Fox News Sunday 03-09-2025
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I'm Shannon Breen. President Trump dials up the pressure to end the war in Ukraine.

They're bombing the hell out of them. Can't do that. Can't do that. The president threatens to impose large-scale sanctions on Russia while pausing military aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine. Senator Lindsey Graham joins us live to discuss upcoming talks in Saudi Arabia.

And tensions mount between Israel and the U.S. as the Trump administration defends direct talks with Hamas. We'll talk to Trump hostage envoy Adam Bowler on meeting with Hamas leadership. Plus, from being accused of not standing up for women's sports to not standing at the joint address. We'll ask Congressman Ro Khanna if Democrats are out of step with Americans. Then our Sunday panel on how the Trump tariffs are shaking up the markets. All right now on Fox News Sunday.

Hello from Fox News in Washington. I hope you remember to spring your clocks forward for daylight savings time. You're here. We made it. Let's take a look at the headlines. New York Governor Kathy Hochul has declared a state of emergency for areas of Long Island dealing with wildfires that have forced evacuations. Firefighters have contained three of the four major fires, but today they're going to be battling high winds.

Pope Francis is in stable condition, spent a quiet night resting as he struggles to recover from double pneumonia. The 88-year-old pontiff released an audio message earlier in the week thanking the faithful for their prayers for his health.

Israel says it has accepted an invitation to send a delegation to meet with Hamas in Qatar tomorrow to work on the second phase of ceasefire negotiations. In a moment, we'll talk with the Trump administration's hostage envoy, Adam Boehler, who's been working intensely to advance those talks. But first, we turn to Fox News correspondent Alex Hogan on the ground in Israel. Hello, Alex.

Hi, Shannon. U.S. officials will reportedly join those negotiations in Doha this week. It comes as Hamas says they are ready to continue negotiations for a second stage in this ceasefire. Israel says it supports a plan brought forward by the U.S. that would call on Hamas to hand over...

half of the 59 hostages now and the other half when a permanent ceasefire is reached. Hamas has said that it would instead stick with the agreement signed in January, although President Trump gave what he called a final warning, posting online on Thursday, quote, release all of the hostages now, not later, and immediately return all of the dead bodies of people you murdered or it is over for you.

There's also new tension over what comes after the war. European leaders are now voicing support for the Arab-backed Gaza reconstruction plan. This would cost $53 billion. It would avoid displacing Palestinians. Israel and the U.S. argue that the strip is uninhabitable.

This weekend, the backer of Hamas, Iran, is responding to President Trump's letter demanding nuclear talks. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei scoffed at the idea, arguing it's only a means for Washington to place new limits on Tehran's military capabilities, posting online, quote, their aim is to exert their dominance...

and impose what they want. Russia this week offered to participate in nuclear talks between the U.S. and Iran. At the same time, Moscow continued to carry out attacks in Ukraine, killing more than 20 people on Saturday, according to the Ukrainian government. It comes as the White House paused military shipments to Ukraine, as well as intelligence and satellite image sharing. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says his team has held repeated calls with the U.S. on various levels.

The focus is clear. Peace as soon as possible. Security as reliably as possible. Zelensky will travel to Saudi Arabia on Monday for a meeting with Saudi Crown Prince Khalifa.

Mohammed bin Salman ahead of the country hosting U.S.-Ukrainian talks. Now, back here in the Middle East, Israel has paused the aid shipments into Gaza until a ceasefire is reached, and that is causing more food shortages for the more than two million people who cannot leave the Strip. Shannon. All right, Alex Hogan reporting from Israel. Alex, thank you very much. Joining us now, special presidential envoy for hostage affairs, Adam Buller. Welcome to Fox News Sunday.

Thanks for having me. I want to start here with a report. A reporter out of Channel 12 in Israel citing an Israeli source says that U.S. Hamas talks over hostages, quote, have failed. Fact or fiction? Where can you give us an update this morning?

I actually think they were very productive talks. They identified some opportunity to come together because we're always asking Israel, Hamas, how is it going to win? What does it look afterward? And I think they provided some very interesting views there in the discussions. Interesting views that can lead you to a release or an impasse.

Yeah, I mean, really, my goal is to release prisoners. I focused on our alive American, Adi Alexander, and our four dead Americans, getting them home as soon as possible, and how important that was to the president, to President Trump. But we also discussed what the end might look like. And I will tell you that Hamas did orient toward a long-term truce, as they called it, a truce where they would be disarmed, a truce where they would not be part of the political process,

policy and a truce where we would ensure that they are in a place where they can't hurt Israel. Part of that was rebuilding Gaza. But the discussions revolved around a few a few things that I think might actually end up being some of what you see post Steve Woodcroft.

How difficult is it to sit down with the leaders of an organization that torture, that murder people? I mean, the most recent example that has grabbed hearts and minds are the children, the Beavis children, four years old, nine months old. Do you worry that having direct conversations with them gives this group any kind of veneer of respectability or legitimacy on the world stage?

First and foremost, it is hard. I listen to the family's stories. I hug the families when we bring them home, which is unbelievable. And I know exactly what happened. So you walk into there and you kind of have to block it out emotionally because I'm at no auspices as much as someone might smile or give me a coffee as we talk. That doesn't mean that they didn't do what they do.

My belief then is dialogue is very important. I think I follow the president of the United States. Everybody said he couldn't go to North Korea. He sits with North Korea. You have real discussions. Dialogue does not mean giving things. Dialogue doesn't mean giving millions or billions of dollars like the prior administration did. Dialogue lit means sitting, hearing what someone wants and then identifying what's

Does it fit with what we want or not? And then how can you get somewhere in the middle and not have a war? And I think those kind of dialogues are very important to the president because, as he constantly says, he doesn't want war. War is a last resort. He wants a peaceful world. And so what I'm trying to do is say, one, how can I get our hostages out as soon as possible? I feel every single day when they're not out. And then how do you create the circumstances to stop this war?

So obviously there's a lot of widespread reporting that Israel did not like this idea of the U.S. having direct talks with Hamas, that they in fact found out once it was already underway or it had happened. You got a call from Ron Dermer, the head of their strategic affairs. It was described as a very heated phone call. Only you can tell us what actually happened on that call. Why did the U.S. move ahead with these direct talks, knowing Israel had objections? And where would you say the relationship is now post the Dermer phone call?

I would say that the Israelis were kept informed. I did have a discussion with Ron. Ron raised some concerns, and quite frankly, it's totally fair for Israel to have concerns if we're having direct contacts with Hamas. For all he knows, he doesn't know me. Maybe I would meet them and say, oh, they seem like such nice guys. You know, let's have beer and chips with them.

So I think there was concern. I think I was able to put him at ease, that I wasn't going to go off the rails, that it would be parameters that we would work on together. So I thought that stuff was natural. And there's no question in my mind that our greatest ally is Israel.

So Times of Israel says one of Israel's opposition points to the direct talks was its concern that the U.S. might lose interest in securing a broad hostage ceasefire deal once all American hostages are released. Can you speak to that concern? Is that something you discussed with Mr. Dermer?

Of course, well, let me tell you something. Not that, but I discussed that with the president and the president has been very clear that is all hostages. And so I will say when you think about my job, my job is to get all hostages home there because the job was given to me by the president and take my orders from the president of the United States. And so he's been very clear. And if you think about the

American that was there and the bodies that are there, that was a pretense to bring everybody home. It wasn't a one-off where then United States, we care way too much about the region. If you see the survivors that went and saw the president in the Oval Office, that was a group of Americans, but a group of full Israelis. So we have made that commitment. Israel is a strong ally. If someone wants to take hostage in Israel, we feel it too.

So the president put up a stark warning on social media with regard to Hamas and getting the hostages out. He said, turn them over or it's immediately over for you. He says a beautiful future awaits. But if you don't turn over the hostages, you are dead. Release the hostages now or there will be hell to pay later. What's the deadline and what's the hell to pay? You know, he didn't set a deadline, but let me just look at what he's done before. I remember actually two a week ago, I was in Baghdad and there's a little mark of the spot.

right where Al-Salomeini's car with an Iraqi in it

right where it was hit by two missiles. And there's a spot we all got out to look at it. And I remember the day he did it. I actually happened to be the West Wing. But it was surprising. No one else, no one else would do it because they were afraid. And this is what I will say. It may seem like he makes empty threats until he carries out the threat. And then it's not so empty, and then you're dead. And so I think in these situations, and he's done the same thing with Iran. Mm-hmm.

He's that they are walking the line on Iran because it's not so hard for us to partner with Israel and take out that nuclear capability, which probably should do. Well, several examples, as you know, the president's action come to mind. Adam Buller, thank you for your time. Just know the prayers of folks around the world are with you in this work. Thank you. Thank you so much.

It is time now for our Sunday group. Editor-in-chief of Jewish Insider, Josh Krasar. Former Biden White House Special Assistant and Director of Message Planning, Megan Hayes. Townhall.com political editor, Guy Benson, also host of The Guy Benson Show on Fox News Radio. And the Ronald Reagan Institute Director, Roger Zachheim.

Welcome to all of you. So I just want to start here back in the U.S. with all of this playing out in the Middle East. These are some of the scenes that we saw on a number of college campuses this week. We've got a security guard hospitalized. We've got thousands of dollars of damage, students harassed by people refusing to let them even attend their classes.

A number of federal agencies under the Trump administration now say that they are canceling approximately $400 million in federal grants and contracts. That's just at Columbia University. Saying this, due to the school's continued inaction in the face of persistent harassment of Jewish students,

Additional cancellations are expected to follow. Josh, are you surprised by any of this behavior that it continues or that universities haven't done a better job in managing it? I'm not surprised. We've seen anti-Semitism on college campuses rise over the last two years. And it only was Trump's election that really spurred a lot of these administrators to actually do something about it. And apparently it wasn't enough at Columbia University. You saw a

an Israeli studies class being disrupted by pro-Hamas activists. You have these buildings being taken over and you have these administrators indulging some of the most radical extremist actors on campus. And that is what's going on here. And the

The administration is now threatening or actually taking steps to withhold grants and a significant amount of money to these universities. It's going to really hurt the campus's abilities to fund research and actually do productive things because they weren't able to crack down on extremists and bad actors in their own midst.

Yeah, and Columbia has a response to this in part. They say, we take our legal obligations seriously. We understand how serious this announcement is and are committed to combating anti-Semitism, ensuring the safety and well-being of our students, faculty, and staff. Good enough, Roger? No, this is way overdue. This is, of course, with an exclamation point that we're going to go ahead as a government, as a federal government, and throw the book at these universities that are violating the law. I mean, this is based on a violation of the Civil Rights Act.

It is against the law to engage in anti-Semitism. I mean, this is something that the Biden administration did not enforce, and it's way overdue, whether it's on the basis of immigration, removing visas for foreign students that are engaged in this conduct, or if it's the grants that Josh just referenced. But...

These sorts of things are steps that outsiders are taking, that it sends the government. It should be happening from within the university. They haven't done it. It's the inmates running the asylum here. The problem is not just the students. It's the faculty, too. I had a conversation, Shannon, with a president of a university that's been plagued with these issues. And

This president told me that 20 to 30 percent of the faculty use their classroom as a form to spew hatred. The balance are silenced. The

The faculty is silenced. I mean, they can't teach their students. They can't actually engage in dialogue and discussion of ideas. Rather, it's the hatred that seems to be something that these teachers, these faculty are pushing. Until we get after that, we're not going to solve the problem. So, Megan, what about that idea? This now that we're finding out at least one person's student visa has been revoked because of their involvement here. It sounds like signaling from Secretary Rubio. There's more to come. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that we are

part of being an American is being able to protest peacefully and have your First Amendment right, but that's not at the expense of all these other students on campus. It's not just Jewish students. It's all the students. And like you were saying about the faculty, they have a widespread problem of faculty posting things on official websites. That is a problem. That is not free speech. You work for the university. You are there to educate people. So I...

I don't actually disagree with the government actually withholding funding here. People have a right to protest and they can do that peacefully. These are not peaceful actors here. Well, to the point about revoking some of these student visas, Abed Ayyub, who is with the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, says this should concern all Americans, meaning the revocations. This is a First Amendment and freedom of speech issue and the administration will overplay its hand, Guy.

If you are a guest in this country with a student visa and you come here and you break the law and you harass Jews and you engage in support, in some cases material, for a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, you should not be in this country. Secretary Rubio said it during his confirmation hearing. If they were applying to get in and we knew that they loved Hamas, we wouldn't let them in. So if they come here and manifest their support for Hamas,

at the expense of Jewish students in this giant rolling civil rights violation at these schools, the absolute least I think the government can do is take the worst actors who break the law and throw them out of the country. And that is a base test of seriousness as a society and a civilization. I'm glad we are finally seeing some of it. And quickly, that statement from Columbia, with all due respect to that university,

Nonsense. We take this all very seriously. No, they don't. That's been abundantly clear for a year and a half. And maybe they will finally start to take it actually seriously because there are consequences coming their way at last.

Well, one thing the panel all agreed on, we're going to put that down in the books, but something you may not agree on are the tariffs issues. So there's been a lot of back and forth about what's in, what's out. And Roger, Kevin Hassett over at the National Economic Council, the director there said the reason they've lifted on the Canadians and Mexicans is because they've made some progress on this issue of fentanyl. China hasn't, and that's why they're going to continue to get the heaviest burden of this. Who knows what happens April 2nd?

That's the pause for now on those other tariffs. Well, President Trump loves tariffs. He makes no secret of that. He emphasized that in his joint session. But I think Kevin Hassett is making a point that I think Americans can understand, even conservatives like Larry Kudlow can get around, which is it's increasingly explained as a proxy for security issues.

Fentanyl is one. With China, it's fentanyl, but I think it's a broader concern that President Trump led on in his first administration, which is China is the premier military threat, security threat to the United States. On the night that President Trump

gave his joint session of Congress speech, China announced a 7.5% increase in its military spending over a two-year period. It's over 15%. President Trump only mentioned China with respect to tariffs. So I think as we look at what President Trump is doing with the tariffs, yes, there's economic peace. There is this pushing of Canada and Mexico.

A lot of conservatives concerned about, hey, why are we doing this for allies? Let's focus on the adversaries. On the other hand, as it relates to China, I actually see this as the most forward thing President Trump is doing to pressure Xi on the security front. And that, I think, is important. And, Guy, really quickly, I want to get your comment before we go. Because we have people like Senator Kennedy, a Republican out there, saying he's worried about the tariffs because what people can't sleep at night about is how they're going to pay their bills. And they worry that this will happen.

have a negative impact. Yeah, if there's higher prices, that's part of the reason why President Trump won the election, because of the high prices for four years under Joe Biden and inflation. So I think you're seeing a lot of uncertainty, both over on Capitol Hill. Will the Republicans prevent this $4 trillion tax increase at the end of the year? And this on again, off again, pause for a month chaos when it comes to tariffs.

People are a little jittery about that. And I think many voters said, can we just go back to the 2019 Trump economy? That's what I think a lot of people are hoping to see with some stability here. Yeah, he says that's where we're going. He's got a plan. All right, panel, don't go far. We're going to see you later in this hour. But up next, Democrats making headlines for all the wrong reasons following President Trump's joint address to Congress.

Congressman Ro Khanna is one of the few I saw standing and applauding at times. So what's his advice to the rest of his party? He joins us live. And later, Senate Budget Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham is here to talk funding the government. With a Friday deadline looming, how close are we to a government shutdown?

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President Trump's command of the national political debate has Democrats struggling with how to respond and connect with everyday Americans. In a moment, we're going to talk with Democratic Congressman Ro Khanna of California. But first, Fox News Chief Washington Correspondent Mike Emanuel takes a look at how Democrats went viral this week and not in the way they had planned. Hey, Mike.

Shannon, there are a number of examples of why critics suggest it's been a rough week for Democrats. It was clear during the president's joint address, Democrats were determined they would not cheer anything, including a young man whose late father, a veteran and police officer, had inspired him to serve.

President Trump announced he would achieve his dream, attending West Point. They also didn't cheer the 13-year-old boy with brain cancer who has always wanted to be a police officer. And the president announced he would be an honorary Secret Service agent. I don't know why we can't fully celebrate. I mean, I have a 13-year-old myself.

And I mean, thank God she's never had cancer. But I think that's something we could all celebrate that. And I think it was like it was a touching moment. There's Texas Congressman Al Green, who was tossed out of the president's address for heckling the president. Even some of his liberal colleagues question Green's behavior. Well, I think a lot of people would feel that Congressman Green went too far and he was removed for it.

In other words, there was a minor disruption and he was removed. And then Greene was censured by the House, including 10 Democrats.

Green and some Democrats broke into song on the House floor, prompting Republicans to vow to strip them of their committee assignments. There was also Democrats going viral for this Choose Your Fighter video featuring House progressives looking like they're ready to fight. It was widely panned, all leading to criticism that Democrats are struggling to shape their own narrative.

Shannon. All right, Mike, thank you very much. Joining me now, Democratic Congressman Ro Khanna of California, who serves on the House Oversight Committee. Welcome back to Fox News Sunday. Congressman, you've had some tough talk for your party post-election about how they floundered, where they failed to connect with the American people, how they can move forward based on the events of this week. Do you feel like they're listening to what you're telling them?

Well, chatting to show all our hits for the week. Look, that was not a good look. We should have stood for the boy with cancer. You stand for the president of the United States out of respect for the American people. I agree with Senator Fetterman that it's really about showing our heart. I mean, you stand for the widow of the firefighter. And here's what happens. The story should have been on President Obama.

But, you know, he's talking about a balanced budget. The House Republican budget actually is adding two point eight trillion to the deficit. We should have been talking about the Medicaid cuts. Instead, we're talking about our own behavior. And that's a distraction from us getting out our economic message. And we can debate the budget. But to be clear, President Trump continues to say no cuts to Medicaid. Now it's up to the parties, to the lawmakers on the Hill, your colleagues to figure that out.

But I want to get back to this. A writer over at Unheard says that your party is missing an opportunity. Here's his headline. Democrats are wasting a populist moment. They learned nothing from the election. Thanks to their uncritical defense of all things branded woke, Democrats are now viewed by working class voters of all races as litigious, censorious and elitist. Is there an internal perception with the party, a self-perception that that is how many people now view them?

I think we have to make sure that we are patriots. We convey that we love this country. It's the greatest country. We understand that the working class and middle class got shafted in America because of corporate offshoring, because industries left. And that we're the party that's going to make us a manufacturing superpower again. We're the party that's going to stand up for Medicaid and health insurance. We're the party that's going to be for raising wages.

And we've got to lead with the economic message. And that's something that the party is realizing. There are people like Chris Deluzio, like Haley Stevens, like Pat Ryan who are pushing the party in that direction. In fact, we have a group called the Economic Patriots in the House, a group across the ideological spectrum to redefine the party in exactly that way.

I've got to say, when I was watching Tuesday night, I did see you stand up and applaud at times. You were kind of the only person on that side of the room in many cases. Was there a discussion amongst Democrats before or after about how you were going to react and how that reaction was ultimately received?

Shannon, there was a lot of discussion. A few of us said that we should be respectful because it's about the institutions of American democracy. I mean, I want the Republicans to stand when we have a Democratic president, and we will. The parties go back and forth in this country. And what I don't want, I mean, can you imagine...

if we continue down this line, that when we have a Democratic president, what if the Republicans say they're just not going to attend? And then when we have a Republican president, if the Democrats don't attend, the country needs to focus on our common goals and the challenges with China. And I just hope that we learn from this the next time we do have an escort committee. We stand up respectfully when the

The president comes in. You can vigorously disagree, as I do, but still respect some of the institutions of our country and some of our traditions. Do you think that Congressman Al Green respectfully disagreed or disrespectfully disagreed? Did you think his actions were appropriate? And why didn't you vote to censure him?

Well, I agreed with Congressman Raskin that he shouldn't have disrupted the extent he did. He was asked to leave. That was appropriate. And I thought that was the appropriate consequence, that he had to leave on national television from the chamber.

I didn't vote to censure him because he didn't engage in violence or something that was... I mean, he left. He was asked to leave. He left. That was the consequence, and he did that. And I am ultimately a supporter of free speech, so he was...

asked to leave because it was disorderly, but he had a speech right, and I don't think that that should be censured in terms of the free speech of the country. Okay. I want to talk about an issue that your party has had some internal and some public conversations about. This week, your governor there in California, Gavin Newsom, he's got a new podcast, in case you haven't heard. He said he thinks it's, quote, deeply unfair to allow transgender athletes to play in female college and youth sports. Rachel,

Rachel Badoe over Politico writes this quote, Why the hell has it taken this long for a high profile Democrat to say what most people in the country are thinking? She goes on to note a January New York Times Ipsos poll found 79% of the public believe trans athletes should not play in women's sports.

including a whopping 67 percent of Democrats. Now, a post that you made on X sounds like you might disagree with where Governor Newsom is on this. You've urged your party to get more in line with America where they are on the issues. So what about this one?

Well, Shannon, you know I'm always a straight shooter, so I'll tell you where I stand. I know many of your viewers will disagree with it, but I was perplexed by the governor because he supported, Governor Newsom supported, along with Jerry Brown, a law in California in 2013 that's been on the books for 10 years. And that law says that

trans kids do get to participate in sports, K through 12. And we have a California Intercollegiate Federation that sets the standards to balance the inclusion of trans kids with fairness and

and safety. And so I guess I didn't understand what the governor was saying. And for a decade, he's supported this law. It's still the law on the books. Is he saying we need to repeal that law? I believe that that law has worked in California. And I don't think there should be a federal ban. And we should have the state athletic associations like the California Intercollegiate Federation set the standards so that you balance inclusion with fairness and safety.

Well, that is a political evolution a lot of folks are having these days. So we'll follow the conversation within your party and more broadly as well. Congressman Khanna, thank you always for your time. Thank you, Shannon. OK, Russia steps up attacks on Ukraine after the U.S. pauses aid and intelligence information to the embattled country. DUP Senator Lindsey Graham joins us on that and rising tensions between the U.S. and Iran this weekend. He is live next. Not feeling the grays, but don't.

President Trump is proposing large-scale banking sanctions and tariffs on Russia until a ceasefire and a final peace settlement is reached with Ukraine, as Russia continues to pound the country this weekend with missiles and drones. Joining me now, GOP Senator Lindsey Graham. Good to have you back, Senator.

Thank you. So there's a pause right now on Ukrainian aid and intelligence sharing. There are reports that that is hampering Ukraine's ability to defend itself against this incoming new wave of attacks from Russia. Have you talked with the White House about that? How concerned are you about the long term impacts of the pause?

Yeah, I talked to Mike Walz a couple of days ago. The goal is to end the war honorably and justly. Zelenskyy blew it in the White House. We'd been working on this mineral steel for a very long time, but we are where we are. Yeah, I am worried about cutting off intelligence.

and weapons to Ukraine as long as the fighting is going on. If we pull the plug on Ukraine, it'll be worse than Afghanistan. I don't think President Trump has any desire to do that. But until we have a ceasefire, I would give Ukraine what they need in terms of intelligence and weapons to defend themselves. In terms of Russia, I will be introducing sanctions on their banking sector and on their energy sector next week.

urging them to get to the table. If they don't engage in ceasefire and peace talks with the administration, we should sanction the hell out of them. And I'll have legislation to do that next week. Okay, we will be tracking that. In the meantime, you mentioned the rare earth minerals deal that has been stalled after the disastrous meeting at the White House last week. Disastrous. But listen, you were one of the folks who met with President Zelensky before he went there. Senator Chris Van Hollen was as well. He was with me on the show last week. Here's how he described that deal.

It was extortion, pure and simple. It would be like in the middle of World War II, you know, FDR saying to Churchill, we're not going to help you against the Nazis and Hitler unless you give up half of your mineral resources and half of your coal. All right. Two things. Do you what do you make of his characterization of the deal? And he was explaining it as we understood it at that time. Maybe it's evolved. But secondly, do you think that his Democratic colleagues or that he urged Slilinski to go to the White House and reject the deal?

No, I don't. But what Chris said, I like Chris personally, is just ridiculous. We're trying to integrate our economies. We're trying to make sure that Ukraine has value to the American economy, a win-win situation. They're the richest country in Europe in terms of critical minerals,

which is the oil of the 21st century. So doing a deal with Ukraine is beneficial to both countries. It's not extortion. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to do a deal with Ukraine where we can make $500 billion in the critical mineral space for our own economy, give them money, help them develop

their resources so they can grow their economy and defend themselves. That's not extortion. That's a good business deal. And to all these Democrats who are worried about this deal, what the hell did you do to deter Russia from invading Ukraine? What did you do after Russia invaded Ukraine? Pretty much nothing.

President Trump's going to end this war justly. We should do this critical minerals deal. We should keep arming Ukraine and providing them intelligence until it's ceasefire. And we should tell Russia, if you don't engage in ceasefire discussions, we're going to sanction you. We've got to put pressure on both sides to get them to the table to end this war. The minerals deal is a win-win.

Well, it sounds like there's reporting this morning that the president needs more than just the minerals deal in order to move forward with giving back, you know, the aid, the intelligence sharing with Ukraine. So listen, this all heads to Saudi Arabia this week. Top U.S. and Ukrainian officials are going to be there negotiating. What would you need to see to expect or to call that a success? What concrete things coming from those meetings?

Well, I think we want to find out what does peace look like in the eyes of Ukraine. They've already suggested they're ready for a ceasefire. They've already suggested they're ready for peace talks. Sit down with Ukraine this coming week and find out what a good deal looks like to them. Then urge the Russians to sit down with the White House and compare notes and end this war. Shuttle diplomacy will work. But I want the Russians to know that

that I don't mind talking with you about how to end this war, but you're going to be held accountable for this war. And if they don't come to the table, the Russians, we should up sanctions like President Trump indicated. But you're not helping anybody during these discussions if you do not provide the weapons necessary for Ukraine to defend themselves. You're not helping end the war if you deny intelligence to Ukraine to defend themselves while the fighting's going on. So,

I'm hoping we will get a view of the Ukraine's view of how the war ends next week and begin to find a way to end the war. Well, another foreign policy challenge, tensions ratcheting up between Iran and the U.S. The president told our Maria Bartiromo he sent over a letter to Iran's supreme leader, supreme leader on X this weekend, not mentioning President Trump by name or the U.S., but saying he won't work with coercive governments or be bullied by them. Where do we go next with Iran?

Because their nuclear program is of immense concern to people around the globe. It's an immense concern to me. It's the most destabilizing event on the planet. It's for the Iranians, I told, to have a nuclear weapon. He would use it to further his religious agenda, which is to purify Islam in his own image as a Shiite, destroy the Jewish state, and to drive us out. He would use a nuclear weapon if he had it.

He has enough enriched uranium for six bombs. There's no commercial purpose for enriched uranium at 60%. We run peaceful nuclear reactors, 3% to 5% of enrichment. Here's what a good deal will look like to me.

no more enrichment for Iran, take all the highly enriched uranium out of Iran, I'm willing to buy it from them, and allow them to have nuclear power where fuel rods are provided by either Russia or China or some international group. Enrichment is the process that you use to make a bomb. Iran should not be allowed to enrich.

The United Arab Emirates has a nuclear program. They don't enrich uranium. They get fuel rods from us. That should be the outcome, and it should be quick. If you want to negotiate with Iran, you need to have an endgame of where they have no nuclear capability to make a bomb when it's over, and you should put them on the clock.

And if you don't put them on the clock and this thing drags out, they're going to rearm and retool. So I don't mind talking to them, but I want to end game to make sure they have no nuclear material to make a bomb when it's over. They're out of the enrichment business and that we can verify everything I just said.

Okay, before we leave that region, I want to talk about Syria as well. There's a lot of news filtering in this weekend and really a ton crossing the wires this morning as well about mass executions and slaughtering of minority groups there, including a lot of Christians, the Alawite minorities as well. What can we be doing? What should we be doing?

Well, number one, the guy who's in charge now, Ghulani, was associated with al-Baghdadi. He's wearing a suit. Does that mean he's no longer a jihadist? I don't know. But their actions are very reminiscent of what happened in Iraq and Syria when ISIS took over. They're going after their religious enemies, the Alawites or Shiites.

These guys are Sunnis. They're killing Christians. I am very worried. I would urge the administration to have somebody focused on Syria. Saudi Arabia is talking to Ghulani, the head of HTS. If you're going to talk about removing sanctions on Syria, you better have conditions to make sure they meet them before you remove those sanctions. Is this al-Qaeda or ISIS-like?

light? Or is this some new form of Islam that we can all live with? I don't know. But I've never been more worried about the deterioration of Syria than I am now. The world needs to get engaged with Syria before it's too late. OK, we got to go. But quickly, do enough Democrats vote with you in the Senate to avoid a shutdown on Friday?

Yeah, I believe we won't shut the government down come Friday, but the CR is terrible on defense and the border. I want a commitment. We're going to have more money for border and defense before I vote for the CR, but I think we'll keep the government funded. The only thing we need to be shutting down is Iran's nuclear program, not our government. All right. Senator, always good to see you. Thanks for your time.

Thank you. Coming up, President Trump turns mediator as some members of his cabinet reportedly clash with Elon Musk. Senate panels back to weigh in on that and Democrats struggle to find an effective message. Hey, what's up, guys? It's Chris Pratt here. I know you're the cabinet members to keep good people. I don't want to see a big cut where a lot of good people are cut. I want the cabinet members to keep the good people and the people that aren't doing a good job that are unreliable, don't show up to work, etc. Those people can be cut.

President Trump on Thursday clarifying his priorities amid cuts to the federal workforce and making clear that while he supports Elon Musk and Doge, it is the leaders of each federal agency who will now be calling the shots on personnel decisions. Let's bring back our panel. OK, The New York Times had it under this headline inside the explosive meeting where Trump officials clashed with Elon Musk.

Again, the president made clear he supports the mission of the Musk initiative, but it's time to be more refined in the approach. From now on, the secretaries would be in charge. The Musk team would only advise.

Josh, the president says there is no beef between Secretary Rubio and Elon Musk or anyone else. That's fake news. But clearly there were some tensions. Look, this is the kind of move you make when you're looking at some polls that show people may want to get rid of some of the waste and fraud in the bureaucracy. But when it comes to cutting valuable services that people rely on, and one of the most shocking nuggets in that New York Times story was that Sean Duffy, the transportation secretary, yelled at Elon Musk and said, you're

You're cutting air traffic controllers, people who keep our skies safe. That is a really notable moment and one that shows that I think the backlash, maybe not a huge backlash, but it could get worse if Trump doesn't restrain Musk and some of his worst impulses. Well, Megan, it begs the question then, Elon Musk has been very good in taking public fights onto Twitter, a lot of pressure there. So even if a secretary makes an independent decision, any thoughts you have that he might go public with his criticism or pressure?

on them. Well, that's fine. But the president is going to be the one that has to pay the consequences. And the Republicans in Congress are going to be the ones that ultimately pay the consequences in midterm elections. So Elon Musk can go to Twitter all he wants. But the fact of the matter is, is that Congress and the American people are not happy with a lot of these cuts that are being made. They're losing programs and valuable programs. They're talking about Department of Education. That's going to cut

lunches for kids in underprivileged schools. There's just a lot of things that aren't, that are being done that don't make a lot of sense. And Elon Musk can take that to Twitter. But the fact of the matter is, is the American people have the final say and will in the midterms. Well, and you've got Senator Bernie Sanders out there saying this about the efforts. In order to make themselves even wealthier, they want to dismember the federal government.

and cut programs that low-income and working people desperately need. They want to cut these programs so that they can give the 1% $1.1 trillion in tax breaks. Guy, does the GOP run the risk that those arguments begin to really take traction? Well, Bernie Sanders is a socialist who's done

rather well for himself, actually, with his three homes. But he always wants the government to be nothing but bigger all the time, much, much bigger. And so I'm sure he's very angry that someone is trying to rein in some of the insanity. I do think the way that we heard President Trump talk about this issue and frame it up in the soundbite is appealing to people. And a lot of the polling suggests that Doge generally in the mission is popular. The devil is in the details. I think Trump

signaled the way that he wants this to go. And I think it's important for Musk and his team to recognize they have to be, yes, swift and yes, aggressive, but also smart about what they're doing and not make decisions and then have to dial them back and rehire people that they've already fired. I think they can do both. Do it well, do it smart, but also keep in mind there are doubters and public opinion can move one way or the other. Well, in public

opinion was a little rough on Democrats this week. You heard my interview with Congressman Ro Khanna. They had some tough bits, including this video that got a lot of attention, but maybe not going viral in the way that they wanted to. This choose your fighter video. Well, Jimmy Kimmel, no supporter of conservatives or President Trump had this reaction to that video. Yeah, we're not going to stand back and take it anymore. We're going to fight. What is that supposed to do besides embarrass everyone involved with it?

Roger, if you're losing Jimmy Kimmel on the left, it might be a tricky week for you. Jimmy Kimmel has a sense of humor and Democrats show they don't. And that was a big takeaway I think we saw at the joint session. Slockin, Senator Slockin is actually was a sharp and smart move by Democrats to put her up. She was sober.

She is senator, won a seat in a state that President Trump won in Michigan. And she was actually pushing the Democrats and the country to really litigate over whether President Trump is inheriting and advancing a legacy, in this case of Ronald Reagan on peace through strength. It was litigating the

conservative principles and whether or not President Trump was actually advancing them. That was really sophisticated and actually reflects how much President Trump has moved the Democratic Party, where the Democratic senator is talking about kind of Reagan-esque principles. All right, Megan, we've got 10 seconds left, but because it's your party, I'll give you the final word. I think that the Democrats need to focus more on the policies and litigating policies and stay off the vibes. That's not going to work for us. And I think that they're going to

be primaried if they are not careful here. Yeah, I'm not going to be dancing on video anytime soon. I am not cool enough. And so it's hard to criticize other people for doing it. OK, panel, thank you very much. OK, well, most foreign policy headlines remain focused on Russia, Ukraine and the Middle East. There are growing concerns about China's intentions, not only for Taiwan, but its support for enemies of the U.S. as well. New York Times bestselling author Joel Rosenberg is a brand new novel out this week, The Beijing Betrayal. I talked with him earlier this week about

All the ways China is involved with multiple foreign policy challenges now confronting the White House. President Trump focused more on China than any other country in the State of the Union address. Tuesday night, he spent a lot more time really laying out a series of policies that deal more with China. Obviously, Russia and Ukraine as well. But he's trying to prevent a massive crisis.

takeover of the Pacific by Communist China and the global economic sphere. China's average tariff on our products is twice what we charge them. This system is not fair to the United States and never was. He is very focused on China, but I'm not sure if he's even focused enough right now on Taiwan because he's got Iran and Ukraine really cooking and he's trying to deal with both those issues and Gaza. The commander of the Indo-Pacific

Pacific Command for U.S. forces has voiced a lot of concern in recent weeks that this is really inching much closer to what he thinks could be an actual move on Taiwan. But you talk about how China has tentacles and so many other things. They're also really helping with ambitions in Iran, their nuclear program, the way they want to progress. They're selling weapons, you say, to Israel's enemies. I mean, our ally in that region. So they really are involved in many other things that we are focused on. Yeah.

When you think about Communist China, you need to think obviously about the risk that if they were to move on Taiwan and take this little democratic ally island.

They are creating a stepping stone towards dominance in the Pacific, and they'll freak out every American ally. But it's not just the Pacific. China's moving to build has built a 25 year strategic alliance with the Iranian regime, the most dangerous terrorist regime on the planet. Communist China is buying 90 percent of the black market oil that Iran is selling in defiance of international and American sanctions.

they're buying 90 percent of it where's that money going it goes to tehran and it goes to hamas it goes to hezbollah it goes to the huts it goes to it goes to fight and kill israelis and of course a lot of palestinians are dying as a result of that what do you make of president trump and president xi's relationship i think uh president trump with xi jinping and i would say vladimir putin and this is controversial uh but i think

I think he respects both, not because he thinks—he's not in bed with them, but he knows these two men have ICBMs, they have nuclear weapons, and they have ambitions to do great harm. Trump is trying to work with both men to see if there's any way to create—

leverage, but also deals that get us off the path, as he says, to World War III. Russia invaded Ukraine. Iran attacked Israel from seven directions. And Xi Jinping hasn't moved yet. So Trump's discussions with the president are critical. We all wish for that, the best, this administration in finding those solutions. Joel, congrats on the new book. And thank you so much.

Up next, 60 years ago, civil rights marchers faced a brutal assault that became known as Bloody Sunday, shocking the nation. Most Americans watching it unfold on their TV screens. We're live on the ground in Selma, Alabama for today's commemorations. We'll take you there next. With you at...

Americans are remembering a landmark event in the civil rights movement. Today, people from all over the world will walk across the Edmund Pettus Bridge to honor the Bloody Sunday March. Fox News correspondent Madison Scarpino is live in Selma with more. Hello, Madison.

Good morning, Shannon. 60 years ago, hundreds of unarmed, peaceful civil rights activists led by Martin Luther King Jr. were planning to march from Selma to the state capital of Montgomery for voting rights. The protesters were met at the bridge by Alabama state troopers who tear gassed and brutally beat them with clubs.

Cheyenne Webb-Chrisburg was just a child when she was at the march 60 years ago. She says the events of Bloody Sunday will never leave her mind. I was midway of the marches. I'll never forget. As I looked down, I saw policemen with billy clubs. I saw the tear gas masks. I saw state troopers on horses. And I had become very, very frightened.

Because I just knew that something was going to happen. It was a pivotal moment for civil rights. It led to the Voting Rights Act of 1965 prohibiting racial discrimination in voting. There have been several events this weekend to honor the march. That includes a Sunday morning service happening soon with speakers like U.S. Senator Raphael Warnock and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, a bipartisan group

of around 40 members of Congress will reportedly be here today. And people honoring Bloody Sunday will walk across the bridge at noon local time. There will then be a rally and then a tribute gospel concert for the foot soldiers. Shannon. Madison Scarpino reporting from Selma. Thank you very much for that story.

Just a quick note, my podcast today, Live in the Bream, drops fresh today. I had a conversation this week with one of the lawmakers who will be there in Selma, Democratic Senator Chris Coons. We talked about his faith, how it impacts his personal life, his political decisions, and his relationships on both sides of the aisle. Check out Live in the Bream wherever you like to get your podcasts. That is it for us today. Thank you for joining us. I'm Shannon Bream. Have a wonderful week. You made it through the time change. We'll see you next. Fox News Sunday.

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