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The Dollar Dump (EP.408)

2025/4/16
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Ben Carlson
一位专注于投资教育和策略的金融专家,通过博客和播客分享投资见解。
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Michael Batnick
作为 Ritholtz Wealth Management 的管理合伙人和研究总监,Michael Batnick 是一位知名的投资专家和播客主持人。
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Michael Batnick: 我认为由关税引发的恐慌已经结束,但关税对企业盈利的影响仍将持续,这可能会导致市场再次下跌。美元在股市大幅下跌期间出现大幅贬值,这令人震惊,因为美元通常被视为避险资产。美元贬值的同时,收益率却上升,这与以往的市场行为不同,令人担忧。美国经济意外指数下降,而收益率却上升,这表明市场对经济前景的担忧。创纪录数量的全球投资者计划削减美国股票投资,这表明市场对经济前景的担忧。在特朗普暂停关税的当天,标准普尔500指数中98.2%的股票上涨,这表明市场对经济前景的乐观情绪。历史上,股市大幅上涨往往预示着未来股价上涨。历史上,股市出现19%的回调后,长期来看,股价往往会上涨。如果在股市下跌15%时买入股票,长期来看,投资回报率往往是正向的。纽约联储地区制造商的新订单预期已降至历史最低水平,这表明市场对经济前景的担忧。一些美国制造商正在将生产转移到海外,以避免关税。未来的数据比过去的数据更重要,因为市场是前瞻性的。市场面临多重压力,包括消费者和企业信心下降、收益率上升和信贷利差扩大。对政府经济政策的负面评论数量激增,这表明市场对经济前景的担忧。 Ben Carlson: 我不害怕熊市,因为我们经历过很多熊市,并且帮助客户度过了这些时期。资金从美国资产撤离的现象令人担忧,因为这可能会改变全球经济格局。尽管数据显示资金正在撤离美国,但我认为人们对当前局势的反应有些过度。我不相信特朗普的关税政策会对美国经济造成灾难性的影响,因为美国拥有强大的公司和消费者。我相信美国公司能够应对当前的挑战,即使这需要一段时间。即使出现温和的经济衰退,美国经济也能够克服挑战。我认为温和的经济衰退是我的基本预期,因为消费者的资产负债表非常强劲,并且我们已经证明自己能够应对高通胀。我认为赌市对经济衰退的预测在方向上是正确的,但其准确性值得怀疑。人类具有很强的适应能力,能够迅速适应当前的环境。首席执行官的信心已降至全球金融危机以来的最低点,这表明市场对经济前景的担忧。美国经济已经转变为服务业经济,关税不太可能改变这一现状。美国经济转向服务业是好事,但关税对美国制造业的影响不容忽视。中国加入世界贸易组织后,其出口迅速增长,超过了美国。资本主义会淘汰落后产业,这可能会导致社会问题。试图量化关税对经济的影响是徒劳的,因为会有许多无法预料的后果和行为变化。关税已经导致欧洲游客取消赴美旅游计划,这将对美国旅游业造成负面影响。外国投资者持有大量美国资产,如果他们大量撤资,可能会导致市场进一步下跌。市场可能需要经历一段时间的震荡才能企稳。虽然当前市场环境与以往不同,但股市仍然具有长期投资价值。我相信美国公司能够应对当前的挑战,即使这需要一段时间。如果投资者感到焦虑,可以考虑降低股票投资比例,增加现金储备。如果投资者感到焦虑,可以考虑降低股票投资比例,增加现金储备。市场择时是不可靠的,投资者应该制定长期投资计划,并坚持执行。对于那些刚开始投资加密货币的人来说,应该做好应对高波动性的准备,并考虑采用美元成本平均法。加密货币的波动性很高,投资者应该做好应对风险的准备。房地产投资的波动性较低,这对于那些风险承受能力较低的投资者来说可能是一个不错的选择。如果经济放缓,抵押贷款利率可能会下降,这可能会使房地产市场对买家更有利。

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This chapter analyzes the recent market volatility and the concerns among investors. It discusses the impact of tariffs, the falling dollar, and rising yields, highlighting the unusual divergence between these factors. The lack of contrarian voices among trusted experts adds to the overall uncertainty.
  • Unusual divergence between falling dollar and rising yields.
  • Widespread concern among respected investors.
  • Absence of contrarian viewpoints.

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On episode 408 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick) and Ben Carlson) discuss: the tariff tantrum, why a falling dollar matters, yields are rising, betting markets on recession predictions, sentiment is falling off a cliff, buying stocks when they're down 15%, the unintended consequences of Trump's trade policies, panic in the stock market, when you should sell some stocks and much more.

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