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U.S.-China tensions rise. I'm Shannon Bream in Kansas for a special edition of Fox News Sunday from the heartland.
They've really taken advantage of our country for a long period of time. We're resetting the table. Fallout over President Trump's aggressive tariff strategy, jolting countries around the world, making waves from the farm to America's kitchen tables. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins joins us live to discuss the impact on markets, supply chains and food prices. At the end of the day, this president committed to putting Americans first. And as part of that are our farmers and our ranchers. Then...
They've made farmers the collateral damage. We're in the middle of what I would say is an idiotic trade war. We'll talk with Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, who's emerging as a leading Trump critic as Democrats look to unify their message, and Oklahoma Senator James Lankford about Republicans' goal of making the president's tax cuts permanent. Plus.
How the Liberation Day pause is playing for farmers on the front lines. We'll get reaction from a sixth generation farm family that has weathered its share of storms. Your whole life is tied up in the success, the ups and downs of what happens here. The tough times usually create the better times. It's an important lesson. All this week on Fox News Sunday from the heartland.
Hello from Fox News in Washington. We begin with a look at your headlines. Millions of Christians around the world are celebrating Palm Sunday today, the official start of Holy Week. In St. Peter's Square at the Vatican, Pope Francis appeared in a wheelchair while a cardinal read a homily that he had prepared. The pope is recovering from a life-threatening case of pneumonia.
President Trump's Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, met face-to-face Saturday with Iran's foreign minister in Oman to launch high-stakes negotiations over the future of Tehran's nuclear program. Next round of talks set for Saturday. President Trump and several cabinet members spent Saturday night at an ultimate fighting championship match in Miami. Thousands in the crowd greeted them with a standing ovation and some pretty raucous cheers.
Coming up in a moment, we're going to talk exclusively with Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins as part of our special look at the state of the heartland. But we begin with Madeline Rivera here in Washington with more on President Trump's shifting moves on tariffs. Good to see you. What a week it's been, Shannon. Good to see you, too. President Trump said last week he was not considering tariff exemptions for any country or company, but he also did not rule it out. This weekend, his administration made a change.
In another twist on tariffs, the Trump administration says smartphones, computers and other electronics will no longer be subject to some of the tariffs on China. It's a break for consumers who are potentially facing higher prices for products like iPhones, many of which are made in China. You know, it's called flexibility. You have to have certain flexibility.
The guidance posted by Customs and Border Protection Friday is the latest shift after a week of whiplash that sent stocks tumbling. Now the pressure is on to reach a deal. As the clock ticks on the 90-day pause on higher tariffs, a 10% baseline tariff on foreign imports remains in effect.
More than 75 countries have now reached out to the Trump administration. Phones have been ringing off the hook to make deals. The only exception is China, which faces a whopping 145% rate. In retaliation, China has slapped a 125% tariff on U.S. goods, making this clothing store owner in Michigan nervous. It's going to affect everything, the scotch tape, the paper, everything. It's...
Mass chaos, I think, it'll be. The Trump administration eyeing not only stocks but the Supreme Court, which handed down a mixed bag of rulings. The court sided with the administration in its firing of thousands of federal employees, saying the nonprofit groups that sued did not have standing. But in a separate case, the justices also said the government must facilitate the return of a Maryland man who was deported to El Salvador last month. If the Supreme Court...
I said bring somebody back. I would do that. The administration alleges Kilmar Abrego-Garcia had ties to MS-13. Still, officials admit they made a mistake because an immigration judge had ruled years ago he could not be sent back to his home country, citing safety. A federal judge is ordering the administration to give daily updates about Abrego-Garcia's location and what steps it's taking to bring him back to the U.S., Shannon. All right, Madhuri Veera, tracking it for us. Thank you very much. You got it.
So now to our special look at how America's heartland is reacting to President Trump's efforts to level the playing field for their exports around the world, particularly our nation's farmers and ranchers. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins joins us for an exclusive discussion about where things go from here. Welcome. Good to have you this morning.
Good morning, Shannon. Great to be with you. Okay, so let's start with this. We traveled to Kansas this week. As we were getting ready to go talk to those farmers, this headline caught my eye. Trump's tariffs are no fun for farmers like me. Now, this author goes on to detail how all the inputs he needs for his business, all of those different materials and ingredients and supplies,
They're going up. The price is on them. And he said some of the things he would have harvested this year, like some lumber, he can't do because he said the export market has, quote, collapsed. So all these things adding up, threatening the very, you know, existence and survival of his business. What's your message to him?
Well, first of all, I think it's really important to realize that what President Trump is doing in his vision and his leadership is to completely realign the world economy. But in so doing, put America first and therefore American farmers first. Shannon, for decades, decades, the way that we have been treated in this country and especially our farmers and ranchers is
is absolutely stunning. We have been living under a tariff regime, but it has been the regime of other countries. You know, Japan with a 700% tariff on our rice, Brazil with an almost 20% tariff on our ethanol, which I know you were in Kansas probably talking to some ethanol corn farmers.
The EU takes less pork with 450 million people than does Honduras with 10 million people. I mean, it is one thing after another. And I'll be honest with you, I didn't realize how egregious it was until I took this job. I mean, I've heard President Trump talk about it for a long time. I was in his last White House as his domestic policy chief.
So I was somewhat aware. But once I took the job as agriculture secretary and really began to dig in, the way our ag producers are treated across this world, both with high tariffs and with non-tariff barriers like unsubstantiated science claims,
is just, it's egregious. So the president is working to fix it. I don't know that any other political leader in our lifetime would have ever been able to do what he is doing. I know that our farmers and our ranchers realize that we're in a short, hopefully short period of uncertainty.
But ultimately, I believe the age of prosperity for all Americans, but especially for this segment, will be unprecedented. Well, and some of them are now they're hearing conversation that there may be some subsidy or help for them if the tariff situation does not go well this time around. Politico reports this.
Though Trump is starting to explore another bailout, the fund he used to assist farmers the first time is now nearly depleted. It says farmers have been his most loyal constituency, but now they could be one of the groups hardest hit by his trade war. And listen, these farmers that we talked to, they're like, we don't want a handout. We don't like the talk of a bailout. We just want to keep our bargain with the American people to provide them safe, reliable food products and for around the world.
as they said, if they need the safety net, if it's there, they'll take it. But what if it isn't there? Well, it will be there, Shannon. And the fund is not depleted. But let me tell you this, the amount of spending by the Biden administration in using the fund that they're talking about, which is at the USDA, to help in situations like this, that fund was worth
I mean, just on the DEI grants and the Green New Deal climate change, it's stunning what we have found that they were spending that money on. But I'm already talking to Congress. I had lunch with Senator Hoeven and Senator Bozeman, both leaders on the Ag Committee. We feel confident that if necessary, there will be money there to help these farmers.
We won't know the real results of this. And hopefully, Shannon, I mean, you know, 75 countries is a real number. I've been talking to a lot of them, too. We've already got delegations that have hit the ground from Vietnam and Japan and Thailand and other places. I mean, I do believe this will be a short term negotiation period and then we'll move into, again, the economy opening up. We've already seen the numbers come in on jobs and inflation. Things look really, really good. But
if it is necessary. We won't know that for some time. We will make sure. The president has said, I've got the farmers back, and my job is to ensure that we effectuate that promise to our farmers. So let's talk about some of the federal cuts that have been going on. With respect to the USDA, Reuters reports there are a couple of main programs, the Emergency Food Assistance Program and Local Food Purchase Assistance.
Say it's going to add up to about a billion dollars in cuts. And this is food that goes to food banks and schools. But it also supports the U.S. farms that are buying or creating that food for you to buy. Congressman Pat Ryan, a Democrat out of New York, had this reaction to those cuts. He said, I had to read this five times before I believed it. The president is ripping food away from hungry children. It's absolutely disgusting. That's families going hungry. That's kids, veterans and seniors going hungry.
That's farmers going out of business. I know that you have said there would be a continual assessment of cuts and what's going on. Can you speak to those programs?
Well, first of all, that is absolutely fake news. That Democrat from New York has no idea what he's talking about. We did pull some funds back, but those were, Shannon, those were COVID-era funds that were specific to programs that had not been spent yet. And in fact, the states were not, they were asking for more time because they couldn't figure out how to spend the money so quickly. So that is what we pulled back. Now, keep in mind, just two weeks ago, we released another report
Community Food Bank program funding of $280 million to get locally sourced family farm nutritious food into our schools and into our community food program. So the Democrats are struggling right now for a unifying message. They think this could be it, even though it's completely false. They've made up this narrative. It is not true in reality at all.
And never, not once, will a child go hungry in this country under any sort of USDA program or with President Trump in control and in power. Okay, you mentioned ethanol, so I want to get to this because we talked with farmers who primarily produce corn. They're worried if they're not able to export or the people that they sell to won't continue buying, that they're going to have an abundance. And they say they feel like ethanol fuel, fueled by corn, could be helpful in the domestic market. Here is a question that we got for you from farmer Griff Howard.
Ethanol is a key component to success for our operation. How can the USDA work with the EPA and Congress in establishing a year round sale of E15? And E15 being that blend that contains ethanol. I know at one point you headed up a group that was against these subsidies for ethanol. What is the position of the Trump administration? Have you evolved on that?
Well, Shannon, I think you're talking about a paper that came up in my hearing for this. That was from about 15 years ago that my think tank in Texas wrote about the importance of fossil fuels. So I have never been on the record as being against ethanol personally. That was a long time ago that the Democrats pulled up in my hearing. But it's a really important question. Ethanol is a very, very important part of our energy independent strategy. President Trump has been unequivocal.
in his support for ethanol and in his support for the year-round sale for the E15. In fact, at the end of our last administration, we put that rule out. A court gutted that, so now we're working on it again. But as our incredible Cabinet, led by Secretary Chris Wright, Secretary Burgum on energy, Administrator Lee Zeldin, along with myself, we are hyper-focused on the energy independence issue.
and biofuels is a very, very important part of that. When I was in Iowa about a week and a half ago, we announced a big new grant to help build out more infrastructure for ethanol. We visited almost 10 heartland states to this point in the last two months. I've got another four or five coming in the next two weeks. So we are really focused on our
crop, our row croppers, especially our corn growers, sorghum, soy, wheat, et cetera. But having ethanol as a key part of that strategy is really important to President Trump and the highest priority at our USDA. All right. We're just about out of time. We are out of time, but egg prices are back up again. You've had great success on that. What can people expect quickly?
Well, we are focused on, obviously, the president securing the border and grocery prices. Eggs have been a big driver in that under Joe Biden, increased by 230 percent in the last administration. Wholesale prices are now down almost 60 percent. We'll keep working on that and keep fighting for everyday Americans and especially our American farmers and ranchers here at USDA. All right. Secretary Rollins, thank you very much for your time. Hope you had a good birthday this week. Thank you, Shannon. Oh, thank you.
So much great to be with you. OK, just ahead, a report on how President Trump's tariffs could give a boost to the U.S. shrimping industry. Plus, Democratic Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker joins us to talk about his message to his own state's farmers and rural communities. He's with us live as our special look from the heartland continues. Fox News Sunday is sponsored by Pacific Life, creating financial security for nearly 160 years.
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Welcome back to our special edition of Fox News Sunday from the heartland. So President Trump putting a 90 day pause on his Liberation Day tariffs while leaving many other tariffs in place and ratcheting up the numbers and the levels on China with some key exemptions. Fox Business correspondent Lydia Hu spoke with shrimpers in Mississippi who say the pending tariffs they think will actually boost their industry.
Shannon, after years of raising concerns of unfair trade practices, American shrimpers welcome President Trump's sweeping tariffs, calling them a crucial lifeline for the American shrimping industry. Bosarge Boats has sent one boat on a shrimping trip this year. The family-owned operation says they wish they could go shrimping all year long, but the money earned likely would not cover the cost.
Will our industry be here next year? What are we going to do if we don't have a shrimp industry? How are we going to make a living and feed our families? The Southern Shrimp Alliance, which represents the shrimp industry in the United States, says more than 90% of shrimp consumed in the U.S. is imported.
The American shrimp industry says unfair trade practices, including foreign forced labor and subsidies, put American shrimpers like Bosarge Boats at a disadvantage. The value of shrimp caught by American shrimpers fell by more than 45 percent between 2021 and 2023.
But now, President Trump's tariffs give American shrimpers hope. They target the top six suppliers of foreign shrimp that account for more than 94% of all U.S. shrimp imports. We're not asking for imports to stop.
All we want is for a fair level playing field. We're not scared of a fight. We don't back down from a fight. I promise you, all we want is a fair fight. A bipartisan group of lawmakers have introduced legislation that would prohibit federal funds from financing foreign shrimp operations. But American shrimpers say more needs to be done to protect the American industry. And they say that includes President Trump's tariffs. Shannon.
All right. Our thanks to Lydia Hu for that report. Joining us now, Illinois Democratic Governor J.B. Pritzker, who's just been on a farm tour across his state in recent weeks. Governor, welcome to Fox News Sunday. Good morning, Shannon. Great to see you. OK, so you just heard Lydia's report there on shrimpers who say all they want is a level playing field. We heard and we talked about last week with Cattlemen's Association, with ranchers. A lot of them think the tariffs are actually going to be a good thing for them. They feel hopeful. Do you acknowledge some industries may benefit from this tariff back and forth?
Some might, and that's an argument for targeted tariffs, but that's not what President Trump has done. He's put massive tariffs across the board, and that's going to affect not only the cost for average working families going to the grocery store.
But it's also going to affect the sales of crops that we grow in the state of Illinois and across the United States. An example of that, of course, is we're the number one grower of soybeans. We sell about 60 percent of our soybeans to foreign buyers.
their response to the tariffs is going to hinder those sales. We were just in Mexico talking to the Mexican folks who are buying our crops, our corn, our soybeans, and they're going to be troubled and challenged to not respond to the import tariffs that are being put on. And remember, these are these
These tariffs really are taxes on working families in the United States. So we've got to focus on targeted tariffs. Good trade policy, I might add, is really about protecting U.S. workers, making sure that we're expanding markets overseas.
and focusing on lowering costs for American families. And none of what President Trump has done really does that. Targeted tariffs, not across-the-board tariffs. Okay, so you heard earlier in the show, White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt said that more than 75 countries have come to the table, have reached out, they want to do some negotiating.
That includes our major trading partners like Japan, India, Vietnam. And we'll put this up. This is the trade deficit we have with them. And some estimates run even higher. Forty two billion with India, 63 billion with Japan, one hundred and thirteen billion with Vietnam. Isn't it a good thing that they're now at the table, at least having conversations about that?
Let's start with this. You know, the damage has been done, the damage of introducing tariffs, pulling them back and then reintroducing and then partially pulling them back. That is uncertainty that is causing, frankly, businesses across the board and especially farmers a lot of heartache.
So we ought to be focused on, again, targeting where we need to. But what we want is free trade in the goods where we're, frankly, at an advantage. And once again, our farmers in Illinois, the pork, the beef, corn, soy, we're at a big advantage. And we ought to be able to sell those goods everywhere. But if you get into a trade war, that hurts everyone.
So we've got a number of these companies that have said that they're either going to onshore, bring things back into the U.S. or ramp up operations that they have here, get plants going again from Apple to NVIDIA to Hyundai to Eli Lilly. There are a lot of companies that have responded to these tariffs and to President Trump's policies by saying, OK, we're going to bring some of this business back or we're going to keep it from moving, which we were considering doing, which obviously we hope will have a positive impact on U.S. jobs.
Well, the Inflation Reduction Act did that, and then President Trump stopped all of that.
That's a real challenge. Now he thinks that if with tariffs, if we just close the borders for any goods, that now we're going to have on shoring of operations, maybe. But it's going to take years and we're going to lose a lot of jobs and have a big recession in between. And I think there's a better way to do that. Let's be careful about the way that we're putting tariffs in if we do any. And importantly, you know, U.S. businesses and jobs ought to be the number one thought priority.
of the Trump administration and not this idea that we're punishing people. And by the way, who are we punishing? Canada, Mexico, Europe. These are our allies.
Why are we doing it to them when we've got a free trade agreement between Mexico, Canada and the United States that should be strengthened and we should continue to use that? It's one that President Trump put in place. President Biden abided by during his term. And now President Trump wants to blow all that up and retrade the very thing that he negotiated. Yeah, it's it's clear that you and President Trump see the world and these policies very differently now.
different Democrats who are out there talking have different strategies. Some of them say they'll work with President Trump. You've really become a voice pushing back on him and going straight at him with a number of his policy decisions. You've gone after Republicans this week, too, and in recent weeks saying that they are going to slash Medicaid. But let's talk about what's passed in the CR, what's passed in the budget framework. There's not a line anywhere that actually talks about cutting the program down.
They are talking about cutting waste. I know you don't think there'll be enough there to get to the numbers they want to, but here's Speaker Johnson after they passed the framework in the House on Thursday.
The Democrats, as I noted this morning, have said that we're going to gut Medicaid. It is not true. We're going to protect the benefits that everyone is legally entitled to. The beneficiaries who have a legal right to that, it will be preserved. Those are essential safety net programs that Republicans support. The president has made clear Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid will not take a hit. So you can count on that and you can watch it develop as we go.
OK, if they do cut it, that clip is going to be used by Democrats everywhere. Midterm ads and beyond. That sounds pretty unequivocal. Yeah, it sounds unequivocal. But what they passed is a framework. You heard him use that word framework.
The reality is that underneath that framework, they don't want to mention what they're going after. $880 billion they've got to find. There are only three places you can find that much money all at once. Medicaid, Medicare, or Social Security. We don't know exactly what they're going to attack.
But I think you've already seen that there's not a lot of respect for Social Security by this administration. They've sent Doge in to basically tear it apart. They're closing down offices that our seniors need to access. By the way, also children who are receiving disability payments because of something that may have happened to their themselves, their their families, their parents.
Social Security is under the gun. Medicaid is where I think most of us think they're going to go after because why Republicans have been attacking Medicaid for years and years. So where are you going to find eight hundred and eighty billion dollars? That's the big question. And I think the rest of us can see through it and see that, again, there are only three places that you can find that kind of money. And those are the things that most Americans, frankly, rely upon. I mean, Medicaid,
Medicare and Social Security. It's going to really hurt working families across the United States. OK, well, for the record, Speaker, the speaker and the president say it's not going to be touched and we will all be able to know that and track it in real time. Want to talk about twenty twenty eight because your name as
contender has been going on long before even the last election. We talked about how you've got to take going straight at this administration that stands in contrast to some others. Governor Whitmer has worked with the White House. She was over there this week. She says she's going to do what's good for Michigan. You've got Governor Newsom and he's speaking out on some issues where he thinks the party is off. So we've got new polling from Fox.
Asking people where they feel on Trump administration proposals, and this is across the board, regardless of party, a majority of them say that they support banning trans athletes in women's sports. They support deporting illegal immigrants. They acknowledge there are only two genders and they want to see an increase in domestic drilling and oil. So do you think Democrats are out of step with Americans on those issues or do you think Americans are wrong about those issues?
Look, what Americans want is for their costs, their affordability to they want affordability to go up. They want their costs to go down when they go to the grocery store. That's the opposite of what this administration does. This this administration says they're for working families and then attacks working families with the biggest tax increase in U.S. history with these tariffs.
So, you know, we can go issue by issue and you can ask, you know, a question about whether people support this issue or that. Here's what people really care about. They care about their health care. They care about their affordability. They care about the kitchen table issues that really matter every day so that people who are living paycheck to paycheck can get by.
And this administration promised a lot of things and has done the exact opposite. Costs have gone up, not down. They promised on day one they would reduce inflation. They've done none of that. Well, inflation numbers were down on Friday, so they're going to take a victory lap on that. But we are all watching because we know the economy is primarily why folks want President Trump back in office. We will watch to see what happens. Governor, we appreciate your time. Thanks for coming on.
Thank you. All right. Next up, Oklahoma Senator James Lankford on how agriculture interests in his home state are reacting to the 90 day pause on most major tariffs. And we're going to head out west to California. You'll hear what farmers, ranchers and winemakers think about those tariffs. Plus this.
These silos are filled with crops raised and harvested by a Kansas family hoping to get a fair price for all their hard work and labor. We'll ask them if they think President Trump's policies will help them have a better future. Coming up. Annoyed by ugly paint chips on...
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Welcome back to Fox News Sunday from the heartland. A look at soybean crops in rural Kansas, where we spent time with farmers on the front lines this week. You'll hear more from them coming up. But no matter the crop, farmers across the country could be impacted by the president's tariff strategy. Fox News senior national correspondent William Lajones spent time this week catching up with industries across California to track the potential good and bad effects of efforts to rebalance U.S. trade deficits.
California farmers say a tariff war would create winners... It's certainly going to help. ...and losers. China started buying almonds from Australia.
where there's no tariff. America's largest agricultural producer, California, exports more nuts than anyone. Retaliatory tariffs from China could decimate their business. You'll see orchards being ripped out, farms being lost. There'll be farms for sale up and down the valley. Well, come on. But cattle rancher Mike Roby says the tariff war could help his industry. I think we're all going to come out looking better.
The U.S. imports 3 billion pounds of beef from lower-cost producers in Mexico and Canada, which pay no tariff, and Australia, which effectively bans U.S. imports. Australia bans, and they're wonderful people, but they ban American beef. Whoa!
Roby hopes Trump can force Asian countries to lift their tariffs on U.S. beef. Napa Valley, a major exporter, fears a tariff war. If you do a 20 percent tariff, it's not going to be 20 percent. It's going to be 30 to 40 percent more on the shelf. Heights sellers Philana Bouvier learned this week the EU will not impose counter tariffs. Canada, however, already did. Canada
for example, is a major export market for the U.S. wine, and they're not purchasing due to the tariffs. Donald Trump's tariffs do not represent all Americans. Governor Gavin Newsom wants foreign leaders to exempt California products from retaliation. California is a stable trading partner. Any slowdown is going to have a ripple effect through the economy, so many are relieved by this pause in tariffs.
But two thirds of the cargo traffic here at the port of L.A., Long Beach, is related to China. So until that is resolved, the future for many remains uncertain. Shannon. All right. William Lajanes, thank you very much. And joining us now to continue this conversation, Republican Senator from Oklahoma, James Lankford. Welcome back, Senator.
Thank you. Good to be back again. Okay, so let's talk about the fallout from the tariffs. You heard some of the folks that are worried in Williams reporting there about what's going to happen to their businesses. Reuters summarizes the last few days this way. In a matter of days, the president's imposed heavy tariffs on the world, made an abrupt U-turn on his decision, and intensified a trade war with China. Stocks globally have shed trillions of dollars, and world markets have gone into a tailspin. The U.S. dollar has also taken a hit. So we're in a 90-day pause now. What needs to happen in that pause?
So really what has happened is the stock market did have a shuffle for about 48 hours and then had a really great week at the end of this. So last week was a very good week for the stock market. There's a 90-day pause because so many countries have come at the administration and said, remember all those things?
that we've blocked out for a long time. Just kidding. We want to be able to actually fix some of those things now. So whether it is Australian beef, whether it's Argentina, whether it's Japan, whether it's Vietnam, we've had trade issues where they've blocked out our products for a very long time. Now they're suddenly coming to the United States with paper to say, here are the things that we want to be able to solve. That is very good for America long term. We've got three months for the administration to be able to solidify a lot of these agreements.
That will be helpful for the country for a very, very long time. If there's any one thing I hear from my farmers and ranchers other than rain at the right time, it is we want to open up markets globally. We want to be able to sell our products around the world. Joe Biden refused to go do new trade agreements. President Trump is doing that immediately.
When asked about something else, I'm sure you hear from your farmers because we heard this conversation when we were in Kansas as well. It was about the amount of land that China has been buying up across the U.S. We've got a map just showing how far spread widespread that is. I know you've got a bill that does have some Democrat support on this. What would that bill do and what are the odds it goes anywhere?
Right now, if a Chinese firm wants to be able to buy an American technology company, they have to go through a process to be able to actually be reviewed to do that. Obviously, the vast majority of them are going to be denied on that for that kind of request. But that's not true on agricultural lands.
If they want to buy ag land, they could buy ag land anywhere they want to be able to buy it. So that's something that we think we should have a what's called a CFIUS review for those entities, North Korea, China, Russia, Iran. If they're interested in buying land in the United States, it's probably not because of anything helpful to us as the United States. So we want to have a basic review on it to not have a total prohibition to say it could never, ever happen.
at any time there may be some situation at some point can't imagine what that would be but there might be but it would at least put the hoops in place that they've got to actually be checked on that before they go through the process we have seen it all over the country and we know it is a real threat to the price to an our state dealing with water and electricity and all the things chinese immigrant labor that comes in often illegal immigrant labor that comes in to be able to work these facilities so we want to be able to make sure that doesn't happen in the future
By the way, you were part of trying to put together an immigration bill last year that did not move. Maybe it's been two years ago now. What are the odds now that Republicans have House, Senate and White House that anything moves on that front? Something substantive.
Yeah, the first things first, the president's used existing law to be able to actually close the border. You go back to when I was negotiating that bill, we had 12,000 people a day illegally crossing the border. Now we have less than 200 people a day even trying to cross the border. Dramatic change from the implementation of the law. That's one of the things I was pushing on before just to get President Biden to be able to implement the law. There are still loopholes in the law that long term haven't.
have to be resolved when i was negotiating the bill a year ago it wasn't about who the next president was issues about the president five years ten years fifteen years from now will those same loopholes be there that another president would exploit so we still do have to resolve those i don't anticipate it's this year or next year quite frankly is very full we gotta get a farm bill done we gotta get tax policy done we have twelve appropriation bills we've got national defense authorization
There's a lot this year, but I do anticipate there'll be a time when the president's going to say, let's close all those loopholes so any future president doesn't exploit it again. OK, so among the to do list, you now the House has passed the Senate's framework on this reconciliation budget bill. The Nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget had this reaction this week. They said the budget sets the stage for the largest deficit increase in history.
An unprecedented bill that requires just $4 billion in savings to offset up to $5.8 trillion in deficits. They called it an absolute disgrace. GOP is supposed to be the party of fiscal discipline. Why did you vote yes on this?
So that is the wonderful Washington, D.C. math that's coming through on this. Washington, D.C. says they want all taxes to increase on every single American because January the 1st of next year, every single farmer and rancher, every single small business, every single individual of all tax brackets, their rates will go up dramatically next year. And Washington, D.C. is saying, yes, increase taxes. Our Democrat colleagues are saying, yes, increase taxes.
As simple as I can make this bill, it is about keeping tax rates the same. But in Washington, D.C., if you keep tax rates the same and don't increase them, they call that increasing deficits. What we want to do is decrease our spending, get rid of all the waste that's out there in spending.
and we want to be able to maintain a good economic policy that we have currently right now. President Trump's 2017 tax bill led to an incredible increase in economic activity in the country and actually dramatically increased the amount of revenue coming in. As people make more money, they pay more taxes. That's a better way to do it than just jacking up tax rates, which will definitely increase inflation. I had this same conversation with your friend, Senator Chris Coons, last week. And by the way,
I had him on my podcast recently, and he talked about how much he respects you as a friend. You guys share faith. You have these conversations about your Christian faith. Well, you may have different priorities in the way that you act as a lawmaker and the things that you push for. Even though you both share that underlying faith, you've got a brand-new book, and you talk about faith and how important it is to a revival in America. Your new book is called Turnaround, America's Revival. This line from your book says...
We cannot grade ourselves with grace and others with judgment. Each person must live up to the America we all want to see. So how do you get things done here in Washington with that in mind, knowing you may see the end result very differently?
We may, actually. The book Turnaround is really focused on how do we actually as individuals engage in a national turnaround. Too often, even conservatives will say, I'm going to vote for the right person. They're going to fix the country. Washington doesn't change the country. The country changes Washington. That's really how it happens. And so I ask the simple question, what can you do? How can we get engaged?
to be able to actually have a real national turnaround, personally, individually. And sometimes that's having grown-up conversations with people you disagree with to be able to resolve differences for the benefit of the country. But really, it's about how do we live out our faith and those faith principles in every single aspect of our life. So when I wrote Turnaround, it is optimistic, but it is a push to say, how can we do better as a country and as individuals to be able to have this long-term turnaround as a nation that we need?
Yeah, and I know that your faith very much translates into service for you and your friend, Chris Coons. So we hope you will continue those tough conversations with each other as well. Senator, thank you. You bet. Glad to be able to do it. And Chris Coons even makes a guest appearance in the book. So glad to be able to do it. Keep praying for the nation. Enjoy Palm Sunday. You too.
Okay. An immigration judge rules Columbia student activist Mahmoud Khalil can be deported as U.S. officials accuse him of glorifying and supporting terrorists. His attorneys, though, say it is a matter of free speech. Our Sunday panel debates that and the Supreme Court ruling on the fate of an immigrant in the U.S. illegally, but deported to an El Salvadoran prison in what the government admits was an error. And
And later, we'll get a VIP tour of a Heartland farm working to prepare for what comes next with the president's aggressive tariff strategy. Stick around.
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This is a blatant violation of the First Amendment and a dangerous precedent for anyone who believes in free speech and political expression.
That is reaction from attorney Sabreen Mohammed following an immigration judge's ruling Friday that Columbia grad student Mahmoud Khalil can be deported. He's accused of supporting Hamas, taking part in anti-Israel protests, and willfully leaving out information about his employment, with the U.N. organization accused of having ties to terror activity on his application to become a legal permanent resident, which he is.
Time now to discuss with our Sunday group, Fox News senior political analyst Juan Williams. Doug High, former RNC communications director and USA Today Washington bureau chief, Susan Page. Great to see all of you. Okay, so clearly his legal team is not happy. There is still a federal case separate from this that's playing out in New Jersey in federal court. But here's the reaction from DHS Secretary Kristi Noem in part.
Mahmoud Khalil, she says, hates the U.S. and what we stand for, so his removal should come as welcome news. When you advocate for violence, glorify and support terrorists that relish the killing of Americans and harass Jews, you should not be in this country. Sushantji adds, good riddance.
Yeah, a victory in the immigration court. As you say, not over yet. New Jersey may be a friendlier venue. But it's important because this is a first test case for a tactic that the administration wants to use on maybe thousands of students who are here, international students are here, many of whom may have participated, say, in a pro-Palestinian protest.
and to the administration's reasoning that makes them eligible for deportation. And with a very low bar, the immigration court agreed. The bar in this case was that Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, said he was a threat and that was good enough. Yeah. So there are so many other levels of appeal for that particular track as well. Meanwhile, there was a loss for the administration this week.
In that they had a really rough hearing on Friday with a federal judge who was not happy about Kilmer Obrego Garcia, a man living in Maryland, had a deportation block on him for at least being deported to El Salvador, but he's in a prison there. And she demanded the judge that the DOJ come up with some answers about what was happening with him and said, you've got to tell us every day at 5 p.m. his status. They said yesterday he is alive and well in this prison. We at least know that. But here is his attorney on this whole legal matter.
So no update on them getting him out, but we know where he is.
Yeah, and look, I go back to one thing that we heard so often during the campaign, and we still hear on a lot of commercials. Only Donald Trump can fix this. Now, the administration has admitted it's a failure. Fix this. The El Salvadorian president is coming to Washington soon. In politics, if you've made a mistake...
and you've acknowledged it, you want to fix it as fast as possible. They should have fixed this already. Get this done before the El Salvadorian president comes on Friday. Yeah. And when he's going to be here this week, Human Rights First is not happy about this. They say Bukele, the president there, cooperation with President Trump's agenda, including disappearing people overseas without due process and into prisons notorious for abuse, is unprecedented, rights-violating, and extreme. But while we're talking about somebody who was in this country illegally...
Right. But the question is one of due process. I say this to you as a lawyer, as a Supreme Court correspondent. I think the reason that you saw the Supreme Court rule unanimously this week that there has to be due process, habeas corpus production in this case, because there was never any evidence that he was a criminal. Some of it came down to tattoos.
There is an immigration judge, though, who did find some connection in that judge's assessment to MS-13. But there's no obvious, obviously no trial, no obvious presentation of evidence that we can all see and say, here's a judgment by a jury or by a judge that would say a basis for deporting this person.
It's alarming to me. I mean, we were just talking about this pro-Palestinian protester. But you think about that young woman who was grabbed off the streets, who had written some pro-Palestinian columns for her school paper at Tufts University. And it's just chilling that people with masks on, no uniform, are grabbing people off the streets. And in this case, that this man whose wife is an American, who has American children, is...
Yeah.
And colleges and universities know they have targets on their back right now. I was in Chapel Hill this week. I'm a member of the Board of Visitors there. UNC is one of the schools that's doing a good job, especially in accounting of where all their money goes. But if I'm a college or university, certainly a research university, I'm trying to figure out how do I do this correctly because these things can happen on any college campus. Yeah. Oh, OK. So a mixed bag in the legal fights this week for the administration. But some good news for them Friday when it comes to
inflation numbers. Here are some headlines that they got on Friday. From the Wall Street Journal, March CPI report shows unexpectedly large slowdown in inflation. CNBC, inflation rate increases to 2.4% in March, lower than expected. Core at four-year low. Axios consumer prices fall in March with much cooler inflation.
Susan, we're going to hear the White House talking about that a lot. Well, and of course, this was a big reason he was elected, concern about inflation. But don't blink because there is no economist who is not employed by Donald Trump who thinks a month from now we're going to continue to have good news on inflation. The consensus of economists is that the tariff regime that is already in place is going to fuel inflation. And we have, of course, bad news on consumer confidence, on the strength of the dollar and on bond markets, which is a particular concern, I think, to to
to financiers. Yeah. And you have an interesting piece on this where you ask the question, is this president risking overreach in the second term on all these fronts? We will see. OK, panel, thank you very much. Stick around. We'll see you next Sunday. But first, this. It is spring planting time here in Kansas. Coming up, we're going to give you a behind the scenes VIP tour with a family who's been farming this land for six generations. What happens when one of the most...
Since the founding of our nation, family farms have played a vital role in America's story. This morning, we're going to show you how one Kansas farm run by the same family for generations is meeting the challenges of this critical moment in the industry. It's today's Sunday special. Every spring for more than 150 years, the McCauley family, like scores of other farmers across the American heartland, have prepared their land for growing season.
Brad is taking the reins of the family's thriving business from his father, Ken, who still lives on the historic property full of the mementos of a life spent contributing to a staple our nation depends on. What are the pluses? What are the minuses of doing this for generations? The pluses are huge in the fact that you've got a lot of ties to the history of the farm. You have the opportunity to tell your kids and your grandkids stories.
the story. Great-grandpa Scherer used to plow this field out here and work it with his hands. It is a lot of investment in a lot of our family's history. I grew up in this house, and looking at my generation to the next generation, it's hard telling what the future will bring for them.
That uncertainty greater now as the success of farms may rest not only on weather or soil quality, but on decisions made a thousand miles away in Washington. There can be permanent tariffs and there can also be negotiations. The uncertain future in this short term is uncertain.
It's very concerning. We're going to try to do what we can to keep this thing profitable because the margins are extremely tight. Because you all mainly produce corn. And so I know you sell to domestic customers, but the tariffs will ripple affect you because if others aren't exporting their crops, that impacts your ability to sell your corn. Yes, it does. Do you trust the president's long term strategy?
I trust him. I think he's doing the right thing. So I think we need a plan from USDA, from Secretary Rollins and the president, not just a check for this year to sustain us, but also a plan. What domestically do we have that can use up
another billion bushels of corn. Ethanol is right there, ready to go, flip the switch, get the EPA on board with USDA and make this happen. That's my answer to how we're going to keep this from really hurting us down the road. Farmers are juggling numerous issues as the price of vital materials and equipment surges. People
People have no idea, if they're not in farming, the overhead costs with what you do. This one piece of equipment behind you, tell us how much that is. That's our combine. It's about $500,000 to $600,000. And the demand for corn is poised to shrink, even as the supply goes up. We've got good demand for the crop that's in the bin. The crop that's being grown is another issue. The crop that we're looking for, 26, that...
is really uncertain. But even in the face of an uncertain future, the McCauley's say difficult times lead to greener pastures on the other side. What is it like to have all of those decades on this land?
knowing there are tough times and you kind of have to hold on through that. I would imagine you've had enough time at this to see the peaks and valleys of farming. Oh, I sure have. I was pretty young when Nixon put the price controls on, went through the Carter embargo for Russia, and that created the 80s, which we lived through. And Brad was young when that happened. But it was really tough. And you had a lot of people didn't survive that.
Today, we want to make sure that we survive what can happen, positive or negative, because a lot of times you end up with positives when you struggle through those things. We want to thank the McCauley family for sharing their farm and their story with us, and all our American farmers and ranchers feeding the country and the world through their generations of hard work.
That is it for us today. Thank you for joining us. I'm Shannon Bream. We'll leave you with a look at Palm Sunday. And for those who are celebrating, have a wonderful Holy Week. We'll see you next Fox News Sunday.
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