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Cem Karsan: What’s Really Driving This Market Boom?

2024/11/19
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Cem Karsan:市场在选举后出现上涨,这并非仅仅因为某位候选人当选,而是市场中存在一种结构性支撑,一旦消除担忧,市场就会出现积极的资金流动。这种结构性支撑主要体现在市场中存在大量的市场中性仓位,这些仓位会在时间推移和风险再平衡的过程中产生结构性资金流。此外,年末的风险再平衡和资金重新杠杆化等因素也会对市场产生积极影响。市场是供需的函数,短期内是投票机,长期内是称重机,短期内的涨跌主要由买入和卖出资金流驱动。大多数市场资金流并非来自个人投资者,而是来自结构性因素,例如风险再平衡。市场中存在大量的空头头寸,这些头寸是用来对冲风险的,随着时间的推移,这些头寸需要被平仓,从而导致市场资金流的变动。市场本质上是一个为多头市场提供保险的机构,因为大多数人都是多头,所以需要有人提供对冲。 Cem Karsan:上涨行情中的波动性上升通常预示着更大的逆转即将到来。交易商对波动率的持仓会影响市场波动性。市场中存在一个巨大的套利交易,即做空下行风险,做多上行风险,并对冲风险敞口。市场结构的存在是因为市场存在大量的多头头寸,需要通过空头头寸来对冲风险。市场总是存在正偏斜,这意味着下行风险需要被对冲,这构成了市场结构的基础。市场结构不仅包括买入看跌期权,还包括卖出看涨期权,这两种策略共同构成了市场的平衡。对冲能够让市场参与者承担更多风险,促进经济活动和杠杆运作。“拥有尾部”是指持有远期权,即使市场发生极端波动,也能获得高额回报。市场中的结构性平仓会影响每日的市场走势。 Cem Karsan:标普500和罗素2000指数的相对回报差异,与结构性通胀和民粹主义时期有关。结构性通胀时期,市场长期回报通常较差。在结构性通胀时期,选举年市场回报通常较高,这与政府的财政支出和货币刺激政策有关。当前的市场上涨并非仅仅因为特朗普,而是结构性资金流的结果。40年的货币政策导致了严重的财富不平等,这最终导致了民粹主义的兴起。美联储的无限权力导致了40年来经济的低增长和财富不平等。持续的货币宽松政策导致资金流向资本而非劳动力,加剧了财富不平等。40年的货币政策导致了美国经济的低增长和财富不平等。40年来缺乏重大危机导致了财富不平等的积累,最终导致了民粹主义的兴起。民粹主义和保护主义导致全球冲突和通货膨胀。千禧一代及以后的世代正在通过政治决策来表达他们的诉求,这将导致民粹主义政策的持续。经济危机是不可避免的,也是必要的,因为它能够促进经济体系的重组和长期繁荣。市场中存在一种分散化交易,这种交易既非技术性也非基本面驱动。市场中可能存在对大型科技股的轮动,这可能预示着市场即将见顶。选举结果可能导致更大的变革,这可能会对市场造成冲击,但最终也会带来长期积极的影响。学习历史是理解市场和经济的关键。 Ash Bennington:对Cem Karsan观点的回应和引导,并提出相关问题。

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Key Insights

Why did the market rally post-election in 2024?

The post-election rally was driven by the removal of fear and uncertainty, leading to a structural bid for downside protection and insurance in the market. This, combined with year-end rebalancing and positive seasonality, resulted in positive flows and a market surge.

What are the key structural flows driving market movements?

The key structural flows include the rebalancing of risk, decay of structured positions, and the movement of implied volatility. These flows are primarily driven by market-neutral positioning across banks, market makers, hedge funds, and other entities that warehouse risk.

How does the decay of structured positions affect market flows?

As structured positions decay over time, the hedging of that positioning needs to be unwound, leading to positive flows. This is similar to how insurance on a home needs to be renewed if the house doesn't burn down.

Why does the market have a positive skew?

The market always has a positive skew because the world is long and needs to hedge downside risk. This means that the majority of positioning is long the market with a focus on downside protection, leading to a consistent positive skew in the S&P 500.

What is the significance of rising volatility during a market rally?

Rising volatility during a rally indicates that dealers and market makers are no longer massively long volatility. This can signal a potential reversal as the reflexive buying and selling effects that compress volatility start to unwind.

What historical period is most analogous to the current market environment?

The period from 1968 to 1982 is most analogous to the current market environment. During this time, increasing interest rates, global conflict, and fiscal policy led to structurally inflationary periods and populist movements, similar to what we are seeing today.

How has 40 years of monetary policy influenced wealth distribution?

Over 40 years, monetary policy has led to significant wealth concentration at the top 1%. This is because monetary policy, such as QE, sends money to capital, which is not inflationary and leads to technological development and globalization, replacing labor and increasing corporate profits.

What is the potential impact of populism on global conflict?

Populism, characterized by protectionism and closed borders, can lead to global conflict. Historically, periods of populism have coincided with increased global tensions and conflict, as seen in the 1960s and 1970s with the Vietnam War and the Cold War.

What is the dispersion trade and how might it signal a market top?

The dispersion trade involves observing underperformance in market leaders like NVIDIA, which can signal a market top. This underperformance, or 'jaws,' often precedes a broader market decline and can be an early indicator of a potential reversal.

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Cem Karsan discusses the post-election market rally, attributing it to the removal of fear and structural flows, including rebalancing and seasonality.
  • Post-election market rally driven by the removal of fear and structural flows.
  • Structural bid to downside protection and insurance in the market leads to positive flows.
  • Rebalancing and re-leveraging at the end of the year contribute to positive market outcomes.

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Cem Karsan, founder of Kai Volatility, joins Ash to share his insights on the post-election market rally. With markets surging after November 2024's pivotal events, Cem explores the key economic factors driving this rally, highlights potential risks, and discusses what investors should keep an eye on.

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