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675 - Say Nothing with Joshua Zetumer

2025/2/11
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Craig Mazin: 我认为《绝不言败》通过讲述两个姐妹的故事,展现了爱尔兰共和军的复杂现实,以及在意识形态战争中理想主义的丧失。这部剧不仅是一部引人入胜的娱乐作品,还捕捉到了一个根本性的真理。我很好奇Joshua在创作时如何保持观众的注意力,以及如何处理历史剧的基调。 Joshua Zetumer: 《切尔诺贝利》对《绝不言败》的创作有重大影响。我希望《绝不言败》既真实又全球化,在喜剧与悲剧之间保持平衡。我认为这部剧的核心主题之一是激进政治的浪漫与代价,以及沉默的代价。我的第一部好莱坞剧本就是关于爱尔兰共和军的,但我认为《绝不言败》这样的剧集很难被制作出来。

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Craig welcomes writer and showrunner Joshua Zetumer, creator of the limited series Say Nothing, to explore the process of dramatizing real events — particularly when the subject matter can be volatile. They discuss how to keep a sprawling historical epic from feeling like a lecture, keeping a consistent tone, humanizing complicated people, and how not to get sued by the people who were really involved.

They also answer listener questions on following up with people after the fires, charting the emotional journey of the audience, and whether writers need to cite their sources when writing about real events.

In our bonus segment for premium members, Craig and Joshua pretend to be civil engineers and ask, how can we make Los Angeles function better?

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