A conversation on Dr. Hayes' work in creating Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and the psychological processes that are involved in thinking about and acting in moments of pain.
Check out his book "A Liberated Mind":
https://www.amazon.com/Liberated-Mind-Pivot-Toward-Matters/dp/073521400X/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1612038395&sr=8-1
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