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667 - The One with Justin Kuritzkes

2024/12/3
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John August: 本期节目邀请了编剧Justin Kuritzkes,他今年有两部电影上映,一部是《挑战者》,另一部是即将上映的《酷儿》。我们将讨论他从剧作家到编剧的历程,以及两部电影中对性爱场景的处理。在会员加餐环节,我们将讨论他早期的YouTube视频创作经历。 Justin Kuritzkes: 我在洛杉矶长大,我的家人从事医生和律师等职业,但我的叔叔是一位编剧和制片人,这对我产生了影响。我最初热爱电影,高中开始创作戏剧,后来又创作小说和电影剧本。在布朗大学期间,我参与了学生自主运营的剧团,这让我对制作方面有了初步了解。学习戏剧主要通过阅读剧本,并从中学习不同剧本的格式和语言风格。学习剧本写作的过程是学习在其中找到自己的语言,并将每个剧本视为教读者如何阅读的指南。 《挑战者》是我完成的第一个让我感觉足够好,可以拿给别人看的剧本。将我的小说《名人》改编成电视剧试播集的过程,让我面临了如何在不透露主角姓名的情况下展现其身份的挑战。观看美国网球公开赛Naomi Osaka和Serena Williams的比赛,让我获得了创作《挑战者》的灵感。在创作《挑战者》剧本时,我没有一开始就进行完整的概要,而是从创作场景开始。我希望剧本能够像网球比赛一样精彩,并能够让观众在每个时刻都清楚地知道事情的利害关系。我一开始就知道电影的时间跨度,但不知道具体会在什么时候进行时间跳转。 《挑战者》剧本从2021年末开始创作,到进入前期制作只有5到6个月的时间,因此前期制作过程中也包含了剧本的修改过程。剧本在前期制作过程中会进行修改,以满足实际拍摄的需求,并融入其他人员的创意。网球顾问Brad Gilbert对剧本中一些细节提出了修改建议,例如运动员的排名。他和网球顾问以及ESPN的Mickey Singh一起逐点检查了剧本中的网球比赛场景。网球顾问帮助他们找到了专业的网球运动员来拍摄比赛场景。 《挑战者》是一部带有喜剧元素的电影,其幽默感体现在将人物置于熟悉而尴尬的境地。拍摄过程中会对剧本进行修改,例如添加新的角色和对话。拍摄剧本和最终成片之间存在差异,拍摄剧本更注重实用性,而最终剧本更注重阅读体验。导演Luca Guadagnino经常会在场景中添加额外的细节,以丰富场景的质感。Patrick在酒店登记入住时信用卡被拒的场景,虽然可以删减,但它揭示了Patrick的动机和背景。Patrick的信用卡被拒的场景,反转了观众对Patrick经济状况的认知。我从《醉乡民谣》等电影中获得了创作灵感。 《挑战者》中青少年三人在酒店房间发生亲吻的场景,是与导演Luca Guadagnino讨论后添加的,目的是让爱情三角形的三个角都“接触”。青少年三人在酒店房间发生亲吻的场景,虽然篇幅较长,但没有受到制片人的反对。我和导演Luca Guadagnino在《挑战者》拍摄期间开始合作,并随后共同创作了《酷儿》。我接受了导演Luca Guadagnino的邀请,改编了William S. Burroughs的小说《酷儿》。《酷儿》的创作过程与《挑战者》不同,我和导演在剧本创作前进行了大量的讨论。 我认为电影中的性爱场景应该具有戏剧性,并能揭示人物性格。电影中的性爱场景应该让角色拥有自主权,并且场景应该自然流畅。剧本中不能含糊其辞地描述场景,而应该提供足够的信息让读者和工作人员理解。剧本写作需要在提供足够信息和留白之间取得平衡,既要让读者能够想象出场景,又要给其他工作人员留下创作空间。创作具有吸引力的角色,需要了解角色的内心想法和行为动机。剧本写作中,不同的方面对不同的人来说难易程度不同,这很正常。

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Why did Justin Kuritzkes decide to write Challengers after initially planning to work on his second novel?

He was inspired by the intense cinematic nature of a controversial tennis match between Naomi Osaka and Serena Williams at the US Open in 2018. The match sparked the idea of exploring a deeper, non-sports related conflict between two people on a tennis court.

How did Justin Kuritzkes approach the structure of Challengers?

He structured the film around the idea of dropping characters into a tennis match and gradually revealing why the stakes were so high for them, even though the match itself seemed low-stakes. This approach was inspired by his desire to make tennis as compelling as possible by understanding the motivations behind each point.

What was the significance of the sunglasses in Tashi's character description in Challengers?

The sunglasses became iconic and were used to signal Tashi's emotional state throughout the film. They were added to the script after costume fittings, ensuring they were part of the character's visual and emotional journey.

How did the tennis expert, Brad Gilbert, contribute to the authenticity of Challengers?

Brad Gilbert, a tennis legend and former coach of Andre Agassi, helped refine the tennis sequences in the script, ensuring the rankings and tournament schedules were accurate. He also helped find real tennis pros to play the matches on set, treating the tennis scenes like action sequences.

What was the origin of the three-way kiss scene in Challengers?

The scene was inspired by Luca Guadagnino's suggestion that in a love triangle, all the corners should literally touch. Justin Kuritzkes then crafted the scene to feel organic and earned, placing it at the beginning of the film to establish the foundation of the characters' relationships.

How did Justin Kuritzkes approach showing sex on screen in Challengers and Queer?

He ensured that any intimate scenes were revealing of character and had dramatic stakes, making them essential to the story. This approach avoided the clichéd, music-driven sex scenes common in 90s movies and focused on the awkwardness and transitions of intimacy, keeping the characters' agency intact.

What was the writing process for Queer like compared to Challengers?

Queer was written while Justin Kuritzkes was on set for Challengers, allowing for more collaboration with Luca Guadagnino. They discussed the cinematic possibilities of the novella extensively before he started writing, making the process more collaborative and focused on honoring Guadagnino's vision.

How did Justin Kuritzkes handle the challenge of writing characters with social graces or charms he doesn't personally possess?

He focused on understanding the characters' underlying philosophies and motivations, ensuring that their dialogue and actions were rooted in their unique points of view. This approach allowed him to write dialogue that felt natural and surprising, even if it was based on a character's social awkwardness.

What is the significance of the burnt-looking signs in Los Angeles?

The signs are made of cheap plastic that disintegrates due to sunlight damage. This phenomenon is a recent result of using cheaper materials for signage, which has led to the signs looking brown and yellowed, as if they've been burned.

Shownotes Transcript

John welcomes playwright, novelist and screenwriter Justin Kuritzkes to discuss having his first two movies — Challengers and Queer — produced a single year.

After charting his journey from playwright to screenwriter, we compare two drafts of Challengers to look at how the story changed during a hasty development, including crafting that iconic three-way. We also explore adapting William S. Burroughs’ novel Queer, and the film’s approach to showing sex on screen.

In our bonus segment for premium members, Justin looks back on his time as a viral YouTube potion seller, and the value of that creative outlet early in his career.

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