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Time to do this thing. We welcome you, friend. It is indeed a Wednesday morning. Let's get right to it. Weather forecast for today. Starting off kind of soupy here in Ballakinwood, and we're looking at mostly cloudy again today. Warming temperatures, and with it,

comes a muggy sensation. It's going to feel way hotter than it actually is. But we do have some scattered thunderstorms later this afternoon. High today, 83. Like I said, it's going to feel warmer than that. Tomorrow, even worse, high 92. It's going to feel close to triple digits with the dew points from what I saw this morning. Forecasters talking about this, some afternoon thunderstorms as well.

And then Friday, sunshine 87. Saturday, high 91, partly cloudy. And Sunday, 95 is our high temperature. So you wanted it. It's coming. We got summer. And now, Kristen and Steve's News Update.

Today is June 18th, a Wednesday. Good morning. Kevin Krebs, 31 years old, was arrested near a Westchester No Kings protest on Saturday for unlawfully carrying a firearm. Court documents say Krebs was found in possession of a loaded Sig Sauer handgun, ammunition, and after further investigation, seven pipe bombs were found in his home. Several law enforcement agencies arrived at his home after finding the explosives and

They also found an AR-15, long gun, ski mask, military gloves, and military helmet in his car, which was parked a few blocks away on the day of the protest. Krebs did not have a permit to carry a firearm when police stopped him and found a fully loaded handgun hidden underneath his raincoat. He was also in possession of pepper spray, a pocket knife, six loaded assault rifle magazines, an M9 bayonet knife, a ski mask, and gloves.

Krebs was initially released on bond, but has since been taken back into custody on additional charges. Yeah. And the investigation is ongoing. Jesus. This was while, ma'am, police are investigating after a dangerous street takeover involving between 50 and 100 people held up traffic.

In Plymouth Township on Sunday night, surveillance video shows several cars driving in circles at high speeds as people hung out of the windows. And video also showed a crowd of people around the takeover with fireworks also being shot up during the incident. Now, it happened around 8 p.m. on Sunday at the intersection of Ridgepike Chemical Road and North Lane. That's crazy. Excuse me, Montgomery County. Yeah.

That is a major intersection. A major intersection. It's a five-point intersection. And, yeah, cars not involved in the takeover waited at stoplights for the dangerous situation to end. And several skid marks could be seen at the intersection yesterday.

The people involved fled the area when police arrived and no contacts of law enforcement were made with any of the participants. Anyone with information on those involved or urged contact, the Plymouth Township Police Department. Anonymous tips can be given at 610-233-0585. Do these things have kind of an air of like a flash mob? Do they just roll into an area, start going crazy, then take off? It's coordinated, right? Yeah, it's coordinated. Social media. And it's, I don't know how...

They get around police so easily. You would think they're monitoring most of these accounts. Sorry, Bryce. Do you think the police just give up on some of these occasions where they figure, all right, it's going to disband at some point. We're going to make sure that nobody gets killed or hurt too badly and then just let them go? I don't know. That's pretty dangerous to do that. I'm not really sure, but...

Yeah, apparently this particular meetup was moving around as I saw the news story this morning. And when they moved them out, they went somewhere else. Right, right. So they've got a couple of locations that they can go to. It's pretty crazy, man.

Nine Pennsylvania schools made this year's U.S. News and World Report Best Global Universities rankings. The list now in its 11th year evaluates schools based on their academic research and reputation using indicators such as publications and international collaboration.

The list encompasses more than 2,250 schools in 104 countries. So it's a really big list. I have to imagine that they use our coolest teacher awards to help their metrics, right? Yeah. The breakdown includes 397 schools in China, 200 in the United States. I'm sorry, 280 in the United States.

118 in India, 104 in Japan, and 93 in the United Kingdom. Among the ranked institutions, the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia is the highest ranking Pennsylvania school at number 17. It placed between Johns Hopkins and Cornell University. The next Pennsylvania school is University of Pittsburgh at 55, followed by Penn State University.

At 94, Carnegie Mellon University on the list at 128, while Temple University is 363. Drexel's 495, Villanova is 823, and Lehigh is number 995. Duquesne University rounds out the list of Pennsylvania schools.

at 1,898. As far as the top 10 goes, Harvard topped the list. Number one, followed by MIT, Stanford University, University of Oxford in the UK, University of Cambridge in the UK, and the rest are U.S. schools at University of California, Berkeley, University College London. I'm sorry, that's in the UK.

University of Washington-Seattle was number nine. Then you have Yale and Columbia University rounding out the top ten. So we got us some fine schools in this country of ours. All right, in sports this morning. Ball sacks are yummy. Ball sacks are yummy. Ball sacks are yummy.

And Nick's got it for you. What's up, man? The Phillies lost to the Marlins. 8-3 last night in Miami. Trailing 3-2 in the sixth, Miami scored six unanswered runs while five relievers, including former Philly Tyler Phillips, combined to hold the Phillies scoreless the rest of the way.

The series continues tonight. Ranger Suarez will get the start. The first pitch is scheduled for 640. About 30 miles up the road from where the Marlins played, the Florida Panthers won their second Stanley Cup in a row. The Panthers beat the Edmonton Oilers 5-1 in Game 6 of the Finals. The champions in the NHL for the second year. Sam Reinhardt scored four goals last night, becoming just the sixth player in league history and the first since Maurice Richard in 1957 to get that many goals in a game in the Finals.

Sergei Bobrovsky, former Flyer, stopped 28 of the 29 shots that he faced, closing the door on the rematch with the Oilers. And once again, the Panthers were the better of the two teams. Sam Bennett won the Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP. And Canada's Stanley Cup drought reached 31 seasons in 32 years, dating back to the Montreal Canadiens winning it in 1993. Teams in the U.S. Sun Belt have won it five of the past six times, with four of them happening in Florida.

Game six of the NBA Finals is tomorrow night with the Indiana Pacers hosting the Oklahoma City Thunder. OKC leads the series three games to two and are one win away from giving the city its first NBA title. Tip-off in Indianapolis will be at 830. And the Eagles are still the Super Bowl champs.

And that's what I have for you in sports this morning. All right, thank you very much, Nick. And we welcome all those who choose to join this morning. We have a few things that are going to be taking place. It's Wednesday, so we'll do Fox 29, talk to Mike and Alex, see how those guys are doing. And this morning, we have our annual Mark Summers event. So Mark Summers is in town. Every year. And he's going to come by and swing out. You know, we should do Summer with Summers. We should. Because it's always right around, you know, the...

As we start to get into the heat of things. It does feel like summer. And I think the reason he's coming to town, we should just give him his medical checkup here in the studio. We can do that. Yeah. Absolutely. Mark's going to stop in about an hour from now. And we'll just have a chat. Mark's always just got great stories. And just he's a great conversation. And so we'll get into that with him later on this morning. We have this cool thing taking place as well. Our friends at Acme Markets are doing a contest for our YouTube audience today.

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Now, back with more of the Preston and Steve Show podcast. All right, thank you very much, Marissa. So, stupid question time. We're going to give away those tickets for the... It's a four-pack, actually, Grandstand tickets for the Autotrader Echo Park Automotive 400 NASCAR Cup Series race Sunday, July 20th. And this will be at Dover Motor Speedway. There's a weird little question here for you. What character was invented...

to respond to questions from gold medal flower customers. I know it's a very specific question. What character to respond to gold medal flower users? Yeah, so it's an iconic character. You'll know the name when you hear it. But what character was invented?

to respond to questions from gold medal flower customers. All right, 610-660-9333. Probably have to dig around a little bit to find the answer to that. But when you do, reach out to us. We'll see if you get the prize. So today is the 18th day of June. We have some birthdays to mention while we wait for your answer. It is actress Carol Kane's birthday today.

She turns 73 years old. She's great. From everything, you know... Taxi. Taxi to the horror movie she did. Oh, yeah. Stranger Calls. Stranger Calls, that's right. Which is one of the early movies. They have brought her on to this series, Star Trek. Yeah? Yeah. The newest one? Stranger Worlds, which I love the first season. She's a great actress, but Preston, she's essentially doing Simca. Okay. And I'm like...

What in the F? Yeah, Simcoe is her character from Taxi with the real strong accent and everything. That doesn't pair well with Star Trek. Yeah, she's great in Princess Bride. Oh, terrific. And Scrooged. Yes. Cute in that. But wow. Okay, it's too bad that she didn't branch out with a different version of that. But she's 73 today of Simcoe. We also have actor Richard Madden.

Robb Stark from Game of Thrones. An impossibly good looking man. He is. And Steve and I will tell you if you've never watched this series it's from several years ago on Netflix called Bodyguard. Terrific. Great. Terrific. Absolutely. I can't believe they did not make another one of those. Uh,

I loved it. Yeah. I remember when that was on, I kept saying, this guy should be Bond. Yeah. This should be James Bond. Yeah, he could have easily been Bond. Yeah, we'll see. But he is 39 years old today. He was good in Rocketman, too, as kind of a scumbag. Oh, that's right. I forgot. Yeah, he was like a manager, and he and Elton had a relationship. Had a hookup, yeah. Yeah, wow. All right, we also have Isabella Rosalini. Hey.

She turns. Look at you. You're so beautiful. 73 years old today. You know what's funny, man? Because she was a sex symbol when I was younger. Right. And I didn't really see it. Oh.

I see it now. You do see it now? Yeah, how attractive she is, yes. I had a dream that I was hanging out with her last night for some reason. I don't know. I had some premonition that it was her birthday today. But I think about Isabella Rossellini far too often because there was a time where she was ill. She was supposed to be on Letterman, and Dave kept saying the same joke over and over again, which was, Isabella, she don't feel so good.

So they had to scramble and get a new last minute guest or whatever. And that line and her appearance, eventually she ended up showing up and she was very apologetic to Dave, but in a really charming and beautiful way. She's a knockout. So she turns 73 today. Casey, I know I'm going to go out of order here. You do it. Call an audible. I'm going to do that last. In the world of music, from Guns N' Roses, Dizzy Reed. Her name was Lola. She was

Unbelievable. Wow. I didn't have any Guns N' Roses, and this is the first button I saw. We don't have Guns N' Roses. Oh, you didn't have a chance to take a peek at this yet, did you? No, no, I didn't see that one in particular. Ah, okay. Fair enough. With his tribute to Barry Manilow.

Dizzy is 62. I actually, I don't even know what Guns song I would play for Dizzy Reed. It doesn't matter. It doesn't, right? He's not one of the original members of the band. It doesn't matter. So I might as well play... He doesn't matter. He doesn't matter. Yeah, hit it. Yeah! She was a showgirl with yellow hair. There's probably a huge Barry Manilow fan. I would imagine you can see the influences throughout the Guns N' Roses catalog. It's also Blake Shelton's birthday today. He turns...

49 years. He's a big fan of Napoleon Dynamite. Okay. I know nothing about him other than him being on The Voice. I mean, I literally couldn't tell you a song of his. Gwen Stefani. Well, I know that. But I mean, as far as his music goes, I don't.

I don't know how successful in country music he became or maybe the show pushed his career along further. He was successful. He is doing quite well. Joined The Voice. That certainly helped. Right. And the thing that I think of him first, Preston, I keep talking about this when his birthday rolls around. One of the funniest bits I saw was a country song parody that they did on SNL called The Wishing Boot.

Oh, I remember you telling me about that. Yeah. It's hilarious. And he's great in it. Then I got to see. Yeah. He's 49 today. Talent manager Scooter Braun. Oh, yeah. He's been in the news recently. Taylor Swift has successfully secured her music catalog from him. My cousin's husband worked for him.

My cousin's husband's a lawyer. He's from Philly, Pete Bartle. And Pete had a really interesting take on everything that was happening with the Taylor Swift, Scooter Braun debacle. And he was a bit biased because he worked in Scooter's office. But what Pete told me and then what was sort of revealed in that documentary that came out last year was that Taylor does an excellent job at marketing her message and

And she has legions of fans who will echo that message. That doesn't mean that she's right or wrong. It's just that she's very good at getting what she wants out there. Right. And Scooter does not have a bajillion Swifties out there. And so he was the villain in that story. Well, who was behind that documentary? Because I watched a two-part documentary and basically it was her side versus his side. Right. And ultimately I came away going, I actually started with...

Scooter. You said it was Scooter at the end of it. Yeah, absolutely. I didn't see it. And I felt the same way, Nick. Her promo team would have you think otherwise. She had every, every option to buy back her own catalog. And in fact, when the catalog was sold to Scooter...

Taylor's dad made $25 million off of that. It's not like nobody... It's more complex than we might think. He also was Justin Bieber's manager. Everything that he did legally was on the up and up. She ended up being pissed about the decision and then she kind of went after him. Not just Justin Bieber, but Ariana Grande, Carly Rae Jepsen, Dan and Shay, Tori Kelly, Kanye West, and Zac Brown bands. That's a lot. He's a mover and a shaker.

We also have comic book author and cartoonist Alan Davis. He drew the fantastic for The End and has written several volumes of The Avengers and Captain America. He is 69 years old today. And then the one I told Casey I was saving for last, it's Paul McCartney's birthday today. Come on! The great Paul McCartney turns 83 years old. What did you get me, Presby? I didn't get you squat. What?! You...

In case you haven't realized, all you do is a radio show. I'm a Beatle! He's so hot-tempered. I'm a dime! Yeah, you never know when you're going to cross him. The nicest guy one second, and then the Hulk! He's incredible. He's absolutely amazing. I, from time to time, marvel on just the tone and sound of his voice alone. I mean, listen to this. And this song is just perfect.

Baby, I'm amazed.

More than likely, Pierre's going to do a workforce back. And isn't it his annual tradition when on his birthday he goes to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse? Yes.

Bloody. He gets a tomahawk and he's like bloody. I want his mooing. So happy 83rd of Paul McCartney. All right, let's see if we can get an answer to the stupid question. What character was invented to respond to questions from gold medal flower customers? And we are going to go to Joe, see if he happens to know the answer to that. Yo, Joe, good morning, buddy.

Good morning. All right, Joe, what character was invented to respond to questions from gold medal flower customers? I'm going to go with Betty Crocker. I'm going to go. You're right. Yeah. Hold on.

We're going to set you up with a four-pack of grandstand tickets to the Auto Trader Echo Park Automotive 400 NASCAR Cup Series race Sunday, July 20th at Dover Motor Speedway. And NASCAR returns to Dover Motor Speedway July 18th through the 20th. You can see NASCAR's best drivers race at speeds of up to 200 miles an hour and an amazing fan zone. And more, you can get tickets at DoverMotorSpeedway.com. All right, we're going to begin with this story. An actor named Derek Dixon.

is suing Tyler Perry for $260 million, alleging sexual harassment, assault, and retaliation during his time working on Perry's shows The Oval and Ruthless. Nixon claims Perry initially promised him a career advancement and creative opportunities, but later subjected him to escalating sexual harassment when Nixon did not reciprocate Perry's advances.

Dixon alleges that Perry sexually assaulted him multiple times, including at Perry's home and during a cast trip to the Bahamas. The complaint claims Perry warned Dixon that his character would be killed off if he didn't comply, and Dixon's character was indeed shot at the end of his first season. Dixon says that Perry's team later offered him a raise and the chance to produce his own show as an attempt to keep him involved. Perry's attorney dismissed the allegations, calling them fabricated.

Scurrilous. And scurrilous. You won't accept these allegations. They're ridiculous and scurrilous. And Dixon, he called Dixon someone trying to, quote, set up a scam. I'm just curious. Was scurrilous in your copy there that you're reading? No. Okay. It was added. Dixon for effect. Yeah, and we need that. We need a scurrilous effect.

Dixon claims to have suffered from severe mental health issues, including PTSD, as a result of the alleged abuse. And many other letters. He is the...

Not just PSTD. PTSD. PSTD. No, he is seeking a jury trial and $260 million in damages. So I wonder what the story is here. You take these things on face value. And, I mean, the character was killed off, but that is not... Maybe he was mad that

The character was killed off. Yeah. But he was also offered an opportunity. I think just judging on the copy that you were reading, Preston, it sounds like he was killed off but also killed off perhaps so that he could – like if he wasn't – if that character wasn't killed off, then he would be stuck doing that. And it said he had some opportunities to advance his career in other ways.

I think maybe Tyler killed the character off to help him further his career. It said in the copy there. I don't know. It's saying the opposite, so I don't know. All right. Jason Segel is officially off the market. Sources spilled to the Daily Mail that the How I Met Your Mother star apparently popped the question to dancer and actress Kayla Radomski in the

Dreamy Rose Garden at the Huntington Library in California. I love you. The couple, who have been together for two years, reportedly followed up an emotional moment with a private dinner in the Rose Garden to celebrate. Your vows were scurrilous and unsubstantiated. Oh, wait. Wrong story.

Radomski is known for previously being one of Taylor Swift's backup dancers. And she actually finished fourth on So You Think He Can Dance. Who the hell are you?

While Siegel has kept their relationship private over the years, Radomski proudly showed her love for Siegel in some key social media posts. She most recently cheered the shrinking star's first Golden Globes nomination, saying, I'm beyond proud of you and cannot wait to see all that is ahead.

I love you beyond words. That's cool. I kind of thought he would keep working the Bachelor thing for a long time. He seemed to have that going, but he found someone special. Found his gal. The two made their red carpet debut at the 2024 Golden Globes. Tom Cruise, Dolly Parton, Debbie Allen, and Wynne Thomas.

are all set to receive honorary Academy Awards at the 2025 Governor's Awards. Wow. Cruz, Allen, and Thomas are getting Academy Honorary Awards. And Parton, meanwhile, will be given the Gene Hirschlot Humanitarian Award. So Cruz and Parton worked on 8 to 3 together. 8 to 3? Yeah, which was the sequel. To 9 to 5. Wow.

Tom, he's never won? I was about to ask that question. He's been nominated for Born on the Fourth of July. Jeremy Guire. Rain Man, perhaps. Was he nominated for Magnolia? Yeah.

He should have been. He should have been. He had some amazing performance. He was incredible in that. Best supporting, yeah. Okay. What about Top Gun? He was probably... Probably. That scene... Best picture. The crying... Well, from Top Gun? Yeah. No. Oh, Maverick. Yes. Okay. Sorry. So, yeah, that scene where his dad is dying, Jason Robards, in Magnolia, it just came up because I follow a couple of movie highlight accounts on Instagram, and that scene came up, man. I have forgotten. Yeah.

How incredibly powerful he was in that. He's good. It's just amazing. Oh, he's good. It's great that he's getting at least an honorary award.

academy award for this so uh academy president janet yang praised crews for his incredible commitment to our filmmaking community uh pardon for her unwavering dedication to charitable efforts and alan as a trailblazing choreographer and actor and thomas for their visionary eye and mastery of his craft in a statement in the 16th annual governor's awards which will take place uh on november 16th so that'll be coming up later this year

I was really bummed out to see this. Chef Anne Burrell died. The Food Network icon. You guys may not know the name. You would recognize her. She's got this white platinum hair that goes kind of straight up.

Yeah, and she was a dude. She passed away. She, the Food Network icon and longtime host of The Worst Cooks in America, passed yesterday morning at her home in New York. No cause of death has been shared at the time. After a lengthy career in the kitchen, she segued first to teaching, then to television, starting as a sous chef on Iron Chef America, eventually landing her own show, Secrets of a Restaurant Chef, which ran for nine seasons.

She also appeared in shows including Chopped, Chef Wanted, and Food Network Star, most recently competing in House of Knives earlier this year. She's only 55 years old. I have to imagine that Mark Summers, who's on in a bit, might have crossed paths over the years. Maybe, but it was sad to see, and there's no word on why she passed. So sad. So maybe we'll find out in the next few days, but that was just terrible news to see that.

All right. Megan Markle's Confessions of a Female Founder podcast is going on. What? Yeah. So that the Duchess of Sussex can take care of her other business interests. Of course, she explained this on another podcast. Of course. She said that while she's thrilled that so many want a second season of her podcast, she said, I need to focus on my business.

That business includes but is not limited to production of her Netflix series With Love Megan and her popular As Ever brand, along with being a mom to two young children. Today I'm going to make tapioca. As to whether the podcast will return, Markle said, I would love to bring the show back when I am at a different end of life.

end of my founder journey. Mentioning late in the year or even longer than that. What the hell is a founder journey? I'm making tapioca. Maybe that's the journey she's on. She's founding a company and several companies and so she is a founder. Okay, a founder. Alright, well, yay. He just said yay. Alright, yay, yay. After some confusion...

What are we doing? Your founder journey. Oh, okay, gotcha. After some confusion about their newborn child's name, we now know the given name of Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox's, quote, celestial seed. Celestial seed? That's what many people thought the child's name was, which he subsequently denied, and Machine Gun Kelly did. Babe, go get a child. I got some celestial seed in your hair.

Now, however, the musician is coming clean, so he captioned an Instagram video yesterday with Saga Blade Fox Baker. That's...

Saga was a band. Yeah. Saga, Blade, Fox, Sager? No, Fox Baker. Fox Baker. That's the hyphenated last name. Ah, okay. Megan Fox and... Alpha Bravo Charlie. Yeah. Yeah. But Saga Blade is what they're going with. Yeah. So, yeah, whatever. Whatever. Yay. Yay. Saga Blade. Saga Blade.

I'm sorry. It's a tough one. They're such try-hards. You know what I mean? Like Saga Blade. No, you know what it sounds like. Street Fighter. Saga Blade. Saga Yoga Fire. Yeah. It sounds like it would be... Tiger Uppercut. Saga Blade. Tiger Uppercut. Yoga Fire. Tiger Uppercut. Saga Blade. Yoga Flame. Yoga Flame. Tiger Uppercut.

All right, moving on. Now, I can't get out of this entertainment report without mentioning Love Island. Oh, my God, no. During Sunday night's episode of Love Island USA, Paige DeSorbo, who was a guest hosting a challenge for the show as it filmed in Fiji, suddenly exited with no explanation. I literally gasped. And now the reality star is revealing what happened on her Giggly Squad podcast yesterday. Come on.

The world is collapsing. Giggly squad. Get the hell out of here. I understand that she is leaving that show to go to a new show called Love Summer.

So she revealed halfway through the filming, she fell ill. She said, it's a long filming day and we started pretty early. And she said, the sun starts beating down on me pretty aggressively. I'm like an hour and a half into filming. And I'm like, you know what? Real quick, I'm feeling a little bit queasy. So let me take a moment to myself. I'm going home. My tummy hurts. I'm going home. I'm leaving Love Island. I'm going home.

Are you looking at his face when he does that? I'm going home. I'm leaving Love Island. I'm going home. I've known you for almost 30 years. I've never seen you. That's my Love Island face. Are we on YouTube? Yes. All right. Thank you. I'm leaving Love Island. I'm going home.

Can you do that on a job when you're doing a show? Just go, I don't feel so good. I'm going, I'm... I just got a roll call. I'm not going to finish this. I don't feel good. I'm going, I don't know. I don't know. A break shot in the Middle East. Find out about it from someone else. I don't feel good. I'm going, I don't know.

Oh my God. I'm watching you on, they pulled up the YouTube feed. He's right. It's a fun face. She said, no, she said, let me take a moment to myself. I throw up, she said.

And she would eventually end up passing out and exiting stage left, leaving viewers wondering. So apparently that happened at Love Island USA. Is The Misses watching that? No. That's not one of our shows. Love is Blind is the one that she loves. Yes. That's it. All right. A fourth Harold and Kumar movie is in the works with Cal Penn and John Cho expected to return. No word on if Neil Patrick Harris will be back at this time. He's got to be.

He was hilarious in all of them. No deals have been finalized on the cult classic comedy, but the original writer, John Hurwitz and Hayden Schlossberg, are set to direct the next installment. The duo shared in a statement to the Olive River Porter that,

that they are fired up to bring Harold and Kumar back in a return to the unapologetically R-rated smoke-filled chaos that started it all. Every one of them has been good, and I contend that their Christmas movie, the third one, the 3D movie, is one of the absolute best and some of the best 3D you'll ever see. Neil Patrick Harris is only in... He's in all of them. Okay, he is in all of them. In the second one, he gets Beverly D'Angelo's running a brothel and shoots him and he comes running out and gets shot in the back. That's right.

Was that Harold and Kumar escape from Guantanamo Bay? Yes. Okay. So, yeah, they're looking to do this. And no word yet as to when it's happening, but they've got the two mains on board for it. So we'll see when that rolls out. Land of the Lost is apparently getting a reboot set to come to Netflix.

The reboot is said to be in the early stages of development at this time, and the show starred Spencer Milligan as Rick Marshall, who is transported back in time to the prehistoric era along with his son and daughter, Will and Holly. Yeah. They deal with dinosaurs, lizard men, or sleestacks, and...

more. Land of the Lost also got the movie treatment in 2009. It was a comedy with Will Ferrell, Danny McBride. Which I like. And others. And the OG original version was a Saturday morning TV show in the 70s. Which I loved. And it built a large cult following. Yes, I was a fan of that as well. And the thing is, it was just a routine expedition, Preston. Yep. But it was the greatest earthquake ever known. Ever known.

They folded in all sorts of science fiction. Yeah. They did, like, wormhole stuff and multiverses and stuff. They were doing all that stuff on Saturday morning kid shows. All right. So with this, would you prefer something that was, like, obviously super updated or would you want something retro? Retro. You know what? I would take it as just do a riff on what they did and make it a...

really go hardcore on the sci-fi and the folding of all that stuff together. I'd say current day. But, you know, yeah, and update that version of it. But, yeah, with the effects now, I mean, it was so basic in what they used. Casey, they had this time travel thing with these crystals that you would move around. And some of the sea stacks talked and were very much like this, and the other ones were like...

Yeah, the effects were just really lame, but it was actually pretty good storytelling. It was very good storytelling. Listen, at that time, I didn't care that the effects were lame. I got scared. You know what I mean? I was like, oh my God, monsters! They had a T-Rex that was, there was one that they, it sort of was a quasi-pet. Yeah. Would still kill him, but they treated him as, yeah. Oh, that's right.

What was the name of that? Was that Gimpy or Gumpy? That is a good question. It might be Gumpy, Steve. Something like that. I don't think that's it, but similar. All right. Nick is going to look up name of dinosaur, of the dinosaur pet on Land of the Lost. Now I need to know this. It was a T-Rex, Nick. Dopey. Dopey! There you go. All right.

Let's see. What else do we have here? The upcoming NCIS spinoff, NCIS Tony and Ziva, is officially set to premiere on September 4th. The name of the show is NCIS Tony and Ziva? Yeah, that's correct. Tony and Ziva. Yep. The debut will be a big one as the series will kick off with three episodes dropping on Paramount Plus and new episodes dropping on Thursdays each week until the season finale.

on October 23rd. It is the first NCIS series that will not air on CBS, though it's always possible they may get a special airing on the network at some point. So is this a popular character on the show? Two of them. Oh, Tony and... Tony and Ziva. I'm sorry. Yeah, so there was always...

sexual tension between these two. I see. I love the gal who plays Ziva. Cote de Pablo is her name. She's a beautiful woman and a talented singer too, actually. But they said in a joint statement, she and Michael Weatherly, who plays Tony, said, we're beyond excited to finally share Tony and Ziva's next chapter with incredible fans around the world who never stopped believing that this day would come. Don't stop believing, right? Don't stop, yep.

Let me see. There was one other thing.

that I wanted to mention. Oh, yeah, Stanley Tucci's Tucci in Italy is being brought back for a second season. Nat Geo has announced a doc series. We'll get a five-episode sophomore season. In the second season, Tucci will venture for the first time to Le Marche while revisiting Sicily, Veneto, Campania, and Sardinia. The actor and foodie will meet local chefs, historians, farmers, winemakers, and artisans to discuss

Uncover the lesser known culinary rituals that define each region. Last month, season one of the series won at the Critics' Choice Reel TV Awards for Best Limited Series. You know what I'd love to do? Start a series with him. Similar approach to what he's doing with this, but have him go to popular truck stops. Okay. Maybe we can try those out and see what kind of... I'm at a place called Stucky's. Yeah, cuisine. We'll see. All right, we're ready for the clip, so here we go.

On Miss Pat Settles It, the outspoken comedian rules on real cases with help from a jury of friends, family, and guest comics. And here, Miss Pat talks about what makes her show stand out. Here we go. I truly believe I created a space for people who don't like going to court, but like coming to my court. So I tell people all the time, you're going to love coming to court with me. Because it's funny, nobody go to jail, you might lose a little bit, I'm probably going to curse you out. But it's all in love. Damn!

New episode of Miss Pat settles at airs tonight. That's on BET. And I, you know, I just want to mention this because I was really, I was trying hard to get her on the show this week and just scheduling wise it didn't. Miss Pat? Yeah. Yeah, we love her. It didn't work out, but she's got a show coming up at the Tropicana this weekend, so I wanted to promote that. We love Miss Pat. Yeah. We've met her on a number of times. She's always great. Unfortunately, just our, our, our,

calendars weren't syncing up and so this was a great opportunity for me to uh promote the event that she's got going on in atlantic city this weekend cool all right we have another clip to play castle impossible follows daphne and ian as they renovate a 500 year old castle in france that she unexpectedly inherited from her grandfather and here the couple talk about how the magic of television makes the project look simple for me the part that's the most challenging is just the scale i

It's just everything is huge. And so we're like, okay, let's do a little project. And then we're like, okay, this little project is huge. Yeah, you gotta love the editors. There's so much blood, sweat, and tears in between that hour. The season finale of Castle Impossible is available now on HGTV. And the man who yelled shut the F up will be joining us in just a few minutes. There we go. Oh.

Okay. Before we head into break, I would like to circle back to two quick things. Okay, please. The first is, Steve, we were slightly off. Grumpy was the T-Rex. Dopey was the Brontosaurus. There we go. So you were right that there was a T-Rex, but we got that name wrong. And then a listener pointed this out, and I just have to say this publicly. Bill Lambeer of the Detroit Pistons played a sleaze stack when he was a young kid on the series Land of the Lost. Stop.

That's great. Before he went to Notre Dame. Do you see how much we draw from Land of the Lost? That was a fact that I had no idea existed. I looked it up. In fact, he was once a sleaze stack on Land of the Lost. Grumpy and Dopey. Grumpy and Dopey were the two dinosaurs and Bill Lambert was a sleaze stack.

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Now, back with more of the Preston and Steve Show podcast. All right, thank you very much, Marissa. Our guest, last time we spoke to him was back in December. He came in to tell us about Hanukkah on the rocks on the Hallmark Channel. Which I love. We all loved, and we would like to welcome our annual visit with our very good friend, Mr. Mark Summers. Hey, how's everybody? Nice to be back here. I called Marissa, and I said, I have nothing to talk about, but if you need somebody to fill in for you...

She's got the best pitch she's ever had. Sure. You don't sugarcoat, which is what we love about you. And we also determined earlier that we know you come in, obviously, just to visit friends and so on and so forth. But you also get your medical checkup. If we can combine it,

an on-air live event next time, perhaps. You know, get the full battery of tests done here live. It might be kind of interesting. It works out good. And because I do the show, I can write this trip off. True, true. There you go. That's the businessman. Always, man.

If I may jump in quickly to that point. Yes, sir. And we asked about this. You're in the Hallmark realm now and holiday movies. And you said this was something that you found very interesting and enjoyable as an actor. And never done before. And never done before. Now are other things in the queue like this? Are you doing another movie? Have you been offered? Last year was the busiest year of my career. Okay. I did six months off Broadway doing the one man show. Right. Then I did the Hallmark movie.

That wrapped up January 1. Right. The phone has not rung at all. Really? Really? Yeah, it's just crazy. I just did my first project here in June. It's a nature movie that's getting released in about four to six weeks called Wild Rescue. And they asked me to do the narration, which I had never done before in my entire life. You've never done VO work? Ever. Tried, tried, tried. Could never get into that private club.

And these people called me up and said, would you be interested in doing this? I said, I've never done it before, but if you want to give it a shot... And I had to be directed because...

I'm a broadcaster. I'm an announcer. And I want to say, you know, and it's a nature movie about animals that are in the wild and how when there's a fire, they get hurt and people come and protect them. And, you know, you can't go, and then the animal comes in and somebody comes in and protects. And they said, no, you know, more. And so I had a great gentleman, Ian Shye, who was the director, who gave me directions.

The photographer. Yes. We had him on because of you. You guys were here together. We did a shark special for Discovery several years ago. He's incredible. He's amazing when he shoots. And so he invited me to do this, and I thought it was going to take days. We shot it in about an hour and a half. Holy hell. It blew me away. Sometimes it can take days if you're doing an extensive... That's what I thought. You know, but I mean, so you must have...

You must have ripped right through it. Pretty much. So that's coming out soon. So I'll be out doing some promotion for that. But other than that, it's been quiet. I've been going to see old show business this summer. Went to see Tom Jones. Oh, my God. That is a bucket list show for me. He was brilliant. He sounds as good or better than ever.

What is he in his 80s? He's 85. Holy hell. He's incredible. I follow him on Instagram and he posts videos of him in this day and age singing and I'd share them with Casey sometime. I'm like, look at this guy. Look at what this guy does. It's ridiculous. Yeah. What to see? What kind of underwear gets thrown up on stage now? People don't have the arms to throw it that far. I think Alice and I were the youngest people in the audience. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. But

People need to understand, he was sex personified. You go back and look. When he did the Tom Jones show on ABC, everybody, Little Richard, I mean, you name it. Everybody who's... I have it on digital. And brilliant performers and some of the best stuff you've ever seen. Then I went to see James Taylor, who I've seen probably 20 times. He's amazing. He's amazing still. It's fun to go watch...

old school performers. Yeah. And so that's been fun and just been taking my walks. You know, I do five to seven miles a day and keeps me in shape. Now, I can't see you making the full jump to...

retirement. You're too engaged. So is this just the quiet before the storm? Have you signed for Gladiator 3? What are we looking at? I've had conversations with Hallmark about possibly doing another movie, but so far nothing. But the last one didn't start until September of last year. So that could happen, I suppose. You never know when the phone's going to ring, I guess.

But it's just been a quiet year, and it's hard to deal with. I've been busy for 50 years. Yeah. So how does it impact? What do you find yourself? Depression. Oh, Steve, it's called depression. Yes, yes. Listen, Mark and I had an interesting discussion. He reached out when he found out the news about Kathy, and we had a discussion about that. But it led into...

and not that I want to get too crazy serious right now, but how the television and entertainment industry is really in a weird place right now. Horrible. We have an absolute glut of shows and things to watch to occupy our time. But you were telling me that, and I've seen this stuff as well, writers and a bunch of people are not finding work. No, no. There is not a lot of work out there. I saw something yesterday as well on social media about the fact that they are saying

still building sound stages and studios in Los Angeles. Tell them why. Even though, because they are zoned, these areas are zoned for this specifically. Right. And if they don't build on them, something happens within the... It returns back to the...

To the state, or I'm not sure how it works out. But nonetheless, they're building these and they're not getting used. No, not getting used. Because it's not work. Right now, it's cheaper. This is what people are doing. To put 30 people in an airplane, fly them to Dublin, Ireland, put them up for three weeks and bring them back. And it's less expensive to do that than it is to shoot in California. Wow. So they killed it. They killed it. The unions have destroyed, and I'm in unions, left and right. But it's gotten out of control.

And they're shooting in Mexico City. They're shooting in New Zealand. Yeah. They're shooting in Amsterdam. They're not shooting in Los Angeles, California. Where did you shoot the Hanukkah movie? In Canada. Canada. Yeah. Was it Vancouver? No, we shot in Winnipeg. Wow. Where there's no good restaurants. But yeah, I mean, it was a fun experience. But-

And Canada pays Hallmark to come up there and do these things. So I was reading a story about some industry, a well-known screenwriter, so well-known I can't remember his name. But anyway, he was opining on the fact that you came out of COVID, you came down out of the shutdowns, and then you went right into a strike. And the effect was just a one-two punch from hell. And people are really accomplished people.

artists are not getting work. Well, no, look, Food Network, you know, laid off a boatload of people. Right, right. You know, and thank heavens, you know, Bobby Flay and Guy, they seem to have a million shows. Sad that Ann Burrell passed away yesterday. Yeah. And a million phone calls trying to figure out what happened. Nobody knows yet, but it

55. Yes. That's pretty scary. Conjecture. I mean, you guys have had to cross paths. Oh, many times. I've had many interesting evenings with Ann Burrell. Trust me. Yeah, yeah. She liked to have fun. She loved how to party and drink and couldn't have been a nicer human in the world. And so I was in shock when that one popped up. And so everything's different, you know? It's just not happening like it used to. My son, unfortunately, who's one of the top exec producers at Food Network, hasn't worked in eight months.

Wow. He did all of Alex Gurn and Shelly's stuff. He produced Iron Chef. I mean, he's done everything over there. There's no work.

Wow. Yeah. Listen, I think things are, they recalibrate and you live long enough and you know things are cyclical. Oh, yeah. I think we are going to see. That's why, like, you know, we've talked about AI countless times on the show and about how it's going to impact. But I think there's also ways that it can be utilized. But, you know, it's funny too. Sometimes what happens, Mark, is these things start to happen and you begin to get a re-appreciation of

And we've talked about this and I don't want to walk on this ground again because we've hit it so many times on the show. But you get a reappreciation of the things that sort of got everything to the dance. Like you're talking about older entertainers that know how to command a stage or the people that know how to do it.

Location shots as opposed to standing in front of the volume, a wall that projects a picture of where you're supposed to be. Real practical effects as opposed to CGI. Humans doing stunts instead of CGI humans. And people start to become aware and appreciate the difference. And I think everything – like the everything –

As they say, old is new again. I think we're entering into that, you know? 1973, when I moved to Los Angeles, I wanted to be a game show host. That was something you could actually do. Right. No more. Yeah. You have to be famous to even get on television these days, number one. And number two, can you imagine, why would you go to...

UCLA and get a degree in radio and television. You don't need it. It's antiquated when you have 14-year-olds taking their phones and shooting out of the bedroom making $1.8 million a month. Our interns just had a heart attack in the other room. It's a different world.

world. Yeah, you're right. And so that pattern of I'm going to do this, I'm going to pay my dues, I had it mapped out. I was going to start at the Magic Castle. I was going to become a regular at the Comedy Store. Then I was going to do warm-ups, you know? And I landed in L.A. in 1973 and Double Dare didn't happen until 13 years later. I paid my dues. Mm-hmm.

You can't do that now. If you're a movie star, you get offered to host an ABC one-hour game show once a week for more money than I ever made in my entire life. But you are a survivor. And think about there were movies made. Singing in the Rain was made about the move from silent films to talkies. And so these tectonic shifts occur. And the people who can do what they do adapt. Do you feel that you...

Do you see yourself, again, not to get dour, but do you see yourself adapting and writing this out? It's hard for me. Well, I don't know. You know, the word influencer has changed our industry tremendously. But you were influencing...

decades ago yeah but it's not what it was called yeah and there are 25 year old you know young ladies who are making bazillions of dollars as podcasters in a world that i can't you know listen a friend of mine just got a job on a show called mr beast i didn't know who mr beast right yeah i googled the hell out of him and this guy kicks ass and takes names and has the highest viewing audience in the

I just went over to the John Mulaney show. Yeah, yeah. And Richard Kind is a very good friend of mine. And when I got there, he said...

This show is not for me. I have no idea why I'm here. Nothing makes sense to me. And, you know, he's doing spectacular. But he's 65. I'm going to be 74. It's like, it's hard to relate. It just is. I try, but at some point it doesn't make any sense to me. Are you saying that perhaps a boob job might be in the works for you? Your TikTok is going to make that announcement. I didn't know you found out. You talk about voice work and

I don't know if this is true or not. Did you ever, were you the announcer for Joker's Wild for a while? That's a rumor that's been going on for years on social media. I was the warm-up guy. The warm-up guy. But I never announced. I did announce a game show called Bruce Forsythe's Hot Streak on ABC. Whoa. It lasted, I think my bar mitzvah was longer than that show. I don't remember that one. Yeah, nobody does.

Joker's Bob, was that Wayne Martin? No. No, that was Jack Barry. Jack Barry. First guy to hire me in L.A. and the first guy to fire me in L.A. No, really? There was a whole legion talking about of actual subsect of...

revered game show hosts. Yep. Only game shows. That's what they did. That's all they did. Yeah. Were you supposed to be Letterman's announcer? Yeah. Boy, how'd you know that? Well, the only reason I know it is because I love Letterman almost as much as I love you, Mark. And you posted a photo with him not that long ago. And I commented on it. And two comments down, somebody says, weren't you supposed to be his original announcer full circle here? So, A, yes.

How'd you end up getting that pic with Dave? And B, what's the story about being the announcer? How'd I get the pic with Dave? There's a gentleman, Dan Cashman, who has hosted a local talk show in Bangor, Maine for the last 15 years. And Dave was a guest. Well, Dan...

just idolized Dave. He said to me, can you get him here? And I said, Dave doesn't do anything anymore. But I was able to make some phone calls and got Dave to show up. Wow. You made that happen? Yeah. And that was one of his last guests. Yes, it was his last guest on the show. Yeah. And Dave did his homework.

He flew himself to Bangor, Maine. It was a secret that nobody knew about. Nobody knew he was there. Me and Dan and three people on the show. The executive producer knew. Knew, and that was it. And the gentleman who's the exec producer of The View was a good friend of mine and worked with Dave, and so I called him. And it was a whole thing, and it took months.

But Dave flew himself there, did his homework, wrote some very funny material when he showed up there. And so, yeah, we hadn't seen each other in a while. And so he said, I forget, are you married? I said, yeah, 51 years. And he said, oh, my God. He said, do you have kids? I said, I have a 44 and a 42-year-old. He said, I don't.

I got to sit down. He was like blown away. But yes, here was the deal. I started at a comedy store in 76 as a regular. Dave was there right before. We're both from Indianapolis. Okay, so there was that tie. We used to play racquetball together. I knew him fairly well. And so I was going through a down period and I called him up when he got the first late night show. And I asked to be the announcer. And he said...

yeah we were going to do it and i wanted to be on camera he said we're not doing that we're not doing the mcmahon thing but if i wanted to do the voice and his exec producer at the time i was supposed to make a deal and offered me the worst deal in the history of the world 800 a week and on not a full deal we're on the down weeks they weren't going to pay me and you know at the time i was doing warm up making a lot more money than 800 bucks a week and so the exec producer wouldn't

with me and the agent. So I flew to New York to meet with Dave, and the exec producer wouldn't let me meet with Dave. And so I wrote Dave a letter, and Dave, which I think I still have on my phone, wrote me a letter back, typed it, apologizing, saying, I had no idea you were in the studio, and all that kind of stuff. And it just was kind of a big mistake on 17 different versions. So yeah. It happens. It happens a lot. It happens a lot.

So when you were working at the Comedy Store and your contemporaries were Letterman, I assume Robin Williams. Yeah, Jay Leno, Robin, yeah. Shanling. Yeah, and of those friendships forged like Letterman, did others parlay into things or was it just a fraternal thing that you worked in? I mean, were you ever called upon or was there ever any...

missed opportunities that occurred because of the associations. Well, Dave and Jay were superstars when I was just getting there. I got you. Nicest humans in the world. They would sit out in front of the store and just interact and always very, very kind. I just had Jay on my podcast and a week later he called me up to fill in for a gig for him. I've never had a phone call from Jay to say, could you fill in for me? Wow.

There's something called the Jack Webb Awards. Does anybody in the room know who Jack Webb is? Jack Webb from Drag Race? Yeah, yeah. And I couldn't do it, unfortunately, but I was impressed that Jay actually called me. Jack Webb is also the star of one of my favorite movies. Which is? The D.I. I didn't even know what that is. He plays a...

Before Lee Ermey was the drill instructor, Jack Webb played that character for a movie. You know, as buttoned down as you could be. Yeah, it's the DI. It's a great movie. May I ask who wins the Jack Webb Awards? I didn't get enough time to even ask him what that awards were about. I'm still in shock that there are a Jack Webb Awards. But they do exist.

I'm trying to find these letters from Letterman so I can read it to you, actually. But, yeah, it's an interesting career. And I took, like, Shanling was doing warm-ups before I was doing warm-ups, or maybe about the same time. And he was doing them on a show called Alice. Yeah, Alice. We just had Cherry O'Terry. Oh, did you? And she was talking about Linda. Yeah. So, yeah.

I was doing Soap, which was the hottest show at the time. And now think about that. When I was doing the warm-up on Soap, to the studio next to me, Saget was doing Bosom Buddies. And to the left of me, Barney Miller was recording and Letterman was doing the warm-ups. Wow. You had like a murderer's row of people doing warm-ups for major sitcoms. It's so true. And so it was so funny.

The exec producers of Alice, Madeline Davis and Bob Carroll Jr., were the original writers on I Love Lucy. Right. And if you look at every Alice episode, everything was a rerun of I Love Lucy. It was not the most creative show in the world. Somehow it did well. Right. But they got tired of Shanling. And I replaced Gary Shanling doing the warm-ups. For eight years, I did them on Alice. Right.

Uh, so that was sort of interesting. A friend of mine, uh, Joey Cola is, um, a comedian that I came up through the ranks with. He got on that warmup train. He did it for Rosie O'Donnell's talk show. He currently does it for Drew Barrymore. Uh, and, um,

You lock and load if you're a comedian. That's good money, correct? Well, back in the day when I was doing it, it was not bad. Just not bad. Well, let's see. Let me think about this. Tuesdays, I did Alice. Okay. I got $800 a night to do Alice back in 19- God knows what it was, 80, 81, 82. Right. Yeah.

Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I did a show called Our Magazine, a talk show with Gary Collins. Yes. I did Wednesday, Thursday, and first show Friday. We did two a day. But Friday night, I was working on soaps. I couldn't do Friday night. Who filled in for me on Friday night on Our Magazine? Oh.

Oh, it's going to be a biggie, right? Jerry Seinfeld. Oh my God. Seinfeld film for me on that. And then on weekends, I did game shows. Yeah. And also on Friday nights. So I did Soap. Soap got canceled. I did Webster. Webster got canceled. I did What's Happening Now. And then, um, um,

I did game shows, a thing called Anything for Money with Fred Travolina as the host. So I was working six days a week. Fred Travolina. Yeah. Back in the day, I was making three, four thousand bucks a week when that actually meant something. Yes. You know. That's phenomenal. Yeah. So that was great. And then...

I auditioned for Double Dare in July of 86 and we went on the air in October of 86 and that changed my life. Were you producing as well on Double Dare? I was. Yeah. Yeah. And every reincarnation after that, I produced as well. Oh, wow. Wow, wow, wow. Look at you. I mean, you got a couple more Broadway shows in you, I think. I would love to. Yeah. That was fun. Because you didn't... I mean, there's a whole... You...

Did you open for Bob Hope at any point? I never did. I worked with Mr. Hope at one point because I worked on everything over at NBC and CBS and ABC. It was fun to be a part of that old show business stuff. Right, yeah. It really was. And yes, sir. I was just going to say real quick, we just got this in. William Shatner won the Jack Webb Award. Oh, for what? It is the Los Angeles Police Museum. There you go. Jack Webb Award. Well, that makes sense because of all the years at Dragnet. That is correct. Jack Webb also produced Adam-12.

Okay. Yeah. Didn't he make an appearance, a cameo, in the Tom Hanks Dragnet movie? I believe he did, yeah. Jack Webb showed up in that. I thought he was dead by then. No, the other guy did. Oh, the other guy. Harry Morgan. Harry Morgan. Harry Morgan. Who did more television things than you could ever imagine. Hold on. I'm going to be able to pull this Letterman thing in two seconds. But...

Jack Webb played everything the same, didn't he? Oh, yes. He was not a Meryl Streep kind of talent. No, no. But he was, if you wanted the really buttoned down, going to put you in your place kind of actor, it was Jack Webb. He was. You know, Dragnet was, you know, that came out. He was up for consideration for La Cage Aux Folles. Oh, I'm sorry he didn't get that part. Doggone it. That's unbelievable. Yeah.

Oh, man, oh, man, oh, man. You still looking for the landline? I know where it is. You know, it's a tap dance for a few minutes. Have you looked under L? No. You know, I'm an old guy. It doesn't work that way on my phone. Here, I found it. Oh, yeah, it's a landline. Here we go.

This is April 28, 1982. Wow. Dear Mark, this is on NBC Stationery. Just received your letter. I can't tell you how sorry I am that you are upset. I can only apologize this by saying that I honestly didn't know you were coming to New York or even that you were going to be in the studio. If Barry, the exec producer at the time, mentioned it to me, I can only assume that it did not sink in. I hope you don't honestly believe that I would deliberately try to snub you. Again, I can only plead innocent.

ignorance and assure you that I am truly sorry that you're upset. Continue good luck. Sorry again, Dave Letterman. Wow. There you go. Yeah, so a very classy thing. Do you have that framed anywhere? I do have it framed. Okay, of course. A few years ago, you were telling us you were cleaning out your stuff. Yes. The things that you were collecting. You'd come across some really great photos and

press headshots and things along those lines. I'm sure that was in there. I have it permaplagged. That kind of deal. I used to hang up that stuff in an office that I used to have. What was the wildest discovery you came across? Because you seem to be someone who does cherish

the artifacts from your life. Yeah, well, that was kind of a fun thing to have when you walk down memory lane and think of all the things it takes to get here. Gosh, a lot of people have apologized to me. I don't know. It's such a weird industry, and there's no rhyme or reason to any of it. If you were growing up and saying, I'm going to have the top radio show in a major market for 25 plus years. Laughable. You can't predict that stuff anymore, and it doesn't exist that much. And we provide every evidence of why it is laughable anywhere.

every day. But I would say this, you're right. But I mean, so to your point, do you see yourself more as throughout life a trapeze artist just grabbing for ropes? Is any of your planning? No. Because I always love the Lennon quote, you know,

life is what happens while you're busy making other plans. Yeah. Yeah, and it seems to be true. It is. You know, I came to L.A. in 1973 because I thought Johnny was going to retire and I was going to take over the night show. What I didn't know is about 100 other guys felt the same thing. Yes, Nick.

Well, you can make a career. I mean, going back to this Danny Cashman story with Letterman, like, I didn't know who Danny Cashman was, right? But he'd been doing it forever in Maine and had this dedicated audience, and somehow Letterman knew who he was. And the only reason I ever became aware of Danny Cashman was because on his last show, Letterman did it. But my point is that, like, Danny Cashman found a niche that worked for him, and he did it for a really long time successfully. So I guess if there's anything to be gleaned from this is that if you –

If you still provide good content and you're consistent and you find an audience that embraces you and appreciates you, you can make a career out of it. Here was the coolest thing. At the end of the night, we're in Letterman's dressing room and I'm standing with Dan Cashman and Dave's saying, are you sure you want to retire? Does this make any sense? Is there any way? And he goes, well, I've got to do it now. And he said...

You're going to want to come back. And when you do, call me. I think I can help you. And the fact that Dave said that was very impressive. That's pretty wild. Because obviously Dan impressed Dave enough to do that. Yeah. Which is pretty cool. So I don't know. Show business is bizarre. It is. I wouldn't recommend...

Anybody to go into it. Unless you have nerves of steel or money in the bank or rich parents or something, you know. Yeah. It's a leap of faith. It can be. Well, you know, my first apartment in L.A. was $125 a month. Think about that. It's probably up to $200 now. Yeah.

At least that, you know. Well, listen, if that Mark Summers Love Island comes through, that's your ticket right there. That's your ticket, huh? All right, well, listen, my friend, we've got to wrap up, but it is wonderful to see you as always. Always good to see you guys. Thank you for your annual visit, and let us know when anything's coming up, all right? Anything. I appreciate it. Love it. Thank you so much. Mark Summers, everybody. Our good friend. We're going to take a quick break. We'll come back in a moment. We go live on Fox. Good day when we return. Stay there.

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at WMMR.com. So go ahead, and if you don't have a link to our YouTube account, just text the word YouTube to 610-660-9333 and send me a link. Musicians, we're going. Hey! Morning! I didn't realize until this morning it's National Splurge Day, so we want to know what

What would you splurge on, Preston? What's your thing? Splurge on. You know what? Me and my family, we like to splurge on our good meals, like going out and getting some really good food at one of our favorite restaurants. So when we want to say, hey, let's do something for ourselves, we'll book a reservation at a really good restaurant. I guess that is a splurge. Yeah, I think so. I always think a splurge is like buying yourself something that's a little bit like...

You know, I'm unnecessary. We were talking about this. It's like getting this cocktail drum kit that you bought. Yes. That would be a splurge. Yeah. For me, it's my Lamborghini. Yeah. Didn't need it? No, no. Oh. No, no, no, no. But you know what I do? I buy...

You're going to laugh. Preston, what is it? It's action figures. Action Batman figures. And yes, I'm an old man who loves Batman and I buy figures that look like Batman. You have toys right next to you. You want to show one on screen? I mean, this isn't Batman. You keep the Batman stuff in the office. But, oh, here's Deadpool. Look at that. And here's another one. And I'll tell you what I used to do, guys, is I would go into the stores that sold them and I'd say, my son is this thing Godzilla. Yeah.

Do you know what it is? Do you have it? I guess he'll get it for his birthday and then run out to the car, open up the box and go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Steve...

What is this fascination? Do you want to be a superhero or something? I am a superhero, Mike. I'm a radio man. No, you know what? I just have always loved this stuff and there's something about it. Dr. Mike gets it. We talk many times about this. There's

Something about tactile, being able to touch something that was something that you loved as a kid. And it's part of that collecting mentality. Do you guys know about what Dr. Mike collects at his home? Are you aware of this? Oh, he has... Is it...

Well, that, but he has actual animatronic statues of like serial killers and horror. Monsters. Yeah, monsters. It's crazy. Dr. Eddie Frankenstein, Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, all laid out. Dr. Mike Sirigliano? Yes. Love ya. I have them as well. He's given some to me. It's crazy, but I love it. Life-size animals.

We got to go. What? Yeah, right. Ask him. I'm afraid of him. No wonder he hasn't invited us over. Does he do prostate exams on him? Yes. Yes. And as has removed a few just for practice. That's why Freddy Krueger walks a little weird. But what do you guys collect? What do you guys splurge on?

I'm just collecting wrinkles at this point. I do like glass art. Glass art. We call those bongs, Mike. It's a cocktail glasses. I used to love collecting Archie comic books when I was younger. I loved Archie. Are you kidding? You were an Archie fan? No. Yes. Steve's Alley probably. That's it.

Who did you favor of Betty and Veronica? Oh, of course I'm team Betty. She was a girl next door. I would not have thought Alex Holly was an Archie fan. Is Mark Summers there today? He was. He just left. We spent a nice long chat with him a few minutes ago. You want us to send him your way? He told us that both you and he were going to a bong store later on to get some glass art.

Yeah, if you could text him and tell him to come over. Yeah, I would do that right now. Yeah, for sure. All right, thank you. All right, take care, guys. We'll see you later. Marissa, we'll have to do that, right? Let him know that, yeah, let Mark know to go over and visit those guys. They want to have him on. I think he was having dinner with Mike last night. Oh, okay. I think this was all maybe planned.

plan. I got you. Well, let's take a look at traffic and see what's happening. Marissa, what you got for us? All right, guys, we are jammed from the Boulevard southbound from Fox Street out to the Schuylkill Expressway. Then on 676 Vine Street Expressway westbound from 95 to 76. 76 eastbound from Montgomery out to Vine westbound from Bear Avenue out to South Street as well as City Avenue out to Gladwin. 95 southbound between the Betsy Ross Bridge and Cotman Avenue due to road work.

Back in New Jersey, in Camden, we have an accident on 295. It is northbound right before Route 70. We're jammed back to exit 28. And on Route 29, we're jammed up from 295 out to Warren Street. This traffic report is brought to you by Whole Foods Market.

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The man tested negative for any alcohol. He was cited on the spot for driving down the monument in Rome's historic center. Did they test him for stupidity? Police did not identify the driver or say if the car was his. They also did not say whether he was using a navigation system or not. The car was later removed by firefighters using a crane. Police did not respond to requests for more details about the accident. One of Rome's most recognizable monuments, the Spanish Steps, have never been intended for motor vehicles.

Although some thrill seekers have tried their luck. A Saudi man was charged with aggravated damage to cultural heritage after a surveillance camera recorded him driving a rented Maserati down the 135 steps in 2022. Now, the Spanish steps takes their name from the Spanish embassy to the Holy See in the nearby square. Fame background of numerous films. They were built in the 1720s. So there were a couple of movies where they did drive down those steps, but they had to make special arrangements.

and arrangements and all that stuff. A man who was booked into Salt Lake County Jail Saturday after police said that he assaulted a victim claimed that they were a werewolf. Oh, that he was a werewolf? No, no, the person he was assaulting. He was assaulting werewolves. Yes, exactly. Well, then he's doing the public a service. Jose...

Manuel Perez was booked on one felony count of aggravated robbery. Let him out. He's a werewolf hunter. The investigation began after they received multiple calls reporting... Oh, it's a werewolf hunter. Let him out. ...an assault in progress at a business where Perez and the victim were getting lunch. The victim attempted to flee multiple times...

But Perez kept them restrained in a chokehold. He then pulled out a wooden stake with a nail in it. Oh, boy. Vampire. Yeah, I know, right? We bought the wrong tool, man. You are the worst werewolf killer. Wooden stakes. Wait, is it a silver bullet? Silver bullet. Silver. Yeah. So telling the victim, he said he had a wooden stake with a nail in it, telling the victim that they were a werewolf and that, quote, he was going to pierce their heart.

Fortunately, the victim was able to escape, but Perez ran off with their backpack, which an officer later found in his possession after taking him into custody. Police also found several rocks.

Those are my rocks! Ah! You remember those famous scenes in the classic Wolfman movies where they throw rocks at him? No! Ow!

During the first five months of this year, a 72-year-old Florida man has placed 3,400 calls to 911, pushing his five-year total to 16,000 calls to the police emergency line, adding to investigators, according to investigators who arrested the recurring caller for allegedly stalking a neighbor.

Police last week responded to a 911 call claiming that someone was shooting an AR-15 rifle in the roadway outside of St. Petersburg residence. When officers arrived at the home, they discovered a family barbecue with small children at play. Oh, my God. The complainant was a guy named Samuel Lee Thomas who lives across the street from where the shooting purportedly happened. Police communications record show that Thomas this year dialed police 647 times to make complaints online.

about the neighboring home. So 647 calls just about these neighbors. So he hates these people clearly, or is he just lonely? There's more to this. So he's made allegations about narcotic sales, firearm usage, disorderly conduct, and suspicious activity. And I think they have some werewolves over there. And Quinet Peterson, who lives at the targeted property, told cops that the 911 calls have resulted in hundreds of interactions with the police, and that Thomas frequently stops in front of the residents

to yell obscenities at her and her family. Concluding that it was readily apparent that Thomas was utilizing the police to meticulously or maliciously harass Peterson and the family for no legitimate purposes, cops busted Thomas for stalking and false report of a crime. He was also charged with resisting arrest because he tussled with the officers when they tried to handcuff him.

Peterson said she wanted to press charges against Thomas because she was fearful that the constant police calls could escalate into a potential dangerous situation. Yeah, like getting swatted. Adding that her family had already suffered severe emotional distress. Now, Thomas's telephonic proclivities extended beyond...

Peterson's household. This is just a little drop in the bucket, okay? So according to a criminal complaint, Thomas has made approximately 3,400 calls to the police this year and 16,000 calls in the last five years. It does not detail the nature or target of those additional 911 calls, but indicates that with regard to Thomas, there was no indication of mental health issues or drug or alcohol influence. So this guy's just an a-hole.

Wow. Free $1,500 bond. Well, yes. I mean, he's breaking the law. Yep. He has pleaded not guilty to the three misdemeanor charges. His rev sheet includes multiple battery convictions as well as convictions for DUI, poposition, disorderly intoxication, passing bad checks, violating probation, and failure to return rented merchandise. Mm-hmm.

He has not previously been busted for misusing the 911 system, even though he's called it 16,000 times. What are they waiting for? If I were the neighbors across the street, I would set his house on fire when they call 911 and say, you know. It's him. It's the guy. In a brief phone conversation, he said, I don't know nothing about stalking, adding that his calls to police were about neighborhood nuisances. It's I don't know anything. Wow.

Wow. That's insane. And I'm surprised he's not in jail. He should be. Because every time he's making a false 911 call, he could be calling police away from something that actually matters. Imagine that's your neighbor. Yeah. You know, it's a nightmare for somebody like that next door. All right, that's all we have time for right now. That is what I have in the bizarre file for you. We're going to take a break. Don't forget to check out our YouTube feed, our page, because...

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He's Preston Elliott, City Beat. All right, so here is something that we've mentioned before. It's been a year-long tease that they've been working on this, but they have now announced a tentative opening date for

for the world's first Netflix houses. And there will be two of them. One of them will be at the former Lord & Taylor department store space inside the King of Prussia Mall. We've told you about this. And it is scheduled to open later this year. So it is going to happen before the calendar year is up.

And it's my understanding that there is one of those walls that are set up when a store is coming, and it actually says Netflix on it in place now. All right. All right. So yesterday, Netflix unveiled a plan for the first of its kind.

Fan fever, and I'm quoting this, fan fever dream space, the entertainment space which spans more than 100,000 square feet. Yeah, it's huge. Will feature activations from popular Netflix series like Stranger Things and Squid Game, along with photo booths, food options, merchandise, and mini games as well. So it's going to be multi-floors?

I don't know, Case. I would assume so. I believe it is because I believe one of those floors involves a theater experience like for Netflix special presentations, live shows, sporting events. Oh, okay.

We were talking earlier with Mark Summers about where production happens in this country and the fact that more and more of it is not happening in Los Angeles. And a few listeners pointed out that the Netflix studios in Monmouth, New Jersey, they broke ground on that a month or so ago. And so there is production that's happening. It's just not happening in L.A. as much. And it's nice to see that Netflix is sort of expanding how and where this type of stuff gets done. And I think...

houses like this, the one in King of Pressure will only reinforce that. I'm kind of excited especially Preston if it dovetails with the final season of Stranger Things and they offer stuff. That's going to be pretty amazing. Well experiences like Queen's Ball a Bridgerton experience, Stranger Things The First Shadow, The Perfect Bite and Netflix's Bites Vegas have already toured in 300 cities around the world.

The Philly Netflix house will be home to brand new experiences based on the Jenna Ortega starring series Wednesday and Japanese anime One Piece. You know what would be great? A Tiger King hair salon. Yes. Wouldn't that be great? Get your favorite Tiger King haircuts. Yeah.

The Wednesday Eve of Outcasts activation is meant to start off as a fun school carnival before taking a macabre turn thanks to Wednesday's antics. This is how they're describing it. So I'm wondering as they do all this and they roll this out and promote and cross promote with the shows themselves, does that mean we have a greater likelihood of having sex?

tied to these shows coming to town? I would think so. At least on the onset of this. They're going to want to promote this heavily and they're going to open them up in other cities eventually. But yeah, I would think that they would roll out the red carpet and spend a little bit of money and get some star power to highlight this. But we'll see if it ends up happening. They're also going to have something called One Piece Quest for the Devil Fruit and that will present a contest where guests will

will compete with the Straw Hats to get their hands on a mysterious devil fruit. So if you know One Piece, you know what that's all about. At the Netflix house, guests will also have a chance to role-play, and I love this, as the main character of popular shows,

at the Netflix virtuals, their VR game station, and then top that off with a round of mini golf if they want to. So there will be a theater that will screen Netflix films and shows on top of that. So I'm completely down with this. I think what I would say is, you know, roll things out incrementally. Don't try to open with too much because sometimes that can be

It can be sensory overload. Build it and make these things popular and learn how you get the people to respond because...

You can't make that first impression twice. Yeah, and while I guess that as more series and films become successful on Netflix, they'll swap those out and they'll bring in new ones and keep this a rotation. You know what I mean? Absolutely. So the King of Prussia location will be the first of two Netflix houses in the world. The second one in Dallas at Gallery of Dallas is also scheduled to open later this year.

Wow, man. They don't like that. People don't like that, Casey. The streaming giant has also announced a third Las Vegas location that is scheduled to open at some point next year. So I'll be all over this. This will be really cool. For once, we friggin' got the first round of something. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah. So I thought you guys might find that interesting. All right, here's a story that Nick passed along to me.

The landmark Berwyn Tavern, the BT to locals, is changing hands after 33 years. Wow. This is according to Henry Fisher, who bought the business back in 1992 as a silent investor. He said, we had a great run.

The new owners, Drew Zuccarini and Sean McKeon, are old hands in the bar biz. So a Bryn Mawr native and Archbishop Carroll alum, Zuccarini, worked at Smokey Joe's for the Ryan family and then for 23 years for the Hemchers at their Great American pubs. And then McKeon, who lives in Phoenixville, also worked.

Uh, and also brokers real estate met, uh, Zuccarini 10 years ago when they both worked at the great America at a great American. How many great American pubs are there? I'm only familiar with the one in Conchie. Oh, there's several. There's one. Yeah. There's one in Wayne. There's one in, uh, Phoenixville right across from, um, the colonial theater right down the street from the colonial theater. Uh,

I might have seen somebody get head-butted at a... That's right. Was that where it was? That was the Phoenixville one? That you maybe saw that? A national recording artist? Yeah, yeah. Head-butted? Yeah. At least he's a keyboardist. Yeah. Nick, you had said this to me because this is an important place to you. Yeah, I mean, we went to the Berwyn Tavern, to the BT, a lot growing up. You know, not growing up, but in our 20s when we graduated from high school.

I mean college. And I want to put this out there because I'm really curious to other people that went to the BT over the years. Is it a dive bar? Some people contend that it is and was kind of like Jake's in Westchester. To me, it was more like a neighborhood bar and still is a neighborhood bar. I mean, it's not going anywhere. It's still going to be there. It's just a different ownership. All right. So it depends on the definition of dive bar. Exactly. Is dive bar a cruise?

crappy place that has some charm to it that you like that's kind of what i or is it just a crappy place right so i mean and my definition is the former i i think the first thing you said that's that to me that's what a crappy with charm crappy with charm yes and and uh apologies to the owners uh the current owners for calling your bar crappy but um there's there's there's there's charm to it right there's this celebration of it too i mean there are there are organizations that

celebrate dive bars. The dive bar t-shirt company. It's not fancy, I guess is what I was trying to say. Our dive bar when I graduated from high school, I mean college, I didn't go to college, was a place called the Sports Page. And it was nothing special, but it's where we could go. And it was nearby, and it ended up becoming our little haunt. You know what I mean? So it doesn't have to be great. Sometimes it just has to be

convenient to you. Yeah, yeah. Now, there are some bars I've walked into and I've gone, ew. Right. Uh-uh. This is gross. Yeah, or just more than likely the people are gross. Sometimes they're actually named ew. Ew. Where are you guys going tonight? Ew. Oh. That's next door. Oh is next door. There was a bar in Manhattan that I remember when I was dating my wife, I went there to get a six-pack to bring it home. And when I cracked that first beer, it was...

It tasted like an ashtray. It was that gnarly. Cedar and smoke, yeah. Casey, I know what bar that is, and you always had to clean the beers. Oh, wait. This was like midway down on Main Street, right? No, no, no. It was under the train track. Oh, was it? Yeah, it was on Crescent Lane.

It might have even been called the Crescent Tavern. It's called the Crescent Inn. It's right by the train station, the Crescent Inn. Yeah, I actually did an article. There's a magazine called Philly Current, and they were asking me to name five of my favorite dive bars around the city, and I had the same dilemma.

It's like once you start naming it, you're like, well, you say it to somebody and they say, well, that's too clean to be a dive bar. Right. Or that's not what it is. So it's an interesting conversation. Very subjective. Yeah. I'm going to go to Erica wants to check in with Nick was talking about. Hi, Erica. Good morning. Oh, no, no. It's my fault. My fault. All right, Erica. Now we can hear you. Go ahead. What's up?

So I feel about dive bars that they attract maybe some of the saddest people ever. However, however, I love them.

I mean, it sounds like I'm saying I'm the saddest person ever, which maybe I am. But I think that they're fantastic. I think that they're like a service. Like, I think that they provide a service. They do. So you're right. A lot of times, a lot of times day drinking is a thing at these places. To your point, Erica, there was a place across when my wife and I first met.

Got married. We were living in Massapequa, Long Island, and there was a bar named Porky's, and Porky's was a classic dive bar. Door open during the middle of the summer. You could see people sitting at the bar drinking, and yet it had a pretty active evening crowd as well. Right. And it was a dive. Yeah. But...

People loved it. I'm sorry. No, I was going to ask Erica, if you go to, are you a regular at any of the dive bars that you go to? So there's one that's been walking distance from my house, which is funny because you go and you see like two cars in the parking lot and you walk in and it's packed. So you know that everybody walked there, which is a good thing. Yeah.

But I really want to say which one it is on the air. If it has charm, it's... It's a great place. It's a great place. It's the Tankard right in Burlington, right off the Burlington-Bristol Bridge. Okay. In Jersey. Okay.

I'm sure people are listening going, wait, that's not sad. You like it better when there's an air of despondence, right? Yeah, I don't need to be talked to. I don't need the Friday slinging, talking to me about my day thing. You're going there for one purpose only. Appreciate it, Erica. Thanks for calling in. Yeah, and...

it's interesting. Some dive bars, have you ever walked into a bar and the regulars are there and you're like, oh, these people don't want me here. Oh, yes. You know what I mean? Now, listen, I don't go to bars per se unless I'm being brought, but I've had that experience where you walk in and it's like, you know, like the Pianni playing stops. Where are you from? Yeah, I don't like that feeling. You know what? So there was a bar

Nick, Galifty's, right? It's still there. Yeah, I know. But it used to be a dive bar. Now it's kind of like it's been clashed up a little bit. On the main line? Yeah. Because Galifty's has great pizza. Yeah, because we were talking. I was just talking about it. Back in the day, I always thought that maybe it's like a...

Alright, so is a dive bar and a college bar two different things? I'll give you a dive bar that was referenced earlier in this conversation. Smokey Joe's. Smokey Joe's was in Wayne and it closed a long time ago. There was actually a horrific crime that happened after somebody left Smokey Joe's and I think that sort of led to its downfall. But it was a dive bar and the name Smokey Joe's was an apt name. I mean, it was smoky, it was gross, it was a dive bar and everybody went there. And Casey, it was...

a sort of combo dive bar and college bar because a lot of Villanova kids went there and a lot of kids that lived in and around Wayne went there. And I have only been to Smokey Joe's and the Berwyn Tavern once each and both with the same guy, a college buddy of mine who kind of grew up in that area. And so I like the Berwyn. I wouldn't classify that necessarily as a dive bar. It's in the gray area.

Let me ask you, Marissa, and I think this place is very popular and people go to it, but I think it, I'm going to say the name in just a second, but that it might qualify as a dive bar in the best way. In Maniac on Shores Lane, it's

Castle Rock, I think it is. Oh, yeah. Castle Rock right on the corner. They have a great beer program. Right. Yeah. Would that qualify as a dive bar? I think it has different parameters to different people. It has a lot of regulars. It has a lot of neighborhood folks. Right. Because it's in a spot where you don't have to cross train tracks. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's like, I don't know. One of my favorites is Ray's Happy Birthday Bar that's open almost 24 hours a day. I love the name. And you get a free shot on your birthday. I haven't been to Maniac in a long time to have a drink. Is Pitchers still around? Pitchers is still around. No kidding? Yeah.

Would you call that a dive bar? Yeah, I would. In a good way. Let me go to hang on, there was somebody let me go to Katie. Good morning to you, Katie. We haven't heard that in a while. What's up, Katie?

How are you guys doing? Doing well. I went to Conestoga with Nick, and I have to say, the BT, I feel like it's kind of evolved. I think it was a dive bar when we were...

kids, quote unquote. I mean, you could, you know, full disclosure, you could get in with a fake ID, you could sneak in with your friends, you know, it was, and it was, there was nothing fancy about it. And, you know, the bathrooms are, I think in the article that I read, it says they're going to upgrade the bathrooms a little bit and do some things to fix it up, but try to keep it as, you know, as authentic to what the beauty is. But I think it has evolved. I think it,

City Dive Bar, but it has that same feel. You walk in and the regulars look at you. The records player stops and they're kind of like, who are you? But then it quickly gets going again. The food's great. They have a nice outside area now. I don't know if Nick's been back since they fixed up the outside area.

No, I've not. And I remember being out in the back of that bar and A, it was a place where people would go and smoke back when you could do that. But B, like it was a nice little back patio area and it's nice to hear that they've upgraded. I don't think, you know, you can exist as a dive bar forever if you don't make some upgrades over the years.

Right. Yeah, definitely. And yeah, and it's not a place that I had been to a ton of times, but it's, you know, it's, oh, it's the BT. I do have to say you take your life into your hands if you park right in front of it because there's no shoulder whatsoever. She's right. Right there on Route 30. And it's pretty dangerous if you have one too many. You got to be careful walking out of there. Thanks, Katie. It gets difficult because I was reading a story about...

these days and how younger, you know, college age aren't going to bars, aren't drinking as much as they used to. Marissa, I know you and your husband have a business that, you know, speaks to this and that they're doing different things, Preston, like, for example, the concept of running a tab. Nobody knows about opening a tab. They go and they buy one drink and close out every time. Every time. I think, okay, I

This is something, one of my hot takes, I think COVID kind of ruined bar mentality a little bit. A little bit, yeah, I could see that. Because people didn't learn because there was a gap where people were turning 21 and weren't going to the bar and learning bar etiquette. So they're not opening tabs, they're just closing out after every drink, which they don't know it actually takes the bartenders longer because then they have to close you out every time. And I noticed a lot of people walk into a bar, get a drink,

and then stand at the bar. In a busy bar, in a busy crowded bar where you're not meant to- Yeah, get out of the way. Let somebody else order. Somewhere out. I see a lot of younger people that just kind of hang in the spot and don't realize to move around or even just walk into a restaurant and just kind of like stand in the doorway. Yeah.

They didn't get the training. Are you saying we need to have a clinic of some sort? I think so. Or at least, you know, like when they used to teach you how to use a phone in elementary school, they should have little bars set up. So to kind of train you early, you know, and about running a tab should be part of every math class. Yeah. Maybe Marissa could lead this. We'll see. I'm on it.

By the way, if Kathy were here, I'm sure she'd say that Jake's is a dive bar. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's small. It's not in bad shape. It's awesome, but it's just tiny. It's legend, right? Yes. Yeah, and so this place that you mentioned in St. Louis, what was the name of it?

Oh, it was out in the suburbs. It was the sports page. It's not there anymore. It's a place we used to... It was nearby. And we were 21. And we're like, where are we going? We're going to the sports page right down the street. All right. So we would go there. There was nothing special about it. You can throw darts if you wanted to. Oh, nice. They didn't have a dartboard. And they got a pool table, too. Let me go to... We're going to go to... Hey, Tucker's calling in. Yo, Tucker, good morning. Good morning. What's up, man?

I live two blocks from the Bourbon Tavern. Ah, okay. And I do go there, well, not as much as I used to. But yes, it is a dive bar. It's not as divey as it was...

18 years ago. 18 years ago it was a hole. You raise a good point, Tucker, about the delineation between a hole. There were a couple of bars we just called the hole. And that wasn't their name. What are you going to mean? The hole. The hole is a subcategory. About 18 years ago Rex took it over and started making good food. They got a smoker out back. They have a great deck.

live music on Sundays and it's a cool place now. Everyone I take there loves it. No longer a dive bar. Excellent. Alright, thanks, Tucker. No, it's a dive bar. It's a nicer dive bar. It's no longer a hole. By the way, the partners said that they're not going to change much. The name is going to stay the same and as our caller, I think it was Erica, that said only light renovations. They're going to

primarily update the restrooms and outdoor areas. What was the name of the... So the wonderful woman down in spring training was at Coco's two days. She has her own business. Yeah, yeah. They changed... They had to change the name of this beloved boxer. Right. Yeah, it was originally called, I think, the Brown Boxer or something along those lines. And they had to change the name. And they...

and they knew it would be an uphill battle and that people, but you know, it succeeded eventually. But yeah, that means a lot. And then not changing the name here is a smart move. That's Allison that owns that place. Allison, that's it. What a nice lady. Nick, by the way, as far as the food goes at Berwyn Tavern, the chef is staying on and that means the smoked meatloaf and Italian pork sandwiches are probably going to stick around. Their pork sandwich is fantastic. Is it? And yeah, and in case he like two or three beers in, it's even better.

And yeah, so that's good. I'm glad to hear it. And it's nice to know that they're upgrading them. You know, they're keeping the charm of the place, embracing what it is, but moving forward with it. Who had mentioned Castle Rock earlier? I did. Okay, so here is Kenny, who's calling in about that. Hi, Kenny. Good morning. Hey, Gadzooks, guys. How you guys doing? Gadzooks, buddy. What's up?

So I bartended down at Castle Rocks for like two years. I cooked and did everything down there. And when I tell you that is a college dive bar, that is a college dive bar. It is two floors of craziness on the weekend. And nobody's going in there for their fine dining. No, it's always hopping. And I like the way the place looks. As Marissa pointed out, it's right on the corner there, easy to walk to. So you would classify it as college dive bar.

Yeah, but also die bar because, let's just say, for instance, we had this regular who would come in there and get absolutely hammered drinking Golden Monkeys. His wife would come in the next day and ask us to not serve him the monkeys. Don't serve him the monkeys. Don't annihilate it.

He would come in and apologize the next day and be like, dude, your wife came in, you're cut off from monkey, you can drink anything else. I don't know what does. No, it does have a classic sort of neighborhood feel to it. So I'm glad it's doing well, too. All right. Thanks, man. We appreciate it. All right. Well...

Anyhow, they're planning for minimal or no closures at all, Nick. So they're going to try to keep it open the whole time as they do these minor renovations. And look, it's just changing hands. It's not closing. They're just going to move forward with it. And it's nice to hear all the callers saying that it has evolved over the years. I want to go in and check it out now. All right. Let's do another City Beat story. There we are. Yeah, man. Thank you. I love the stand-up pace. So...

Coyotes continue to be seen in and around Wissahickon Valley Park, with some neighbors saying that the sightings are increasing. Although coyotes have been in the area and through much of Philadelphia for years, some say that they have only noticed them recently. Friends of Wissahickon, or F-O-W, Fowl.

uh which helped uh manage the park with philadelphia parks and recreation reminded park users this week uh that the gorge and its surroundings are a wild place uh they posted on their facebook account uh we've received reports of coyote activity in the park i've seen coyotes in i'm in the wissaken fairly often and uh foxes and uh all sorts of uh wonderful wildlife uh

They said this is a reminder that the Wissahickon is a wild place with wildlife that calls the park their home. Be aware of your surroundings when you're in the park and make sure that you keep your dog on a leash. So this is going to sound dumb, but I'll throw it out there. The Wissahickon Park system with all those animals and this, you know, continuous run of forest, right?

You know, all my time hiking in there, I've always thought in the back of my mind, do you think a bear has ever made it into this general area? I've never heard of a bear sighting per se in the, you know, the park. But why...

Why couldn't it conceivably? Sure, sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. I would imagine at some point, possibly. I remember the story, though, you told me, Steve, about that coyote. You saw it had a giant rocket on his back. It did, yeah. It was amazing. It was wearing a crash helmet and roller skates. Yes. Which is a weird thing to see. He's heading to Acme. Yeah, so you never know what you're going to see. Maybe a bear will be in the near future. But the FOW...

Followed up. All right, if we're going to talk about it, I saw him one time. He was going after this bird, and he had this contraption. He was out on the edge of a cliff. Yeah. Do we have that audio? Oh, he was on the edge of a cliff. Yeah, and he had this catapult. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think I have that audio. And he got launched. Yeah. Yeah.

Poor guy. There was one time where I swear it looked like a tunnel. He painted it. But it turned out he had painted it on a rock. Yes, I thought. Wait a minute. Could anybody go through that, though? Yes. Roadrunner could. A roadrunner could. Bizarrely, this bird made it through. I remember that. Jesus.

There was one time he had this catapult and he's behind it and he has all this stuff ready to launch on it and he pulls the rope and the catapult itself flips back on him. That's a shame. I saw one with some nitroglycerin one time. Stop it.

Then he had a friend with him who kept boasting about how he could play the piano. But there was one piece that he couldn't get right. I think I might have the audio for that as well. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's crazy. It was something like this. What was that? He's kind of missing it. Fool, you stupid rabbit! Like this! Like this!

Oh, you know what? No. That wasn't a coyote. That was just this little guy with a big red mustache. Okay. Well, anyhow, so the FOW followed with a second post saying that it has received multiple reports of a coyote approaching park visitors with dogs along the Cresham Creek

Just a few weeks ago. It does make hard good to see a coyote out walking its dog. No, other people were walking dogs. All park users should use caution in the area. Leash all dogs and stay on trail. If you are approached, give the coyote space back away. Do not run, though.

And based on recent reports, no park users or their dogs have been harmed or anything like that. The initial post was prompted by a daytime encounter between a hiker and a coyote on one of the park's trails near the Crusham Creek. The woman who was not harmed called the Pennsylvania Game Commission. What's it going to be, boy? I told you the story about four years ago when we moved into our house longer and we were getting the fence put up around the house. I'm out walking my dog at the time, Chelsea. Chelsea was about 55 pounds.

An animal comes running right by, easily the size of Chelsea. And I'm like, holy crap, that is a coyote. And I mean, this is in Mount Airy. Wow. That is wild. Hang on about the bear thing. We're going to go to Zane on the phone. Hi, Zane. Morning. Good morning, fellas. Hey, what's up, bud?

Just wanted to comment on the bear thing because Steve said he doesn't recall one. I want to say within the past five or six years, there was at least one scenario where a bear came up from the Wissahickon Valley area and made it as far up to Lake...

The old folks on the corner of Cathedral Road and Henry Ave, there were cops up there at one point. Holy hell! Yeah, it made its way up. I don't remember if this is the same story or not, but I just pulled up an article from NBC10. This is back in May of 2016. Black Bear spotted swimming in the Wisaken Creek. And yeah, there was some video of it. And also the cops got involved. Yeah, because beyond hiking, and to your point, Zane, the...

Because it's a forest. It's a completely functional forest with, you know, the waterways and everything like that. And you're thinking, of course, you know, if you've seen other animals, why couldn't a bear make its way into it? Yeah, exactly. Apparently it did. All right. Yeah. And you've also got the you've got the reserve back there, too, with like the animal control area. So, I mean, it's got a good amount of room to run back there. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, Joe. Zane, appreciate it.

There was actually, Nick pulled up in that story, that a witness said they saw a big chubby bear with a fuzzy furry little tail. Oh, my God. No way. And that was what they saw. A big chubby bear with a furry little tail. Now that you mention it, there was another bear spotted with what you'd call, I guess, a picnic basket. Oh, really? The weird thing was he was dressed in a quasi-formal way. He had a tie.

Day and a half? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that story. Yeah. I think that we have audio of him running. Stop it. Oh, no. Damn it. Okay. Sorry. He was singing. He did have a song that he liked to sing. He had a boom box. Oh, that was... Oh, there we go. Yeah. That's him running.

So anyway, watch out for coyotes. By the way, male coyotes can weigh up to 55 pounds, females up to 40 pounds. They range from 48 to 60 inches long. They mostly eat mice, voles, rabbits, woodchucks, and birds. And human babies. Deer meat has been found in a majority of coyote scat analyzed in the state.

Little surprise given Pennsylvania's significant deer population. Deer are subject, of course, to getting hit by vehicles. They die of disease, starvation, and other natural causes making them easy targets for coyotes as well. You just brought up a potential correlation because fecal matter left by an animal is called scat. However, is the process of it scatting and is the sound of scat singing what you make when you're taking a dump that way? It's got to be. Maybe. Scat, ba-da-ba, do-do-ba-do-do-do-ba-ba.

Okay. Okay. I'm wondering. No, hang on. I'm not done yet. I'm wondering if there is a correlation in the name. In the name. Scat and scat singing. Right. If there's a, what do you call that word origins? The study of origins of words? Etymology. Etymology in that, not recalcitrant.

Edamame? An edamame. Yes, it's an... I am protein, actually. But, yeah, I don't know. Nick pulled up information on scat singing, but I don't know where. If it has to do with animal scat? Yeah. I think there's zero connection. I'm guessing there probably is. In retrospect, it doesn't seem to be the likely connection I'd hoped it would be. Okay. Now we can beat it. All right.

So, more traffic circles could be coming to the Philadelphia area. Roundabouts. I saw a documentary about...

where cities have employed traffic circles it actually increases the flow of traffic demonstrably the trick is not everyone understands the rules of a traffic circle right and that can be a goddamn nightmare however there's one i hit all the time on uh coming out of mount airy heading towards henry avenue yeah and it and if it's flowing you just keep going you're not waiting i i

theoretically, this could be a good thing. When I was in Sedona a few years ago, that area, it seemed to be nothing but traffic circles. Did you like it? I did not. You did not? No. I did not care for it. Now, I think it was because I was behind somebody who didn't necessarily know how to... Right. ...

Navigate and negotiate those traffic circles. Rule of thumb is when you're in the traffic circle in it, you have the right of way. And then if you're coming into the traffic circle, you have to yield. Yeah, there's one in Collegeville, this shopping center we go to a lot, and Rochelle hates it because...

almost everybody ignores that. Right, right. Once you're in the circle, you have the right-of-way thing, and they don't know how it works, and people get cut off, and there's horn honking and, you know, upset. But once you figure them out, yeah, they work. They're exactly, that's how they're designed, to keep things moving, so you're not stopping at either a four-way stop or a two-way, which you can sit at forever. But people are honking their horns? Yep, they are. ♪

The old Duke boys. Most of them sound like that one. Roundabouts at several stages of project development are proposed or planned for Philadelphia as well as Bucks, Montgomery, Chester, and Delaware counties according to plans on the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation website. It was actually Parliament that asked yes to write the song Roundabout to pitch it

to the general public. So Philadelphia also got a new traffic circle in Fishtown in 2021 at the intersection of York and Frankfurt and Trenton Avenues and in South Philadelphia at the Penrose Roundabout. Yeah, so I just did that one. Great song, by the way. I did that Penrose one last week. I went to go visit our buddy Nick Murphy. He lives right near there. I was pleasantly surprised at how easy that one in South Philly was to navigate. Now, I don't know if it was just because it was

time of day or whatever, but it was, it's new. It's noticeably new when you drive through it. It's right near where that Holiday Inn is, which you can see right off of 76. And it really made the, the, the drive flow more smoothly. So I'll tell you where I encountered a lot of them in Switzerland when my wife took, and I took a trip, a vacation to Switzerland. They're all over the place and they're in a lot of rural areas where it makes the flow really, um,

Nice and easy. My kids don't drive in the city, in Center City, very often. And I was riding as Parker was driving one time. And he pulls up to a stop sign. And he does the full stop. Yeah. And there were other cars that were pulling up to the other stop signs. And he had hesitated just a little bit. And I'm like, go, go, go, go.

I'm like, you're in the city, man. These people do not wait. Just look straight ahead. Just go, dude. Not even really stop. Just pause and go. Because you're going to get hit or you're driving like a normal person should.

But you're not in normal person driving territory when you're in center city. Dynamic shift. People who have been with me when I've driven through Manhattan, if I've been driving people, they always comment how...

amazing it is to be with me because I know how to do it. You just look straight ahead and keep going. Roundabouts are designed for cars to slow to 25 miles an hour or less and offer greater safety than other kinds of intersections, according to PennDOT. In 47 intersections on state routes where roundabouts were placed...

fewer crashes and crashes involving an injury occurred, according to data from PennDOT between 2004 and 2023. My one question is with roundabouts, do they size-wise eat up more area than a regular intersection would? Yeah. Probably looks like a little bit. PennDOT has proposed roundabouts across Philadelphia, including the locations listed in this article, and

And I wanted to tell you guys that right by us here in Ballackinwood, Belmont and St. Asaph's Road. Right here? Right here. Okay. However, some in the area have opposed the construction of the roundabout. That doesn't seem like a logical roundabout area to me. To me, it does not. Can I just on a tangential issue about this area? Have you guys seen this?

to be a movable topiary... Yes, the rhino? Rhino. Yes. What is... There were two at the exact same corner the president was talking about, CNSS and Belmont. There was one in our parking lot, in the corner of our parking lot, out where those trees are, and then there was one across the street, catty corner to the one in our lot of land.

Have you seen it? A topiary rhinoceros. No. It's artificial. I would have to remember that. If it's movable. It's funny. It just came out of the blue. It came out of the blue, but we all noticed it. Marissa's got something. All right. The City Avenue District. You know those guys that ride around on the bicycles around here and they take care of City Avenue. It's a whole district. They have Clover, Nibbles, and Benny. That's the rabbit.

And then there's a baby fawn. There's a baby elephant. Clover nipples. Clover nipples. Clover nipples. Yes. Clover nipples. Clover nipples. All right, come on in. Oh, there's a bear, too. Okay. I've only seen the rubber nipples, too. Yeah. Oh, so you can name them. If you go to cityav.org-name-that-topiary, you can name each one of them. So they're artificial, obviously. They're artificial. They're decorations. What's their website so people can name them clover nipples again? Yeah.

Oh, we have to do that now. CloverNimples. CloverNimples.org. Follow City Avenue District on Instagram. And by the way, since we're talking about this area, whoever fixed the light in front of our radio station, thank you. What was wrong with it? So for years, it would blink. It blinked so we could just cross. It was like one was red, one was yellow. And then about six months ago, they changed it to a static light. But

I would sit coming off City Avenue for a full like three to four minutes. You mean coming here to work when there's no traffic? When there's no traffic. Right. Yes. So now the sensors are better. So whoever fixed it in Lower Marion Township, thank you. Always supportive of that. Very good. All right. I'll do one more City Beach story and we'll be back.

Those are available at pasties.com. Pasties.com. Oh, for St. Patrick's Day. Glittering green shamrock nipple pasties are available. How much were they, Nick? Under $12, Preston. Okay, $11.95. All right, Philadelphia Zoo is more than doubling its menagerie of flamingos as it prepares to open a new walkthrough exhibit. It's going to be known as Flamingo Cove.

It actually just opened up last Wednesday with a wider opening planned this past weekend. I guess they did that. Visitors walk through the enclosure along a fence path and see pink-hued fowl wandering an artificial plane on either side. You guys ever seen flamingos actually in the water? Yes. I don't think I have. They're pretty amazing. In fact, what I saw, I was down in Florida, I saw a whole bunch.

mess of them. Casey, I saw one right next to our hotel in Clearwater. Really? Yeah, from my patio. I stepped outside and there was to the left, there's a little natural area. There's a park over there and there were a few flamingos out there. I feel like either you or Nick told me about that. Well, I didn't see one in Clearwater, I don't think, but I did see one in or several in St. John on the Yorsford

Virgin Islands. There's an island called Anagata, which is in... Anagata, Davida. It's the full name, yes. I knew I was walking into that one. And that's in the BVI, and they can fly down from Anagata to St. John. Okay. Alright. Yeah, so... There it is.

Welcome to the world of clover nipples. So a group of 14 African flamingos, species that has not resided at the zoo in half a century apparently, will join an existing crew of 10 Caribbean flamingos. Yeah, man. Yeah.

The zoo renovated a section of a 127-year-old aviary to serve as part of the flamingos' habitat. There's a new shallow pool for them to take dips in and nesting islands for breeding as well.

Ongoing construction on the Bear Country exhibit, by the way. With the flamingos out of their original perch in a section known as Bird Valley. Bird Valley. Very creative. Don't get those two mixed up, though. Yeah, Flamingo Cove is the latest. The Berserini, the flamingos. I didn't know you'd see that.

Flamingo Cove is the latest in a series of recent changes to the Philadelphia Zoo's layout, including the bear habitats, renovations, and updates to the zoo's botanical gardens. So the biggest bears they have at the zoo are obviously the polar bears, I would assume, right? They're not there anymore. I don't think they have them at the Philadelphia Zoo. When did they dump out on the polar bears? I don't know, but I used to love going to that enclosure. Oh, I love the polar bears. That's a good question, Steve. They may have them. I'm not sure.

Man, I had the funniest little, and I can't find it. I had this funniest little video of Avery when she was two years old after she had gone to the zoo. And she's walking around her house. She's not wearing a shirt, but she's talking about her experience at the zoo. And I'm telling you, at two years old, you could talk to her. But she called them Dalmingos. And she's like, we saw the yellow Dalmingos. And I can't find that video anywhere. That's so cute. I know. I still say Dalmingos.

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Now, back with more of the Preston and Steve Show podcast. All right, thank you very much, Marissa. Real quick, and this is not really for a topic or anything, but I just want to admit this publicly. I cheated on Rochelle last night. Oh, no. What'd you do?

I watched the final episode of The Last of Us. It had been long enough. Our schedules had been misaligned. This is a show that we watched together, and we only had one episode left to go. And what? That ended like three weeks ago? Yeah. So I finally said, screw it. I'm watching this. Did you feel filthy, or did you feel fulfilled? Oh, I didn't care. Yeah. I've been wanting to watch this for a while. Wrap it up. I mean, it did. I did feel like... Now, I will watch it again with her. Yeah.

But I just couldn't take it anymore. I had to go ahead and dive in and finish it. We haven't been able to talk about it. You guys have all seen it. I couldn't believe it was over. I thought there was another episode. It just ended. This is a dynamic. I'm sorry to jump in. This is a dynamic that happens regularly. And I'm sure it does in your world as well. Especially if you work in an environment where there are several people. You guys are all watching some similar shows. And then...

one person is either a couple of episodes behind or hasn't seen the finale or whatever it is and then that person has to leave the room while you guys talk about it or you can't talk about it because you're going to ruin it for them and it just happens all the time. Is this the long coming, I should say, which sounds like a porn movie, that

creation of the equivalent of a book club for TV. In other words, because the joy that used to exist of shows like Lost, that experience was amazing. You could only watch it when it came on, and that was the deal, and then everyone got to discuss and compare notes. You make a pact with a bunch of people

only to watch it at a set time and then because you part of the joy of something that you're loving like when I we did your friends and neighbors with the John Hamm show which I loved Claire and I watched it and loved it and we got to discuss after every episode and it was amazing and we loved it now have you found any other people to talk to it about

No. Oh, Casey. Casey and Nick, are you watching? No, I want to. Yeah, yeah. So I think yes and no, Steve, because...

If people really want immediate reaction, they can go online and they can find forums or they can find videos on YouTube of people slicing and dicing. But that's not talking about it with your friends. Your friends. Yeah. So it's a little bit different. But I don't know, man. What show are you guys... What are you guys watching now? Nothing. That was the last of our wrap-up, wrap it up, and then we're going to move on to either The Pit or to Friends and Neighbors. So I've got a few. What about Stick? Have you...

I watched episode one. What did you think? I liked it. I told Preston that they're shooting for a Ted Lasso vibe, so I have to give it, and I agree with your estimate, Preston, you got to give it three episodes. I've not been watching much TV lately. I got to get back to it. Oh, man.

But there's a lot out there. So you don't have to worry about lack of material. In fact, it's a glut material. Like we were talking with Mark Summers earlier this morning. That's part of the problem. It is. There's so much stuff that's out there and so much of it is good that you end up not having as many things in common to chat with people about. Yeah. But anyway, so we can freely discuss that now. All right. Because we're all on the same page about it. There was an article Steve sent to me with an interesting concept here.

For those who go to Costco, in particular, that's what this article is about. But I assume it could also pertain to like Sam's and BJ's as well. These, you know, big box stores or whether these bulk stores because they're large. Costco members are venting about an in-store habit. And it's the fact that sometimes large groups, families, families,

will shop together and they will walk shoulder to shoulder while they are in the stores. Not in a smaller, some behind others, not necessarily a single file, but a more compact group. They're saying that people walk regularly, shoulder to shoulder, down these wider aisles. And because the aisles are wider, they feel like they can stroll that way. So there are certainly bigger problems in the world, but I have encountered this at BJ's, which is where my wife and I will go.

And you'll get this family, the Von Trapp family, strung across. And do they rebuff me when I say, excuse me? No. No. But it's one of those things like...

I could see it annoying people, derange people probably a lot, but it's something I do notice. Yeah, I don't like shopping with people, you know. You ask them to clear out the store? No, no, no, no. And, like, I don't understand why families will go and shop together. Like, I don't... The notion doesn't appeal to you. It doesn't. It's not that I haven't ever, you know. In fact, I want to say the last time I went to Costco, I went with my wife and Avery.

But that is not the norm. That is definitely not... Did you ever do a full family going to shop? When we were kids, I would. Yeah. But...

No, unless the kids needed to come along for a purpose. Right, right. Or if we had no choice, we have to shop, we got to take the kids with us because nobody can take the kids. There was that. But not as adults. We don't all go shopping together. And I also was like trying to be surgical about it. Like we got there and I was like, okay, I'm going to go over to this corner and I'm going to grab those things. And they were like, no, why don't we just all walk?

together oh okay we have three people here yeah we can literally bang this out in a third of the time yeah i've told you when michelle and i food shop we we tag team we split up the list we could take a couple different carts go get business done get it done quickly it's a it's a it's hunting team effort yeah it's not a leisure activity get in get your stuff get the f out yeah go go go um but it i mean it definitely can bottleneck at certain areas

And I have had to employ the tactic of, all right, I'm walking. And I'm walking down the aisle on the right side because we're in America, Jack, right? And somebody's walking in my direction. And I don't like, rather than do this tango thing, I'm just going to stand still. And you can walk around me because you clearly are not. Do you apply the rules of the road to the aisle? I do. I apply the rules of the road to everywhere. Until you get to, if there's something on the other side.

Then you move your cart over so you can get it in there. What is your protocol when leaving the aisle with a cart?

When leaving the aisle with a cart? Yeah, you're coming to the end of the aisle. Oh, you just slow down? Yeah. And look both ways, like you would in a vehicle? Like a normal human would? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Are you talking about the people that barrel through it? What the hell's wrong with those people? I know, I know. Or, quite frankly, barrel across the aisle in the other direction. When you get to an intersection, treat it like a stop sign. Yeah. At least, at the very least, a yield sign. Right? Yeah. And then there are other things, if you're going to talk about etiquette, if you are...

passing along and someone is standing back looking at stuff on the shelves, excuse me. When you pass between the person and what they're looking at, and then you punch them. So,

So, yeah, you're kind of cutting into their visual zone for a moment. You're interrupting, yeah. And then also, if you are there and you're standing and it's clear someone else is looking in your general area and you've been there for a minute. Yeah, move. Move or step back.

Another tactic that I will employ at the Costco is the produce section. It's just a refrigerator. I do not go in there with my cart. You can't fit in the refrigerator. You can. Oh, no. So at Costco, it's a room. Are you kidding? It's a refrigerated room. I didn't know that. It's freaking cold, too. Yeah, it's frigid. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. So you don't take the refrigerator.

the cart in there? No, no. Because the carts are big. The carts are big and it tends to be a decent amount of people in there. And so if I go in there with a cart, I'm just bulky and I'm taking up space. I didn't know that. So I can just get in there and I'm surgical, man. I'm like, okay. Before I even go in there, I know what I'm going in there for. I'm getting bag salad, I'm getting some grapes, getting some bloobs and some strawbs and we're good. Bloobs? Yeah. And strawbs? Blueberry. Okay.

Oh. That's the kids, man. They call it the bloobs. I appreciate what you're saying. Keith, but where do you park your cart while you're going in there? It's funny you should ask. I have to find an area, because I did this at Lowe's the other day as well, that is not heavily trafficked. And then I just, I leave my cart there. I'm only gone for 30 to 45 seconds. You said there's a nun in the parking lot with a club foot. With a club foot. Yeah.

She'll watch your cart. Some dude at the supermarket, I was looking for some cleaner that I couldn't find. It's something I never bought before.

Literally came and stood right in front of me. Oh, come on. Literally. And his son, it looked like he was like college shopping for his son, like his first apartment. And his son just started giggling. And I looked at the son and I almost punched the guy. He literally just stood in front of me and wasn't like, oh my God, I'm sorry. He was like, oh, oh, you were here. I'm going to kill you. Like if I didn't exist. Was the kid laughing at you? He was laughing at the whole scenario. That his dad didn't notice me. Oh.

And that he was just standing there. Yeah. Oh, my God. I wanted to punch him so hard. That tracks for a child. You know, children. Not for the adult. Not for the adult. No, sorry. The kid was like 22. Yeah. When I say kid. All right. So the kid, what was he looking for? Bloobs or strobes? I think it was a. Hey. What's the wet mop? Oh, the swifter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Swiffer. Hey, by the way, that's why at Acme you use the order online. They do the shopping for you and you don't have to deal with people at all. You can get the app and you can use that. Fast and fresh, man. Speaking of fast and fresh, I know we're doing a contest on our YouTube page. What's the statute of limitations on eating? I already had a couple. There's a lot of food over there. It's nicely displayed and I don't want to mess up the contest at all, but it smells so damn good. What do you have your eye on?

All of it? Yeah. So some people who commented on this on Reddit about the people walking shoulder to shoulder down the aisles said, first of all, your spouse and kids are one thing, but why bring people, me, ma, your brother, your cousin, your second aunt, twice removed, and her eight kids, and the guy you met at the ball game? And another one said, and why do you insist on all walking shoulder to shoulder creating a wall that moves at the speed of a snail fart?

So other Costco customers were quick to agree with the gripes, calling the behavior one of the chain's most maddening quirks. They said one of my biggest P's at the store and that and when people stop and stand right there after entering the store, move out of the way. Another one had chimed in and they claim that members they have that the members have main character syndrome.

Oh, yeah, the main characters in their own movie. Yeah, the world revolves around you. Oh, yeah, the Von Trapps. Von Trapps goes shopping. I want to talk to someone. Have you guys used the... You're going along and you're scanning the products, basically using the app on your phone. Yeah, I've never done it. And you're basically checking out...

You never have to go to the checkout area. You know where I was chatting with some family members this weekend, just tangential to that, Steve, who live in Los Angeles. If you go to the Intuit Dome or whatever the Clippers play,

you don't um have to pay uh at a register for anything you grab stuff it's it's all facial recognition so you don't uh present a ticket you don't um uh present a wallet you don't present a credit card that's you go and you there's a line for getting a beer there's a line for getting a sandwich there's a line for getting in and everything every bit of it is charged to your card without you interacting with somebody selling you that stuff at all do you remember the amazon at

stores and SNL did a great parody of it where Preston they're all going in and you go in and I don't think it was facial recognition you had maybe a transponder or something on you but everyone's going in and some of the Caucasian shoppers are going in and the African American couple goes in and he goes he's looking around he goes where by

We're buying this. We're buying this. But you know what? I don't want that. I understand that. My cousin said it was a little weird. And the fact that there's no interaction with anybody is also very sterile. You're not dealing with a beer vendor anymore.

I like that. I like a beer vendor. Those are jobs for crying out loud. It's the people that make a living off of that. Can't you dress them like robots? We're going to see more and more of that happening. People like robots and maybe the whole... Did you like your beer? I wonder about places like Wells Fargo Center and Citizens Bank Park and The Link because it's all cashless now if that has affected the vendors' tips.

I bet you it has. It's also easier to tip too. You don't think about it as much when it's just on your card. It's a good question. I have no idea what the answer is. It might have affected it in a better way. That's what I mean. Because you don't think about it and you just round up or you just because you're not physically handing cash to somebody there's less attachment to your money and then maybe inherently people are a little less cheap. But Casey, I was thinking about this with the Intuit Dome where the Clippers play

you know, the Sixers and the Flyers are getting a new arena within the next five or seven years. Will there be any vendors in that new building? I really wish they would do, I mean, and I've mentioned this for the Eagles games, you know, for season ticket holders, to give them a cool-ass wristband that

that has, you know, so you could go buy something. It's like you do at a, like Disney World. You know, you have a little wristband and your credit card's on there and you just beep, you know. I would do something like that. Yeah, especially if it was collectible and had, you know, the Phillies logo on there and something like that. Yeah. I agree with that. But do you, do Apple pay with your watch? No. Because you could do that too. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, what I'm saying is they can also use it as in-house entertainment. Right. Light up the wristbands and stuff like that. Right, right, right. Yeah. That's a great idea. I wonder how cost-effective that is. Maybe they could just give anything to season ticket holders. Yeah, just give it all. Anything.

Take what you want. Dude, I'll tell you what. The Flyers take care of their season ticket holders. We were at the Camp Out for Hunger last year or two years ago, and these guys were in leather jackets, leather Flyers jackets. That's right. And I was like, where'd you get that? And they're like, oh, it's a gift for season ticket holders. Whoa. I was like, oh, wow. So what are season tickets, what are they going for, for the Flyers now? It's probably in the neighborhood like for $5,000 for the entire season.

So that's 41 home games. Per? Yeah, for a pair, I think. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what about for the Eagles? Eagles is, well, it depends on where you sit. Okay. 50-yard line. I'm in the neighborhood. Well, I'm in the 200 level, and I'm in the neighborhood of like 2,000, but it's also less games. Okay. So it's only eight or nine home games, depending on which season. When you buy season tickets for any of the Philly franchises, do you get parking? No. Why?

So that would be inducement if you get a deal, you get something. And I wonder, by the way, not to jump in your case, I'm sorry. When they start building everything, I still have yet to see the plans for accommodating the parking. Now, they're talking about parking garages. But I mean, you know, there are times when there are multiple events going on down there. Yeah.

Will that be enough?

I don't know. Yeah. I don't think so. And all of the plans are now changed because there's going to be a new arena. When they first started pitching those ideas coming from the Navy Yard over 95, adding all those green areas, changing the parking complex, Steve, the original designs are no longer valid because there's going to be a brand new arena in the sports complex. Yeah, I think within the next 10 years, like the parking, that South Philly complex as we know it will not be recognizable. There'll be hotels and shopping. The new arena will be in a totally different spot.

Would you rather get stuck in a gigantic parking lot or in a parking garage? Lot. Lot. Me too. And I'll tell you where I came to that crystal clear realization. It was at the Camden. Camden. The barbecue. One year I got accident. Oh, it's just okay. No biggie. I got...

We get to parking because we're coming down for the event. Everybody, aquarium, right? Yes, got into it. I'm like, when everything let out, I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to raise a family here because I'm never leaving. When I was leaving Penn Relays, I had the parking garage across the street from Franklin Field.

I could have walked home faster. Yeah. The tower when we were going to shows there. That old garage where your car could barely fit around the corners. Yeah, that was always a tough spot to be in. Except the first level was free. Was it? Yes, because I think they had to have a deal. It was also the most dilapidated, crushed up, broken concrete bottles. That's why they had to give you something for parking in hell. Yeah.

Man, that sucks. And you don't get a discount on parking with a... No, in fact, so I was... Listen to Marissa laughing. She's giggling. We park at FDR, and I think it's $40 to park there. I was thinking about doing something like this, right? We know we're going to be there on a Sunday morning.

Go there on Saturday night, leave your car there on Saturday night with all of the, you know, everything in the cooler and all that. And you leave it there. You don't have to pay. And then I can have like one of my kids drop me off and then our car is just waiting there and then I don't have to pay. So 40 bucks. What is the secure? What are the requirements? I assume someone has attempted this.

If so, is there a turnover? Is there a stated turnover? No, because it's FDR Park. So I wonder like for those guys that like because there's like men's adult soccer leagues. Yeah. Like I wonder if they have how they get in. I don't know, man. Yeah.

Do you remember when the movie Running Man came out and it shows them at a vending machine for a soda and they're paying, I can't believe I'm paying $5 for a soda. And it seemed absolutely outlandish and outrageous to us at that time. Yeah, yeah. Do you think that we will live to see the day where parking will cost you $100? Yes. In some scenarios, yes. When you're talking about

And I mean just a flat rate. It costs $100 a park at Eagles games if you have an RV. Like if you have a big old thing. You know that there are people who pay...

Like thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars for a parking spot in Center City. Oh, dude, I was talking to someone that we know who had a job offer to work at a place in the city. And the money wasn't very good, but the capper on it was that parking was...

Roughly $50 a day. $50 a day. You're working to park. Yeah. That's essentially it. It's like people who... Everybody's working for the parking. No, like people who have to pay for their kid's daycare. And essentially their job is just to pay for daycare. What cracks me up, and we observed this when it was happening, Preston, when the Sixers tickets were down to, what were they, $10? Two bucks sometimes. Right. Right.

that parking was at that point, that's right. 20 times the price of the ticket. So when I went to, I went to Phoenix a few years ago to see a fish play and they played it. I think it's called talking sick. Now back then it was called action. But anyway, uh,

Parking was free. And so we went to the concert on Friday night. And then on Sunday, we went to the Arizona Cardinals-Houston Texans game in Glendale. Parking was free. It was included with your ticket. I couldn't believe... And I'll tell you what, man. Getting in and out was...

So easy. Talk about an inducement. Anything with parking. People would freak. Hey, here you go. So, text coming in. L.A. parking already $100 for Rams and Chargers games. Somebody said paid $75 to park in Seattle for a Mariners game last year. $75. Another one says saw $100 parking under the 95 Bridget in the Metallica show.

Wow. Another one says at the Met in Philly for a hooter show, $85. Yeah, at one of the garages, I guess, right off abroad. Here's another one. Park at Air Show in Ocean City, Maryland last weekend, $105. I've never seen numbers like that. That's crazy. I remember about seven, eight years ago, I was watching this documentary. I forget who the real estate magnate was.

He had had apartments and condominiums. This was in Manhattan. And he was saying he got out of that and converted them all to parking garages. And his wealth quadrupled. I firmly believe that. Yeah, most definitely. I mean, it's insane. Yeah, it's crazy. That's why when...

Like down at the shore, you know, you go park somewhere, two bucks or something like that. You know what I mean? It's like, oh my God. Yeah. You gotta be kidding me. It's just insanely cheap. Or it's like four bucks for an hour. Yeah. As opposed to minimum $25 in the city or something like that. You park and you run because you're like, dude, they're going to find out. They're going to know. They're going to know. Yep.

I'm sorry. Go ahead. Well, what do you want, Nick? Any of you guys use MeterUp to park in the city? I do. Yeah. I find that that saves you a little bit of money because you can use that and not pay the full amount. You're not wasting money when you use MeterUp. Right. Yeah, you got an idea of how much time you're going to be spending. Yes. You reserve it for that. And then you can extend, right? Yes. If you want. You can extend, which is fantastic, especially. But you can also, once you've left, you can terminate it. Yes. And you are not spending that amount you might have intended.

guesstimated ahead of it. I have a few calls real quick I want to go to. Doubling back to the conversation that got this started, which was the people in Costco walking too wide down entire families, taking up space. I'm going to go to Earl, who's got a comment. Hey, Earl, you're on the air. Good morning.

Hey, kids. Good morning. I was in retail for many years, and one of my jobs ended up at Toys R Us, and the boss just laid into me because I was pushing the cart like most people do. And he goes, no, we don't do that here. And I go, why? And he goes, because...

And if you're pulling it from the front, you can peek your head around and see if there's a crazy mom or grandparent trying to get the Furby or the thing. That's not a bad idea. Pulling the cart from the front gives you that, yes, never thought about that. And I've never done it another way since. And then now what I do, instead of running into the traffic,

problems that you guys were talking about. I just park mine at the front of an end cap in the aisle. I go get whatever I need out of that aisle and then go fill my cart at the front and now I'm not caught in that traffic and I can walk around the wall. That's a good idea. A couple of good tips there, Earl. You should open up a Costco driving school. Wow. Right? One more thing. Yeah.

One more thing, if you haven't seen it, have somebody look this up. The godfather of AI sounded alarms over the last two days of what we're looking forward to, and it is scary as all get out. Yeah, we talked about it. He won the Nobel Prize for...

Yeah, we did. Yeah, he gave sort of his doom and gloom speech. So, yeah, if you weren't freaking out enough. All right, guys. All right, thanks, Earl. Hey, Jason, thanks a lot. Have a stupendous day. You too, man. Thank you. Stupendous. I like stupendous. That's a good word. Stu's a good guy. Let me see here. All right, Jim's got a workaround. All right. Let's go to him. All right. He's giving up a secret, it seems like here. Hey, Jim, you're on the air. Good morning.

Hey, how are you guys? Good. What's up, buddy? Sorry to bother you guys at work. It's okay. So Memorial Day weekend, all them concerts down South Philly. I actually did Metallica both nights, went to Post Malone and Jelly Roll the night between. When we went to Post Malone and Jelly Roll, live casino.

They don't charge for parking unless there's an event. Okay. They don't open them gates, like, for the parking lots for, what, four hours before, five hours before? Mm-hmm. We rolled right in, like, we were down at the casino before the parking lots down the stadiums opened. They had nothing set up, and we watched them set up and charge $50 to every car that came in after lots opened.

So we didn't have to pay a dime. Interesting. It's pretty wild. They don't start charging until the stadium lots open. So normally I'd be inclined to promote that and get the word out, but then again, they always are the home for our blood drive. And they're so generous. What you can do is go there early and then play a few hands of blackjack. There you go. Have a drink. Toss a couple of bucks. Have a nice meal. Start your evening there. Exactly what we were planning on doing. There you go. Thanks, Jim. I like that plan now.

All right. Thanks, man. You can come and go in their lot. That's another plus. I'm doing that right now. All right. Thanks, Jim. Appreciate it. And so the casinos down in Atlantic City, they've gotten smart. They now charge people as they're entering. Yeah. They used to charge you when you exited. And it didn't matter if I won or lost money in Atlantic City. When they would try and charge me, I would just go.

I just gave them all. I'm like, I have no cash. I'm like, yeah. And that would fly? And that always flew. Really? And they were like, okay, you're good to go. Casey, here's an answer to a question you had a moment ago. And then we're going to take a break. It says, hey guys, I've been a bartender at Freedom Orchard Pavilion for around eight years. And I think the cash-free system has actually resulted in slightly better tips. Okay. He said, I think a lot of people just routinely hit a button.

Uh, and even if it's 10%, that can add up quickly with a $16 drink. People in the past may have thrown down a dollar bill on the counter, but if they hit 10%, that's a dollar 60 now. So they're not really thinking about it. And yeah, it was usually like a bucket drink is what I would pretty much tip. Right. But if it's a percentage, chances are you're going to be tipping more than a dollar.

So, interesting. You learn stuff. All righty. Well, thank you for checking in with the calls. We do appreciate it. We're going to take a quick break, but let's do this. Let's go to Hershey Park. Oh, yeah? Yeah, let's do that because we are heading there for a live broadcast.

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Brought to you by Pella Windows and Doors, celebrating 100 years. And right now, save $250 off of Windows, $700 off doors, and 0% APR for 48 months. This story is out of Wisconsin. An apartment occupant reportedly used tequila to marinate a home-cooked chicken.

turkey Sunday evening and it caused the oven door to blow open. Whoa! Oh, man. According to the Madison Fire Department, the 911 caller said that they were cooking a turkey in the oven for eight minutes when the oven door blew open.

Firefighters arrived to check the oven and a thermal imaging camera was used and firefighters opened the oven which had blue flames that came out. Wow. The oven was removed from the apartment and the occupant said that they had used this recipe before and had no issues. Must be that butterball heat sensor. Although the occupant had used the recipe before with no issues, firefighters

presumed the accumulated vapors from the alcohol were not being vented properly from the oven and when exposed to oxygen would ignite. The occupant had to be evaluated for burns but was not taken to the hospital. Redwood City and the California Department of Transportation says that they have fixed the security flaw that had allowed hackers to tamper with crosswalk accessibility buttons earlier this year. The issue began back in April when pedestrians

had heard distorted messages voiced to sound like both Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg instead of standard crossing instructions. So sometimes for blind people, there will be instructions that are recorded and used at those crosswalks. Well, these were actually, they sounded like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. What were they saying? Oh, it was like...

So I listened to Zuckerberg. He's like, hey, this is Mark Zuckerberg, also known as the Zuck. And I just want to let you know that because of ARI, our society is falling apart. Like this funny, but he's like, but don't worry about it. We got it. And it was just like this weird little doomsday message. That's pretty wild. So the compromised buttons in Menlo Park,

We're the only buttons operated by Caltrans and all three jurisdictions disabled the system in response. Caltrans Redwood City assured residents that the issue has been resolved and new protocols are in place. But this gets more interesting as we go along. The city manager, Jennifer Yamaguma, claimed that the issue was caused by users gaining access to the manufacturer's app called Polara Field Service created by Polara Enterprises, one of the largest manufacturers of accessible crosswalks infrastructure. And for years,

Polaroid had a publicly accessible app on the Google Play Store and the Apple App Store that allowed city officials to access the systems. Within 48 hours of the incident being reported in Silicon Valley, the app was pulled from stores. Theoretically, access to the crosswalk buttons requires a four-digit numerical.

code created by the city. However, many online commenters have pointed out that some cities never change the default password. One, two, three, four. Oh, come on. You're allowing access to that and you don't change the code? Polaro later established the app, republished the app with additional password security requirements. While a four-digit password allows for 10,000 possible combinations, some cybersecurity experts say it can be cracked in.

Instantly. Isn't that the kind of like the passcode that some idiot leaves on his luggage? On his luggage. Neither Caltrans nor Redwood City would say how the hack occurred. But yeah, some of them maybe because of that password.

In the UK, a charity fundraiser run for 90 miles long. A man, a runner, was dressed as a pair of testicles. Wow. He did the 90 mile run. This was to try to reduce the stigma around testicular cancer. Oh, my balls. Toby Freeman is the founder of Robin Cancer Trust, a charity set up in memory of his older brother who died from testicular cancer in 2011.

His latest challenge, part of a bid to run 311 miles total, had seen him run coast to coast from Cumbria to Tyneside across three days dressed in his eye-catching costume as testicles. Did you see the costume? Was it, in fact, large balls? Yeah, exactly what it was, yeah. That's not aerodynamic. It was absolutely incredible, said the 35-year-old. Some of the livestock were a bit wary of giant testicles, but we avoided them as we navigated through.

Mr. Freeman said the big ballsy challenge was intended to break the stigma, reduce the embarrassment and save lives around testicular and ovarian cancers. He said, I choose to do this. I'm able to do this. Health is such a privilege and that's denied to so many. There was this overwhelming gratitude for support and donations, all of the conversations, but also what I'm able to do. As part of the challenge, he has already run marathons in London previously.

Brighton and completed the great Manchester run as well, but not dressed as testicles. All right. And we'll do one more quick story and then we will wrap it up. Where's my quick story? All right, we'll go with this one. Police.

In England, had a tip for rock lovers heading into the Download Festival last weekend. In past years, the crash detection features on smartphones and smartwatches mistook mosh pit dancing for serious car wrecks, flooding the emergency lines with almost 700 extra calls. That's wild. Leicestershire police urged fans to switch those features off, use airplane mode, or at least answer hidden number callbacks.

So that dispatchers know that everyone is safe. Have you ever had your phone go off because of some sort of collision or something? No. The warning covered every rough and tumble style from slam dancing to simple pogo jumps that might trigger an alert.

And it gives a new meaning to party till the cops come. But they showed up because they think you've been in an accident. But yeah, they asked people to actually turn that feature off. Yeah, I guess they're slamming hard. On their phone. And that is what we have in the bizarre file for you. All right, we're going to take another break. When we get back, lesson question, trash, music news. And music news will include a chat with one of my all-time favorites.

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Going after she got sick. Yeah. Right, that was at like 6.55 this morning. That was an early one. Yeah, so where is Paige DeSorbo, the girl from Giggly Squad, Love Island, USA, going after she got sick? You get bonus points for saying it right? I hope so. Okay. I mean, we'll...

We'll rank you higher in our respect if you do. So 610-660-9333. My headphones sound funky for some reason, Casey. Funky in a cool? No, in like a terrible way. All right, that's better. Thank you. I think. All right, we're going to do that. Let's do the trash while you're calling in. The trash bit. Goldmine. 93.3 WMMR.

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Attorney Bo Brinley says they are basically the same if you swap the baby oil for piss. Oh, my God. And finally, Josh Dumal revealing, this is Josh Dumal we've had in the studio, revealing in a candid interview with Men's Health that he is going through testosterone replacement therapy in a bid to get back some of his youthful vitality. Asked if it was working, Dumal admitted that the flower in his lapel was actually the head of his penis. Oh, my God.

It's an old joke. And that's Charlie Woodtrash. All right. Thank you, Steve. All right. Let's see if somebody knows the answer to the question. Where's Paige DeSwerbo, the girl from Giggly Squad, Love Island, USA, going after she gets sick? And we're going to go to Zach, see if he knows the answer. Hey, Zach. Morning, bud. Good morning, Preston. How are you guys? Awesome, Zach. So where's the girl going to go after she gets sick? Home. I'm going home. I'm going home.

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This morning for Music News, we have a special guest who is going to be joining us because there is an event that is coming up. It is next week. It will be at the Windish Studios in Westchester. And there's a show and a drum clinic that are going to be happening. You've been very giddy over this. Very much so. He's one of my all-time favorite drummers. I need to play a couple of examples of that.

before we welcome him officially. So obviously you know him from the band Journey and he brought us a couple of iconic drum fills and drum grooves. I'm going to play a couple of those for you. Take care, my love. This is love.

That little fill right there is legendary among drummers. It may not sound like it to you, an average pedestrian music listener, but there's a lot going on there, as is in this. Now, everybody knows this song, but what you don't know is that it's a really unique drum pattern. ♪ Hiding somewhere in the night ♪

Now, while Neil Sean is doing a rip and solo there, there's some really cool stuff drum-wise that's going on in the background, and you should pay attention to it. And then we fast forward a few years where jazz is what is the man's forte, and this is what he plays like now, and the type of thing you can hear coming up at the show. Wow. Oh, it gets good. ♪

I mean, please. Come on. Come on. Stop it with that. Ladies and gentlemen, the amazing Steve Smith is joining us this morning via Zoom. Good morning, Steve.

Good morning. Thanks for coming on, man. We appreciate it. You can tell I'm a big, big fan. I'm a drummer myself. You are in the top of the tops as far as I am concerned. And I'm just a major fan. And as Steve said, I'm kind of geeking out on this whole thing. Well, thank you, Preston. I appreciate it.

I heard your cover of Journey's Escape. You did? You got a chance to check that out? He said, good job. Did you hear that? Thanks, man. That is a stadium song, man. I remember seeing video of you guys playing Escape live and I'm like, that's...

that's what rock stadium rock was to me. And I'm like, I got to play this song. So I have a little electronic drum kit and I used to make some drum videos. That was during COVID by the way, we were all finding something to kill some time in COVID. So I was making drum covers. So thank you, man. I hope I did it some sort of. There's some tricky parts in there. Yeah. Yeah.

And I had to kind of figure out, I don't know how your sticking went, but I did my own version of that. No, I think you got it. Well, you've just made a year for Preston. And Preston, you were laying that you had the opportunity to sit in an intimate drum session with Steve. I spoke with Steve real quickly off air before this interview, but Steve, it was back in, I want to say it was 1987. I grew up in the St. Louis area. I've been in Philadelphia for 30 years, but...

You and Vital Information played at a club called Mississippi Knights in St. Louis. It was around 1987. And the day after your show, through a place that I was...

always at called drum headquarters in st louis they had a uh a master clinic and i was believe it or not i was a working drummer at the time i was freshly out of high school but i was playing with a band so they invited me to be there it was like me and maybe five other people at a guy's house in the basement and you came in and you did like a two-hour clinic with it and i'm telling you it was just one of the coolest things i've ever experienced

Wow, that's cool that you were there. Yeah, I definitely remember Mississippi Nights and I remember that tour in 87. But wow, that's cool that I did a master class. I mean, I've been doing those type of educational events for many, many years and always have fun doing it. And I'm looking forward to the one on Saturday, June.

28th of June at Windish Studios in Westchester. That'll be a nice day because I get to do a

full-on master class a couple of hours in the afternoon and then a concert that night with vital information oh that's awesome so vital information and and you you've been doing this lately and i've seen the the videos on youtube which is great is you've been taking uh so the album is called new perspectives and you've been taking some iconic journey songs and you've been reworking them in a jazz style is this something that's been on your mind for a while

No, it has not been on my mind at all. But what happened is I have a new lineup of

with some 40 something now i'm 70 years old now and my bandmates are in their 40s and so they came up with the idea we should play some jazz treatments you know to make jazz treatments of journey songs and i was saying no i don't think so i don't see how that's going to work out and then they wrote these amazing arrangements so my keyboard player is manuel valera and

And he wrote just a brilliant arrangement of Don't Stop Believin'. My bass player, Yannick Gwizdala, wrote a great arrangement of Who's Cryin' Now. We do open arms. They just wrote one for Separate Ways that we're going to record next week. So it's not all that we do, but it's like it...

The way they wrote the arrangements, it makes sense because it sounds like our music. Of course, you hear some of the Journey melodies in there, but there's a lot of extra composition in there and then a lot of improvisation. So it's jazz, jazz rock music.

whatever you want to call our music. Yeah, but it's got those memorable moments of Journey that you'll pick up on. That's right. You'll hear the melodies that are in there. Steve, I was always so blown away by your discipline on several different levels. Number one, your discipline in practicing and learning and improving your craft, but also your discipline with the band Journey because your abilities...

You really held back and you gave the music what it needed, obviously, but you could have. And that's why I didn't know how great you were until I started listening to Vital Information. I was like, hey, he's a rock drummer. He does really cool things. But your abilities so outshined that style of music. Was it hard for you to kind of hold back and play what the music called for? Because, you know, as a drummer, you want to get adventurous and have a good time, you know?

Well, it was not difficult for me to do that. I just channeled my creativity into the area of coming up with the best compositional drum parts that I could come up with versus filling up a lot of space with fills and improvised time playing. Plus, I set myself up with...

Vital Information starting in 1983. So that's been over 40 years. So I knew I had an outlet for this other side of my playing. But then I was able to, like you say, discipline myself to play the music of Journey as a supportive drummer, an accompanist, as we are as drummers.

But to really dig into coming up with creative and unique drum parts when appropriate. Right. If it was appropriate to play just super straightforward in...

Then I did that. So musicianship is what I value is the main thing, is the musicianship, which means making really good decisions in the moment of how I can best serve the music. At that masterclass all those years ago, somebody asked a question along the lines of, would you ever do this type of music with those musicians, meaning Journey? And you, in a very respectful way, said, no, they can't do it. laughter

it would be a little bit over their heads. I mean, they're great in their own right, and obviously, you know, Sean is legendary, and Steve Perry, one of the greatest vocalists ever, but jazz is a little more difficult than a lot of people realize.

It is very difficult and it requires learning a specific language, you know, and essentially you could say it's learning the language of bebop. It's learning the music really that got developed in the 40s and the 50s, led by Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker and then on to Miles Davis and John Coltrane. So there's a whole world of music in that language.

that I'm familiar with, that the people that play in Vital Information and all the other jazz groups I play with, plus we're familiar with Hendrix and Cream and Led Zeppelin and Sly and the Family Stone and James Brown. So we put all of that together in the music of jazz rock fusion and the music of Vital Information. So it's a very inclusive type of music that

That's interesting to play and especially interesting to be in the room when it happens because it's very much a one-time experience, a one-time only experience because there's composition and familiar melodies and grooves, but...

One of the main ideas is it's new and unique and improvised and every show is a completely unique experience. It's amazing. I've always been a fan of jazz and you mentioned Coltrane and Fusion Jazz. And I know you're a Buddy Rich, you're a massive fan and have done things with the Buddy Rich Orchestra. And I was reading an interview with you and you were talking about how

And I never thought about this, but Buddy Rich's drumming, which was always pyrotechnic and amazing to watch. I used to love just... You'd be transfixed at watching him drum. But there were elements of...

What is probably you would consider classic rock drumming as well within that. Was I interpreting what you were saying correct? That there were elements of what make great drumming for rock music inherent in the way Buddy Rich and many jazz musicians drum? Well, I think...

My point was that Buddy Rich was one of the very first jazz drummers to embrace rock drumming. And so as early as 1966 and 1967, he was recording rock arrangements with his big band. And he played rock music.

incredibly well. So he heard it, he heard the rock drummers play and he went basically, oh, I can do this. And he did it. No, he didn't. It wasn't out of his reach at all. In fact, I mean, a lot of people think that I played rock first and played with Journey and then I decided to play jazz where actually it's really the opposite. I grew up playing jazz and

And like most studio drummers of the 60s and 70s, they all came out of jazz. Even the studio drummers of the 50s came out of jazz, but could play the music of the time.

they could play rock because once you can play jazz, it's not so hard to play rock. The other way around is not true. Once you play, if you grow up playing rock, it's very difficult to be able to play jazz. It requires such a different mindset and technical, physical approach to the instrument. Most people can't or don't make that transition. But to go from jazz to rock is,

It's not difficult. Not that hard. One of my favorite interpretations, I listen to it regularly, is he did a cover of Norwegian Wood from the Beatles. Yeah. And it was phenomenal. And they do their spin on it, kind of like what you're doing with the Journey songs, which is great. Right. And Mercy, Mercy, Mercy. That was another one. It was a Joe Zawinow composition that was a big hit for Cannonball Adderley. And Buddy had a big hit with Mercy, Mercy, playing in a very groovy rock style.

I wanted to ask you about, you know, you had mentioned being 70 years old and watching you play today. Steve, it looks like you are more limber and agile than I've ever seen you. And what is the secret to that besides genetics? I mean, you are playing faster and more fluid than I've ever seen you play.

I do work at it every day and I work at staying in shape. And it's just it takes a lot of discipline to keep the physical chops up. And I'm glad that you think that I'm playing well. I feel like when I watch videos of myself when I was 30, 40 and 50, I just...

I feel like, oh, I wish I could still do that. No, it pisses me off to watch you. I'm like, how can he's not breaking a sweat? I can't believe it. It's amazing. And another cool story I wanted to tell you, Steve, is we had Victor Wooten in here. He's been in a few times. I've actually jammed with him, which would probably my crowning achievement ever was a good jam. There's a duet that the two of you did.

And the last time he was here, and it was for like a NAMM event or something along those lines. It was a musician's event. And I asked Victor about it. And he said, oh, yeah, Steve and I just made that up. And I'm like, you're out of your goddamn mind. He's like, yeah, we just talked about it a little bit, and we just went out and made it happen. And I just, it blows my mind. The nonverbal communication that musicians can have. You get a structure together, but then you just go do it because it seemed flawless to me.

Yeah, we talked about it. We were in a stairway just getting ready to go out and play. And it was that improvisation. It did have structure, like you said, but it's the structure based on some Indian rhythms. And we both had some background in playing music from India and certain rhythms. So we decided to use some of those rhythms as a sort of a way to play music

in unison, and then there would be some improvisation, and then we would play in some unison with those Indian rhythms that we both knew. So, yeah, we just talked about it and then went out and did it. And it's another, it's an example of having kind of a common language that we can rely on to use as a grounding of music.

in a way of communicating, but then improvising from there. Steve, I wanted to ask, Preston had turned me on to the website Drumeo. I'm not a musician. I do love to watch musicians discuss what they do, how they achieve what they do. Just listening to you now break down at a level that I may not completely understand, but I find it engaging. How many times do you have people who are actually not drummers or musicians show up to one of your drum clinics? Hmm.

Every so often, but generally, you know, it is my master classes are aimed at musicians and especially drummers. And it's not, you don't have to be at any particular level. Like the concepts that I address in the master classes are always fundamental concepts.

So if you're a beginner, you're going to get something. But then if you're an advanced player, you're going to get something too. And also it depends on questions being asked. Like it's very flexible. And there's not that many folks. I mean, I think the capacity of the master class is about 70 and we're not at total capacity yet. So there's still room for people to come out, but still...

There's a lot of room for questions and interaction, so...

It'll be whatever people make it. Even though I have a presentation, but whatever questions are asked, I'll answer. The clinic is going to be on the 28th and the show is on the 28th as well with Vital Information. You can get tickets at downtownwestchester.com slash events. And I wanted to ask you about Journey and your body of work with them, Steve. What would you say of all those recordings that you did? Is your practicality

achievement maybe with the band. I mean, Don't Stop Believin' is an easy go-to. It's probably the most recognizable journey song. It has a life of its own through movies and soundtracks and pop culture and that rhythm that you supplied. Would you say that that's one of your great moments or is there something else? No, that's a great moment. But it was just, in my mind, it was just one song that

of a very good album, one song on an album. And if I have to describe what it was that we did as a group is we wrote albums. And even though now we're known for greatest hits, let's say, about 10 to 12 songs that have become hits,

In the moment, we were thinking, let's write 10 songs for an album. Let's tell a story with an album. And that would be the Escape album. And I was coming up with drum parts for all of those tunes. And then the next album after that, Frontiers, I came up with what I felt was interesting drum parts for all of those tunes. And then if you go back further...

you know, there's the Evolution album, the Departure album, the Double Live Captured album. So, you know, for me, I was thinking of them as the album as a complete statement. I like to recommend people sit down and listen to the whole album top to bottom. And one of my favorite albums is Departure because we did work on...

really pushing ourselves to move away from what had happened on the Infinity album, what we did on the Evolution album. And that's a pretty unique album. And there's some pretty killer tracks on that. One lately that I talked about on a podcast that I did is I'm Crying. Now, it's not a pop song at all, but it's an incredible performance. There is an incredible performance from all the people in the group. So just...

That's how I see it. The complete album as a statement. It's interesting. We've talked to a number of musicians, and I forget who we were talking to recently, Steve, but basically saying that they turned to the drums first as part of their composition style. And I know towards your time with Journey towards the end as far as

songwriting um that you you kind of felt that you were you were being omitted from the creation product if i'm if i'm if i'm misstating this please correct me but i'm i'm gathering or maybe this is the case that more and more the drummers are being appreciated for their composition contributions it seems more now than ever is that correct or is it still the same old slog

Well, I think the drum parts have always been a major part of music in any genre. And in fact, when we talk about a change in musical direction in many ways, it really gets down to the drums and to the drums and the bass itself.

Like, what's the difference between swing and rhythm and blues? And straight ahead swing in general doesn't have backbeats. But as soon as people started playing backbeats in the time of Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis, then that became rock and roll. The major difference isn't that it was a blues genre.

it was that the drum beat was different. And then when we get into, you know, the 60s and 70s, we get a big drum beat and then electric guitar, and that defines a new sound. And hip-hop, it's all about...

The drum groove and then how that inspired the musicians to play differently around that. So I don't think that drumming styles are underappreciated ever. They're always appreciated. What you're referring to is the creative process that a band goes through in a room, in a rehearsal room.

And when the people writing the music writes the music and then brings it

to the drummer and bass player, like what happened on the album Raised on Radio with Journey. It left Ross, Valerie, and I out of the creative process of actually coming up with our parts in the moment and helping to influence the direction of the material. So that was a situation that happened towards the end of, let's say, the creative arc of the Journey album.

you know, the classic incarnation of journey. And towards the end of that, uh, Ross and I got left out of that creative process. So in a way, uh, you know, that was to the detriment in, in, in some ways of, of the entire experience of that album. But it was decisions that were being made in the moment. What Steve's saying is drummers rule. Um,

Well, the event is coming up, like I said, on Saturday, June 28th in Westchester. And it's at Windish Studios. There's a clinic in the daytime. There's a show in the evening. You can get tickets at downtownwestchester.com slash event. We do have to wrap it up, Steve. But one last personal question because I can't make it to the clinic. I'm out of town for the weekend. Dude, I've been trying to learn brushes.

It is so hard to do. Is there anything you recommend? Is there a certain video tutorial? What do you think? Well, I actually do have a video called The Art of Playing with Brushes. That's me and six other drummers, and we're all describing what it is that we do. The simplest way that I can describe it is it's not...

the motion isn't a vert up and down motion like drumsticks. It's, it's side to side, circular, and it's a lateral motion. And so just to think about that sustaining quality of sound that you can get with the brush on the drum head. I've tried. I'm still not any good at it, but I'll work at it. Yeah.

Steve, you're one of my all-time favorites. A huge inspiration. Thank you so much for spending this time with us. Thank you. We hope you have a great time here in Westchester in the Philadelphia area. Thanks, man. Steve Smith, everybody. Take care.

He is so damn good. Did you hear what he said about your cover? He said I did a good job. Yeah, and by the way, you did a drum cover of this song. I did. It's, I think, my favorite video that you've ever done. A, it sounded great, but B, there were some really funny moments in it as well. I did some cool little faces and whatnot during that. And yeah, you can check out my YouTube page if you want to see those videos.

But that was really cool. So thank you guys for allowing me to do that. He's a legend. He's a modern drummer for like 10 years in a row or something like that. He was voted the best all-around drummer in the world. Nice guy, too. He's that good. Super nice guy. All right. That's it in music news. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to come back in a moment. So suck it. When we get back, we'll do the letter of day for the Word of the Week prize. Stay with us.

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Now, back with more of the Preston and Steve Show podcast. The haunting tones of Amy Lee and Evanescence on 93.3 WMMR. Why am I speaking like this? I do not know. It kind of lends itself to that narration. It does. Afterlife from Evanescence. It is 10.50 a.m. on this Wednesday morning. We are coming to a close today, so...

Take a moment to thank those involved in the program. Thank you to our good friend, Mr. Mark Summers. Yeah! Who stopped by, who's in town, paid his annual visit, not really promoting anything, just a hang. We could talk to Mark anytime. He's got so many great stories, and he's a smart man. I mean, there's tons of stuff that he has been a part of. Yeah, so it was good having him by here.

We had just a little while ago one of my heroes, Mr. Steve Smith, drummer of Journey and his group Vital Information Jazz Group. Top, absolutely top level musicians. Amazing in their craft. They have two events coming up. Steve's doing a drum clinic.

coming up on June 28th, so a week from this Saturday. And that is before a show that night at the Windish Studios in Westchester. 7.30 is when that show will be. And go to downtownwestchester.com slash events. Do any of these master musicians ever offer free clinics for if you have syphilis or something? You know what? You should ask them. Maybe they have a little

little bit uh we'll see uh and uh oh uh our youtube contest yes yes are we giving that away uh yeah i believe a winner has been selected oh my god we'll get we'll get to that in just a second uh yes case and while we wait i just wanted to invite uh some people out to brent porsche's live broadcast today uh it is the bend to the shore visit delco broadcast number three and uh so brent porsche is going to be at jd mcgillicuddy's in havertown it's right there on brookland boulevard

He'll be there from 3 to 7. I'm probably going to drop by between 4 and 6, maybe 4.30 to 6.30. I'm definitely going to Coffin Meyers as well. Shout out to Coffin Meyers. The best chocolate chip cookies you're ever going to have. They're right there on Brookland Boulevard as well. I'll find out if you're telling the truth when you bring some in tomorrow. I will bring... Yeah. And so, Steve, you buy them in bulk because they're smaller cookies. So you have to buy them by like the pounded stuff. I definitely will buy...

Two pounds. One for me, one for you. All right. What's the name of the place again? Coffee Meyers. So it's K-O-F-F-E-Y Meyers. Okay. Yeah. So it's like coffee, but... Yeah. Okay. Leave off the X because it's not part of the name. Yeah, please do. Yes. We have Ryan here. Hey!

Ryan Sheldonworth is joining us. Hey, guys. How we doing? Wonderful. And you? You are floating, and I love that. I loved hearing your passion talking to Steve. That was just remarkable to listen to. Thanks, man. Yeah, he's one of the greatest, and I get a little nervous when I'm talking to people. Of course you do. You admire the guy. Yeah, so thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, now you got to practice your brush strokes. I got to. I got to work on the brushes. Yep. All right, so while we're waiting to get our winner, shall we do letter of the day? Yes, sir. All right, let's get that right now. Kristen and Steve.

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Alright, so what's up today, Ryan? So just want to make a note. Pierre today will be out. He's actually at the Broadcast Pioneers of Philadelphia. They're having an event to celebrate the 40th anniversary of Live Aid. That's pretty amazing. So yeah, it'll be a conversation with Pierre and Larry Magid. So after that wraps up later on when it gets closer to the actual anniversary, we'll have that playback for you so you can hear the full conversation.

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