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Paleorobotics, revisiting the landscape of fear, and a book on the future of imagination

2024/10/24
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Virginia Morell
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Sarah Crespi:一项新的研究对黄石公园狼群重引入后生态系统变化的传统解释提出了挑战。这项研究质疑了长期以来被广泛接受的“恐惧景观”理论,该理论认为顶级捕食者的回归会通过改变猎物行为来重塑整个生态系统。研究发现,狼群对麋鹿数量的影响并没有预想中那么大,而公园内树木和鸟类数量的回升可能与其他因素有关,例如人类狩猎和长期干旱等。 Virginia Morell:这项研究结果确实对“恐惧景观”理论提出了质疑。虽然该理论自90年代后期就已提出,并在2001年被应用于黄石公园的狼群重引入案例,并被广泛接受并应用于其他地区,但新的研究表明,狼群对麋鹿行为的影响可能被高估了。研究发现,除了狼群外,灰熊、黑熊、美洲狮和人类狩猎等因素也对麋鹿数量的下降做出了贡献。此外,研究还发现,白杨树的恢复情况并不如预期的那样显著,这进一步削弱了“恐惧景观”理论的解释力。研究人员认为,狼群对麋鹿行为的影响虽然存在,但较为微弱,不足以解释生态系统中观察到的所有变化。他们还指出,其他因素,例如长期干旱和海狸的回归,也对生态系统的变化起到了作用。 Sarah Crespi:这项研究对生态系统管理策略具有重要意义。它提醒我们,不能简单地将顶级捕食者的回归视为生态系统恢复的万能工具,而需要考虑更复杂的因素和相互作用。此外,这项研究也引发了关于如何更有效地管理生态系统,以及如何平衡不同利益相关者之间需求的讨论。

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Why didn't the reintroduction of wolves in Yellowstone National Park have the widespread positive ecological impact predicted by the "landscape of fear" hypothesis?

While wolves did impact elk behavior to some extent, the elk population decline was primarily driven by other predators (bears, cougars) and especially human hunting. The expected widespread resurgence of aspen trees, a key indicator of ecosystem recovery, was limited and patchy at best, likely due to factors like drought and the complex interplay of other species like bison and beaver.

What is "paleorobotics" and what are its potential applications?

Paleorobotics uses bio-inspired robots, modeled after extinct creatures, to study evolutionary transitions and animal biomechanics. By building and testing robotic versions of extinct animals, researchers can gather data on movement and behavior that fossils alone cannot provide, leading to a deeper understanding of evolutionary history and how animals adapted to their environments.

Why are physical robots more advantageous than computational models in paleorobotics research?

Physical robots allow for real-world interaction with environments (like mud or water), providing immediate, realistic data on movement and forces. This eliminates the need for complex and potentially inaccurate simulations required in computational modeling, especially when studying extinct animals' interactions with their environments.

How can paleorobotics inform the field of "robot evolution"?

By studying the evolutionary history of animals through paleorobotics, researchers can gain insights into how environmental factors influence adaptation. This historical context can then inform the design of algorithms used in robot evolution simulations, leading to the development of robots better optimized for real-world environments.

How does Ruha Benjamin's book, "Imagination: A Manifesto," address the role of imagination in social change?

Benjamin argues that imagination is not equally distributed in society. While the wealthy are often given free rein to imagine and pursue radical futures, marginalized communities are often told their aspirations are unrealistic. She advocates for democratizing imagination, empowering everyone, especially the most vulnerable, to envision and create a more equitable future.

According to Ruha Benjamin, how does the current structure of education limit imagination?

Benjamin cites a study showing a drastic decline in creative capacity among children as they progress through traditional schooling. She contrasts this with the Finnish model, which prioritizes play and minimizes testing, resulting in high academic achievement. She argues that current educational systems prioritize management and order over student growth and creative exploration.

What are some examples of how communities are reimagining safety and challenging traditional institutions, according to Ruha Benjamin?

Benjamin points to the "Stop Cop City" movement in Atlanta, where residents oppose a $90 million police training facility and advocate for investing in social programs instead. This reflects a growing trend of communities challenging traditional policing and reimagining safety through social connection and investment in public goods.

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The reintroduction of wolves to Yellowstone in the mid-1990s led to a significant drop in the elk population. While some researchers attributed this to the "landscape of fear" hypothesis, a new study suggests other factors like hunting and other predators played a larger role. The study found only weak effects of wolf-induced fear on elk behavior, raising questions about the impact of apex predators on ecosystem restoration.
  • Reintroduction of wolves to Yellowstone led to a significant drop in the elk population.
  • New research challenges the "landscape of fear" hypothesis.
  • Hunting and other predators may have played a larger role in the elk decline.
  • The study found weak effects of wolf-induced fear on elk behavior.
  • Ecosystem restoration is complex and may require more than just reintroducing apex predators.

Shownotes Transcript

Using robots to study evolution, the last installment of our series of books on a future to look forward to, and did reintroducing wolves really restore an ecosystem?

First up this week, a new study of an iconic ecosystem doesn’t support the “landscape of fear” concept. This is the idea that bringing back apex predators has a huge impact on the behavior of their prey, eventually altering the rest of the ecosystem. Host Sarah Crespi talks with Contributing Correspondent Virginia Morell about the findings.

 

Next, using bioinspired robotics to explore deep time. Michael Ishida), a postdoctoral researcher in the Bio-Inspired Robotics Lab at the University of Cambridge, talks about studying key moments in evolutionary history, such as the transition from water to land by creating robotic versions of extinct creatures).

 

Finally in the last in our series of books on an optimistic future, books host Angela Saini talks with

Ruha Benjamin), a professor of African American studies at Princeton University and recently named MacArthur Fellow. The two discuss Benjamin’s latest book, Imagination: A Manifesto), which explores the part that imagination plays in creating new and radical futures.

 

This week’s episode was produced with help from Podigy).

 

About the Science Podcast)

Episode page: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.zu8ch5j )

Authors: Sarah Crespi; Angela Saini; Virginia Morell

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