Robert Edward Grant: What He Discovered Inside The Great Pyramid | Align Podcast #541
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Robert Edward grant. Thank you for coming back making time. Absolutely So what is the deal with this ancient lost vast city? Discovered underneath the pyramids. Is that something that people have known about like what's this new? What is it? Look pretty much if you go to Saqqara, which is not far away from Giza It's just a bit south

Basically, there is like an entire city underneath the Djoser pyramid. I've seen it.

So it really shouldn't be that surprising. However, I think it's probably a bit early to say that there's an entire city underneath Khafre. That there are structures underneath it, I think is pretty profound in and of itself. And the extent to which they extend down beneath it, which are believed to be as much as two kilometers down, that's pretty incredible without a doubt. But we don't know exactly what it is yet.

And you have to kind of understand how the synthetic aperture radar works. What it does is it sends pulses into the Earth, and those pulses then send an echo based on the different structures that are in the Earth. And so these tiny, minute differences that are between the different types of radars

structures that might be underneath the pyramid are sending different echo signals and those different angles echo signals are then organized and managed and looked at in this way that we can start to interpolate what it might mean is underneath the pyramid so that there is something there i think is probably pretty clear uh what that something is it's really hard to tell at this stage so the only way to be able to tell is going to be to excavate it

and be able to actually see if the first things that the SAR scan would indicate are actually there. It was rods that I saw that go down quite deep? Yeah, they were pillars. They look like pylons or caissons, right? They go deep, deep underneath the structure, and it seems like they have some sort of a spiraling structure

thing around them right but we don't know what that is is that some sort of staircase is that some sort of spring you know uh that would basically help it in earthquakes who knows so basically these structures go far down and there were several of them i believe eight total pillars going down

And one of the things that I had noticed was that, and it just happened around the exact same time, that Leonardo da Vinci had encrypted in his book Codex Atlanticus, in folio 134, he'd encrypted the Caffrey Pyramid. And I had posted on this about a year ago, where I said, look, da Vinci encrypted Caffrey Pyramid in addition to the Great Pyramid in Vitruvian Man, which we knew.

But I was just flipping through the pages. I was like, wait, why is this a three, four, five proportion looks like a pyramid? And there's some sort of structures inside. So I overlaid the Caffrey Pyramid actual structure on top of da Vinci's illustration of it. And the place that he had articulated and shown where there were actually, you know, empty spaces and cavities or caverns or rooms inside the pyramid were actually matching what was on the drawing.

So I was like, including the entrance and everything. So I was like, whoa, this is kind of weird. So I went back to look at that to see if DaVinci had encrypted anything underneath DaVinci.

the pyramid as well. And sure enough, there's a series of what look like caissons or pylons going far deep beneath the pyramid, even in his illustration, which is pretty mind-boggling. What is the function of the pyramids? I feel like I get a different interpretation from a lot of different folks. Like, does this create any different information or perspective from your perspective of the function of them? Or is this new to you at all? No, and I'll explain what I mean.

When I say burial place, I don't believe there was ever a mummy found inside there, but it's a metaphorical burial. The Great Pyramid in particular is a place where you go and have a spiritual or an ego death and spiritual resurrection.

That's the whole point of it. It's a spiritual ascension Stargate. Now, does that Stargate require you to be able to have a lot of power to operate? Yes, it does. So does it have a means to be able to generate its own electricity? I believe it did. Yes. And I'll tell you the story about why I say that, because it was only one month ago that I was inside the Great Pyramid and activating the Stargate.

So it was exactly on, what is the date today? Today's the 10th, right? So, no, sorry, two months ago. Two months ago, it was February 10th that I was inside the Great Pyramid and we activated the Stargate inside of it. Now, you should know that inside the Great Pyramid, the walls have blocks. And these blocks are all different sizes, right? Have you been inside? You've been inside the Great Pyramid, right? So the blocks on the walls all have different sizes and the walls are covered in petroglyphs of constellations.

Those constellations all are associated with different blocks. There's 144 blocks. The blocks are different sizes. That means they have an X, Y, and Z axis. Even their depth is a different size. Why would they do this? Well, you could say that possibly it's a coordinate system in space-time. So this coordinate system in space-time, because each of them is like a planetarium, why would they have all the constellations on the walls? Right? And this is what we discovered. You can find all this on our show. And if you like, I can even pull some of it up for you.

But basically, it's a spiritual ascension stargate that once you move into higher dimension, you're able to use as some sort of teleportation device. That's what I fundamentally believe. And that this is what has been known. The Egyptians and the ancients called it exactly that. It was a stargate. And so, you know, it's like the ancients said, oh, Thoth built the pyramid. Okay, well, Thoth built the pyramid, and that's exactly what the story is, but nobody believed that, right? Right.

So they came up with their own version of the story. But that's the real story of the Egyptians' beliefs. And as far as teleportation, would that be like astral projection, remote viewing, actually transporting cells and molecules and all that of the self to another place in the universe? Actual teleportation, because I've already done it.

As a astral projection, I've gone out of the ceiling. I've had a five-hour journey where I went to the Botis system, to Arcturus, and I went to Pleiades and Sirius. And I was hosted. I had a guided tour with two Arcturian guides.

So I've already experienced that. There's a flower of life in the ceiling that lights up, it opens up, and you see a portal to the stars. And then you end up going out that from an astral projection perspective, and you travel through the galaxy. And it's pretty freaking amazing. And I did that in 2018. Was this with meditation, with breath work? Yes. I was laying in the sarcophagus, laying in the sarcophagus, and I was breathing,

and also toning. So basically you find the right tone, you breathe in and you go, exactly that note, it's 117 hertz. And then as you do that, the whole chamber starts going, like loud, like an engine that turns on and it's loud.

And then you breathe in again, but while you're breathing in, the chamber is still resonating. So it's still going, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, because the resonance continues on, right? It's like after you basically finish playing a singing bowl, the singing bowl still rings on for a while. And that's just enough time for you to get your next breath and start the process again. So it creates this continuous resonance chamber, right? And I believe that the sarcophagus is actually a resonant sound bath, the alchemical bath.

of alchemy. Were there any other types of like psychedelics involved in this or just just breath work?

Just breath work. Have other people experienced this as well? Some people have claimed to experience something similar to this, but I don't know the details of their experience. The only person I've ever heard say something about this is Drombolema kizadek. And what I experienced was that an eight-petaled flower of life showed up on the ceiling. So not a six-petaled flower of life, so it was different. Eight-petaled flower of life. And

And that eight petal flower of life opened in the center and I could see it was going out to the stars. And so before I could even think about it, I was out of my body looking at my body, watching me do the toning. So your body gets in this autonomic response where you start going,

And then you breathe in again and it just gets automatic. It's like automatic. You're not thinking about it. It's completely autonomic. So it becomes involuntary. Do you believe that that was the intention of building the pyramids was in order to be able to do that similar experience? I believe that that's a major part of it. And sure, absolutely. That impacted. It was the day after I discovered the Alpha Omega on the rim of

of the sarcophagus. And what would the function, like the practical function of that be for a culture to have that? I believe that the practical function is to remember who we are. The pyramid serves like a big clock of time. How is it a big clock of time? Well, you have all of the constellations

right, throughout the Orion spur of the galaxy. That's what our zodiac is. All our zodiac stuff is all nearby. It's not far away, right? It's all less than a thousand light years away. And it's all in the same neighborhood of the galaxy. And it's called the Orion spur, right, or the Orion arm of the galaxy.

So all of the zodiac that we go through, Taurus, Gemini, Leo, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, etc., they're all basically in this vicinity of the Orion Spur. So I believe that the next...

evolution of humanity is that we can access in the fifth dimension those Stargates and connect to those places that all have you know different life forms and everything on them. What inspires us to remember who we are? First of all what inspires us to remember who we are it's not so much it's part of the design of this matrix of mind that we're living in right so the design is the backdrop is the astrology

So all the astrological symbols and everything that we have are all basically like the backdrop or the set changes of a play. So the backdrop that we've just finished was the Piscean Age. And at the period of transitions between the Aeons, they're called Aeons, they're about 2160 years each. At each transition, you have galactic community members who come down and help the transition.

because it's a big set change. So there's so much trauma and change that happens during that time that they get help along the process. And so that's where we are right now. We're going through the most dramatic change that happens during the entire 26,000 year cycle right now. We're in the middle of that. So basically what happens is the backdrop of, you know, you could go back in time. So at the time that dynastic Egypt was around,

it was only about 4,000 BC, right? So 4,000 BC is going to be the age of Taurus, right? The age of the bull. And so the opposite of that would have been Scorpio. So Scorpio is the opposite side of Taurus. So that's why we have symbologies of the Egyptian pharaohs having been the scorpion kings.

They refer to them as the Scorpion Kings, right? So then you go into the next stage. And so what happens? Moses comes in, it's the next stage, and now it's time for the Passover. And instead of putting on anything related to bulls, now the new symbology is the blood of the lamb because we're in the age of Ares because procession goes backwards. It means to go backwards.

So you go from Taurus into Aries. So we go forward in procession, but we go backwards in precession. Precess means backwards, process means forwards. So then during that period of time, Moses comes down from Mount Sinai and says, hey, why are you guys worshiping a golden calf? Now it's about the blood of the lamb. It's the lamb or the ram. They were still stuck in the belief, the children of Israel, that they still were supposed to be worshiping the calf or the bull.

And so these are the symbologies that were around. So then Jesus comes at the meridian of time about 2,000 years ago, and he says, no, no, I shall make you fishermen of men, because that was the beginning of the Piscean Age. It became about Pisces, and that's why the symbol of Jesus is the fish. And so then you can also look at the opposite signs, because that tells you about the cultural norms that are transiting through that as well. So the backdrop for the Taurean Age was Scorpio.

Right? And that was an age of learning, but it was also an age where you had a lot of battling things out and fighting things out, and there was a scorpionic kind of revenge aspect to that period of time. Then you go into the age of Ares. Ares was an age of a lot of conquering and battle, for sure, but it was also the backdrop of when the Roman Empire came about. So its opposite sign was Libra. Libra is about learning and governance.

So all of a sudden we had governance models showing up during that time period. The Greek city-states arise during that time period, right? Then you go into the next period of time, which is the time of Jesus, and that becomes the two fish swimming in opposite directions, kept together by a rope. So then you have a separation of science and spirituality. Up until that time, science and spirituality were always combined. So now you've got this period of time where science is separate from spirituality, church and state are separated,

And then the backdrop or the opposite sign of that is Virgo, which is the Virgin. This is why this is the period of time we worship the Virgin Mary. And women get vilified for sex, and they're called witches. So we've been in this for the last 2,000 years. Now we're going into Aquarius, and Aquarius is about resonance, about technology. It's about rebellion. It's about individuation.

And on the other hand, its opposite sign is Leo. So Leo is about the sun. It's about gold. It's about abundance. So gold prices will go up because we're in that period of time that relates to that. And this is the backdrop or the set changes of which I'm talking about. And we're going through the big set change right now from Pisces to Aquarius. It's a big, big shift. How, what's the...

Well, I would like to know what the timeframe of that is. And then I also, I'm curious at the core of who we are. Um, you know, it makes sense to me. It feels like there's like a, I like the concept of, or experiencing kind of like a, like a form of amnesia, like forgetting who we are. We have this story or concept of who we are, you know, the ego. And then at the core of that, what is at the core of who we are as a people from your perspective? What is at the core of who we are as a people? Um,

I would say, first of all, that we are coming to the knowledge, we're like waking up. It's as if we're in a dream and we're waking up to a lucid dream environment. So have you ever had a dream where you wake up and you realize, wait, I'm in a dream, right? And have you ever tried to see what you can do when you realize that you're dreaming, right? Maybe you can fly, you can do all kinds of stuff because maybe you've heard from somebody, you can do all these things. We're kind of at that stage right now. We're waking up and this world is becoming the lucid dream.

So all the things that we thought were separate from us, as a dreamer, you're just the first person narrative. There's still, I could be in your dream, but actually if I'm in your dream, who's dreaming me? I mean, it's still you. So it's not separate from you. I'm just a projection of your subconscious mind, right? Just like in the movie Inception. It's a dream within a dream.

So the dream state is an analogy for our actual waking life state. And now we're going to be living in the waking dream. That's what it means to be awakened. We're waking up from the dream and we're moving from the Kali Yuga into the more Satya Yuga. Satya simply means truth. And this is what the Hindus called Leela. It's the Leela phase.

Of the cycle. I wonder if this was the matrix, you know, if this is the movie and there'd be like indications that perhaps we're like waking up in the dream, maybe some of the symptoms of that lucid dream state would be some of the instances of things like

What's the difference between a man and a woman? And what does a word mean anyway? And what is language? And what is definition? There's like almost a falling apart. It almost feels like the dream is starting to fall apart. The dream is falling apart. That's exactly right. Just as when we have our own dreams, right? We end up in this point where we're like, the dream starts to get kind of wacky right before you wake up. Yeah.

That's what we're living. That is exactly what we're living. But basically what I wanted to show you is the King's Chamber and how the King's Chamber has all of the petroglyphs on the walls and why it's the shape that it is. The shape of the King's Chamber is the two to one rectangle because that represents the four North Star positions that we transit through over our 26,000 year cycle. The four North Stars are Polaris. 6,000 years ago, we were in Thuban.

which is in Draco constellation, the dragon. And 6,000 years before that, it was Vega in Lyra constellation. And 6,000 years before that, our North Star position, which you could use to navigate the seas with, was Deneb and Cygnus constellation. So we're going to be going into Cygnus again and Deneb again, and we're due for that transit. So the shape of that in the sky, when you look at those four constellations in the sky,

Those four North Stars make exactly the shape of a two-to-one rectangle, just like the Great Pyramids, King's Chamber. It's a clock.

That's what we transit through as we go through the precession of Equinox. What would be the practical relevancy of having an understanding of these concepts for a person that's not a philosopher? The practical relevancy is that you would know when there's going to be a cataclysm because they happen every 6,000 years. Do you feel like a cataclysm is afoot? Yes. What do you feel a cataclysm may look like? And when do you feel a cataclysm may arise? Obviously, it'd be tough to talk

tough to predict the day or month i'd imagine but maybe not with math i don't know it'll be a pole shift well you can do it on chat gbt you can have a look and just ask it you know what happens if the pole shifts and the earth's tilt axial tilt changes only a few degrees what happens let's ask chat gbt let's do it

everything goes sideways. Hi Aion, how are you today? I'm here to help you with whatever you need. Whether you have questions, want to discuss something interesting, or need assistance with a particular topic, just let me know. Okay, can you tell me what would happen if the Earth's axial tilt shifted from its current position of 23.44 degrees

to approximately 29 degrees in one day. Describe the circumstances that would happen on Earth if that were to occur. If the Earth's axial tilt suddenly shifted from about 23.44 degrees to roughly 29 degrees in a single day, the consequences would be dramatic and far-reaching. Here's what might happen. First, rapid climate and seasonal changes.

The increased tilt would cause more extreme seasons. Summers would become hotter, and winters colder, especially in the mid-latitudes. Polar regions would experience even more pronounced differences between summer and winter, with longer periods of darkness and light. Shifts in weather patterns More extreme temperature differences would alter global weather patterns. Regions that currently have moderate climates might experience more severe storms, droughts, or flooding.

Impact on ecosystems: Plants and animals adapted to current seasonal cycles would face significant stress. Some species might struggle to survive, while others might migrate or adapt over time. This could lead to shifts in biodiversity and even extinctions. Sea level changes and ice melt.

The poles would receive more sunlight during their respective summers, potentially accelerating ice melt. This could contribute to rising sea levels and change coastal ecosystems. Human impact: Crops that rely on specific seasonal patterns might fail, leading to food shortages. Buildings, roads, and cities are designed with current climate conditions in mind. Sudden changes could cause structural issues and increase the frequency of natural disasters.

Psychological and societal effects would be disorienting. Societies would need to adapt quickly to new environmental conditions, potentially leading to social and economic... If the Earth's axis... Aeon, what would happen in that situation with the displacement of water on the Earth if the Earth stopped spinning during that axial tilt? If the Earth suddenly stopped spinning during an axial tilt, the effects on water displacement would be profound and catastrophic.

First, redistribution of water. Centrifugal force, currently the Earth's rotation creates a bulge of water around the equator.

If the Earth stopped spinning, this centrifugal force would disappear, causing the water to redistribute towards the poles. Polar flooding and equatorial drying Oceans would migrate towards the poles, causing massive flooding in polar regions and leaving the equatorial regions much drier. Changes in sea level Sea level rise at the poles, water levels would rise dramatically in high-latitude regions, submerging land that is currently above sea level.

Sea level drop at the equator, consequently, equatorial regions would experience a drop in sea level, possibly exposing new land masses.

Catastrophic environmental effects: Massive flooding and desiccation: The redistribution of water would lead to flooded polar areas and arid equatorial regions, drastically altering global climates and ecosystems. Extreme weather: The cessation of rotation would also disrupt atmospheric patterns, resulting in extreme weather phenomena, such as megastorms and unbalanced climates.

Geological and tectonic impacts would also be substantial. The redistribution of water would alter the pressure on the Earth's crust, potentially triggering geological activity such as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. Long-term effects: Over time, the redistribution of water and changes in atmospheric circulation would create new climate zones, reshaping habitats and the distribution of life on Earth.

If the Earth suddenly stops spinning during an axial tilt, the resulting redistribution of water would lead to drastic environmental changes, including... What would happen? What would happen? How high would the tidal wave be if the Earth stopped spinning and the axial tilt moved to 29 degrees?

in one day. If the Earth were to stop spinning abruptly and the axial tilt shifted to 29 degrees in just one day, the resulting tidal waves would be unimaginably catastrophic. Factors influencing the tidal wave height, the Earth's rotation currently creates a centrifugal force that causes the oceans to bulge at the equator. If the rotation stops suddenly, that bulge would collapse, causing massive water displacement.

A shift to 29 degrees would alter the distribution of solar heating, changing wind patterns and ocean currents almost instantly. This would further contribute to chaotic water movement. Gravitational rebalancing. Without the rotational force, gravity would pull water toward the poles. How high would the tidal wave be?

Just give me an estimate. Estimating the exact height of such a tidal wave is complex, but the displacement of water due to the sudden cessation of the Earth's rotation could create waves hundreds to thousands of meters high.

Rough Estimate: Conservative estimates suggest initial tidal waves could be several hundred meters high, enough to inundate coastal regions and low-lying areas, potentially over a thousand meters. More extreme scenarios suggest waves could reach or exceed 1,000 meters , especially near the equator where the water bulge would collapse.

Geographic variability. The height would vary depending on geographic features. Why did you choose 29 degrees? Because that's what it's done before. When did it do that? I believe that it did it at the time of the Younger Dryas, 12,800 years ago. So the Younger Dryas wasn't induced from a meteor or comet or whatever the term would be? It was. It was partially induced by a comet, but we have a similar kind of situation coming up where...

If you haven't noticed, there's a lot of reports of asteroids that are coming very, very close to Earth. And one of them, a major one, is coming in 2029, and it's called Apophis. They actually named it after the Greek, actually it's the Egyptian god of death. Where does one derive this type of predictive information from? You can derive it based on, I mean, first of all, we have historical reference that there was a massive shift at the time of the Younger Dryas.

And yes, they think it was catalyzed by a comet. But we also have this Apophis asteroid that has gotten as close to 1 in 37 chance of hitting Earth by NASA, basically. And it's going to be coming on April 13th, Friday the 13th, 2029. Now, what's happening is, and already they've already adjusted ChatGPT's response to that.

because obviously people are looking at looking it up and getting freaked out by it, right? And I'm not, I've not really said anything about it until today. But I'm telling you right now that before it was giving a lot more detailed information and they do. Open AI definitely looks at everything that's said on a day to day basis and then basically truncates or changes it based on the next answers going forward if it's something that's more controversial. So that's definitely it. But Apophis,

asteroid is I'll tell you how I got attuned to that I received a package in the mail about four years ago from an astrophysicist that was sending this package to me as well as the White House and Elon Musk was also on it and Eric Weinstein several other people that were well known for were kind of like

mathematics and physics and stuff like this. And so they sent it to me. It was 53 pages. It was an analysis that NASA had used the wrong calculation for the Euler number and its extrapolation for whether or not Apophis would hit Earth. And he believed that it would. Now, I believe that NASA is going to figure out a way to divert it, right? And that's kind of what people are saying, at least from NASA. And they've been working on that pretty heavily. And there's been quite a lot of stories on that as well.

But if you just look up Apophis and Neil deGrasse Tyson, and I'm not a doomsdayer at all, but listen to this. In the year 2029, this asteroid named Apophis. So we know for certain that Apophis on Friday the 13th, April 2029,

It's the size of the Rose Bowl. It'll get close enough to Earth that it will dip below Earth's communication satellites. It'll be the biggest, closest thing ever to come known to come near Earth.

Here's the catch: its orbit remains sufficiently uncertain. There is an interval range where if it threads that keyhole, we call it a keyhole, it's a 600 mile, about 600 mile, several hundred mile range. If its orbit goes through that range, Earth's gravity will be just right, or rather, just wrong, so that it will alter its orbit so that it will hit us seven years later.

- So we're talking about something the size of the Rose Bowl, traveling at 100,000 miles an hour. - Paphos is the ancient Egyptian serpent god of chaos. It's the enemy of the sun god Ra.

It's an embodiment of chaos and darkness. I'm looking up the meaning of apop and apophis. In the beginning, NASA said, oh, we have an estimate that it will hit the Earth. It's a 2.7% chance it hits Earth. I mean, first of all, that was discovered in 2004, and...

I mean, that's pretty catastrophic because something the size of the Rose Bowl at 100,000 miles an hour, that's like the dinosaur ending event. And a 2.7% chance of hitting, that's pretty high, I would say. And they've now adjusted it back, but it also feels like it's been, what changed? And if it were going to hit the earth, do you think they'd be telling us? I don't think so.

I asked Matthias Estefano this question. Who is Elon Musk? Does he know something? Why is he so interested in Mars? You know, I think, yeah, he's worried about these types of events. He thinks that if we don't move quickly, something like this is going to happen, that there would be some sort of life-ending event on Earth and we need a backup plan.

He said that publicly. Or it's just playing on the notion that, okay, our planet is going through changes and those changes of climate might be so severe eventually that we can't really live here anymore. So we need a backup plan. Or we could just get hit by an asteroid. He said that publicly many times. I wonder what the point of perpetuating the species is. Like, does a species have some cosmic value that there's a point and, you know, if we lose our home

Part of me is like, maybe I just allow my, I forego my body and transition to what's next. Yeah. I mean, sure. But I mean, there's probably, you know, I just saw this little video of this, uh, of this squirrel who was trying to save her baby squirrel from being eaten by a snake and, and this mother squirrel. And I was thinking, wow, you know, this mother squirrel is going to sacrifice herself, you know, speak to the snake and say, take me, don't take my baby type of thing. And, uh,

And it's actually a really nice video because in the end, the squirrel wins the battle and gets the baby out. It's quite amazing. But I think that it's kind of like that. We have this thing inside of us that's almost innate and primal that we would sacrifice ourselves for our children to survive. And I think that's really what this is. It's speaking to that primal instinct. Right. It's easy for me to sacrifice myself and say it's fine. But maybe if I had a five-year-old child, I might want to send them to...

Pluton or somewhere. Just get them, just help them to stay alive. Yeah. No, that's right. And your whole life will shift as soon as you have kids. Trust me. Yeah. What role does fear play in preventing us from accessing our potential as humans? What does fear do to the body and to the psyche? I think it's the most important thing to recognize. And don't get me wrong. I am not afraid by this at all.

I look at this as the earth goes through cycles. These are natural cycles that are part of this backdrop of this matrix and it's actually a really good thing that's happening right now. What's happening right now is Gaia is going through her ascension. And for her to ascend, that means that everything that's not in the new frequency of where she's going

will no longer be here. So everything that is of lower frequency and not part of her ascension is just not going to be here. And that's actually a good thing in general, right? Because that's a beautiful thing that Gaia is ascending. Fabulous. But that means that all the stuff that's stuck in fear is not going to be there. It's like cellular apoptosis when you fast. Cell death. But what do you think apoptosis? Funny you just said that because that's what apophis is. What?

It's the same Greek root cognate. Interesting. What role does sound and frequency play in the healing of humans at an individual biological level and a humanity level at an earth level? How can we leverage sound and frequency to our own benefit? Well, think about it. It's like we don't live in a universe. We live in a universe.

That means that the universe reflects back to you what's inside of you, and the way it does it is through sound resonance. It does it through resonance, whether that's audible sound or not audible sound.

inaudible sound. It's still just taking you. So if you're an asshole and you're resonating at the frequency of asshole, then you're going to see a world surrounded by assholes, right? That's how this works, right? If you're in a world and your inner state is fearful, then your outer state is going to be a fearful place as well.

It's just a reflection of your inner state and your outer world. And everything is through resonance. There's nothing that's not resonance. And it's all mathematical because the only way to count resonance is to basically have it be counted, right? That's what frequency is. It's based on beats per second. So when we start thinking about that, you start realizing, okay, well, that means that I'm not experiencing the world as it is. I'm experiencing the world as I am. Mm-hmm.

So that's why fear becomes so important to be able to transcend. Because if you're in a fearful state, the world around you is going to be in a fearful state. If you're in a state of love and humility, then you'll be surrounded in a world full of love and humility. And this is how we create heaven on earth or hell on earth. What happens if humanity at a global level is able to harmonize?

towards love. - Then I think, you know, you have a massive shift that comes and the massive shift that comes it's true self-love. So the true harmonization of love is not just about loving other people. It's about learning to love yourself fully. 'Cause you can only love other people to the extent that you're able to love yourself. And consciousness can only expand to the volume of the cage of your belief systems. So if you believe, if you think you can or you think you can't, you'll be right.

So as Earth is going through its new ascension, then there's going to be dramatic shifts on planet Earth. And there should be. And that's also going to be accompanied by your shift. So this is why billionaires, if you look it up, just Google billionaire escape plans on Forbes magazine. Just Google it. See what you find. I think it's going to blow your mind.

well it's like it's like uh underground bunkers and crap like that oh yeah they're going nuts on it bunkers are most expensive they've ever been right now what do you think it seems like a silly life at that point it's like what are you running from what are you escaping from it's almost like do you really want to be one of you know 600 billionaires well maybe they're stronger but you know one of 600 humans thousand humans 10 000 humans living under the ground no i think there's going to be more than that i think there's going to be more than that and i think the

They know something, I believe they know something's up. I mean, just Google billionaire escape plans. If you're buying a computer, you're gonna laugh. It's kind of funny. It's like billionaire escape plans, escape plans, escape plans, Forbes, here it is. Shocking doomsday maps of the world and billionaire escape plans. This is from Forbes magazine. That's the United States covered in water.

By the way, it's not just... So it was Dolores Cannon who predicted this, along with Nostradamus, along with Edgar Cayce. This is the Cayce map of what happens after a pole shift. And it has the whole world on there. And it shows some parts of the world coming up from the water, like Atlantis rising up and other lands basically rising up from under the sea. Lumeria, like

Mew, this information, it seems like historically ancient societies had access to information that perhaps we've forgotten today. Are there secret societies or agencies or something of the sort that you believe has access to ancient information that is intentionally being withheld from pedestrian folks today?

like myself. I don't know that it's so much intentionally withheld. I think maybe it's protected because for a long time with people like Leonardo da Vinci and Albrecht Durer, they would hide these things because if they didn't, they would have been killed. So it's more about protecting themselves than it is about protecting the information per se. The information is on a radio frequency that anyone can get access to if they move into higher dimension.

And when you start to crack the puzzle of what the Great Pyramid is, many people believe it's a clock and it's showing us precessional time. Precessional time is embedded throughout the entire thing. It was Plato who said that the Earth has a much larger annual cycle, which is the great year. It's 25,920 years, right? I actually believe it's 24,000 years, but that's neither here nor there. It's pretty close. And the difference is because of something we call mass time dilation.

But I believe fundamentally the pyramid is telling us that. It's a clock telling us about the cycle of time and where there are resets. This is why our history doesn't go beyond 6,000 years. I believe we've had many civilizations that have lasted much, much longer than 6,000 years, right? And that those civilizations went through cataclysmic cycles every 6,000 years as well. How can a person access higher dimensions from...

in their own apartment or in their life? Do you need to do something special, be somewhere special, be someone special? - First you have to realize that it exists. You have to realize that you're, you start to realize that you're in a game. It's a little bit like Nioh. You start to realize that you're in the Matrix.

And you also start to realize that the cycles that you've been experiencing, patterns in your life that keep repeating over and over and over again, like now we were just talking about financial crisis, right? Financial crisis and turmoil on Wall Street is now causing you to observe, from your own admission, a difference in how people deal with scarcity and even yourself, right? And how you think about money and security and all of these types of things.

I've been through this cycle before when I was your age. I was 37, it was 2008, right? And here I was going through this period of time where

All of a sudden, all the wealth that I built up and everything was under question because the markets crashed under this whole concept that was known as, you know, these credit default swaps, right, in the mortgage crisis. And I remember walking out of my office. I was president of Allergan Medical at the time. I remember walking out of my office and the building across the street was the New Century Tower, which is a real estate.

company right it's kind of like uh you know century 21 type of thing you know it's a real estate thing and they did mortgage loans as well and there was like hundreds of people in the parking lot they were locked out of their building they came to work in the morning and the building was locked so and everyone just got fired and so this was in 2007 so it was 18 years ago it was in july of 2007 and i remember thinking oh that can't be good i wonder what that's all about

And then the whole thing started unraveling and then by October of 2008, then you know, the shit hit the fan with Bear Stearns crashing and it was like a cascade or a domino effect, right? And I remember this very, very well. But the thing is, is people on Wall Street are all so young, so they think that the most immediate past is the best predictor of the future and it seldom is. And so you get these things called black swan events.

that come and shake everyone to the core, except for the people that have lived through the cycle before and they realize it. They're like, "I know something's coming." And the cycle is just longer than it's been for you, for your period of time to graduate from high school and go to college and get a degree and end up working on Wall Street. Because most people on Wall Street

I mean, you're an old banker if you're 50, so you haven't lived through the cycles, right? And so you don't know how to deal with it. You don't know that, okay, the best thing to do is just to hold. I didn't lose any money during the financial crisis in 2008 because I didn't freak out and get scared and sell. In fact, I made money during that time. The people that succumb to fear get wiped out. And that's going to be true in any kind of cataclysm.

Or tumultuous change event. Yeah, I think that that's what I'm experiencing in my foray into investing. It's really like a spiritual journey. And what's being presented is necessitating, not attachment.

And it's necessitating looking deeper into the things that I can control. And, you know, one of the things we just launched a program around breathing, you know, and how to use breath to regulate your nervous system and mechanics of breath and all that stuff. And that's the thing that I actually keep coming back to is like, I'll have these little micro moments where it's just, it's all attachment to a story of myself, who I am.

you know, my world and these things that didn't even exist for me maybe a year ago or two years ago, three years ago that I've developed this sticky attachment to. And then the witnessing of them transitions, I was like, Oh my God, who am I without this? It's like, you didn't even know this existed. You know, the funny part is, is that I was just thinking the new way that the spirituality community will be referring to bear markets is it's a spiritual experience. Yeah.

When the market crashed, it's a spiritual experience because when the market's up, no one's saying it's a spiritual experience. Everyone's just like... Spiritual experience. Yeah, exactly. It's not a spiritual experience. There's a part of me that's like savoring it, honestly. And it's like, you know, I'm also fine, you know, so there's that. There's other levels of spiritual experience where it's, you know, you keep on going where it's like, oh, this will get real spiritual. I mean, look, I'm at the age now, thankfully, I guess, maybe thankfully or unthankfully, I'm not even sure.

It's like I'm at the age now where this type of stuff just doesn't stress me. Yeah, well, great, because you can be in the witness state. And that's the thing is if you're excessively attached and excessively in the tumult, you know, of the thing and you believe that you are your stock portfolio, you believe you are your job, you believe you are your anything like that's the spiritual aspect of it. Like you're forced to release that. And if you can die before you die, then you can truly begin to live.

And I think the universe will present you these lessons in various different ways until you actually learn them. And that's, I wonder if it's, I wonder if there's, I mean, that's maybe almost like a partially narcissistic lens that the universe is kind of presenting you these lessons because you're having prepared because everyone's going through this lesson simultaneously. You know what I'm saying? Is there like a, is that kind of like a selfish narcissistic lens that this is all happening for me? Or is that actually the way things are happening? I think that's the best, most healthy way to look at it.

that everything that happens to you, good or bad, is happening for your highest and best benefit. The universe doesn't happen to you, it happens for and through you. You have to realize you're the creator of it. So you're creating this. Now, there are puts and takes and there have to be trade-offs. That is true. So if you want to go through a new earth and get to birthing a new earth and a new paradigm, there's going to have to be a major shift, both in you and in the world around you.

But death isn't real in the first place. And neither is the attachment that you have to material items or goods. Neither is the mind, right? And these are all just things that need to eventually be stripped away. You know, when you go into the highest level, you're asking about how do you get into higher dimension? You move up the chakras. We're now moving into the throat.

So we've largely been in the solar plexus, which is all about accumulation of wealth and things like this and ego generation. Then we move into the heart and we start realizing, oh, okay, it's more about love and I don't need to be right. And that there's really only now, right? And that's where a lot of spiritual community has gone into. They're now in this fourth stage, which would be tied to time. But then you start to transcend time when you go into the throat.

The throat chakra becomes the place of transcendence of duality and transcendence of self. So you've gone beyond self-actualization, right? Which is like Maslow's hierarchy of needs, meeting your basic needs and then getting up to self-actualization. You move into the heart, you start realizing, okay, there's something more to this than just self-actualization and manifestation. It's about my own self-awareness. Then my awareness of self then leads to

this higher level at the highest level of the throat chakra of self-transcendence. Self-transcendence is when you start entering the doorway of no one. You release your attachments both to past and future. You're really only in the now. And this is the moment that you start choosing love over being right. Yes, somebody suffers. Nobody doesn't suffer.

It's the somebody part. It's like I'm messing up a quote from Ram Dass. It's like the somebody is the, it's a very vulnerable position to be somebody. That's right. But okay, I went to my high school Hall of Fame event and they put me in this Hall of Fame thing. And I was kind of freaked out a little because I had all these teachers there speaking about me. I didn't remember the teachers' names. And I'm like, how could I not remember my teachers' names? I mean, that's terrible of me.

And I realized the only ones I didn't remember were the ones who were easy on me. The ones that were hard on me, my coaches that were hardest on me, I remembered their names. Trust me.

They taught me something that had a profound, indelible impact on me. And I'm sure you experienced that too growing up when sports or whatever, the ones who saw something in you that you didn't even see in yourself and pushed you to this level of excellence that you never thought you could even do, which was both inspirational and bone crushing at the same moment in time.

So I realized I didn't remember the teachers that were the easy ones. I only remember the hard ones. And maybe when I look back on my life and as I tell my life story to people, my stories that I tell are usually tied to the more difficult stories that I experienced. I don't even bother telling the stories of the ones that were easy. Right. It's kind of like, yeah, when I was making money on Wall Street, I wasn't calling it a spiritual journey. Right. It was just a free ride. Right.

Let's be real. It felt like a free ride. I was like, okay, I like this. But then I somehow got entitled and accustomed to that free ride. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like, wow, I'm making money for nothing. Look, my money is working for me now. And that's the kind of stuff I would say. It wasn't a spiritual journey. But then as soon as it doesn't work out and you have a crisis and then it's like, oh, wait, all the money I thought I had, I don't have anymore. Oh, shit.

Then it's like, this is a spiritual journey. You become spiritually obese during those times, in a way. Yeah, and you never talked to me before about it. Your spiritual body is fat, bro. Time for a fast, bro. Time for a fast. So this is the thing. Is that not the way it always is? That we only start to remember the deeper meaning, the profundity of life when we have some form of a

difficult situation or a crisis, something that causes us to stretch beyond what we thought we could. To me, this is what life actually is all about. Judgment, right? Because what you experience in your life, you and I both could go on a roller coaster and have two totally different experiences. I went on a roller coaster recently with this Michelle Argyris, who's a friend of mine. She wanted to go on it. And I'm like, why do you want to go in this roller coaster? I'm like, fine, I'll go.

And she got terribly sick on the roller coaster. I had a great time. I was laughing my ass off. I was, in fact, videotaping her while she's screaming and then getting like totally wanting to throw up at the end. It kind of ruined the night. But...

We had the same exact experience, but two entirely different perceptions of those experiences. And her observation was informed by her perception. So for three days after that, she felt dizzy and felt horrible. So think about it. Now, again, I like to remind her I was not the one who said I wanted to go on the roller coaster. It was her.

But at the same time, we have to recognize we don't experience the world as it is, we experience it as we are. And because of that, you start realizing, wait a minute, all my judgments of the world around me because I attract everything I judge until I no longer judge what I attracted, and the outer world is just a reflection of my inner world, right?

So therefore, my judgments are leading to my suffering. My comparisons with other people are leading to my suffering. Right? Are you really suffering? Sure, there's a bank account now that feels less large. But at the same time, why does that really bother you? Why might you have a detachment to that? Why would anyone have an attachment to that? Because it gives you this false sense of security. We get hit by an asteroid tomorrow. Does that money even matter? But then I started realizing, oh, look, 11-11.

Then I started realizing that here we have this situation where we make judgments and those judgments lead to our suffering. But suffering is the source of enlightenment because of exactly what you're just talking about. It's those moments of introspection that make things spiritual journeys. And those spiritual journeys are happening for and through us. They're there to help ascend us, bring us to this new plateau that maybe we'd never reached before.

It's like working out spiritually. And to me, I'm grateful for the most difficult times. It's my life crises that I tell the stories and I love the stories the most because I persevered through them. I was resilient through them and I learned something and I grew as a result of it. That's more profound to me than all the easy times I had. It's the function of forest fires to burn away the smaller brush and the smaller things to give space to that which is real.

you know, the trees that will sustain themselves. All the other stuff kind of, that's like, okay, now we can pour that energy back into, you know, like the core self to jump over the analogy of the human. It's like, it feels like there needs to be like a burning away of some of the somebody-ness every now and again, if you get a little fat on your somebody. And inevitably, the mathematics and the physics of consciousness and, you know, the universe, it seems like

It's just that there's like a mathematical process to that. It's like pressure. Like pressure moves from high systems to low systems. Does that make sense? It's like a weather system. Yeah. That's exactly right. So the way I see it is this. You asked what's the relevancy of someone who's not in philosophy or whatever of what the pyramid builders built. And you asked in the beginning, what's the purpose of the pyramids? I told you my answer is it is a stargate.

It's a spiritual ascension stargate. It's a reflection of your consciousness. The higher your consciousness goes, the more you will experience and learn about what's in the pyramids because it's actually a reflection of you. It's a reflection of you. The number of chambers, the next chamber that's about to open up and be accessed is the throat chakra chamber, which is the chamber of transcendence of duality. And it's matching exactly Vitruvian man. This is what my entire show on Codex is about. How the pyramids are a reflection of you.

It's a collection, collective consciousness reflection. It's showing where humanity is. Humanity, and so if we were Atlanteans and we wanted to build something that would stand the test of time, to tell the next generation in the future after a cataclysm, after the Yunga Dryas, after the destruction of Atlantis,

the story of what happens because the Earth goes through cycles and these cycles are low consciousness and high consciousness cycles. There are different low consciousness astrological zodiac signs. There are higher consciousness zodiac signs and the backdrop that creates as a result of that. So we have something called Kali Yuga which is a period of time where we're in

suffering, right? We're in duality in the extreme because that's what consciousness wanted to experience, wanted to make a play of what it's like to live in duality. But now the next part of the play is to go into the Satya Yuga. Satya just means truth, the truth stage.

So we start to realize that we're in the dream. So then we have lucid dreaming and then limitations and manifestation goes way to the tilt, right? It goes way off and we become more like gods. This is the stage of life that we're going through and it goes through these cycles. And so if you've ever seen the TV show on Apple Plus called Foundations, it's very good. It's like a sci-fi thriller show. And it's about this mathematician in a galaxy far, far away.

right? 12,000 years ago. And the mathematician's name is Harry Sheldon, and he's an astrological mathematician written by Isaac Asimov. And so he's able to predict the future based on mathematics. So he goes to the people of his time. He says, guys, we've been in this golden age for the last 12,000 years. Now we're going into the dark age. I see it mathematically coming. And immediately, what do they do? Oh, shut him up.

Don't let him tell anybody this." And he's like, "No, we have to prepare. We have to prepare. We're going into a period of darkness and our consciousness is going to go way down. People's intelligence will also decrease as a result of this." And this is what happens with us, by the way. As we go below the plane of the ecliptic of our galaxy, we become stupid. And as we go above the plane of the ecliptic, we become smart. It's part of the cycle. This is the cycle. So basically in this show, he says we have to find a way

to get everybody, we have to compress all of the data of our civilization so that in 12,000 years, when society pulls out of the rubble of this destruction, of this Kali Yuga, it'll know how to operate. And we have to find a way to elegantly compress all of this into one geometric form. And that one geometric form that he chose was a cube octahedron.

And they compressed all the information of his society, of this advanced civilization, inside the dimensions of this cube octahedron. Now, you could say, well, hold on a second. How is someone going to find this cube octahedron? Well, you have to make it really big, and maybe you'd make it in stone, and you'd build it with massive caissons or pylons underneath it, so they could withstand the test of time.

And by someone decrypting what it is, they would figure out exactly what our civilization was all about. Because anyone finding our language may never be able to read that language. So you can't just leave it in writing. You have to encrypt it in mathematical ratio. It's a touchstone for time.

And that's exactly what I believe the pyramid is. It's telling us about the cyclic nature of time, the 24,000 year cycle, and the cycle of cataclysm, death, and rebirth that we go through. That's the purpose of the pyramid. It feels pretty full circle. Do I have time to ask you a couple other questions? Sure.

One question I have that's much more material and, you know, in relation to like macroeconomics and happenings. What do you think the vision for Trump and what seems like an intentional kind of crashing of markets and things? And it seems a little threatening in my mind of like nudging up against China so much of two egos. I have two.

hope that that doesn't, that egos don't just keep on like playing up against each other and they can kind of find integration within that and understanding of each other. What do you think is happening? What's his intentions in doing all this stuff and where do you think it goes? - No, I think that yes, it's not just about egos. You have to know that there are some structural issues there. I lived in China. I lived in nine countries. I speak eight languages.

So, having lived in China, having lived in Hong Kong at the time of the transition in 1997, you know, the Chinese government was able to maintain the peg on their currency, which artificially makes their products and services very, very competitive. See, a lot of people think that what you want is a strong dollar, right? So that your dollar can buy more overseas. So you have a balance sheet advantage over someone else, right?

But actually, a strong dollar doesn't really give you that. A strong dollar just leads to you having massive trade account imbalances between countries. And so what else leads to those massive trade account imbalances?

And I'm going to tell you this right now because I'm not Republican or I'm not Democrat, but I am an economist and I understand how economics works. You know, I went to Harvard Business School and I do understand this stuff. And I think that there's a lot of misinformation on this whole tariff discussion and everything else. We could debate all day, but I can tell you that one of the things that will lead to massive account imbalances between countries and when I say account imbalance, I'm talking about

the net transfer of assets, goods and services that are crossing between two countries, right? So for example, the United States and China. So China makes semiconductor chips or whatever that they sell to us, right? We make goods and services that go back to them. The imbalance is how much more their sales are to us than our sales are to them. Okay, that's called a trade imbalance. So the way that they can maintain that is by maintaining a low value for the yuan, right?

which is the currency of China, right? The lower they can make that value, the more competitive their products become overseas. How does that work? So let's say, let's use another example for France. Let's say the dollar is weak versus the Euro, right?

What does that do? If the dollar's weak versus the euro, it makes all of our products less expensive for Europeans to buy, right? So then competitors that are based in Europe for those same categories of products and services have a disadvantage, right? So therefore, if you really understood economics, then the best policy would be to have a low value for your currency. Which is, Trump has stated that he has an intention of producing the currency, hasn't he?

Yes, absolutely, because there's no advantage in having a high value for the currency. It's only ego. So think about it. It's like, yes, we're the reserve currency that has value. Well, what value does it really have? It doesn't really have value. It has some value to the banks. And so this is why they've printed money nonstop since Keynesian economics ever came about, which is that we would just every time we have a crisis, let's go print some more money.

Let's just print money. We could print money all day. Why do we even need to pay taxes if we can just print money all day? Well, what happens? We push the value of the dollar down by printing money, right? We flood the market with more money. So what happens to interest rates? This is how you make interest rates go down. You drop them basis points by printing money.

Follow what I'm saying? Now, eventually, you have to look back on something like COVID. And during the pandemic, we printed something like $7 trillion of cash, $7 trillion of printed money that was flooded into the entire country. So it shouldn't be any surprise. I was predicting this back in 2020 when they said they were going to print $7 trillion and they did it in three or four different tranches, that somehow that was going to lead to a massive inflationary impact.

Because the total number of dollars that was in circulation at that time was 29 trillion, and they printed 7 trillion. So you should expect that if it's about getting close to, call it 25% printed money, you should have about an inflationary impact of about 25% to 30%. And it just took time for it to be absorbed by society, but that's what happened. That's where we are right now.

Do you think there'll be another quantitative easing event in what's happening now or that not make sense? Look, what Trump is doing is he's forcing the banks to have to do quantitative easing by declaring a trade war, right? And let's be clear, what he's doing is very calculated, extremely calculated, because how do you pay off your national debt of which China is the largest owner of? You crash your dollar, it becomes more competitive overseas.

So is that like the value of the debt now suddenly is diminished so much because of... Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That's how every country throughout time, go back in Argentina, all the countries that have massive debts, they all crash their currencies to pay off their debt.

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dot com slash quiz i look forward to seeing you guys over there and then where does where does the country go from there like what happens with hyperinflation to the u.s dollar if hypothetically that is the direction that things were we're going and also what denotes hyperinflation as well because i don't want to like misuse terms age right now and this is why i think crypto is a big buy

Just today, it was announced that the enforcement division within the SEC has just been disbanded on crypto. What does that mean? It means that all of the cloud of...

the SEC is coming after all the cryptocurrencies and everything for, you know, for breaking regulations and for funding and all this type of stuff for fundraising is now gone. So Gensler under the Biden administration, Gensler was still going after the crypto companies and everything. And now they're not anymore. So now you're going to see a heyday for crypto. Bitcoin, I believe, is going to go up as soon as people start seeing the dissociation of the dollar.

Right. And the reason why Bitcoin hasn't gone nuts right now is because the Treasury and the Department of Justice has been selling a lot of their confiscated Bitcoin. Otherwise, Bitcoin would be going way up right now. I thought they weren't. I thought that was a part of the reserve is like we're not going to sell any of the Bitcoin that we have. No, no. I'm talking about Department of Justice.

Department of Justice has been selling, okay? The stuff that's gone into the reserve is different. But again, that's another balancing act. So the Department of Justice is selling Bitcoin or have been selling Bitcoin that they confiscated from the Silk Road accounts and things like that, these big accounts. So that's what's been putting pressure on Bitcoin price, which has been fine because they don't want this to become too overt.

But now you have Bitcoin where people can have a flight to quality into. Because all the other currencies are also good. If there's a contagion, right? If the United States gets a cold, the rest of the world gets a flu, right? So you're going to have all the currencies crash. But now we've got an environment where Bitcoin is now recognized as a store of value, right? And even the treasury is buying into it, right? I remember I had lunch with Jamie Dimon in 2018 at Pelican Hill Resort in Newport Beach.

And Jamie Dimon told me, he's like, "Bitcoin's a fraud." It was about one year later that they announced that they just bought a mountain of Bitcoin at JPMorgan. What is the one rule of Wall Street? Buy low, sell high. You're about to buy something, you tell everyone it's a fraud so that everyone gets out of it, piles out of it so that you can pile into it. Wall Street is an inside job. And we all, I don't know why we listen to these people, but we do. So the truth is now, like everyone's changed their tune on Bitcoin, it's going to be a flight to safety and quality.

So I think what's happening is you're going to see that Trump is going to push for policies. Now, we can talk about the fairness. The reason why this was a brilliant move, I think, on Trump's part, you can agree with it or not agree with it, is because all the other countries that have trade imbalances with us have funky tariff policies against the United States. And he just said, look, we're just going to match that tariff. Whatever tariff you've applied to the U.S. goods and services, we're going to apply to you.

That's reciprocity. Why have we been giving a free ride? Why are we paying for the United Nations the most? Why are we paying for protection of the world the most? Why are we paying for Ukraine the most when it's in Europe? We can't even afford to pay for our own health care because we spend 17% of our GDP on defense. How can we afford to pay another 17% on health care when we have to pay for the defense of the rest of the world as the world's policemen? This is the challenge of being the hegemon

of the world society, of the world stage. It's called hegemonic stability when you have one superpower. It's always better to have kind of two superpowers. So what's happening now is Trump is in a way setting up China as the anti-superpower.

that's against the United States. And the way he's going to do it is by setting up and saying, look, you can't peg your currency anymore against the U.S. dollar, number one. And number two, you're not going to get the same treatment. You put tariffs on our products and services, we're going to put the same tariff on you. And you can make the argument to the rest of the world that your tariff is fair.

And if it's fair, then why is it, if it's good for the goose, why isn't it good for the gander? Do you think that there would be threat of this leading to some type of kinetic war between the United States and China? Or is that not even in the realm of possibility anytime soon or hopefully ever? I really don't think that Trump is going to get us into any war.

Yeah, I hope not. I mean, look, you can say what you wish about Trump, but and I was not a fan of Trump and I'm still not what I would call a fan of Trump. But I do understand him and I know enough about economics to understand what he's doing and how actually smart it is. So right now there's going to be a lot of consternation because people don't understand anything of what I just said to you. So they don't see how all these things are interconnected. And what's going to eventually happen is that I think China will buckle.

There'll be some sort of a trade negotiation. Trump's style of negotiation is he starts the negotiation by punching you in the face. He did that with Kim Jong-un, with North Korea. What did he say to Kim Jong-un? "Oh, you want to play with your rockets?

Is that your game? You want to play with your nuclear rockets? Okay, cool. We're just going to wipe you off the map. And I'm crazy enough to do it. And so Kim Jong Un thought, oh my gosh, we actually have a president who's crazier than I am. Do you think it would be a process of how long we can make our economy and people suffer before someone has to like bend the knee type scenario?

Like it'll be like a chicken type experience? I mean, look, today, what's the Dow Jones? The Dow Jones is at 40,000. It was at 27,000 or 25,000 or something before the pandemic, right? So...

I mean, how can we say that it's such a bad situation? Oh, no, no. I'm not saying right now. I'm saying, is that the direction it goes? Like, is it just do things, just keep on, and then suddenly jobs get lost and everybody tightens up and there's... Your spiritual thing might be coming to an end. The Dow surged 2,000 points this morning.

Yeah, but that's probably Denver. I mean, I have no idea. I trust your perspective on these things more than I have. But I've seen that enough times where I'm like, oh, cool, let's go. And then it's like a quadruple drop after that. I'm like, okay, cool, great. Things are never as good as they seem and they're never as bad as they seem either. Do I think that there's going to have to be a lot more suffering? No, I think that what's going to happen is there is going to be a transition away from this monetary policy, though.

And I think this is also, this is a multi-pronged, this battle is as much with the banking system and the Federal Reserve as it is with China and any other country in the world. This is Trump playing chicken. Isn't the U.S. dollar being the primary, is it the primary reserve currency, is it they call for? Primary reserve currency. For the world. Isn't that like one of our greatest points of leverage as far as global economics goes? No, the only, not really. Not really. Because...

Until someone can successfully articulate to me what the advantage of that is other than just ego, I don't agree with it. I could see a lot more advantages in having it not be the world currency and actually having it be a low-value currency that makes us more competitive overseas. A better trade. Yes. Interesting. And by the way, I'm not speaking from an... I know people don't know me in an economics perspective. They know me in a spiritual context, but I spent most of my life as, you know...

a forecaster of sorts in economics. That's what I spent most of my career doing. I was a finance major. So I don't, it's all math. It's all math and patterns. All math and patterns in particular. And so all of this, you could get so stuck into, oh, all these little details and everything, but I didn't know that, but I didn't know that. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. It doesn't matter.

When you finally just extend beyond it, I didn't even look at Wall Street this week because I don't even care. Yeah, I don't look that much. I just keep on dollar cost averaging and just like, okay, I'll just, you know, if for me, my perspective is like, this is a great time. If I expand out from looking at things historically, like extend my time horizon a little further,

I just reframe it to like, oh, this is great. Like it's just an opportunity for me to become more creative and tough for me to look at myself. And it's also an opportunity to actually just double down on that and just expand it out and say, cool. It's actually a very liberating thing for me. It's like every is, is anytime I'm feeling kind of like a little bit stressed, I actually just,

invest more. And I'm like, oh, cool. I feel like a little bit more empowered right now, which is good. It's like we all get in this kind of mode, right? Where we feel like we have to do something. And maybe sometimes the best thing to do is just to kind of sit on the sidelines a bit and sort of detach from it. Don't get too close to it. You know, that's how I felt when I was in the middle of it in 2008.

and through the different cyclic changes that we've seen through all of this through time. I think, look, at the end of the day, everything that's supposed to happen will happen. I believe everything is already predestined. What we call destiny is the free will of the higher self, and it's all happening exactly as it should. Even Apophis, even the fact that someone named it Apophis, all of this is going to bring some catalytic change for society. Because let's face it,

It's kind of an old script now, what we've been living. It feels like it's time to move on to the next paradigm, doesn't it? I don't know. Well, it seems like that's kind of what's happening in a lot of ways with like Musk and the Doge and like, well, that's a part of what they were talking about is like where the government is still run as though like the same as it was in the,

a long time ago. You know, now we're in this new age and we're actually just going through and kind of like catching things up. Well, yeah. I mean, look, the state of California, I mean, come on. During COVID, there was $31 billion of fraud. Yeah, it's wild. In the COVID payments. A lot of it went to China and Russia.

So it's $31 billion. Like, everyone's asleep at the switch. We need to start thinking, wait a minute, this is government of the people, by the people, and for the people, not of the government, for the government, and by the government. You know, it's like, go back to the founding fathers, what the original principles were. We've moved so far away from that. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. And that last part has just been thrown away. Deriving their just powers. Governments only have powers when they are just. And there's so much corruption right now. It is beyond, beyond, beyond.

And this is not because I'm saying, oh, I'm watching what's happening with Doge and all this corruption. And the people that don't want this exposed, why exactly don't we want it exposed? The age of Aquarius is the age of truth. Why exactly don't you want it exposed? Oh, because somehow, some way, you believe it might be benefiting you or your constituency somehow because you're corrupt and you just don't want to admit it? Yeah, the apoptotic cell doesn't want apoptosis. Yeah.

Well, and by the way, we call that ethical imperative, don't we? It's like whatever we realized was like the thing that we said, oh, we have to attack Iraq or we have to fight so-and-so or we have to do this or we have to save Ukraine or whatever it is. No, maybe if you just look behind it, you start realizing who actually was benefiting by this. Oh, what a coincidence. Oh, sure. Yeah. Like we're going to basically give all this money to Ukraine, but actually, you know,

The money is given in the form of goods and services as a loan to them. And we're really just filling the coffers of these defense contractors who are supporting hardcore the Democratic Party. Really? Yeah. Age of truth, baby. Well, age of truth. And this and I can give you just as many examples of the Republicans doing the same thing on their side.

So I'm not picking one side or the other. I'm just saying, I actually think what Trump is trying to do, because I don't even consider Trump a Republican, to be honest. I'm sure the Republican Party, I know many in the upper echelons of the Republican Party who didn't want Trump to be in power. Trust me. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like that he is here. Just like you asked Matias what Elon was. Elon is here as some sort of a catalyst also.

on humanity and so is Donald Trump. And the fact that they're working together is kind of freaky because it's like, whoa. And of course it's going to trigger the shit out of a lot of people. Yeah, it's happening. Last question, pre-planned question I actually used ChatGPT for that I thought was kind of an interesting concept. If you could leave one message encoded in time for future civilizations to find, what would that message be? If you were the great ancient

pyramid people leaving a message for people in 10 to 20,000 years from now, what would your message be? I would have built a pyramid because it'd be the only way they could stand the test of time. It has to be something super big that people are going to notice. I would have built them all around the world. I would have built them so that there is a connector between them so that the only way to decipher them would be to solve their mathematics of them to realize that they're all just musical notes playing the song of humanity.

and that through the process of decrypting these pyramids, we would actually ascend. And it would be a collective, slow ascension that would be tied with what humanity could take so that it wasn't all at once. That's exactly what I would do. You'd repeat the pyramids. I would repeat it exactly as they were and exactly as they are. Because it's a genius encryption that is spanning the entire world.

And it's awakening us as it goes along. And it's become the hot topic of public awareness, hasn't it? It's right at the top. Like you put the list of most interesting topics of discussion for almost anyone in society today. Pyramids are going to be somewhere in the top 10 list. Yeah, it's amazing. Thank you so much, man. I really enjoy these conversations. I appreciate you making time. I appreciate you investing yourself into these topics and the way that you have been able to bring the information here.

you have, what's the best place to point? There's the... You can go to robertedwardgrant.com. You can find me under the same name on Instagram. I just wrote a book called Philosopher. I have a series of books called Philomath, Polymath, and Philosopher that are on Amazon.

And then also my TV show on Gaia, which this year, the second season is epic. I mean, it's really all these topics we're talking about are right in the central thesis of the show. And I think you will really, really enjoy it. So check out season one, which was four years ago. And season two is out now. Amazing. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. Thank you all for tuning in. That's it. That's all. We'll see you next week.

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