They were approached by FX and initially hesitant due to the book's length, but Rachel picked it up and found it to be a riveting and culturally significant page-turner.
They knew it was going to be 10 episodes but didn't initially know how to break down the 1,200-page book. They decided to focus on creating a cohesive narrative with a clear beginning, middle, and end, aiming for moments of surprise and inevitability.
They divided scenes and wrote separately, with Justin later assembling the scenes. They occasionally disagreed on punctuation, such as the use of semicolons versus em dashes, but found a way to collaborate effectively despite their different writing styles.
They wrote the script in English, which was then translated into rough Japanese. A Japanese playwright refined the dialogue to make it performable and culturally accurate. The subtitles were later adjusted to match the refined Japanese dialogue, ensuring a more authentic experience.
Megan had to create the show in a very short timeframe, flying to Berlin alone as the only writer and producer on set. She lacked a script supervisor, which led to challenges like managing continuity and eye lines during filming.
Susan mentioned that the 'Succession' writers' room was highly collaborative, with multiple writers on set at all times. They frequently wrote alternative lines and kept a close eye on the production to ensure the show's quality and timing were maintained.
Megan emphasized the importance of diversity in a writing room, looking for people with different strengths and perspectives. She also suggested considering non-traditional samples, such as one-act plays, to find unique voices.
Susan believes in blending comedy and drama, likening it to having both white and black keys on a piano. She feels that life isn't purely serious or funny, and a good story should reflect that balance.
John recommends an episode of 'Decoder Ring' that explores a mistake in the movie 'Charlie's Angels,' where a bird's species and song were incorrectly depicted. The podcast delves into how and why the mistake occurred.
Justin recommends 'The Brick,' a device that helps reduce cell phone usage by locking certain apps when the phone is placed on it. It allows users to maintain functionality while reducing distractions.
John and Craig make their triumphant return to the Austin Film Festival for a wild night full of Emmy winning writers. They welcome Shōgun co-creators Rachel Kondo & Justin Marks to look at their process for structuring a series-long adaptation, keeping translations eloquent and accurate, and writing together as a married couple.
We then welcome Susan Soon He Stanton (Succession, Dead Ringers) and Megan Amram (The Good Place, Pitch Perfect: Bumper in Berlin) to discuss staffing on shows and crafting jokes. We also invite two audience members to play a new game: IMDB Sweeney Todd.
In our bonus segment for premium members, the panel answers audience questions on adaptations, a crossover with Succession and The Good Place, entering Hollywood from outside the U.S., and navigating Hollywood’s current contraction.
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