. I appreciate it. Going back to the GARP, when the plane crashes and lands in the house, the pilot gets out and he steps out. He's like, are you okay? He's like, yeah, I'm okay. Can I use

Can I use your phone? Yeah, sure. It's up there. Do you know what I was thinking? In the movie The Flash, Batman has a plane where the center, the interior of the fuselage stays stationary. I don't even know if there's an application for that. I couldn't figure out why he needed that.

To make it look cool. I guess so. And it does look really cool. I guess you can bang, but you never have to. You're always...

Facing the same way? Yeah, you're not as disoriented? Well, it's funny because if you fly drones, you can have them in banking mode because a drone with the gimbal on it will always stay level no matter even if you're flying. But you can set it to bank so that the video will bank along with it. Yeah. Steve, I saw a breakdown on physics in movies one time and stuff that would actually kill you. And one of the things was

if you were ever in Iron Man or like in that catch in America suit. What it would do to your internal organs to launch like that and then to land the way that the superheroes land and to launch the way that they do, your organs would end up in your feet. You'd be dead so fast. There's a little bit you have to suspend.

in Displey because if you were to fall from a thousand feet up, free fall and land on the ground, just because you're surrounded in metal is not going to save your organs. Your brain from rocketing through your nose. In the Avengers, when he cascades down the building, falling from the stratosphere and his mask pops off, it's about an inch and a half away

But there's no foam. There's nothing in there. He's rattling around like a maraca. Exactly. All right. I wanted to go. Yeah, line four has been on hold for a while. Let me go to Alex. Hi, Alex. Morning. Good morning. What's up, bud?

Hey, so I'm an epileptic. I'm still able to drive. I have a deal with my wife where when I leave work, I talk to her on 95 for a little bit. And, you know, hey, I'm feeling all right. OK, I'll see you in about 45 minutes on my way. I'm on 95 one night heading south.

And I'm talking to my wife. And I say, all right, let me get off the phone. I'll hit you up in a little bit. I'll text you when I'm close. So I'm in the left-hand lane, probably doing about 80. And next thing I know, I wake up in an ambulance. So...

Long story short, I drifted. I had a seizure. I drifted from the left-hand lane going into the right-hand lane, flipped the guardrail, and I was right near the Betsy Ross Bridge off-ramp. Okay. So flipped the guardrail, landed in a tree upside down on Aramingo Avenue. Your car was upside down in a tree. How far up were you?

The top of the tree. They said I was basically almost parallel to 95. Wow. Very top of the tree. They took me to Aria Tarsdale and, um,

You know, a few minutes being in the ambulance, like I was I was OK and I was able to talk. And, you know, they explained what happened, what my car looked like. And I had to get cut out with the jaws of life. And I'm telling you, the question here, Alex, when they cut you out of the jaws of life, your car was still stuck in the tree.

Yeah. That's an insane rescue. How do you pull that off? I'm still here talking to you guys. Oh, my God. That's nuts. What year was this, Alex? This was 2021. There's got to be pictures of this somewhere. Just a couple years ago.

That's crazy. You're up that high. I know exactly what you're talking about. And so they got you out. Were there any injuries you sustained or how did you fare? Yeah, I ended up with two black eyes, a couple of broken ribs. They said luckily I was alive because actually when you have the seizure, your body goes completely limp. Yeah. So no.

normally when you know you're going to get into a car crash, your body tensions up. So, you know, everything in my body was just kind of like flip-flimming around, but I was, you know, in my seatbelt, so not crazy injuries, but enough to where, you know, I wasn't too good for a while, but mostly just because of the seizure. It just kind of feels like when you come out of it, it kind of feels like you went like 10

10 rounds with Mike Tyson. After you have a seizure, is there an amount of time where you can't drive anymore for six months or so? Yeah, there is. If you have a seizure while you're driving...

You obviously go to the hospital and the doctor that is on call at the time has to contact PennDOT or whatever state you live in. Right. And have your driver's license medically suspended for six months. Right. Now, what if you promise to get drunk? Will they let you drive again? No. So six months is what they. Well, just one second. Six months is the time frame.

Yeah, as long as you don't have another reported seizure within those six months. Right, right. Wow, that's a crazy story, Alex. I'm going to look for pictures of that because that's insane. I need to see that. Well, good on you, dude. You dodged a bullet. Be safe, man. I did. Have a great one, guys. Appreciate it, man. Wow.

That's just crazy. That's crazy. There's time for one more. Let me go to Lisa. Hi, Lisa. Good morning. Gadzooks. Gadzooks. Lisa. All right. So we were talking about rollovers and being suspended upside down. This happened to you? Yes.

Yes. So when I was younger, I probably wasn't living the ideal life. Me and my girlfriend decided to go into Philly one night and we were right around the bar tram exit right before you go over the bridge to get in there. And a drunk driver had cut us off.

And it was raining out. So the car kind of just started spinning at first. But then it gave way and it started to flip. We flipped about two or three times. And the whole time, every time I looked up, we're closer and closer to the side wall of the bridge. We're right over the water at this point. Oh, my God.

So I am like, it felt like it was 10 minutes and we're flipping, we're in our seatbelts. We ended up landing on the roof. That Jersey wall saved us. That was our last flip. It kind of flipped us backwards. And we landed upside down. It, the crash was so hard that it busted all the windows out and everything. And we're just hanging there. And,

We kind of chuckled for a second because we couldn't believe what just happened. Yeah, yeah. Nervous laughter. Yeah. Oh, it was crazy. And so we both kind of undid our seatbelt at the same time. I can't believe we didn't break our necks doing that. And then I climbed out the windows, which still had glass shut. We were in the middle of 95. Cars were still coming, but we were out of it. And once we got out, luckily, somebody had pulled over and got us out of the road and

And as soon as I got to the side of the road, I passed out. I remember waking up at the Crozier Trauma Center. Shock. Adrenaline dump. Right. So let me ask you, were you wearing seatbelts? Yes. Okay. And that's how we landed. So we landed hanging upside down. To your point, Lisa, I hydroplaned, Kathy, you'll know, Seaford Oyster Bay Expressway in Long Island. And I hit a patch press and it was night. Didn't see it was slick. Okay.

And my car went up and it was just about on two wheels. It felt like it was a half hour. I was up there. I mean, because you can't believe what's happening. Lisa, when you guys were hanging upside down, did you get yourselves out or did somebody have to come in and cut you guys out? We did get ourselves out. We actually kind of did a one, two, three and and push.

pushed him at the same time. Luckily, I'm surprised we didn't hurt ourselves doing that. Yeah, that's what we were curious about. You go through this unbelievable scenario where you should have died and then you're hanging there upside down and you let your seatbelt go and bang, you hit your head and caused damage. And everything was out of the car. So everything had flown out of the car. Sure. Wow. Glass everywhere. That's crazy.

That's crazy. It was something else. I'll never forget it. Lisa, two things. You said the Jersey Wall saved you. I think it's a great name for a band or a song or an album. Jersey Wall. Right. And then second of all, what was my second of all question? You want to produce that album? No, I don't want to produce that album. Damn it. Oh, man. Yeah, right?

And I'm going to think of it as soon as we hang up with you. Just stay on the line. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I remember. So you potentially could have gone over the side of the bridge into the water and just to see if Kathy's theory is true or not. Yeah. On your way down, do you think you would have had enough time to roll your window down so that water could come in and you would be able to open the doors?

It definitely felt like there would have been enough time. There you go, Kathy. Like I said, it felt like forever. I just remember the flashes of that wall getting closer and closer. Wow. Like, what emotion? That's a level of horrifying fear to have to go over a bridge. Here, go over the bridge, flip over the bridge, in your car, in the dark.

You know, I don't know. I don't know what I had a heart attack. Basically. Hi, Lisa. Thank you. Appreciate it. Wow. Those are some those are some outrageous stories. We have a bunch of others that we're not going to be able to get to. I apologize. Time wise, we're not going to be able to dive in. But that is a that's something you'll never forget or not remember. You know, like if you have some kind of a traumatic your brain shuts it off. And did anyone we see?

I just spoke to get $30,000 for what they went through. Not that I know of. I don't know. So put it in perspective. So anyhow, but thank you for the calls. We do appreciate that. We have to take a break, but not before we give something away because we have here in our studio this morning, clusters, handcrafted popcorn. Yeah.

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It goes on and on. I saw a pickle one. Yeah, just like a pickle. Yeah. Buffalo and blue, garlic parmesan. Ooh. Truffle parmesan and rosemary. Dear Lord. That's all great stuff. Caller number 20. We'll set you up with that. 215-263-WMMR. We'll come back in a moment and we'll get some bizarre file stories. So hang out for a moment.

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Thanks, Catherine. Real quick text message I want to read. It says, Gadzooks, guys, I don't know who answered the phone a few minutes ago, but what a nice young man. Preston couldn't take my call before the break. He came back and thanked me for calling, and that was refreshing to hear. Have a nice flight, and happy birthday, Ann Gorski. So thank you. That is Sam.

Yeah. Uh, Sam answering our phones, a very pleasant young man. He does a lot around here. So we thank him, uh, for being a part of our program. Uh, I want to mention as well, we'll do some more giveaways in a little while from clusters, handcrafted popcorn. Casey went and got me some of the flavor called just like a pickle. It's outstanding. But do they know that you are the pickle King? I don't know if they know that, but, um,

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Wow.

an air cannon to blast the contraband items over the prison fences and walls. So essentially like a big t-shirt. It's kind of ingenious. Yeah, sure. I was horrified to think we're talking about the butt. Further investigation revealed that the men planned to use commercially produced compressed air cannon to launch the items some 350 feet into the prison's population. I was thinking about you, Casey, because of the

parade, you were shooting the t-shirt cannon. Yeah, and you definitely have to pack that stuff tightly. I wonder, so I don't know who purchased the t-shirt cannon. There's one standard model. Are there in fact more powerful t-shirt cannons? Oh yeah. The smuggling operation was uncovered by a sharp-eyed deputy who noticed some strange behavior going on near the prison walls.

The deputy intercepted the two men. I would think that even if it was a prison guard, they'd be like going, yeah, I want meth too. The deputy intercepted the two men and arrests were made. 18-year-old Jose Munoz and 19-year-old Angel Gutierrez, both of Colorado, were arrested and charged with attempting to introduce contraband into a penal institution.

Penal. Can't help it. A Louisiana woman has been arrested on a second-degree murder charge after authorities say she fatally shot her boyfriend over an argument that had to do with breakfast. Deputies responded Sunday morning to a home...

Found 23-year-old Joshua Jones unresponsive with a gunshot wound to the chest. He was pronounced dead at the scene. Investigators said... Let go of my ego! Investigators said Tamira Hubbard called 911 and admitted to shooting Jones following a dispute about the food that had been prepared for breakfast and also personal finances.

Yeah, that too. Hummer was arrested at the scene and booked into the parish jail, and she is being held on a million-dollar bond. There are no egos, and you've been embezzling me. The investigation is ongoing. We've talked about it before, but fights, and I mean like really nasty fights...

can happen over food. Let me ask you, of the meals, the three meals of the standard meals of the day, which one do you think is more likely to produce? Over the years that you were reporting in the Bizarre File about battles over food, they seem to occur most when? I'd say in

Afternoon, man. I'm trying to think of all the ones that I've squabbled. So I've gotten in over food. It hasn't been over breakfast. Right. Well, I mean, well, pickle loaf was pretty late in the evening. Yeah, that was late night. Yeah. So that's that's a good one, too. When is evening? Alcohol. When's alcohol? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I just don't see breakfast as being a meal to fight over. Mimosas are pleasant. Yeah. Yeah. If you've had a little pop or two prior to dinner, you're going to kill someone over olive oil. Yeah.

In Billings, Montana, speaking of fighting over food, a woman is recovering after her door dash driver attacked her Thursday night. It was a day that star Mason would never forget. Her oldest daughter was in labor, ready to deliver the family's first grandchild. Says, my first grandbaby, it's a big deal for me. And it was a few hours later when Mason's biggest nightmare would unfold. After being awake for nearly 24 hours, she decided to door dash something for dinner. Mason ordered a chicken sandwich, a bag of chips, and a huckleberry drink.

After a few moments of placing that initial order, she added a small side of soup. Because of that, two dashers were assigned to the order. Now, at this time, Mason's husband, Charles, was at a movie with their youngest son. Mason says the first driver took over an hour to deliver that food, with most of the time spent in the Applebee's parking lot, according to the driver's location.

Eventually, the second delivery driver who requested to remain anonymous showed up at the restaurant. Mason received a call from the restaurant saying that because she had not received her order yet, they would remake it. Both drivers arrived at Mason's house around the same time. The first driver's delivery had been tampered with. Mason says she said my entire bag had been ripped. It looked like it had been cut with scissors. I can't tell if he said I opened it to check or if he said I didn't open it.

Because of the delayed delivery, the tampered food, and the fact that the driver ignored Mason's calls while in the Applebee's parking lot, Mason did not want to tip him. A confrontation broke out between this delivery driver and Mason. However, Mason eventually decided to tip both the first and second driver. She told them both to have a good night before closing the door. And that's when the first driver attacked her. She said, he stopped me from shutting the door. And he hit with so much force. The only thing that makes sense to me, how he got me down as hard as I did was...

Jeez.

Before fleeing the scene. That's from the book of Dumb Things to Yell. Mason spent over four hours at the hospital in the emergency room. She was grateful for the second delivery driver, though, as he called the police, got the first driver's license plate number, and helped clean up Mason afterwards. Here, have some soup. Yeah, so I don't know what kind of charges that guy is facing. So, all right, let's do one more story, and then we will wrap it up. This one's really weird.

A 14-year-old Brazilian boy died after he injected himself with butterfly remains. And I'll explain in a moment. Police are investigating if it was part of a twisted online challenge. So Davi Nunes Moriera started to vomit and then developed a limp after mixing a dead butterfly in water and then injecting the liquid into his leg.

Is it supposed to have some sort of trippy attribute? I think so. So the teen told his dad that he hurt himself while playing but then confessed to what really happened after he continued growing sicker and was admitted to the hospital. His dad found the syringe his son had used hidden under his pillow. Davi had ended up succumbing to his injuries. He died. A mysterious death linked to possible toxins in Butterfly.

Wow.

It's exactly stories like this that made me switch to I can't believe it's not butterfly. A butterfly specialist at the director of Sao Paulo University Zoology Museum said toxicity of butterflies to humans has not been studied nearly enough. While the milkweed that monarch butterflies feed on as caterpillars is a poisonous toxin stored in their bodies,

bodies. Authorities have not specified what type of butterfly the teen injected into his body. The incident remains under investigation. Isn't that weird? I've never heard of anything like that. No. You hear like toad licking and all that stuff. Alright, and that is what I have in the bizarre file for you this morning. So, as we're going to take a break, let me give away another one of these. $50 gift card for Cluster's

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Montage Mountain. All right, our next guest is in the studio, and he is ready to teach you a thing or two about the world of professional wrestling. Ladies and gentlemen, Drew Gulick is here. Hello.

Hello everyone, thanks for having me back. Nice to see you. Boy, you're the most friendly professional wrestler. You sound so courteous. I appreciate that. I try to be nice. Until it's time to not be nice. Dalton taught us that. You gotta have a good attitude when you're in the ring and stay really focused. Pain don't hurt. That's Dalton.

When did you shave your head? Yeah. Oh, so I left WWE about a year ago. Okay. And for TV purposes, you want to try to keep a consistent look for the most part. So I'd grown my hair out for a while.

And I'll tell you, like, I was just getting tired of having longer hair for a long time. So as soon as I was free, that's the first thing I did. Really? I cut my hair finally. Yeah, I love the way this feels. I haven't had that for like four years. You're going to go straight, shave down like old Uncle Steve here? Oh, yeah. That's my goal. Yeah. So I did what you did. Full Mr. Clean.

I was thinning, had like a Bruce Willis die hard with a vengeance. That would have been my level of hair loss. And so I just said, let me take it where it's going. And I've never looked back. I love it. You look beautiful. Thank you, man. Yeah, the thing about having a head of hair is there's maintenance involved. Absolutely. And it's a pain in the ass. Yeah, there's maintenance involved. When you're doing stuff on television, like you got, I don't know, there's lights everywhere.

And that shows everything. You got to cover up stuff. By the way, as far as having hair goes in wrestling, hair is an implement. You can use that and grab it. That's totally true. And it can be a hindrance if you have longer hair. Absolutely, yeah. In the fighting world, in high school wrestling and stuff like that was always a thing.

People would, you know, shave their heads just so that they didn't get caught on anything. Or like even with like the girls fighting, like they'll do cornrows or something. Yeah. You know, you see that a lot. That's why Sergeant Ponytail always lost. Yeah. Sergeant Ponytail. Yeah, you would think they would have figured it out. Dude, I know why you're losing. Just change it.

No, but you know, I'd say also... Captain Afro. Captain Afro. Bad, bad. But I was... We were talking to the green... I'm following you on Instagram. You look to be in probably the best shape of your life. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. I don't know what I posted recently as far as like me shirtless or anything. But you're looking pretty formidable. I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah. No, I have...

I have a friend, Jason Cachetta. He runs a personal training company. I met him five or six years ago and just got really serious about longevity in wrestling because wrestling is extremely physical. You're thrown around a lot. You're getting up and down a lot. And then as you get older, all that stuff gets harder and recovery times get shorter. So we've just been working on...

Prepping for the future and training for longevity. Ideally, the look comes with it, with the consistency that you put in. But yeah, it's all been about injury prevention. We're going to talk a little bit in a moment about Catchpoint Professional Wrestling training, but a few other questions before we get to that, because you can sign up with Drew and get some training into how to enter into this world. But speaking of longevity in the business of professional training and sports entertainment and so on,

If you are a superstar and you've got a certain amount of fame and popularity...

even if your physicality is lacking or starting to deteriorate, you can stay in the game for a while because of your popularity, right? Or they can kind of keep you in there. I think it's a case-by-case thing, right? Like people who are very lucky who wrestle at the top of our game, like they reach so many people and connect with so many people. Like your Captain Afro's. Captain Afro, his time.

Unbelievable. It does seem that they're going for longer runs these days. They are. And remaining less ambassadors and more active in the ring. Yeah, I think that's interesting. So when I think about the top wrestlers, The Rock is the one who jumps out immediately. His initial run with WWE when he was at his peak was three years. Wow.

Wow, it seems so much longer. Yeah, I was there for eight years. So in the scale of things, it's not so much...

The time that you necessarily need to put in, but what you do with that time or what you're able to do with that time and how you connect with people. But of course, if you do that, you can come back and use that kind of popularity to go on other things. Some people go into politics. Right. Some people will foray into acting if they want to. Some people stay in the industry as like a trainer or a coach or a producer backstage. Millard Fillmore was a wrestler. Really? Yeah.

I had gone to Monday Night Raw one night and Casey, we'll never forget this because all the lights went off and it went completely dark and there was one person in the ring and when the lights came back on, The Undertaker was standing there. How did you do that? Oh my God.

Oh, my God! But he was one that I was like, okay, he's not moving so well anymore, but they keep him in because people love him, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, he's done a lot. A lot. That's one of the things with long-term and the frequency of wrestling. He had a really long career with WWE, just...

being on the road that long. Yeah. Really just sitting on a plane that much, right? So with Catchpoint, with your philosophy and teaching wrestling and teaching about how to be able to keep a career going on, you know, and we talked about this. It's as comprehensive an approach to this as I've ever heard because you're coming at it from the business end, from the presentation end, from all of that stuff.

What seems to be the pie in the sky thing that a new student comes in believing that's just not the case about the world of wrestling? I think, you know, when you're dealing with younger kids, they see what's on TV and they just want to do it and jump into it. You know, with... Yeah, I guess really with just the younger audience, the less mature audience, my goal with them is to kind of just say, hey, like...

This is a performance art. This is a form of show business. It's very difficult to reach the top, right? But it is possible. I don't want to destroy their dreams, but I want to work with them to help them achieve that as best as possible. You got to be realistic. Absolutely. You got to be realistic. So with them, I say if you're in school, focus on school too, right? If you have a job, you need to have some kind of stability outside of this. It's just like...

I think we touched on this maybe the last time I was in the studio. It's like an independent musician, right, who's just getting started on the road or trying to tour with their band and do smaller venues, which is what we do in wrestling when we work up on the independents. We'll work bingo halls. It's part of the charm, I guess. The parking lots and that kind of stuff. That's not a high-paying situation most of the time.

So you have to kind of balance that. You have to love it enough to know that you're going to be chomping it out. That's something that Corporal Unrealistic never understood. The wrestler. Corporal Unrealistic is feud with Captain Afro back in the day. Legendary. One-sided. But, you know, Corporal Unrealistic just rolled over. No, but that is something, again, I always say it.

and you have to take that approach because you don't want to quash someone's dreams. No. And you want them obviously, and you're going to try to focus them in the right way. Yeah. But there needs to be the awareness of a come to Jesus moment at a certain point. It's the...

It's the people who come in and go like, I'm going to be on TV in six months. And I look at them and I'm like, have you ever been to a gym? Yeah. And I don't mean that to like knock them, but I'm like, I want to teach you how to start to get things in motion. So maybe one day that can become a reality for you. Right. So that maybe at some point your physicality will catch up to your mentality. Right. If you're already going in there like, oh, I'm the next big thing. Yeah. All right. Well, let's...

pump the brace. Right. By the way, you can be Fat Guy wrestler too. Yes. There are Fat Guy wrestlers. There's some great Fat Guy wrestlers. Yeah. Lieutenant Fat Guy. You know. We're going to go through the entire rankings at some point. Brigadier General. LFG. Lieutenant Colonel. Lieutenant Colonel. Why are they all in the military? I don't know. I started with Sergeant Slaughter. Rise up to the ranks. Lieutenant Fat Guy went by LFG.

LFG. LFG. LFG. I love it. Drew, you said... Topical. You were in the WWE for eight years. You left recently. About a year ago. About a year ago in April, my contract expired with them. What are you eating? We did not renew it. Popcorn? It's so good. Isn't it good? It's addictive. It tastes like pickle. It's so good. Yeah, it's really good. Um...

So I did four total contracts with WWE and like made it through all of them. Like some people get released from there and that's never a fun thing, but it's part of the business. What precipitates that? I mean, I assume that you're underperforming. The audience isn't reacting. What are the metrics they use to determine that they're going to say we should part ways?

A lot of times it really has to do with budget reasons. Really? And how many people they can have at a time for whatever they're doing in the situation. We never perceive the WWE as having budgetary issues. Yeah, no, that's why. That's part of the business. They have to keep that and...

Triple H used to say, I only have so many rooms in the hotel. Once a room opens up, we'll get you in there. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. But for me, logistically in my career, where I was and with what the business side of my deal, it just didn't line up with continuing on.

which is fine. I'm surprised. Honestly, if we're being realistic, if 17-year-old Drew Gulak from Northeast High School who just started independent wrestling was here saying, oh, I just did eight years with WWE, to me, that's insane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beyond your goal. Right, and so like...

I am so grateful for the experience and the time that I had there. And I'm ready to move on to do other things. And if something happens where I wind up back there, that's great too. But it has to be the right fit. All right, so you're not done in the show. You could possibly. No, no, no. I mean, I have some events coming up independently, which I love doing. And I did that for years as well. Who do you think... What was your best match that you had in your eight years that you were with WWE? My best match? Yeah, what do you think...

If you were to take your highlight reels. Yeah. So the one that stands out that people will come to me with, I saw you do that match. I had a match with Daniel Bryan here in Philadelphia. One-on-one. We opened a pay-per-view. It must have been three or four years ago at this point. It was against Constable Chaos? Daniel Bryan. Yeah, Constable Chaos, Daniel Bryan. Yeah, one of the most racist guys ever. That's another guy. When he came in here, I was like...

Wow. You're not that big. He's not what you expect, right? Yeah. He's someone who, you know, he was always so dedicated and gifted and talented. And for the majority of like his independent wrestling career, he was always at the top of their cards, right? But he was an undersized guy. So when he went to WWE, no one really expected him to do anything or make it. But he's just that good that he just went right to the top. So are you. I mean, you're of that breed. It's fluctuated throughout the years through WWE. Sure.

the more athletic, the more maneuvers and things that are, as opposed to the lumbering, you know, almost sumo-esque wrestlers of your, you know, you guys are, and in your time, putting on a real athletic display. I think that's a, that's kind of a creative stylistic decision that's happened over time with different waves of people coming in, like in the early 90s.

You had big guys like Yokozuna and Earthquake and these massive Hulk Hogan generation. They were all big people. And that was very much Vince McMahon's creative mentality at the time. Larger than life guys. And then you have the Bret the Hitman hearts and the Shawn Michaels come in a little bit later. So now we're focused more on in-ring technical prowess and larger than life characters. Then you had...

Back to the bigger guys with The Rock and Stone Cold. They were pretty big guys. Triple H, when he came in, bodybuilding backgrounds and stuff like that. Or people got into bodybuilding. Yeah. Batista, you can go through the generations and see where these large wrestlers came in. And then the smaller wrestlers would always kind of serve as the undercard. Where they would help to build up the bigger guys. Or they would just be put, oh, I need a good match here. But not necessarily a top star. Triple H, when he came in, he was...

very much in support of like trying to push the athleticism forward. Oh, that was one of his directives? Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. So you didn't get to fully answer Casey's question. David Bryan, that was your... Daniel Bryan. Daniel Bryan, I'm sorry. That was your favorite match? I don't know. I don't know. It's so hard for me to pick. I loved every single match I had there. I really did. So like for me to go, that was my favorite. You know what? The one that I had that was really fun and like...

Emotionally important and meaningful I got to wrestle against Oney Lorcan Who used to work as Biff Busick On the independent scene And he was someone who I came up with on the independent scene together We had the same tryout We worked the bingo halls and those venues For years We got to wrestle each other one on one for a title at SummerSlam That's amazing That's a huge match In a vacuum that's impossible But we did that And it was a really good match It was fun

Yeah, there's a lot of those moments that have happened. I mean, I could talk all day, honestly. I want to ask, because we all in the radio world have radio dreams. It's been a while since I've had a radio dream. Usually a radio dream is like Whitney Houston is playing for some reason. Or a rock station. Or we're trying to hit these buttons and they're not working. I had one last night. I had one last night.

I could see you guys broadcasting. And I went to the bathroom and I couldn't, how do I get there? And I was freaking the F out. That's a good question. Are there wrestling dreams? There are. There are definitely some wrestling dreams. One that's very common for wrestlers to have is that they forgot their gear. That's their ring attire. So it ranges from like, I just don't have the right outfit to like, I'm naked now. Right? That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, those are like the terrifying wrestling dreams. That's a very common one, actually. Yeah. Do you have any people who are enrolling at Catchpoint who are just interested in... They love wrestling, but they also want to kind of get in shape? Or they want to... You know, for a multitude of other reasons that are not just wrestling-based? If you can come up with a reason, there's someone who's come through. Really? Yes, absolutely. So...

I don't discourage people from being a casual fan, too. I just want to try it out every once in a while. Here's a question. I don't watch wrestling as much as I used to, but is the manager still a big role or no? It can be. How do people get into that? That's another thing. If you add something from a performance side and it lines up creatively, it can work out. A lot of managers happen to be former wrestlers who may be

their strength was in talking, you know, like, Oh, I'm, they'll pair you up with like a big guy who maybe doesn't have the best vocal chops or, or, or performance instincts. And they'll have you, cause you have like good performance instincts as like a veteran or marketing or whatever the reason is, they'll attach you to them. And then you add to the act and then you become the person.

It's almost like a hockey referee, right? Like the guy that is not good enough to be the player but knows the rules, knows how to skate and is out there and finds another path, you know, another career. So there's a lot of referees in wrestling who used to be wrestlers. I'd say the majority of the referees at WWE right now were former wrestlers at some point. Okay. Did you see the movie Iron Fist or Iron Claw? I didn't see Iron Claw. I didn't see it. I know the story and like when I'm ready to cry...

Yeah, it's heartbreak. It's depressing. But they go through, and I forget which one of the Von Erics was not a good poser. He couldn't talk on the mic. He's a great wrestler. And so one of the other brothers had to pick up the mic and kind of take that role because he wasn't the full package. He was a great wrestler, but he didn't have the salesmanship part of it. And to really be successful at some point, you're going to have to pick up a microphone and talk.

I assume that's part of the training as well. I mean, from the jump, we do a six-week fundamentals course for people who are onboarding or who want to get into wrestling from no wrestling background as just an alternative to what other programs are out there. So four days a week, it's an intensive. We have you come in and you train. But at the beginning of every single class, it's promo time. So we'll have prompts, and as we develop you and give you that...

When you're talking in public, guys, it's scary. That's a huge fear for people. So just to get over the nerves, we do the reps with them. And then we just prompt them as we go on. Do you find most people, though, talking about the manager, the classic manager case, which used to be part of the dynamic, I think wrestlers just over the course of years probably got so good at seeing the ones that could do it well that they started to...

move into the ranks and you didn't need that secondary person. Do most people that come, are they at least aware of that and semi-capable of talking to crowds and they have a spiel? Or does anyone come in as a complete introvert and assume they can be a wrestler? There are so many people who come in as introverts. Really? I think the idea of being a wrestling fan, right? If you think about being a niche fan for any kind of

subsect of culture like that, you kind of close off sometimes and you're like, this is what I relate to. Occasionally you'll find other people who relate to the same thing and that's how you grow. Right.

Yeah, go ahead. If you're just tuning in, Drew Gulak, we're speaking to him. He's got Catchpoint Professional Wrestling Training. If you want to get on board with that, you can check out thecatchpoint.com. You guys have an event coming up called the Suplex Slamboree. Yeah. In April, right? So April 12th. Okay. Suplex Vintage Wrestling, which is a store on South Street. Man, if that was around when I was little, I'd be there all the time. They have...

Tons of memorabilia and collectibles. Really? Yeah, have created like kind of a house for those people I was just talking about.

Yeah. Where is it? It's on South Street. South Street. And they just opened one in Orlando. 626 South Street. I'm sorry. Is this the same suplex, like, sneaker place, too? Yeah. Okay. So, same owner. So, he said, let's just go for a wrestling store. Okay. So, there's a block party that's happening Saturday, April 12th, right? Yeah. This is an outdoor kind of festival. They did one last year for WrestleMania, which was in town, and had a massive crowd. And, like, two of my students got to debut their first...

They did the six-week course, and then we got a deal with Suplex to put them in front of that crowd for their very first match ever. Oh, that's so cool. And they knocked it out of the park. Oh, wow. Yeah. So they're doing another one this year, and I got invited to be a part of it. Well, looking at the story, this is some pretty cool stuff. Yeah, it looks like a comic shop for wrestling fans. And they did a great job with it, and they watch pay-per-views there and play games. It makes me wish...

That I kept all my WWF stuff from when I was a kid. I had all those action figures. What was your favorite? Hulk Hogan. Yeah. And it didn't do anything. It literally was just a piece of rubber. It was imagination. Yeah. And I would play with it in the bathtub. And who else did I have, man? Oh.

Macho man? I didn't have macho man. Iron Sheik? Drew, I brought this up last week on the show, but did you ever see the interview with a macho man in Arsenio Hall? Yes. Okay. He's incredible. It's one of the most entertaining interviews I've ever seen in my life. And was he, I mean, I know he's before your time, but did you ever get a chance to meet him before he passed? No. Okay. No, I wish I was around then.

Yeah, he was so, so, so good. I use him all the time as examples in class. We did. We met him one time. I'll tell you this story. He and Gorgeous George, female by the way, a wrestler, had come by the studio. It was in the morning, obviously. We do a morning show. They walked in just like,

They were not in the mood to do the press. They were tired. Randy looked like he was just going to fall asleep. And they did this crazy thing, Drew. They both went into the bathroom by themselves. They came out about three minutes later, and they were all fired up and ready to go. Showtime. What do you think they were? I think they had a heart-to-heart. I think they got in there, and they had a quick conversation. Me and Adam had a heart-to-heart. We came in here. They

They just had to pee. That was it. Oh, and the cocaine probably. Possibly. But, you know, it was a great interview. He was what you wanted him to be. Exactly. Yeah. Hey, I had a question about joining up and taking the courses at Catch Point. Are there minimum physical requirements you guys ask for or do you just do a quick assessment and say, yeah, definitely?

The physical requirement is that you talk to a physician or your personal care physician, you get a physical, and they say that you're good to go for this kind of activity. Anyone who could pass a regular sports physical can do this. So that is a disclaimer that we have right at the top of the FAQ section on the website. And where are you located? Where's the spot where you get the gym? We are located at 28.

Excuse me. 2024 East Westmoreland Street. And that's right in Kensington, right on the outskirts of Kensington. So if you take exit 25 on 95, go straight down. It's there on your left. It's awesome. There was a thing that Casey wanted to do at Camp Out with Drew. Do you remember this? Oh, yeah. And what ended up happening? We just couldn't do it? For some reason or another, I don't remember. We wanted to have a moment. A moment.

spontaneous fight to happen. Was it going to be you? No, no, no, no, no. It would have been like we would be interviewing Drew and then just out from behind the backstage area, some wrestler would come in and give him a suplex or DDT or whatever. You guys were planning a hit on me. Yeah. Okay, great. We're working on it.

That would have been great. You would have been in on it. I mean, this year, Camp Out for Hunger, you know, never say never. Okay. All right. Freedom now, we could do some stuff. Yes. Now that your hair is a little tighter. We did get to do can drop. Hair is battle ready. I loved doing can drop with you a couple years ago. That was awesome. Yeah, the drop quiz. It's cold up there. What a way to wake up. Right? Yeah. Stick you on an amusement park ride. Better than doing coke in the bathroom. Way better. That'll wake you up. How about this? Can drop with coke.

Give it a shot. Get that big rush. We'll have waivers for that. We'll talk to corporate. For the program that you get people signed up for, are there start and end dates? Like with a group? Our ninth graduating class graduates today. We do a free event at the school where friends and family could come. You guys could come watch if you wanted to see these

these guys graduate um all different kinds of people like if you any if you ever had a question they'll get answered there um so they graduate today our next one starts march 3rd so there's a quick turnaround time for that one so hey if you if you're interested in becoming a professional wrestler learning feel free to drop by the school we allow people to observe class and like ask questions that's free i think it's such a cool thing especially if you've flirted with it and it's something that you you know but you don't know the ins and outs and you want to get an idea she said people are there for

a multitude of reasons, whether you want to come out of your shell, whether you want to know how to be a little bit better at presenting things. There's all aspects. We've said it time and time again. Wrestlers come in here, and they're the best wrestlers

entertainers. They're the best public speakers. They're the best with working with their fans. You get a skill set that I think will serve you throughout your life. I agree. Good point. TheCatchPoint.com if you want to get in touch with Drew and this course. TheCatchPoint.com. We'll make sure we have that available on our socials and everything for everybody to check out. Thank you so much. Great to see you, man. Thanks for coming by here. Drew Gulak.

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Now, back with more of the Preston and Steve Show podcast. All right, thank you very much, Kath. We have another guest who we are going to chat with this morning, and we've had the pleasure of speaking to her before, and we're excited to welcome her again. I'm going to play a little bit of music for you. This is a portion of what you will hear if you go and see Captain America Brave New World. Oh, yeah, this little independent film. This little thing that's going on out there. And listen, before we bring on

Our guests, I need to adjust my eyewear. This is for those who are watching us via... Yes! Yes! This morning, please welcome...

I'll never match her awesomeness, but I have to try to. Please welcome Laura Cartman to the show. Hey, Laura, how you doing? It's great to see you all. It's great to see you. Although... You're not seeing well at this moment. These are not prescription, and I can't read my notes of what I was going to ask you. Yeah, that's right. You're going to have to...

For you, it's a prop. For me, it's... Whoa, I only have one pair on. What happened to that? You usually have two. What?

Oh, my God. They must have fallen off. I tell you, at six in the morning, I completely fall apart. I'm going to have someone bring me a second pair of glasses because this is simply unacceptable. We appreciate you getting up. But we were talking earlier about your eyeglass wear, which is phenomenal. And we know you're into documentaries and you've scored a number of great ones. But we're waiting for the documentary on your eyeglass collection, your frames.

Yes, you know, it has become a part of my personality, although now I have to say I feel a little underdressed. I don't know what happened to my second pair. It's because we had to take the dogs out and everything fell apart. But anyway, yes, I think...

There are very careful choices made with my eyewear. And if you've seen Captain America, you'll understand that I think Anthony Mackie's character also is deep into eyewear. It becomes a crucial part. So it's part of the sartorial experience of the film. No, not really. I just love it. I just love it. I just love it. I admit I'm an addict. It's a hobby. It's a bad one.

Is the second pair usually there? They're on my head, but they must have fallen off. But listen, I have these for you. Oh, my gosh. Look at these.

Get out of here. Those are my Captain America glasses. Those are awesome. Those are fantastic. I'll put these on my head. With the two pair, is it usually a double function thing? Like one is for reading, the other is for seeing distances or sunglasses?

Yeah, well, it started out as seeing some woman on a train and thinking, oh, that's cool. And then it moved into like one pair of sunglasses and then one pair of regular glasses. And then, I mean, I don't know. I can't imagine this is actually interesting to anybody. No, I'm all in. I'm listening to every word you say. You're all in? Okay, okay, okay, good. And then it became...

It became like one pair of sunglasses, one pair of regular. And then I started using transition lenses. So that stopped being relevant. And now it's just what it is. Here, I have these two, which I'll show you. Yeah, we got to see. By the way, those were silver and fabulous. These were all the Oscars. Oh, wow. That's even better. Those are bling, big time. Those are bling. I think that's our vibe today. I'll tell you what. You guys, I'm going to do three pairs. Oh, my gosh.

We are honored. We're honored. That's what it is. I love the whole approach to the eyeglass. I have to tell you this. Doing some research on you, I was reading an article, and they described you as, quote,

the current musical voice of the MCU. Whoa. That's a pretty big compliment, and it's accurate at this point. From where you began, from years ago, could you possibly have conceived of the notion that this would be an accolade that would be given to you at this point in your career? Well, no. I mean, there's no possible way, and I, you know, and...

I don't know that I accept it now. I think it's a beautiful compliment. I think that there are so many great composers in the MCU. I know Michael Giacchino is a great friend of this show. And he, of course, you know, he's got he's got Fantastic Four coming out this summer. He's got the you know, he's done a ton of stuff. And Chris Beck, Henry Jackman, Alan Silvestri, I mean, there are lots of it. But

I feel very, very deeply privileged to have worked for Marvel for the past few years and to have had success mostly with, you know, with like Kevin and the directors and the other producers on the show, on the movies that just have dug my music. And are you kidding? It's like a dream come true. I mean, I can't tell you what the feeling is like when you sit in the theater. Yeah.

And you hear, especially the opening of this movie, and you hear the music and you see the thing. And it's huge. And it's on IMAX. And it's Dolby Atmos. And I just think, am I dreaming or is this really my life? And it's gorgeous. Completely get that. I'm a massive cinephile. We all are into film. And for me, it's gorgeous.

When I was a kid, I was buying soundtracks. I told Michael this. Because to me, it was a way to relive the movie. And in many cases, especially with what you do and what Marvel's done so well and Disney in general, they make these inextricable soundtracks from the content. So there's this great sort of...

that has to exist. And I wanted to ask you, I was reading an interview with you where you kept referring to cues, cues, you know, portions of a soundtrack as cues. Yeah. It occurred to me, it's got to be hard for you who's representing what we're seeing on screen through music, but to also not give an indication or give away, pre-give away plots or moods before the director or the movie itself generates them. Yeah.

Well, you learn the hard way. I mean, you just have to not do it. That's part of working at Marvel, or really for most projects now. You just have to be really, really, keep your circle small. Part of what's fun for the fans is,

even though they pry and want to know everything that's going on in advance. Part of what's fun is for them to go and be surprised. So I think that that's really important to keep those secrets. And what's really funny is,

frankly, is titling the cues, the pieces of music, even when you're working on them and, of course, on the soundtrack because you have to be so generic or so non-committal to the plot because if something gets out early, I mean, the forces come down upon you. It's like you just find... Can we call it Samuel Stern's I Don't Know? Is that a spoiler? Yeah.

Like there was one cue called The Garden and we had changed it. I forget if there was one White House one that we had a different title for. But, you know, it's really all out there where you just have to guard those spoilers. And that's one of the reasons why if you look very carefully at the end credits, you'll see that the studio dogs have a credit. Hmm.

Really? Yes, they do. They do. Fauci and Big Girl and Bernie have credits because they're sitting here all the time and they manage to keep their mouth shut. So I don't know how they do it. I mean, they're out in the world. They're barking at other dogs, but they really keep these secrets. They keep the spoilers safe. So so we feel compelled to go. I'm surprised they haven't been signed to an NDA on, you know.

Well, they are. But it's pod. It's not signed. And it's a very special thing. Laura, this is a question we've actually asked Michael Giacchino before. But when coming into an existing franchise like Captain America, he's done Star Trek. He's done Star Wars movies. He's done Mission Impossible. And you come into Captain America, and this is the fourth or fifth Captain America movie at this point. And all of these themes exist already in that universe. Right.

How much does that influence or affect your job on a new movie, and how much does it not? It does a lot. I mean, you've got to know what that music is, and you've got to ask the questions. I mean, do we want to use the Steve Rogers theme? Do we want to use the great Henry Jackman music? And, you know, I also score What If, and the thing about What If...

is that every theme is used because that's the thing. They're all kind of takeoffs of the movies, and so you want to actually bring in as much as you can of the movies and even mess with it. I think in this particular film, Julius and Kevin really wanted something that was real,

In this movie, in this place. And so they're kind of, I mean, they're major themes. But the two major themes are one, I call it the Brave New World theme. And it's not a new cap theme. In fact, I actually just blew this before to you and your son. There's a tiny, tiny little reference to the Alan Silvestri theme at the very end of it. But I'll save that for you guys to go in and dig around and try to figure out.

It's a theme for the three of them. It's a theme for all the heroes of Brave New World. So it's Isaiah, Joaquin, and for Sam. But there's also this conspiracy music that opens up the whole movie, right? It's the whole opening, and you hear it first up in the end credit after the Kendrick Lamar song. And I don't know. Ironically, the conspiracy music becomes sort of the...

I would say the most prominent theme in the movie. And so I think the long answer to your question is every time you go into a project, you have to look at everything that has happened in the MCU. You've got to make an evaluation. And then you've got to decide, okay, where are we at right now in this movie?

What is this particular movie about? Do we want to draw upon the themes? Do we want something new? Like, what are we vibing here? And that's really up to Julius and to Kevin and Nate and all the people who are involved in making the creative decisions. Laura, I geek out on instrumentation and what composers decide to what instruments, voices of the orchestra they choose.

Um, so with, uh, with you, you'd mentioned Steve Rogers theme. I always think of, you know, brass, I think of tubas and trombones and French horns and things like that. Um, so to change things up, did you want to go, cause I haven't seen the film yet. I'm going to get out and see it. Um, but, but with this, with this film, did you want to change that tone instrumentally wise, instrumentation wise and, and make it its own thing?

Look, you know, there's nothing like a good French horn superhero theme. And so you have it here. But you also have a lot of other stuff. We started with actually New Orleans drumline percussion. Okay. Because it fits Sam, obviously. It's in his musical DNA. Yep. And so I recorded that first not knowing what I would get out of it. And it was fantastic.

filled with surprises. It actually, that percussion winds up driving a lot of the score and winds up being actually the driving force behind the conspiracy theme and the Brave New World theme. It's in the Stearns theme. It's everywhere. So that first initial percussion sampling was really amazing. In addition to that, we used wind-up toys, kind of like in this tense... Wow.

Because, you know, it's literally like I'm making a motion with my hands like that kind of one. It's literally the definition of tension. So we use those for the conspiracy theory. I used my mother's 1970s analog radio for Stern's music. So those of you who have seen the film will understand why that is. As well as a massive orchestra, a ton of synths, and then...

Taking those things and really combining them in ways that really excited me musically. I orchestrated out the synths and the orchestra, and then I took the orchestra and manipulated it to sound more like synths. So it's really cool. I have to say I had a great time with this score. I have a great time with every score, but I learned a lot on this one about that. I think...

Julius really wanted it to be a modern score. And so I really played around with a lot of elements that I hadn't done as much work with. And it was a great time. I love that you are able to NCIS it for us so that we... Because I love... I always presume that the...

My favorite composers are taking the time to look for those nuggets and to look for those moments to, you know, to accentuate a character. Now, Sam's a big fan of Marvin Gaye. Trouble Man was something he recommended to Captain America. Did you feel the need to weave influences in there of Marvin Gaye's music as well?

No, but I love that music. I mean, I love that song. And it's funny about that song is it's really orchestral and really evocative and really moves out of pop music. So I would say not specifically, but there is something about the mysteriousness of that and the foreboding nature of that song that I think definitely...

you know, shares, shares a kind of a DNA with this, with this score. I also think there is something about the seventies and those political thrillers and, and Lalo Schifrin. And, you know, that had an influence on my music for this thing. I mean, definitely the bop, bop, bop, bop, bada, bop, you know, that vibe, which, so I do think that that comes into play. It's kind of new old school in a way. So, um,

Yeah, maybe. I mean, not on purpose, but maybe in my subconscious. Maybe I just gave you a revelation. Maybe you did. Oh, my God. That's why it's time to switch glasses. Wait, wait, wait. Okay, all right. Before you switch glasses, do me a favor. Put the other ones back on because I had a question about the glasses. Uh-oh, uh-oh, they fell. All right. Oh, no, no, no. Man down. I'm going to be back.

Here they are. Glasses down. Wait, I'm back. I'm back. Yeah. They're great. So I follow you on Instagram, Laura. And unless I'm mistaken, those are the exact same glasses that you wore on the red carpet and you were standing next to Harrison Ford wearing those glasses that you have on your face right now.

These are the Harrison Ford gloves. Oh, those are. The ones that look more Captain America-ish. Yeah, the ones that look more Captain America. And I really, I'm very upset that you can't tell the difference. I don't know. We're looking at a picture of it right now. I'm looking at you on the red carpet standing next to Harrison Ford. And it looks like not the ones that you have on your face now, but the ones that... Oh, no, you're right. You're right. But look at the...

It was later in the evening and I came. I got you. Oh, my God. That's what I was going to say. You know what? It wasn't the red. It was the after party. That's why. I see. It's not 6 a.m. It's recalling. But, yeah, I did get a picture with Harrison Ford, didn't I? And so I've been told to ask about that encounter because I've heard that your time with Harrison was memorable.

Oh, well, he's he's I mean, come on. This guy is iconic. He he he loved the music. I was there with my son who got to meet him. He said, oh, my God, I got to shake hands with that guy. And and it was really it was, you know, he's he is a quiet person. He was off there in a corner kind of quiet.

he wasn't quite by himself, but he was off there in a corner. And, and, and so I, I stole the chance to, to say hello and to, and to get that picture and to have a little chat with him about the music, which was really nice. I don't know how you couldn't, I have to, I just watched again, American fiction, which is phenomenal. One of the best movies of last year. And, and, and your soundtrack is so great and so jazzy and so wonderful. And, and, and I was thinking, by the way, you were nominated for a Grammy for that. Were you not?

Grammy, Oscar, you know, lost every single one of them. But let's not forget the source subject. Yeah, it's still damn good, though. And I have to ask you, do you believe, because you're trained in jazz as well, I think you were learning classical and jazz at the same time. Yeah. Do you think, and I would imagine this is the case, that those jazz chops help you innovate more?

for movie scoring? The ability to sort of freeform it, if for lack of a better term. You know, it's funny you say that. When I went for my first meeting for Captain America, Kevin Feige, who loves music, he's a real music fan, and he knows scores, soundtracks, the whole thing, just like you. And he came in and said, I just listened again to the score for American Fiction. What can we do that's unusual like this? What can we do like this? And what I do think is

is that my studies in jazz really inform my harmonic approach. So for those of you who don't deeply understand music, there are kind of two things, the lines that move horizontally and the lines that move vertically, right? The lines that move horizontally are melody, but the lines that move vertically are harmony.

And that's all the chords and all the stuff that goes underneath the melody. And so I do think that jazz really influences my approach to harmonic writing, even in a score like this. It's there if you just look hard for it. Laura, you mentioned the...

Awards that you did not win. However, we are watching you via Zoom right now. And behind you, I notice, are your Emmy Awards wearing Barbie clothes? They are. Oh, my gosh. That's what I thought. I love that. They're wearing Barbie clothes because, you know, they're just like naked ladies. Yeah, it's true. You know what I mean? I mean, so they are clothed. And there is Ella Fitzgerald Barbie.

Wow. There's Billie Jean King Barbie. There's Glam Barbie. Awesome. All iconic female. Yeah, they're all in there and they all have their own identities. There's one who's like in a track suit type of thing. I love it. Yeah, they're dressed in Barbie clothes. Don't you think you should be? Your style extends to so many things. Listen, if I ever win that Oscar, I'm going to put pants on that thing. All right.

Laura, I saw on Disney Plus this wonderful documentary about John Williams, you know, the legend. And there's a sequence near the very beginning of it where he's with Steven Spielberg and Steven is explaining to him when he met with John about the score for the film Jaws. And it's so funny because it's almost like John Williams said, no, let me try this out on you. Yeah.

What do you think? What do you think? Right. And Spielberg's like, I don't know. What's that? Probably exactly what happened. Yeah. So when you are when you work with the director, I'm curious about how much authority they have versus you.

in what the final say is in the music. Because we had Michael Giacchino on not that long ago, and I was asking him about the film Dune, and Hans Zimmer did the score for that, and he said something. He loved it, but he thought it was a little bit loud. And I'm like, oh, does the composer have anything to do with that? He said, absolutely. So I didn't know that...

as composers sometimes have this, I would have thought the final mix, the level would have been up to the director. So what, is there a balance between what each of you controls in that regard? You know, not in the way that you're saying it. I think what there is is a collaboration. And I think as you establish trust

You are invited to collaborate more. So in a situation like this movie, I've done a lot of projects for Marvel. I can go into the room and say, hey, guys, should we take that applause down? Or can we bring the music up here? And I think you advocate for what you think. But it's a collaborative situation where...

where everybody really has a say, but ultimately, uh, you know, at the end of the day, it's the director and, and, you know, and the producers, um, that really, that, that I think that, I mean, that's the truth of it, but I will say that I have a very loud and, and, and listened to voice in the room. Um, I think, I think, you know, to, to sort of answer a question that you didn't ask about the John Williams thing. Um,

You know, he would sit down at the piano and play themes for Spielberg. Spielberg trusted him to go record that, make that happen with the orchestra. And now we have all this technology. So we're actually really, really sketching out convincing demos of how the music will sound when it's recorded by a full orchestra. It doesn't sound nearly as good. It doesn't have nearly the power. But the

People at large really have a sense of what's working and what isn't for them. I think of you composing music. I think of you taking all this meticulous effort to get the sound that you want. And when I've recorded something, even just a dumb bit for the show, and I'm hearing it and I'm listening to it in the headphones at home, and then I listen to it on a particular pair of reference speakers, and then it goes on air through our audio chain and it doesn't sound right. I mean...

Does that tie you up into knots or do you just, once you're done, you've, here you go. The fates are to the winds now. Or do you, is it a nightmare scenario for you? No, it's all of it. It's like literally, it's every single thing that you said. It's not a nightmare scenario because, you know, Laura Hirschberg, who's an incredible re-recording mixer, takes this stuff and she does magic with it. So she is able...

really, really good mixers will find the space for everything. So it's just a matter of every once in a while. Look, if there's a big explosion, you're not going to hear the music, but like, you know, at, we negotiated it in, in some of the Hulk stuff where, um,

You know, it's like, okay, where's the emotion? Let's bring that up. Oh, let's bring this. Let's clear out for this. So those are the collaborations you make. It is a very all-consuming art form. So there's a lot of stuff going on. And you've got to carve out space for other people's work as well. You just do and you should. However, you do have the soundtrack and you do have, I mean, I have a relationship with my music community.

here in the studio, in the soundtrack, it exists as its own, and I believe it's strong on its own, which is really important to me. And then, you know, you're obviously going to lose some stuff in the theater. You have to. But

you're, you know, you're always there and you're underpinning the emotion of the film. And my God, it's such a privilege and a gift. I see the, uh, all these instruments behind you, bass guitars, guitars, drum set. And, uh, you know, I want to ask like conceptually, um, you know, you probably compose on the piano first or whatever, but I just saw this footage of John Tash, uh,

last week. Oh, yeah. And this was insane because he played on stage a voicemail that he left for himself. And it was him making, you know, it was the NBA on NBC theme. It was him singing it on the phone line to remind him. That was how he came up with that concept for that. Have you ever done that? Have you ever hummed your concept first and then you're like, okay, hang on a second. I need to get this out on an actual musical instrument.

Yeah, I have. And on walks, that's a really productive time for me. Sometimes you work stuff, sometimes even in dreams, believe it or not. Yeah, I can work stuff out when I'm dreaming. You know, when you're in the thick of it and writing themes, I mean, that's the hardest part. That's the stuff that really takes concentration. So sometimes you just got to break a pattern. Sometimes when you sit, if you're a pianist, you sit down at the piano and you're kind of going to the same stuff all the time. But yeah,

When you get out of the studio, and I live on the beach, I'm so fortunate, and go for a walk or go for a little run, listen to something, you get an idea from something, you sing it in your phone, and it happens all the time. Laura, earlier in the interview, you mentioned Alan Silvestri, and he's done a lot of work with Marvel. He did Back to the Future, Forrest Gump. He's a legend, but he also did Mac and Me. Oh, my God.

One of our favorites. I read at one point that he just kind of mailed that in, that that was a paycheck for him. You know, Mac and Me was this E.T. ripoff, and it sort of gained this cult status over the years. Have you ever just mailed it in? Ha, ha, ha, ha.

No. Simple answer, no. You know why? Because those glasses aren't paying for themselves. They're not paying for themselves. No, no. Listen, the real reason is, I mean, this is going to sound really kind of crazy, but I have this kind of like musical morality, you know, where it's like,

I have to work something. You know, I can't... I mean, look, there are certain times, especially in episodic television, where you're just, like, trying to get, like, buckets of music done, where I'll sit down at the piano and say, press record and go. So, I mean, that's the closest to me, you know, mailing it in. But I don't think so. I really love what I do. And I don't, like, take so many projects that it's just, like...

And I have to tell you, I seriously doubt that Alan did that. You think that was just off-the-cuff talk? He wasn't being... He was probably just having some fun with it. Because it sounded a lot like his work on Back to the Future. And I think it was a tongue-in-cheek comment on Mac and me itself.

I think so, too. I mean, that guy is a really diligent composer. And and it probably it sounds like it was just in the sort of the atmosphere of what the movie was, you know. So I think it was being funny. But, you know, hey, I also have to pay another dollar to him. Yeah, I recently saw the documentary, The Rock Cuts and All That Heaven Allowed. You scored that as well. It did. And I was I.

Ice Station Zebra is one of my favorite movies. So Rock Hudson, you know, and the documentary are sensational. You as a composer, when you're approaching a documentary as opposed to a work of fiction or Captain America, is there a is there a delineation that takes place or is it all the same?

You know what? Every project has its own requirements. So I would say, you know, the thing about documentary is that any time you put a lens up to something, that person becomes a character, whether they actually exist or not. Like literally you're scoring character no matter who the person is and whether it's a living person or a fictional person, it's about character and you're you're.

You're creating some subtext for that character. So no, there is no difference for me. I think a documentary like that, though, was kind of unusual because what we would do is we would go and record these jazz tunes that I would write, like literally tunes that would be...

kind of pre-planned to implement into the score, but we would go and record, let people solo, and I knew that bar like 23 to 42 would land up in the score, but...

I let people keep going because it's what gives a film like that the vibe that it needs in terms of being a period film and really playing with that kind of period of music. Hey, Laura, besides composing for a commission, people hiring you to do this, do you do any of your own writing just out of pure enjoyment, personal reasons, anything like that? Yeah. Okay. I mean, all the time. All the concert music is...

is a money-losing situation. So it's like every time I sit down to write an opera, I know I'm going to actually lose a tremendous amount of money. So I would say that even if someone's asked me to write something for them that it's a money-losing thing, I'm, oh gosh, I don't even know if I should announce that, but I think I will. Why not? I've written an opera about Billie Jean King. Wow. We love her.

She's been by here many times. She's a big, big Philadelphia fan. Well, it's called Balls. I love it. And so that is being done. It was done last year in San Francisco, but it's being done in London in the fall. So I have to orchestrate now that I have to orchestrate that for Big Orchestra. And that's a delightful experience.

a money losing situation. She has, she has a, a great sense of humor. She's been in on the show a number of times. Oh really? Yeah. And she's, she's terrific. And, uh, yeah, she rolls, she rolls with it. So I bet she busted out laughing at that title. Oh,

Oh, I haven't met her yet, but I'm really hoping that I get to this time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Tell her we said hi because we're fans and we really do love her. Oh, she's, you know, this is a person who's really an important, I mean, beyond important role model. She changed everything for everybody.

Incredible. For women's sports. I mean, she put women's sports on the map and then did so much more than that. You know, Title IX and, you know, that kind of representation is the kind of thing I saw growing up and made me feel like it was possible to be a composer. And here you are doing a similar thing in a different field. It's wonderful that you're, you know, knocking down walls for people. Captain America Brave New World is in theaters now.

Laura Cartman is the composer amongst many other great MCU projects. Can we ask what is next in the queue for you if you can tip your hand a little bit?

I can't. Okay. But a lot. A lot. We're starting to get really busy, and there's some really cool TV stuff coming up. What I will hint at is one of the shows is by an absolutely fantastic actor.

major person that everybody is going to want to see. How's that for being vague? But the score winds up being a lot like American fiction and like some of the Lala Shiffrin stuff that we just talked about. When that comes out, I'll come back on and we can chat about it because everyone's going to dig it. Excellent. Now listen, before the interview ends, I found better glasses. Hang on. Which are going to at least compare to you. Yeah.

All right.

You know, there's nothing wrong with a ski goggle. Nope. Nope. Except I can't see a damn thing. I will say that many, many times I've thought about getting like a fabulous ski goggle and wearing it, but I have stopped myself thus far. But do not hold out any promises for this. When it comes out of your camp, then we'll know it's past muster as a fashion accessory. There you go.

go. Laura, it is great to catch up with you. Thanks for joining us this morning. Continued success and I'm sure our paths will cross again down the road. Love you guys. It's always fun to come on. Thank you. I appreciate it. Laura Cartman, guys. Composer of Captain America.

Brave new world. She did the Marvels and What If and a lot of great stuff. She's really a, she is a force. And a cool person on top of it, which is a wonderful thing. I love to hear the meticulous breakdown of the music and what prompted this and using children's toys to get the suspenseful aspect of the political intrigue. All that, to the movie viewer who's really a committed movie viewer, that means something. And by the way, you can go see the movie. We have tickets. Yay!

Yes. And how many can I give away, Case? I mean, we have five pairs. Five pairs? Yeah. Let's give away three of them right now. Okay. Okay, so we'll take callers 10, 11, 12. 215-263-WMMR. Now playing everywhere in IMAX and 3D. Of course, the stars Anthony Mackie and Harrison Ford. So, what did I say? You said 10... 10, 11, 12. All right, 215-263-WMMR. And we will set you up. Speaking of music...

I wanted to play a piece of music for you guys. I don't know if we'll listen to the whole thing, but it's lengthy. Well, it's three minutes long. Do you want to chat with him at all? Because he listens all the time. Right now? Yeah. It's okay if not. No, we're going to talk to him, I would imagine, when we get a little bit closer to Carver Classic, which is a week from tomorrow, by the way. But Sammy Vile.

who last year killed it with his Johnny Five sled. It was awesome. It was huge, insanely impressive, and could have easily won. The Barbie sled won last year. That was Mr. Peanut.

And so Sammy, while getting ready for Cardboard Classic, decided to write a song about it with a video. With a cameo in the video, by the way, which I'm not going to spoil for you. Don't do that. And by the way, last year, I believe it was a Wawa sled that won the whole thing. Oh, I'm sorry. You're right. Wawa won the whole thing. You are correct. So this is a little bit of Sammy's tribute to Cardboard Classic. Thank you.

Are you throwing that cardboard out there? Parcels, postal tubes, files Please send to me You can't spend These are full of lies

Tell them to find me these only supplies. The hair of exception. Carbine, some gluten. The flask. Our young people do. You found your team. Now get to work in the two-month-old mountain. You'll see us in the car. And then shout about.

It's time to give me a carton, but please under the content, Preston, Steve, Case, Kathy, and Nick, and let's pour some ranch on Parmigiani, I'm sure, once again, we'll time.

Tell Mr. Peanut he saw the West Side. Mount Arby, one of the world's top guys. Fifteen pounds, all justified. And the Waskis' palms were filled with free booze. I need six or seven. We were bombed by quarter to nine.

Are you going to the cardboard affair? We rage on every damn time. With Preston Steen and Pierre Roubaix. These ones are so true, loves of mine.

Sammy Vile. That's great. So good. The video is outstanding. He even went so far as to, there's a line in there when he mentions glappy. And goes out, and I guess he had the forethought that it's going to snow.

and went and wrote glappy just before as the beginning of the snow and then he time-lapsed it as the snow fell. It was amazing. And you see the word glappy appear in the snow. It is so cool. And there's a reference to...

Mr. Peanut being on the wrong side. That's from last year. Because Peanut brought out his sled, and he brought it out before anybody else's sleds came out, and he put it on the wrong side of the hill. It F'd things up. And it was stuck.

because they put up all the partitions and everything. They had like a whole scene. He was stuck on the wrong side. Yeah, it sat there and they were like, what are we going to do? And he referenced that in the song. That's funny. And he also has a flag with ball sacks are yummy on it.

I loved it. I absolutely loved that. Yeah, the video's up on our Instagram page. It's Sammy's as well, Sammy Vile. Sammy's brother, Paul Vile, will also be at Cardboard Classic. And then Paul texted me and he said, is there any way you guys give me a shout out? Jell-O Man will be coming to Cardboard Classic once again. Jell-O Man! And slinging Jell-O around like he do. Like he do. Yeah, so...

We're looking forward to seeing Sammy and Paul at Carver Classic next week. Now we can't. They have to be a part of every one of them. There's no two ways about it. I have no idea what they're planning. Has anybody heard? I'm not going to say nothing. I've been privy to a couple. In fact,

Eric had given me... I'll give you a couple of the concepts. I'm not going to give all of them away. But there is... One is called Gummies with Ed. Okay.

Dumpster Fire. That one sounds interesting. The Scallywags is a pirate ship. I think the most consistent every year sled, there's always a ship at least one. If it's built the right way structurally, it's always going to make the run. There's usually a pirate ship

And some type of airplane, like a jet plane, a fighter plane or something like that. Yeah, last year there was a Top Gun one and that thing looked great and I believe it stayed intact the whole way down. In fact, I think there was somebody hidden in one of the compartments in the actual craft itself. In the cockpit, yeah. Somebody's doing dick in a box.

Ah, nice. It says Richard in a box. Remember that first plane that took up like all three of the lanes when we were at Jack Frost? And it tried to come down. I think it fell apart like immediately, but that thing was huge. You know what? One of my all-time favorites, Lesnar, there's been so many great ones that it's hard to put your finger on one that is your favorite, but it kind of came and went real quick with somebody did a fateful recreation of

of Lone Star 1, of the Winnebago, from Spaceballs. And, like, inside, it was replicated. I mean, like, they had the liquid Schwartz in there. They had the gear shifter. That's been repeated. All that stuff. A number of times, but no one did it as well as the one you're mentioning. It was meticulous. Yeah, even the Barbie mobile that Peanut did last year. Oh, man. Like, the interior of the Barbie mobile, it was insane. I mean, they had, like, a full...

like shower in there. Yeah, yeah. You know, so, you know, a lot of people just pay attention to the details on the outside, but, you know, there are a few people out there that do really, really meticulous work on the insides of their sleds. Somebody's doing the bagster. Yeah. The bagster. Absolutely right. I love the bagster. I think obviously we'll be yelling that.

As it's coming down the hill. I'm always looking forward to see what Clutch does. He does these simple designs. He did the rocking chair that one year. The one year he did a slide where as the slide was going down the hill, he climbed up the ladder on the slide and then went down the slide. Last year he was on a swing. Somebody's doing one called the Saracuda.

Oh, cool. And that is a Sarah Parker tribute sled. It says a Jackson and Sarah Parker tribute sled. Oh, that's cool. Who calls her Sarah Cuda? Is it Jackie or Gary Lauer? Oh. Somebody calls her Sarah Cuda, and I think it might be Jackie. In the mountains. Wait, did you hear that? Oh, God.

I don't think Gary would have come up with that. That's too clever for him? Okay. Let's see. Somebody else is doing a port-a-john, it says. A port-a-potty, a.k.a. the port-a-john. John. John. Yeah. I get it.

There's a bunch of really good ones here. All right. Well, this is, this is going to be a tease, a great year. And, uh, we hope that you are going to be joining us for that. Uh, Marissa. Yes. We always get so many questions or there are just things that if you have not gone before, or if you've gone, you want to know the best way to do it. Go to wmr.com slash cardboard classic. There's so much information up there. Um,

Just highly recommend. Whether you're building a sled, attending, attending for the first time, whatever it is. Want to see old photos you guys are talking about or videos? WMMR.com slash Carver Classic. Yeah. This is our 20th year doing this. We had to take a couple off because of COVID. But this is year 20. And people still ask, is this event free? Yes. It is free. Yes. If you want to, there's usually great rates on lift tickets and everything. And of course, for Mountain Fest and Montage, your lift ticket is your...

It's your ticket for, or your lift pass is your ticket for the concerts that are going on this weekend. Casey, Clutch is on the line. Hang on, let's go to him. Yo, Clutch, good morning, bud. Good morning. You guys rock. We love you, man. We cannot wait to see what you have in store. I don't know if you want to. Neither can I. I have no idea what's going on. You have no idea what's going on?

I have no idea what's going on. I'm a week behind. You guys put it a week earlier. I haven't painted anything yet. All right. They don't call you clutch for nothing, dude. You're going to come through. Clutch situation is where I come through. All right. Okay. So it's a surprise to you. It's a surprise to all of us. No, it's not going to be a surprise. It's going to be a moving device that will transport people.

in a fun manner. Okay. What is it, Clutch, of all the years that you've done this, what is your personal pièce de résistance? The one that you really nailed it.

I mean, they're all fun. It's like your children. You can't pick your favorite. My best one that I think that I wanted to make was the tricycle. It never actually made it down the hill because it tweaked on the frame. But that's where I wanted to go down the hill and have that front wheel spinning with the pedals going and my tassels blowing in the wind. But it didn't happen.

It looked phenomenal. I liked your slide. I mean, I thought that was... Oh, yeah, the slide was a hit. There was a line for the slide, and I walked up kind of to the middle to talk to somebody, and some guy got angry behind me and said, yo, buddy, the slide, the line's at the back. You know, you've got to get to the back of the line for the slide. Yeah. I was like, dude, you know, I built it for myself.

I've already written it like 15 times, but yeah, sure. I'll get the back of the line. All right. Well, listen, we will see you next Friday, my man. As long as I make it there, I will see you guys. You will be there. You have to be there. It's not the event without you. All right, Clutch? I appreciate it. All right. We'll see you, man. Take care. Hang on. Let me go to Pat because he's designing one. Hi, Pat. You're on the air, my man.

Dead Zoops, gentlemen. How y'all doing? Dead Zoops. We are wonderful. So which sled are you behind? We are doing Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Ah, the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car. Never been done before. Not that I've never. In the 20 years, I've never seen a Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. That's awesome.

Yeah, we went with a lot of detail this year, kind of like the Hogwarts when we did that with the train. So it was a little bit smaller this year. OK, but yeah, we're trying to go. The Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car, by the way. So there's a company called Corgi out of England and it was it was they're still around. They did the James Bond car. They did the Batmobile and they did the Chitty Chitty Chitty Chitty Bang Bang technically is the name of the car. I love that. The wings that came out and all that stuff.

We were thinking about doing wings, but with the week earlier, we kind of fell behind a little bit. All right. I got you. But listen, your Hogwarts Express was one of the best ever, ever. Thank you. Cardboard classic. So we're looking forward to what you have, Pat.

Can't wait. Hope to see everybody there. It should be a good time. All right. Good luck, bud. We'll see you then. Remember when people did the Luck Dragon from The NeverEnding Story? Yes! And as it was going down, its ears went up. The ears flying. Was that just unintended? The ears flew up in the air. Just like the movie! Was that the same guy? I thought Luck Dragon and Harry Potter Train were the same people. Don't know. I don't remember. Might have been. Might have been.

If that was you, let me know. Might have been. Yeah. I've got, finally, I've got our best friends are coming out. Who's coming out? This year, the Chapmans. Oh, really? So they get to experience after all these years, they're finally coming out. And Rochelle has never been. Oh, so they're all going. And she's coming too. Hey, I got an idea. I think you and Rochelle and Will and Lori and me and whoever else should all go out to dinner.

And Rochelle should offer to pay for everybody. Is she coming up Thursday night? That's all you got to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you should probably do. All right. Let's see what she's doing Thursday night. Okay. Why don't you... Yeah, you guys ask. I'm not asking. Cardboard Classic. A week from tomorrow. Details at WMMR.com. Impressant at Steve.com. Do not miss it. We're going to take a break. Come back in a second. We've got some bizarre file stories on the way.

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It's faster, better, and there's less poop. So text us anytime at 39333. Now, back with more of the Preston and Steve Show podcast. Now, WMMR presents Preston and Steve's Bizarre File. Bizarre.

All right, I'm going to lead the bizarre file with a terrible story. I will tell you that everyone is okay in this story. All right. But this is just unbelievable. Police discovered a boy and two girls abandoned by their mother and living in squalor for five years in southeastern Michigan while conducting a welfare check during the past weekend. The boy is 15. He's the oldest, so he was 10 when this started.

The two girls are 13 and 12, and they've been living without parental guidance since the height of the COVID pandemic. The three youths had been living alone in a condominium that is in a state of squalor since the spring or summer of 2020. All three are in reasonably good health.

after undergoing initial medical examinations and are scheduled to undergo more in-depth physical and mental health examinations soon because they're probably damaged after being treated like that. How could they not be? The three youths are recovering while in the care of social services and the mother's in custody. Sheriff's office raised money to help pay for their medical bills and education and the fundraising was so successful the sheriff's office said...

It does not need any more donations. It's actually searching for a law firm to create a trust fund for the three kids. Yeah. So that's going to help. The father...

was in prison when the mother abandoned her children, but he was released. In 2022, he obtained a court order enabling him to visit the youth. The mothers refused to let him see them. Local police discovered the kids living alone over the weekend and said they had been living on bread and occasional food delivered by DoorDash and Instacart. I don't know where they were getting money. How were they paying? Yeah. The mother...

dropped off hygiene products and food, but recently gave them a loaf of bread that was supposed to last them for about three days. Gaps in the local school enrollment process caused the kids to go missing without notice. None of the three had received any schooling since their abandonment. They stayed indoors and watched TV to pass the time. Dude, when the cops got there, like, the toilet didn't work. The bathroom was full of crap. Oh, my gosh.

And it was just stuff all over. It was in Michigan. But where did you say the parents were? He was in jail. They didn't say. The father had been incarcerated, but he was released. And then the mother wouldn't allow him to see the kids. And I have no idea where the mom was this whole time. But she would drop by. I'm assuming she's a drug addict. Wow. I'm assuming she's a drug addict, but I don't know for sure. The oldest boy only went outside twice.

once was to check on the mail and the other time was so he could feel the grass beneath his feet over the past years he only went outside twice what it says yeah so there will be more on this story uh for sure but um pretty crazy um all right something a little bit lighter than that they're getting closer to finding that nigerian prince who keeps emailing you yay i got a whole bunch of correspondence from him in osun state nigeria

Oba Joseph Olaidi, the apetu of Ipadumodu, has been arrested by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation for allegedly defrauding the U.S. government of $4.2 million in COVID-19 relief funds. Damn. Declared missing in March 2024, Olaidi was found in FBI custody, facing a 13-count indictment.

This is for the Northern District of Ohio, including conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering. He and an accomplice allegedly secured over $4.2 million in small business administration funds with Oloyede reportedly pocketing $1.7 million and an additional $1.3 million through falsified applications for co-conspirators. So he was pulling that scam and they got him. So that's...

One less. Now if we can just get the people that tell us that we need to pay our tolls. I just got that text yesterday. I got it yesterday too. They're on a streak right now. They're getting bombarded. Yep. All right, how about this? A 33-year-old woman known only as Miss A in the press went to the plastic surgery hospital of the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences to treat a condition called hemifacial atrophy, which made the left side of her face shrink and her eye appear sunken. Wow.

Wow. During surgery to improve her facial symmetry, doctors found five contact lenses stuck behind her left eyeball. Oh, my God. I've heard of this before. Five, though. You know what? But that's weird because your eye is attached. So they can't actually go behind your eye. They go like up into your lid. But if you just blink, they come out.

Wow. How do they suggest how they ended up behind the eyeball? Ms. A had been wearing contact lenses for years and had lost several recently, not realizing they were trapped behind her eye. Fortunately, she didn't experience any problems from the stuck lenses. She could see like a falcon. But leaving them there could have led to infections or eye injury. But she had five of them behind her eye. That's messed up.

An Oklahoma man built this record brick by brick, literally. Great-grandfather Clem Reichenmeier was surprised with a Guinness World Record for his collection of 8,882 bricks. He has a brick collection. Okay. This is the greatest day of my life. The largest in the world for Clem Reichenmeier. How many? 8,882. Tell us!

His daughter, Celia, and son-in-law, Dan, got some friends together and they counted and documented the items in Clem's brick barn. You don't ever go into that barn, never. That's my brick barn. In Tulsa, Oklahoma. And they did it while Clem was out of town, Steve.

So they want to make sure. You sons of bitches. The kid surprised him with the record certificate. Vagina? No, I never heard of it. What is that? When he returned to town. Oh, my God. I've been wasting all this time. He spent 40 years building the collection, which does include a Roman brick from the year 100 A.D. That's a Roman brick, that one. Yes. 100 A.D.

That one? That one. Right there? Don't touch it. Okay. Can I look at it? Not too long. Okay. All right. And there you go. That's what I have in the Bizarre File for you this morning. Clem. Clem.

Great collection. That's great. Is Clem, by the way, now I know you had a dog that was short for Clementine. Clementine, yeah. But I wonder what the male version of that is. I don't know. That's actually a good question. Is it just Clem? Because there are, I've heard Clem as a male name many times. Clemens? Clemens, maybe. Clemens, maybe, yeah. I didn't see Clementine.

Which means merciful. Clemency? Yeah. It seems like it has a name? Yeah. Here's a guy who played cricket for England in the 1800s. His name was Clement Clem Clemon.

Clement. We remember Bill Clement. Yeah. But not Clement. He had a big mustache. He did have a big mustache. Clem Clemens. I wonder how old Bill Clement's doing these days. I texted him, I don't know, I guess like a year ago or so. He's collecting rocks. No, man, he is living a good life. Is he? He retired to North Carolina. He wanted to enjoy retirement. He was very happy. He says it was great to hear from me and he always...

Things very highly of you guys. But I think Bill did it right. Last time we talked to him, he was like using a chainsaw or something like that. He's like an aspiring lumberjack and just really enjoying his time in North Carolina. Do we shave his mustache? Yeah. That legendary mustache. There were a few others. The only one we didn't get to was Gardner.

Jim Gardner. That was the holy grail. We just spoke to him like normal humans because we knew if we didn't, he'd be gone in a second. We had to. Though he was this close to shaving his pubes for us. No, he was not. We're doing Shave Your Bush with Jim Gardner. It's for charity. Come on, Jim. Anything for the community.

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A green day on 93.3 WIWO. Everything that rocks. Holiday. 1023. Let's see. A reminder, tomorrow is when we give away our word of the week prize. Very quick turnaround. And it's a good one, too. $500. No, not $500. Live Casino Hotel Philadelphia prize pack. Overnight stay at the hotel. Pair tickets to see Jay Pharoah.

who's going to be at the live event center on Friday, March 14th. So we'll get a letter from Pierre today and then one more tomorrow. We will give that sucker away. So lesson, question, prize, four-pack of tickets for the Philadelphia Home and Garden Show, which is tomorrow through Sunday at the Expo Center in Oaks. And there were so many good ones to go with here. Uh,

Let's go with which 19th century president, our 13th president, began his career as a wrestler before politics? 215-263-WMMR. Steve mentioned it while we had Drew Gulag in here. So let's see if you know. Which 19th century president, our 13th, began his career as a wrestler before politics? 215-263-WMMR. Call if you know the answer. The trash business is a gold mine.

93.3 WMMR with Preston and Steve's Hollywood Trash. All right, before we get a winner, we'll get some stories from Steve. What's going on this morning, Steve? Well, Preston, former Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast member Maurizio Umansky broke his clavicle while skiing in Colorado. Umansky says because he's a celebrity, he was driven to the hospital in an ambulance and immediately admitted to the ER waiting room. Wow. Hey, you.

Luigi Mangione is making his first public comment since being arrested and charged for the murder of a healthcare executive. Mangione says he's touched by the outpouring of support, but then admits he's been touched for many years now. So...

And finally, Harvey Weinstein suing his own brother, Bob, for embezzling $45 million from the Weinstein company. Weinstein remarked, quote, I feel so violated. And then he exploded in a pulpy spray of irony. Let's go to the phones. Going to try to find out if you know which 19th century president began his career as a wrestler before politics. And it is John, who is our first caller in. So we'll go to him. Hi, John. Morning, bud.

That is correct.

Millard Fillmore. John, hold on a second. We are going to give you a four-pack of tickets for the Philadelphia Home and Garden Show. It's tomorrow through Sunday at the Expo Center in Oaks. Tickets at phillyhomeandgarden.com. And for discount tickets, use the promo code Casey, and you can go see Kathy while she's there. Now, Preston and Steve's Music News.

On 93.3 WMMR. All right, a couple of things in music news this morning. Prince's Purple Rain is going to come back to movie theaters for one night only. The movie will be getting a bit of an upgrade, too, with picture and sound quality even better than the 40th anniversary 4K disc that came out last May.

Purple Rain came out in 1984 and starred the musician as a talented but troubled musician as he dealt with issues with his career, family, band, and girlfriend, as well as a new rival. The movie musical will be available to watch at Dolby Cinema at AMC Theaters locations in the U.S. on March 15th.

So is it just simply to display the new refurb version or is it tying into any historical thing in Prince's history? I guess 1984. No, that would have been last year would have been a milestone anniversary would have been the 40th anniversary. So, yeah, not sure, Steve. And I'm curious how the movie holds up. It's been a long, long, long, long time since I've seen it. And I loved it. Yeah, I've told you before. I was like, yeah, I thought Prince was great.

Great. I enjoyed Prince music, but did I need to see a movie at the time in 1984? No. And then I eventually saw it and I'm like,

Oh, this is really good. Yeah, it was well done. I mean, he's unlikable in certain parts of the movie. And then, you know, he says the domestic violence has kind of shaped his life. And there's Morris Day. I've said before many times there's a scene where he realizes he's gone too far with Prince. It's quite seen. And he's like, I love all that. Yeah, it's really well done. Good movie. And obviously the music is fantastic throughout it. I only have one other thing. Mark Hoppus.

is about to sell off something cool for a great cause. Blank 182 bassist is selling a painting by the mysterious artist Banksy. It's called Crude Oil Vetrano and could be worth up to $6.3 million. Is it a picture of Jed Clampett shooting into the ground in oil coming out? It is not. He and his wife Sky got the painting in 2011 and it's been in their home in L.A.,

their homes in la and london since then uh the painting has a couple dancing on a beach but with a twist there's a sinking oil ship and some messy toxic waste there as well uh mark's auctioning it off and giving the proceeds to several causes including california fire foundation children's hospital los angeles and cedar sinai hematology oncology research which makes

Makes perfect sense because he had been a cancer survivor since 2021. Yeah. So he's giving back to that. So I thought that was pretty cool. That's it. That's all you need. I mean, you comb the desert. You know what you do need, though? Some popcorn. Yeah. I have for caller number 17 a $50 gift card for Cluster's Popcorn. And they have the ultimate snack deal right now. It's called the Pick Snack.

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The taste like a pickle one is fantastic. Thumbs up, huh? Yes, that's the only one I've tried. I've got to try some more. Oh, yeah, I did the spicy one. Which one was that? The habanero? Yeah. Sweet habanero? No, it was the chipotle white cheddar. Oh, yeah. I tried that too, Casey. It was really good. A little bit of a kick, man. They've got a lot available. We'll set you up with that call number 17. We'll take a break, come back in a second. Wrapping up the show when we return. Stay with us. Stay with us.

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We'll tap into the toes. Daughtry, 93.3 WMMR. Damn. Damn. 10.38 on Thursday morning as we are coming to a close with our program. You're damn right. You know what? I have one more $50 gift card for you.

Cluster's Handcrafted Popcorn. I want to give that away. So we'll take call number 18-215-263-WMMR and we will give you some goodies. So they have seven locations and Cluster's Popcorn isn't just about amazing handcrafted flavors. It's about community. They have seven locations, counting. Cluster's is bringing fresh gourmet popcorn to neighborhoods all over

And you can be a part of the family. Clusters is offering franchise opportunities. It's nice, yeah. You can bring this beloved snack to your town. So learn more at clusterspopcorn.com. And it's Clusters handcrafted popcorn like you never had before. So thank you guys for bringing that by today. It was a nice little treat to have here on the program and to give away as well. I want to thank our guests. We had a friend of ours, wrestler Drew Gulak. Yeah!

She was great. He has Catchpoint Professional Wrestling training. And if you are interested in getting into that line of work, you can join. Or if you're just interested in that line of work, they have a workshop. It's like a six-week long program. You can also just go and watch and check it out and see if it's right for you. Absolutely. And you can go to thecatchpoint.com. Super nice guy. Knows what he's doing. So it's good to have him by. And then another friend, composer Laura Karpman. Yeah, man.

whose most recent work was Captain America, Brave New World. Yes, she wrote the music for that film, and she's got other really big things coming up that she couldn't tell us about, and you know they're big things, because she's this sought-after, award-winning composer and really cool person.

That was nice. We need to get our letter of the day. I guess that's going to be you, Case. I got you, boo. All right, here we go. Preston and Steve on 93.3 WMMR. Now, the Daily Letter. And the Preston and Steve show is brought to you today by the letter. E as in electrocution. E.

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We have that video. Live Event Center on Friday, March 14th. Yeah, there's a video of Jackie Bam Bam getting the letter of the day for a whole week. And he would make these faces after he'd give the letter. By the way, Jay Pharoah is bringing his grown-ass kid tour to the Live Event Center. And tickets at livecasinofilly.com. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. I will take this moment to thank our sponsor.

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Peter Brady from the Brady Bunch. We're also going to chat with David Draymond of Disturbed. Nice. And another friend of ours, comedian Robert Kelly, is going to be stopping by. Oh, good. Yeah. It's going to be a really solid Friday tomorrow. So that is it. We are done. Rage on. Have yourself a great day, and we'll see you tomorrow, my friend. Preston and Steve on 93.3 WMMR. Be there. Do-do-be-do. Do-da-da-do.

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