Kari & Kyle Hanks share their journey of leaving the secretive 2x2 church, a religious group with no official name, written doctrine, or corporate structure. They discuss their upbringings, struggles with faith, the exclusivity of the religion, and the trauma they endured. From discovering the church’s hidden history to creating a support group for ex-members, they expose abuse scandals, strict doctrines on women, and emotional suppression within the group. Their deconstruction was influenced by the Mormon Stories Podcast, COVID-19, and personal revelations about belief, identity, and autonomy. Now, they advocate for informed consent and support those leaving high-control religions.
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00:00:00 Introduction00:02:40 Kari & Kyle introduce themselves and the Two by Twos group00:14:04 They do not have a written doctrine, it is all word of mouth00:21:59 The founding of Two by Two - founded by William Irving00:28:28 It wasn’t until 1905 that the group started preaching exclusivity00:37:52 Irving is kicked out of the church, although some still stay loyal to him. Another splinter group.00:49:50 Three meetings a week01:00:46 Background of their theology/doctrine01:09:02 Discussion of Heaven & Hell01:17:04 Kari’s background in the church01:23:17 Growing up as a 2x2 girl01:30:30 How does the group refer to themselves?01:38:43 Never having the language to describe her feelings or sexuality01:42:09 Higher education was discouraged for many, especially women01:54:17 Emotional manipulation in high demand religions02:24:47 2x2s very politically conservative, but are not typically involved politically02:27:08 When did she start to think she was in a cult?
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