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664 - Hollywood Got Old

2024/11/5
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John August: 本期节目讨论了如何应对影视行业中普遍存在的不确定性焦虑,以及好莱坞高层老龄化对行业发展和年轻一代职业发展的影响。他提出,在等待项目结果时,应专注于可控的事情,例如继续创作,并区分关注圈和控制圈。他还建议,如果经纪人或经理人长期没有作为,应该考虑更换代理人。 John August还分析了当前好莱坞高层老龄化的问题,认为这导致年轻一代难以晋升,行业发展受阻。他认为,年轻一代的野心和对成功的渴望不如以前强烈,这可能是导致行业发展缓慢的原因之一。 John August还讨论了“开发阶段”是否构成“工资盗窃”的问题,认为这取决于具体情况。他指出,在传统电视制作周期中,开发阶段的时间过长,导致许多作家长期处于不确定状态,这是一种不公平的现象。 John August还就听众提出的问题,例如如何处理在不同项目中重复使用素材的问题,以及成本加成模式的优缺点等,给出了自己的建议。 Craig Mazin: Craig Mazin从焦虑的本质出发,指出人们倾向于通过反复思考和寻求保证来应对焦虑,但这并不能改变现实。他认为,接受无法控制的事实是应对焦虑的关键。他还指出,决策者也面临不确定性,他们并非总是自信且完美的。 Craig Mazin还讨论了如何区分关注圈和控制圈,专注于可控的事情,例如继续创作。他认为,持续创作是最好的选择,不要被动地等待。 Craig Mazin还谈到了好莱坞高层老龄化的问题,认为这导致行业晋升通道受阻,年轻一代难以获得晋升机会。他认为,社交媒体等因素也可能导致年轻一代的野心和对成功的渴望不如以前强烈。 Craig Mazin还就听众提出的问题,例如如何处理在不同项目中重复使用素材的问题,以及成本加成模式的优缺点等,给出了自己的建议。

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Why does anxiety about uncertainty persist in the entertainment industry?

Anxiety arises because screenwriters and industry professionals are often waiting for decisions that directly impact their careers, such as script approvals or project green lights. These decisions are often out of their control, leading to prolonged periods of uncertainty and stress.

How has the aging of Hollywood executives impacted the industry?

In the 1980s and 90s, many studio heads were in their late 20s and early 30s, but as they've aged, they've held onto their positions, creating a logjam that prevents younger talent from advancing. This has limited opportunities for the next generation of executives and producers.

What is the 'development wage theft' issue in Hollywood?

Development wage theft refers to the practice of unpaid or underpaid development work, especially in television, where writers are often hired for short-term 'mini rooms' to develop pilots without guaranteed payment beyond a minimum wage. This has escalated with the collapse of the traditional TV cycle, leading to prolonged periods of unpaid development.

How does the cost-plus model in streaming affect writers and creators?

The cost-plus model, where creators are paid a fixed amount based on production costs plus a small margin, limits their upside potential. It disproportionately affects runaway hits, as success on streaming platforms doesn't translate into additional payments for creators, unlike traditional residuals. This model is seen as unfavorable for most creators, as it reduces financial incentives for success.

What strategies can help manage anxiety during uncertain times?

Strategies include recognizing that uncertainty is a natural part of life and focusing on what you can control, such as working on the next project or seeking new opportunities. It's also helpful to set boundaries for worry, such as avoiding social media after a certain time, and using techniques like deep breathing or physical activities to break anxiety loops.

Why is there a lack of ambition among younger industry professionals?

Younger professionals may feel less ambitious due to the distractions of social media and the constant comparison to others' lives. Additionally, the perception that the industry is an 'impregnable vault' can lead to a sense of helplessness. The rise of tall poppy syndrome on social media, where people are quick to criticize those who rise quickly, also contributes to this lack of ambition.

How does the rise of management companies impact the traditional studio system?

Management companies have largely replaced the traditional production companies, taking on the role of producers and offering more opportunities for writers early in their careers. However, this shift has also created a new layer of complexity, as managers now act as producers, blurring the lines between representation and production.

What is the 'mini room' system in television development?

The 'mini room' system involves hiring writers for short-term development periods (typically 8 weeks) to work on projects that may or may not be greenlit. Writers are often paid minimum wage, and the system lacks job security, as only one writer may be kept on to continue the project while others are let go.

How does the lack of a traditional TV cycle affect writers?

The lack of a traditional TV cycle means that writers are often stuck in prolonged development phases without clear timelines or guarantees of when their projects will move forward. This creates uncertainty and makes it difficult for writers to plan their careers, as they can't predict when they'll be able to move on to new projects.

What is the significance of Vince McMahon's approach to entertainment in 'Mr. McMahon'?

Vince McMahon's approach to entertainment, as highlighted in the documentary 'Mr. McMahon,' emphasizes the power of negative emotions like disgust, hatred, and betrayal to engage audiences. By creating himself as a villain, he successfully turned audience hatred into a business strategy, demonstrating how strong emotions, both positive and negative, can drive engagement.

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John and Craig look at how writers (and other humans) handle the anxiety of uncertainty, from election nights to green lights. We’ll talk through strategies for navigating situations where your circle of concern doesn’t match your circle of control.

Then we travel back to the 1980s and 90s, when many studios were run by ambitious strivers in their late 20s and early 30s. As the decades have passed, the players in these positions have held onto their posts, leaving the next generation stuck mid-ladder. We discuss what impact the aging of Hollywood has had on its output, and where the new guard might find an opening.

We also ask, is development wage theft? And answer listener questions on reusing material written for a different project, and the cost-plus model of production.

And in our bonus topic for premium members, what aspects of pandemic life have we incorporated into our daily routines?

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  • Scriptnotes LIVE! December 6th at Dynasty Typewriter)
  • AlphaBirds Game Night at Village Well)
  • The Big Squeeze: Why Everyone in Hollywood Feels Stuck) by Mia Gallupo for the Hollywood Reporter
  • ‘Development is Wage Theft’: Pilot Season Death Morphs Into Year-Round Hell) by Elaine Low for The Ankler
  • Isle of Arrows)
  • Rejection by Tony Tulathimutte)
  • Mr. McMahon) on Netflix
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