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I'm Shannon Bream. The second Trump administration prepares to mark its first 100 days as a critical week in foreign policy promises to shape the next 100 and beyond. I think Russia...
And Ukraine, I think they're coming along. President Trump ramps up pressure on Kyiv and Moscow as the clock ticks down on a peace deal to end the years-long conflict. At the same time, the president tries to cut deals on trade. I think the terror plan is doing very well. We're resetting the table.
We're going to make our country very rich. And U.S. officials complete a new round of negotiations with their Iranian counterparts to keep the regime's nuclear program from becoming weaponized. We'll get reaction from both sides of the aisle with Republican Senator John Kennedy and Congressman Adam Smith, the top Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee. Plus...
World leaders gather at the Vatican for Pope Francis's funeral. We'll talk about what happened on the sidelines at the president's high stakes sit down with Ukrainian President Zelensky. All right now on Fox News Sunday.
Hello from Fox News in Washington. We begin with a look at some of your headlines. Police in Vancouver, Canada have arrested a 30-year-old suspect. They say plowed a car he was driving into a crowd of people. They were celebrating at a Filipino culture festival last night, killing at least nine people, injuring many more. Now, police say at this time they are confident it was not an act of terrorism.
Canadians are set to go to the polls tomorrow to pick their new ruling party after 10 years under Liberal Party Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Conservatives had enjoyed a comfortable lead in the polls, but there's been a shift that some political analysts say was triggered by President Trump's provocative rhetoric and tariffs against that country.
Fires from a massive explosion at a southern Iranian port Saturday burned through the night despite efforts to try to get that under control. Authorities say there are at least 25 people dead, 800 are wounded. That explosion is thought to be linked to a shipment of a chemical ingredient used to make missile propellant.
In a moment, we will talk about all the day's top stories with GOP Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana and Democratic Congressman Adam Smith from Washington state. But first, we turn to Madeline Rivera on the Trump administration's foreign policy moves this weekend, starting with that high profile one on one in Rome between President
President Trump, President Zelensky, they had that meeting. They did, Shannon. Good morning to you. And those photos were remarkable, given that their last meeting ended with a spat in the Oval Office. And as they work to reach a peace deal, the president is now questioning Russia's commitment to stop the war. Before Pope Francis was buried in Rome, President Trump and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky huddled at St. Peter's Basilica, hoping to put the war in Ukraine to an end. Russia...
On Friday, the president sounded hopeful, saying most major points of a deal have been agreed to after U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow. But in a true social post, the president is voicing fresh concerns that Putin might not want to stop the fighting, pointing to Russia's attacks on civilian areas.
All of this comes as the president appears ready to hand a major concession to the Kremlin, saying in a Time magazine interview that Crimea will stay with Russia. The president is blaming former President Obama for Russia's annexation of the territory in 2014. Zelensky maintains that land is Ukraine's.
Temporarily occupied territories are just temporarily occupied, but they all belong to Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. As ceasefire talks in Ukraine continue, U.S. and Iranian officials are back at the negotiating table trying to hammer out a new nuclear agreement. A senior administration official says the third round of talks in Oman over the weekend were positive, the administration looking to reach a deal not only with Iran and Ukraine, but also on trade.
You said you spoke with President Xi. Have you spoken to him since the tariffs? I don't want to comment on that, but I've spoken to him many times. China, though, is pushing back. China and the U.S. are not having any consultation or negotiation on tariffs. The U.S. should not confuse the public.
Overnight, Russia launched a massive drone assault across Ukraine. The president is floating the possibility of tougher sanctions on Russia if it does not want to stop the war. Shannon? Maddie, thank you very much. Good to see you. All right. Joining us now, Louisiana Republican Senator John Kennedy. Senator, welcome back to Fox News Sunday.
All right, let me start there. You hear that these attacks continue overnight, although President Trump has said to President Putin, you got to stop it, knock it off. There are brand new polling numbers that we've got out today that the American people do not think President Trump is handling this well. His job approval on handling Russia and Ukraine is at 36 and 39 percent, respectively. Is it foolish to think that Putin does want peace? And will he be emboldened if part of this deal includes giving him territory?
I think Shannon America is paying the price right now for President Biden's appeasement. The Biden people believed in diplomacy, first, last and always. We're in a knife fight with Russia and China and Iran. And the Biden people wanted to quote Socrates to them. I see what you see. Here's what I see.
Putin has reneged on every promise that he has made to President Trump. His latest proposal is, well, nothing. He wants to keep all the territory that he's taken. He wants to prohibit Ukraine from joining NATO, and he wants America and Europe to stop helping Ukraine. I think that Putin thinks that America...
has taken the bullet train to Chumptown. I think he thinks we're afraid of him. He has jacked around President Trump at every turn. He has disrespected our president. I don't think it's going to get any better until we make it clear to Mr. Putin that we are willing to turn him and his country into fish food. And I'm not talking about nuclear weapons.
our nuclear war, I would start with oil, which I will be glad to talk about if you want. Well, and there has been some discussion, obviously, there are sanctions on Russia. And it begs the question whether that's getting their attention, whether more sanctions will make more of a difference. I know that there are all kinds of things happening with where its oil ends up. And some of that's in violation of the sanctions. So do we need better enforcement against other countries that are violating that?
Where do we go from here on getting Russia's attention? Well, America, under President Biden, and Europe agreed that Russia can continue to sell its oil as long as they don't get more than $60 a barrel. Russia gets one-third of its revenues from oil. We need to stop all of the sales of oil. We need to get Russia down and choke them.
They're not going to come to the table otherwise. I want a settlement in Ukraine. We also have to ask Europe to do better. Europe's got to start paying its own bills. If it wasn't for the American taxpayer, Putin would be in Paris right now. Europe's got to do more. But mainly, we've got to make Putin understand that there is a price to be paid
for his jacking our president. Yeah, he doesn't seem to get that at this point. I want to ask you about Iran as well, because we just wrapped another round of talks with them. President Trump was asked by Time magazine, this lengthy interview he had with them about whether he worries about the U.S. quote being dragged into a military situation with Iran because Israel takes action. But here's what he said. I may go in very willingly if we can't get a deal. If we don't make a deal, I'll be leading the pack.
What do you think happens if we get militarily involved with a strike on Iran? Well, we're involved militarily with Iran. Iran hates America as much as it hates Israel. I would love to see a settlement with Iran, but Iran can't have access, directly or indirectly, to nuclear weapons. If Iran gets a weapon or is days away from getting a weapon, there will be a war.
Iran won't start it, and America won't start it. Israel will. And Israel knows that if Iran gets a bomb, Israel is a smoked turkey. The first thing Iran will do will be to bomb Israel. And Israel's not going to tolerate that, and I don't blame them.
All right, I want to make sure I get to a couple of other things with you. Lili, you're an attorney, as am I. You have said that you will call out President Trump loudly if you think he is not following federal courts and the orders that they have.
The Supreme Court has made some statements about what the administration should be doing with respect to getting Kilmer Obrego Garcia back from El Salvador. They've admitted that was a mistake. You've talked about them making a mistake with that, too. But federal judge Paula Zinnis does not think this administration is complying with that order. Here's a little bit of her order from April 22nd coming down on the Trump administration, saying...
There's been a continued mischaracterization of the Supreme Court's order. She's used the word specious. She said there's been willful and intentional noncompliance. Now, the president's legal team sees that order to facilitate and effectuate his return differently, clearly than Paula Zinnick's. The judge sees that. What do you think the Supreme Court meant? And do you think the administration's in compliance? I don't think President Trump has defied any federal orders.
I don't know what these judges expect the federal government to do. Bucalay has said he's not returning Mr. Garcia. Mr. Garcia is not coming back to the United States ever. I don't think the federal courts can direct the executive branch to go in and try to take Mr. Garcia by force.
I also think that Mr. Bukele and El Salvador is taking advice from China. He's much closer to China than he is to the United States. People don't realize that. And I think China is loving all this turmoil. I don't think that the... Let me say it again. I don't think the president has defied any orders of a judge, nor should he.
I believe in the rule of law. If you don't like a judge's opinion, you can criticize it. You can appeal it. That's why God made courts of appeal. If you're an elected official, you can quit if somebody orders you to defy it. But you can't defy it. That will undermine the legitimacy of our entire system. But I don't think that President Trump has done that. I just don't know what these federal judges...
expect the executive branch to do. Well, so much of this legal action has to do with immigration, deportation, the border. I want to read something from our next guest, Congressman Adam Smith, speaking to that issue. He says this, there are a lot of people in this country undocumented who should be allowed to stay. They have been a vital part of our economy. They are vital parts of our community. He says, deporting them is often separating families. It's sending people back to countries they aren't even familiar with.
What's your response to him? Well, I have great respect for the congressman. What he has said would be interesting if it were true. Illegal immigration is illegal. Duh. If you don't like the law, change it. But you have to follow the law. The American people support legal immigration, but they don't support illegal immigration.
They see the border like they see their front door. Most Americans lock their front door at night. They don't lock their front door because they hate everybody on the outside. They lock their front door because they love the people on the inside and they want to know who's coming in and out of their home.
The congressman and his party allowed 8 to 12 million people to come into our country illegally. And we don't have the slightest idea who they are. That's like adding four Nebraskas.
If they they would be they believe in open borders. I mean, that's clear to me. Nobody is well is is so incompetent as to allow that many people to come into our country. It has to be intentional. And the Democrats would be a lot more intellectually honest if they would just admit that they believe in open borders. Well, I will ask him about that. Senator Kennedy, thank you for your time. Appreciate it.
Thank you. All right. Joining me now, Congressman Adam Smith of Washington state. He's the top Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee. Congressman, welcome back. Let's start there. He says your party believes in open borders. Your response.
We don't. I do agree completely that President Biden did not do enough to secure the border. There's no question about that. The policies allowed too many asylum seekers in. We were overwhelmed by an immigration problem. There's no question about it, by a migration problem. President Biden did belatedly change that near the end of his term to better enforce asylum laws, and President Trump has continued that. But on the point about the undocumented population, I want to change the law.
I want to have a pathway to citizenship for the undocumented population because we have been dependent upon many undocumented immigrants who have come here, worked, raised families, paid taxes, been part of our community. But no question about it, the Democratic Party did not do enough to secure the border. I won't disagree with that.
But I don't think the senator should disagree that there are a lot of undocumented immigrants in this country who are vital parts of our community. And we need to deal with that problem as well. We talk about changing the law and there's a lot of discussion about asylum policy, refugee status, all kinds of things that could be done at the border, whether it's about securing the border, whether it's changing immigration policy, better funding the courts and the judges that have an enormous backlog. But the fact
is that it slowed to almost a trickle of what it was. I mean, it's astounding and shocking how the numbers have come down at the border. Was President Trump right when he said his joint address? You don't need more laws. You just needed a different president.
Well, on border enforcement, I think he is probably right. I think having more aggressive stance. Now, I don't think we should be disappearing people, picking them up off the streets with no due process and locking them up. I think the American people are rightly concerned about that. I disagree with the senator. I think the president is in open defiance of a number of different court rulings, including on this issue. But no question, as I said right up front, we as the Democratic Party did not do enough to secure the border.
So, yes, that is an issue we need to deal with. But I think we also need to deal responsibly, compassionately and intelligently with those undocumented immigrants. We've been dependent upon that labor for decades. I think it is brutally unfair to rip those people out of their communities if they're here paying taxes, obeying the law. So that's the law that I want to see changed.
Well, do you agree that the asylum program, the refugee status, that those things, do you worry that they're being abused by people who come here and know that that's an automatic entree to a lot of protections and other things? Do you worry that that hurts the people who actually need them? Right.
Yeah, I've said that twice already. So, yes, without without question, the way the asylum laws were handled under the Biden administration were too expansive and it created a problem in this country. There's no doubt about that. So let's talk about this issue is one of the things that seemed to hurt Democrats last fall because people.
had really strong opinions about immigration. They felt that Republicans and President Trump, they polled better on that issue. There are other issues that the Democrats are dealing with now in polling. Here's what Gallup had to say just days ago. Democrats' leadership, their latest 25 percent confidence rating is at an all-time low for the group, well below the previous 34 percent low recorded in 2023 and the average of 45 percent since 2001.
You have said the Democratic Party is broken. Are you surprised at all by these new numbers?
No, not at all. Look, we need to offer a reasonable alternative to President Trump. I am deeply troubled by what President Trump is doing. And by the way, I really want to talk about Ukraine because I completely disagree with Senator Kennedy on that. What Donald Trump did on Ukraine is he came into office and he appeased Putin from day one. We had a strong position against Russia. We were supporting Ukraine. But by attacking Zelensky and appeasing Putin, he gave Putin a huge wide open door to walk through Ukraine.
And now President Trump is surprised that Vladimir Putin is continuing the war. Taking the pressure off of Putin was an enormous mistake by Donald Trump. And we need to talk about that and figure out how to fix it. But yes, I've been very open about the fact I completely disagree with President Trump's agenda.
I think he's acting like an authoritarian. I think his tariff policy is scattershot and is creating massive economic problems that are only going to get worse in the months ahead. He hasn't been honest with the American people. I could go on. But at the end of the day, if all we Democrats do is stand up and say what we don't like about Donald Trump, that is insufficient. The American people knew pretty much everything I just said, and they still picked him.
So we as Democrats need to come up with a reasonable alternative and a better agenda to address the issues that the American people have with us and the policies that we've chosen. I've said that, and I think we Democrats need to be open about that and offer those better ideas.
So in the meantime, there is this push and pull between the establishment within the Democrat Party, the old school, the new guard, the more progressive and people trying to figure out where the messaging is going to settle. Part of this is showing up in the back and forth between the DNC chair, Ken Martin, and Vice Chair David Hogg, who has apparently raised millions of dollars that at least in part are going to be used to primary incumbent Democrats. Here's the chairman on that issue.
I am a huge fan of David Hoggs, and I'm glad he's a part of our officer corps. But it's important for us to maintain the trust that we have built with Democratic voters and to keep our thumb off the scale as party officers. So David Hoggs says they're trying to change the rules because he's not currently breaking them. How does this settle out?
Look, we've got two separate issues at play here. One that I agree with. The Democratic Party needs to be more efficient, more effective about the way we run campaigns and the way we pick candidates. I've been very open and very public. Joe Biden should not have run for a second term. And I was one of the first ones to come out and say he should get out after that debate. And it is astonishing to me that so many in the Democratic Party after that debate still argued that Joe Biden was our best shot.
I mean, after watching that debate, to me, that's just insane. And that's as a practical politician, as someone who's been working on campaigns since I was 15 years old, who was very focused on here's how you win. That's not how you win. So the basic point that the Democrats need to get smarter and tougher and do a better job of going out there and winning, I agree with. But I don't think that's what Mr. Hogue is really talking about.
He's trying to push our party further to the left. He wants to target candidates who thinks are insufficiently loyal to a more left leaning agenda. And I think that's exactly wrong. There are issues that we need to deal with. We've talked about immigration. We did not do a good job, enough job of securing the border, even on economics. I think President Trump's economic policy is a disaster on tariffs, on
on cutting taxes for the wealthy, cutting programs, gutting our federal government program after program after program. But if our response is just to attack rich people and promise as much free stuff as possible for as many people without an emphasis on hard work and personal responsibility, then our economic message isn't going to be any better. We also need to get off of our obsession with identity politics.
We need to battle bigotry and racism and discrimination, but we don't have to do it in the extreme left wing way that we've seen. So we need to address those issues. And I think when Mr. Hogan is part of he's part of an effort to jam our party further to the left when what we need is more action.
progressive policies. I consider myself to be very progressive, but we also have to be using common sense, practical thinking, and we have to have some measure of personal responsibility and hard work. That's why we've begun to lose the immigrant community. Immigrants come to this country because they want to work hard and be rewarded. They don't come to this country because they want the government to give them all free stuff on every single issue. It's a balance.
We need to help people, but we also need to emphasize personal responsibility. Work hard, play by the rules, get ahead. That should be the Democratic message. Donald Trump is gutting our economy with his tariff policy, gutting our economy by shutting down all of these programs that are crucial. But we've got to balance that. That was a very long answer, but it was a very complicated question. But before you go, I do want a quick comment from you on Ukraine and Russia, because I know you think – you expressed earlier how you feel –
How much of this public stuff do you think, though, with President Trump has been about pushing and trying to get negotiations moving? I mean, he clearly is frustrated now that he's given Putin many opportunities, and now he's calling them out saying, listen, you know, I tried to publicly give you a lane, and you haven't taken it. It sounds like, you know, this administration is very close to walking away and saying, we're not going to push these talks anymore. We've given you both an opportunity. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see if he does. But look, beyond any question, President Trump screwed up.
He let Putin play him for a fool. He came into office acting like Putin was going to end this war. He put all the pressure on Ukraine. He stopped military assistance to Ukraine. Vladimir Putin right now thinks if he just holds out long enough,
But he briefly cut it off. He cut off intelligence. He cut off assistance. And then after pressure mounted a week later, he turned it back on. But he sent a very clear message to Vladimir Putin. You hold out long enough. I'm going to walk away from Ukraine and it's all yours.
Now, is President Trump going to change that message at this point? Is he actually going to step up and put pressure on Putin and make it clear that Putin is to blame for this war and to put the economic sanctions in place and say, look, we're going to keep helping Ukraine until you stop this war? Yeah. And how much does that was if he changes Ukraine?
Yeah. How much of that was public posturing? I don't know. But we are still at this in the past. And, you know, if it was public posturing, Putin got the message. And the message was it's we're going to we're going to let you go on bombing. The message, the message now is off and let's get to the table. So we got to leave it there. But if the messy if I'm sorry, if the message is a tweet, stop.
Does Donald Trump really think that Putin's going to respond to a social media? And the issue of whether there will be not yet ranked up as well. He needs to. We'll see. And part of this we know is in congressional hands as well. Congressman, always appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. All right. The Trump administration set to mark 100 days in office. The panel breaks down the biggest takeaways next. What happens when one of them. This episode is brought to you by Peloton.
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This week will mark the end of the first 100 days of President Trump's second term. Now, key parts of his agenda have already been implemented with many more fights ahead. Here's a quick look at some of the most notable moments so far. The future is ours.
And our golden age has just begun. President Trump signing a flurry of executive orders, from a pause on the TikTok ban to pardons for most of those convicted or awaiting trials in connection with January 6th. Tapping Elon Musk's to head the Doge team, cutting down federal agencies and reducing the size of government. The sheer amount of waste and fraud in the government, it is astonishing. It's mind-blowing. Sparking outrage from the left. We have got to tell Elon Musk nobody.
Nobody elected your ass. Protests across the country and acts of vandalism. Democrats took a stand against the president by mostly staying seated at his joint address to Congress. Delivering on a major campaign promise, the White House buckled down on securing the border. It turned out that all we really needed was a new president. Yeah.
Only a little more than 7,000 border crossings in March, in stark contrast to more than 137,000 last March. On foreign policy, President Trump pushing to bring the Russia-Ukraine conflict to a close. Clashing with Vladimir Zelensky in the Oval Office. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War III. The commander-in-chief even talking expansion of the U.S.,
Canada only works as a state. We need Greenland for national security. A scandal over a signal group chat laying out details about an upcoming airstrike inadvertently shared with a reporter putting Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on defense. Nobody...
was texting war plans. And that's all I have to say about that. On April 2nd, President Trump touted Liberation Day, his plan to put tariffs on goods from most countries. April 2nd, 2025 will forever be remembered as the day American industry was reborn. The fallout plunging the stock market to its lowest since 2020. Days later, the president paused a bulk of the tariffs except for those on China.
But the uncertainty has caused continued market volatility. All of this as the administration is facing historic numbers of legal challenges. We've had over 170 lawsuits filed against us. That should be the constitutional crisis. Including an ongoing battle over the deportation of this man to El Salvador. Abrego Garcia was a foreign terrorist. He is an MS-13 gang member.
All right. That's where we stand. President Trump is going to have his first 100 days and celebrate them with a series of speeches and rallies this week. So let's see how our panel thinks he's doing. Time for our Sunday group. Julia Manchester, The Hill, national political reporter. Syndicated columnist Cal Thomas. Juan Williams, Fox News senior political analyst and Wall Street Journal White House reporter. Annie Lenski, welcome to all of you.
All right. Speaking of Wall Street Journal, I want to start with this piece from Kimberly Strassel on the first 100 days. She says this past month has seen the Trump team on the back foot and it's mostly self-inflicted, giving Democrats in the media exactly what they want. The chance to portray this administration again as risky, chaotic and lawless. Cal.
I'm reminded of the old Simon and Garfunkel song from the 60s, slow down, you move too fast. Trump is moving far too fast for people to keep up. It's like swallowing too much food and getting it caught in your throat. In this speech he has scheduled in Michigan this week on the 100th day of his presidency, he needs to slow down and explain exactly what's happening, especially on tariffs.
and make it less about himself and more about the American people, especially those who voted for him. There is a way to do this, and I think he needs to do it or he's going to continue to decline in the polls. Well, Kimberly also goes on in the piece to say that the first 100 days, Annie, can be a time for assessment about what's working, what's not. Do you see any policy or personnel changes coming?
Well, you know, I think that you're right to point out that this is a time for assessment. And in many ways, this first hundred days has been about really rattling, rattling the government, rattling institutions. And it's it's going to be the next.
100 days where we're going to see how it falls out and whether he can start rebuilding some of the things that he is taking apart right now. And I think the most important, the most significant one, at least at The Wall Street Journal that we look to, is the tariffs. And are you going to see in this upcoming week some deals being announced?
where the tariff scheme will begin to, to your point, become the purpose of it may become, you know, will be coming into focus in the next 100 days. Well, we've got a lot of new Fox News pulling out this week. So I want to walk through a couple of those. One of those things when we asked people how they feel things are going in the U.S.,
40% say satisfied, 59% say dissatisfied. Julia, that's a tough one for the White House. It is a tough one for the White House, but you could see potentially some hope for Republicans and President Trump. We know that Congress is back in session tomorrow and that Senate Republicans, House Republicans will be working hard to hammer out that
final big, beautiful bill, as the president likes to call it. So I think there is some opportunity there. But there's also a lot of pressure. Look, we know that President Trump has floated this idea, joking, maybe jokingly. We're not sure about running for a third term or pursuing a third term. But at the end of the day next year, it's not President Trump that's on the ballot. It's Congress that's on the ballots.
So when he goes to Michigan to mark his first 100 days, very competitive Senate race there. You have a number of competitive down ballot House races, their competitive governor's race. A lot of this is going to hinge on them. I know that obviously Democrats are looking to use these dismal poll numbers to tie Republicans to President Trump. But they have an opportunity here. We'll see if it works out.
So the next one, we've got several different issues, how the president is doing in his job performance. At the top of the list is border security. And Juan, he's up by 15 points on that. People can see the numbers, the concrete change at the border there. And while they may be frustrated with a lot of other things, that's one point they're very happy with this
president. Yeah. So he kept his promise arguably on the border. And I thought that what the congressman said to you is true, that we still the Congress still needs to act to have laws in place. So it's a permanent fix, not just temporary. But I'd say the success of modern presidents are all tied, as we know, to the perception how Americans feel about the economy. And despite what he says, the price of eggs is up.
uh despite what he's from where it was well i'm just telling you it's still up and there's an adverse impact i think from the tariffs there's a lot of uncertainty and people who are hiring people aren't hiring the way they should be because they say we don't know what's to come investors obviously have seen the markets have a rough ride and i think that consumers as a result also are a little hesitant about spending
But to me, this whole notion of Liberation Day, you know, they're just not the deals yet. To Annie's point, we don't see the deals. He says they're deals, but they're no deal. So the overall numbers that you see, yes, he had good numbers on the border, but not on immigration, not on anything else in the Fox poll. And overall, his 44 percent approval rating is.
Shannon, you know, that's below Biden. It's below Obama. In fact, it's below the first hundred days of the first Trump term. I think he was about 45 percent there. Yes. So he's one point below where he was in his first hundred days during the first term. So, Cal, how much heat if we don't see some concrete deals soon? I mean, inflation is down, but these tariffs really have rattled and they've got this 90 day pause. But when do you begin to deliver?
on that. Well, again, I think people don't really understand tariffs. Now, the president says other nations have been ripping us off for years. OK, but what does that really mean? And and how do tariffs fit in? And what would happen if we just zeroed out and had free trade? And by the way, Juan, the answer to egg prices, I'll borrow from Chick-fil-A. Eat more oatmeal. Always good health advice from Cal. OK, panel, don't go far. Much more to debate after this break, including this.
President Trump welcoming Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg to the White House just days after the reporter was inadvertently added to that signal chat with senior administration members. What is this all about? We'll discuss. Hey, guys. Mark here. Let's go.
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The fact that the president is still willing to welcome that reporter into the Oval Office to have a direct conversation with them is exactly what we should expect in a leader of the free world. And you had a previous president in Joe Biden who hid from the press, who didn't do press engagements, hardly did sit down interviews. And so I think this is exactly what the American people want.
Caroline Levitt, the White House press secretary, they're talking about President Trump meeting earlier this week with Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg. You remember he was, we think, inadvertently added to this signal chat with the national security team. Let's talk about it with our panel. Julia, he is not afraid to sit down with people who have been critical of him.
Yeah, that's what we were saying during the break. President Trump is someone who talks to everyone. I think he likes to, you know, maybe create this or, you know, put out this narrative that he's not going to be afraid to someone who might be, you know, sort of perceived as being hostile or critics would say are hostile towards the administration. And look, it creates a headline that he is going to sit down with this person that was involved in this group chat where sensitive national security issues occurred.
information was shared. So he is understanding, I think, how to work the media. I think his base will likely appreciate it because it's showing he's willing to meet them head on. And it's going to make news. Well, it will. We're all sitting here waiting for the article to drop because we want to know. He also had a really lengthy interview with Time magazine, talked through all kinds of issues, but about all of these legal things that are piling up. He said this, I would never defy the Supreme Court. I wouldn't do that. I'm a big believer in the
Supreme Court and have a lot of respect for the justices. And frankly, Annie, they're holding a lot of cards on issues he needs decided in his favor if he's going to get things done in this final term. Yeah, I mean, absolutely. And I think that this gets to what we were talking about earlier in terms of
how just how fast this administration is moving. And they're not, you know, they they, you know, critics would say they're coloring outside the lines at times, but they're trying to, you know, find that push the envelope as far as they can to to work fast. And some of the reason for this speed, if you know, if you talk to allies of the White House for the breakneck pace that they're moving at and the reason that they're
pushing right up against the envelope here, is they see that they don't have a lot of time. I mean, it's conventional wisdom, which in this town can be wrong, is that, you know, the House is likely going to go to Democrats. That's what usually happens in a midterm election. And so, you know, when you look at, you know, he has, you know, the first part of this year is done. He's going to be going to Congress. And then you move into a campaign era. So they see this as
two years to get as much done as possible. And I think that's a little bit of why you see him pushing so hard up against legal norms. Right. And it could be two, three years to get to the Supreme Court on any one of these cases. If you're going on the merits, they're doing a lot of emergency docket stuff right now. But they've had good weeks where they've had a lot of legal wins. This is not one of them. These are the few of the things that they lost this week.
Federal judges blocked efforts to strip DEI from K through 12 education. They ruled that they must return a second man who got deported from El Salvador. You can't block federal funding from sanctuary jurisdictions and also blocking parts of an executive order on election integrity that you would have to prove citizenship to vote in federal elections.
Juan, it's been a challenging week in the courts, but literally it's hard to keep up because when the next appeal or the ruling comes, we now wait. We wait. But I think the American people understand we have a constitution. We have three co-equal branches of government, and one of them is the judiciary. And Americans really believe that you should have checks and balances. And I think that's what we're seeing here is the polls. The Fox poll says that Americans agree with judges who've been challenging Trump on some of these rulings.
It's like 60 percent of Americans say you've got to follow the rules as set by the courts of the United States. And so I think he's got to understand that and respond because it's not going to be popular if he is perceived as defying the courts. And by the way, on the press, I think what he's done with the Associated Press is exactly contrary to speaking to everybody and being open to everybody. He says, you know, he's always talking about new media and he's pushing old media out of the White House.
But in fact, I think he's very responsive to legacy media, Time magazine, The Atlantic. This week, he went after The Wall Street Journal and Fox News. I mean, I mean, I think, you know, he's very sensitive to what the established media has to say about him. And I think we have to keep that in mind when you say, oh, he's talking to everybody. He tries to control the Trump show.
Well, he's very good at that. I mean, he understands messaging and producing and all of those things. And that may lead us to this other topic here, which is the appearance on the Trump merchandise website of a hat. Trump 2028. And if you zoom in and look at some of the writing on this and there's a T-shirt for sale, too, it says rewrite the rules. That's raised some eyebrows. And by the way, just a couple of weeks ago, I asked Attorney General Hambani about whether he thinks he could get a third term. Here's a bit of our conversation.
President Trump has served one full term. He's on his second full term. He's a very smart man. And I wish we could have him for 20 years as our president. But I think he's going to be finished probably after this term. Probably? Well, the Constitution. We'd have to look at the Constitution. It would be a heavy lift. And whether you get two-thirds of the Senate and House to go along with you. But is the concession that that's really the only way to do it? It'd be a heavy lift.
It would be a few lifts. I can't see this two thirds of this Congress giving him that third term. But there are other Trumps. What if this is about Don Jr. or Eric? Barron will be too young, but. Well, it's yeah. Which Trump is it going to be? But, you know, if it was this Trump, he would be far older than Joe Biden, who he said was too old to be president. Now, if he makes it to 100, he can still collect Social Security checks unless Elon Musk cuts him off.
All right. What do we think this is about? Is this just one of his really? I know what it's about. Smart trolls that everybody's talking about. He's trolling people like me, his critics. But I'm not going to take it. I'm not going to buy it, Shannon. I think, you know, to me, it's kind of ridiculous. The Constitution is there. But I worry that people who are his big supporters might take him seriously. And we know that can lead to disappointment and violence.
No, no, no. The hat, please, is not going to provoke any violence. It is going to provoke a lot of conversations like the one we just had. Panel, thank you very much. Up next, a chat with my good friend Dana Perino about one of the top questions we get very often. How do you find balance between your personal and professional life? I ask people, what is the best advice you ever received? And for me, that advice was take the chance to be loved. It might never happen again. Hey, Dad. Hi.
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She is a household name after stints at the White House podium and now as part of two hit shows on Fox News Channel. But Dana Perino's path was anything but predictable. It's all in her new book, I Wish Someone Had Told Me, out just in time for graduation season. Now, over coffee, we talked about the advice she did get that changed the trajectory of her life and career. It's this week's Sunday special.
Anyone who comes to me for mentoring advice right now, yes, they want to know about getting a promotion, asking for a raise, trying to find a work-life balance, but almost all of them are also searching for something more meaningful, and it could be a relationship or something that they feel that they want to do that is bigger than themselves. So to the point of relationships, you tell such a great story in the book where you're trying to figure out, do I pursue this career that may take me in a different direction? Hello, everybody. Got a couple of things for you.
In the book, I ask people, what is the best advice you ever received? And for me, that advice was...
take the chance to be loved. It might never happen again. And so what I tell people is choosing to be loved is not a career limiting decision. And I know that you know this too. So yes, I was working on Capitol Hill. I had a pretty good career trajectory going. And the one thing that was really missing from my life was I hadn't dated anyone in forever. I didn't know what was going on. I was part of a very active singles group at my church. And I remember talking to somebody who
was in our group she was a little bit older than me and she said well remember what God says is to fear not over and over again in the Bible and so she said just trust everything will be okay so when she said fear not I took a break
from worrying about meeting someone. Four months later, I met Peter on an airplane. There were no phones, no AirPods. We talked about the books and then we talked for two and a half hours. We decided we wanted to be together, but then I was very hesitant to make the leap to move to England to be with him because I thought one career wise that would kill me forever. And also I was very much worried about what people would think about me for marrying somebody so much older than me.
So I was at a family event at Christmas time that year and a family friend pulled me aside and she asked me what's going on with Peter. And I told her my hesitation was pretty honest with her. And she said, don't give up on this chance to be loved. It might be the only chance you get. And when I think about my career then, which was really, yes, it was fine. But and all the things I've been able to do since none of it would have been possible without Peter.
or nearly as meaningful without him either. You also talk about no matter what career or home life or whatever you're looking to get into, it's really important to listen. Listening is an undervalued leadership skill. And you and I both remember so well the late Charles Krauthammer. And think about how great he was on the special report panel with Brett Baer. And what was a key differentiator with him? He listened.
He couldn't take notes on a piece of paper and scribble or doodle. He couldn't interrupt. He chose not to because he was super dignified and he was thinking through what he was going to say. And he was such a good listener. So to the idea of balance, people may look at your life or my life or any of us and say they've got it all together where we may feel like we never have it together. Is it a fallacy? Is it?
A burden that we put on ourselves to expect that someday we will arrive at or figure out the perfect quote unquote balance. I have found that everyone struggles with work life balance and sometimes there's not enough work or sometimes there's too much work. There might be times like young people who are working at the White House now. They're probably working 16, 18 hour days. That won't always be the case. So you can try to maybe think ahead that work life balance is over the course of your life.
not necessarily your day-to-day living right now. Well, Dana's book, I Wish Someone Had Told Me, is available wherever you like to get your books. Coming up, Pope Francis laid to rest this weekend with some 250,000 people in attendance. Up next, a live report on the fascinating process of now selecting a new pope. We're going to take you to Rome for the Inside Scoop.
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The world is mourning the loss of Pope Francis. Thousands, hundreds of thousands traveling to Vatican City for the funeral on Saturday before his body is finally taken to its final resting place. Fox News contributor Jonathan Morris joins us live from Rome near Vatican City to discuss what comes next for the Catholic Church. Jonathan, wonderful to have you this morning. Everybody is fascinated by this process. How long is the time of grieving before the Vatican gets back to the business of selecting a new pope?
So we've turned a page. The funeral of Pope Francis is over, and now the cardinals are doing the hard work, the very human work, of discussing among themselves who will be next.
So we expect the conclave, which is the official beginning of voting for that next pope to be to happen beginning Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday. Not this coming week, but the following. It's a fascinating process, ancient process, but super transparent as well.
So how does this work? How does the first round of voting go? What does it take to get to a new pope? We watch for the smoke. And it's, you know, some of us still don't know. You say transparent, but we don't understand exactly what's happening.
So right now the Cardinals are beginning to meet in the backs of restaurants and hotel rooms, really talking about who do you know? What about this guy? What does the church need right now? Then when they go in the conclave, they will have no cell phones, no contact with the outside world. And they go and they one by one put in their first ballot. Then all of a sudden people realize, oh, there's now seven, eight, ten possible candidates.
Right. And so then two hours later, they do another round of votes and then they see who has switched their votes. Now, it's totally anonymous, but they start seeing coalescing around three, four or five candidates. Then they go to the next vote. So there's four votes a day. Every time that there is not a two thirds majority, black smoke comes out of the Sistine Chapel.
Then they go and they vote again. The last two conclaves, it took two days to come up with a two-thirds majority. It's said right now that it could be a little bit longer because the cardinals now are from so many different countries that they first have to get to know each other. Well, that's interesting. Quickly, we just have a few seconds. Can you tell us a name or two that you may be watching for? Well...
The Italians are always in play. And there's one who is the number two to Pope Francis, Cardinal Parolin, who is the Secretary of State. I think a lot of Italians and Europeans might get behind him. We'll see.
Then there are those who are perhaps a little bit more centrist or orthodox. And you know what? That could be coming from as far as Sri Lanka, an amazing cardinal there, or lots of other possibilities. But anybody who enters the conclave, a pope, so to speak, usually comes out a cardinal. That's what the Italians say. All right, Jonathan, thank you so much. And safe travels home.
Thank you, Shannon. All right, quick note. My podcast, Live in the Bream, drops today. I talk with my friends Gabe and Rebecca Lyons about their fantastic new book, The Fight for Us. It's a transparent, practical look at navigating marriage. So if you're in crisis or you just want to make things better, you're going to love the book. It's out now, The Fight for Us. And Live in the Bream, wherever you like to get your podcasts. That's it for us today. Thanks for joining us. I'm Shannon Bream. Have a wonderful week. We'll see you next, Fox News Sunday.
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