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Testing whales’ hearing, and mapping clusters of extreme longevity

2024/11/21
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Sarah Crespi:探讨了蓝区现象,即世界各地一些地区百岁老人比例异常高的现象,并提出了关于其成因的疑问,例如基因、饮食、生活习惯或统计误差等。 Ignacio Amigo:详细介绍了蓝区研究的历史、关键人物以及其中存在的争议。他介绍了Michel Poulin对撒丁岛蓝区的年龄验证工作,Dan Buettner对蓝区的研究和商业化运作,以及Saul Newman对蓝区研究中数据错误和方法问题的质疑。Amigo还讨论了蓝区概念的商业化及其带来的伦理问题,以及蓝区研究中科学方法的局限性。他指出,虽然一些蓝区的确存在百岁老人比例高的现象,但这并不一定意味着这些地区的生活方式是长寿的唯一或主要原因。 Ignacio Amigo:详细描述了蓝区研究中涉及的三位关键人物:Michel Poulin(人口统计学家)、Dan Buettner(作家和探险家)以及Saul Newman(对蓝区研究提出质疑的科学家)。他分析了他们的研究方法、观点差异以及由此产生的争议。Amigo还讨论了蓝区研究中数据可靠性、方法论局限性以及商业化对研究的影响。他强调了对蓝区现象进行更严谨的科学研究和数据验证的必要性,并指出需要区分科学研究和商业推广之间的界限。

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What are blue zones and how are they identified?

Blue zones are regions with an unusually high number of centenarians, validated through birth and death certificates. The extreme longevity index is calculated by dividing the number of centenarians by the number of people born 100 years ago in the same place.

Why are blue zones controversial?

Controversies arise due to issues with record-keeping, potential statistical flukes, and discrepancies between lifestyle claims and actual data. Some critics argue that the high number of centenarians may be due to errors in records or changes in lifestyle over time.

What are the key criticisms of the blue zones concept?

Critics like Saul Newman highlight errors in longevity research databases, such as forged birth dates, and point out that lifestyle claims about blue zones often don't match current data, such as high alcohol consumption and low exercise rates in Okinawa.

How do defenders of blue zones respond to criticisms?

Defenders argue that the ages of centenarians in blue zones have been validated through direct record checks, and they attribute the fading of blue zones to the influence of Western lifestyle, such as increased consumption of ultra-processed foods and less physical activity.

What is the significance of Dorian Houser's hearing test on minke whales?

Houser's study revealed that minke whales have a higher hearing sensitivity than previously predicted, with an upper hearing limit of up to 64 kilohertz. This finding could change how we understand the impact of underwater noise pollution on baleen whales.

Why is understanding baleen whale hearing important for ocean noise regulation?

Regulators need accurate data on hearing ranges and sensitivities to assess which human-made sounds might harm marine mammals. The study helps minimize uncertainty by providing direct measurements of hearing, which were previously estimated based on anatomical models.

What challenges did researchers face in testing minke whale hearing?

Testing baleen whale hearing was challenging due to their size and the assumption that they couldn't be held long enough for behavioral tests. The study overcame this by using auditory evoked potential methods on adolescent minke whales in a controlled environment.

How does the hearing range of minke whales compare to humans?

Minke whales can hear frequencies up to 64 kilohertz, which is two to three octaves higher than the 20 kilohertz upper limit of human hearing. This broader range allows them to detect sounds, including those from their predators, like orcas.

What are the next steps for research on baleen whale hearing?

Researchers plan to test hearing in other baleen whale species, particularly calves of species like gray whales and humpback whales, to understand how hearing ranges vary across different species and how this impacts their ecology and responses to noise pollution.

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First up this week, where on Earth do people live the longest? What makes those places or people so special? Genes, diet, life habits? Or could it be bad record keeping and statistical flukes? Freelance science journalist Ignacio Amigo joins host Sarah Crespi to discuss the controversies around so-called blue zones)—regions in the world where clusters of people appear to have extreme longevity.

 

Next on the show, producer Kevin Mclean talks with Dorian Houser), director of conservation biology at the National Marine Mammal Foundation. Houser and colleagues temporarily captured juvenile minke whales and tested their hearing). It turns out these baleen whales have more sensitive hearing than predicted from vocalizations and anatomical modeling, which could change our understanding of how they are affected by underwater noise pollution.

 

This week’s episode was produced with help from Podigy).

 

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Authors: Sarah Crespi; Ignacio Amigo; Kevin McLean

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