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Ron Dermer on the U.S. Airstrikes as Iran Returns Fire

2025/6/23
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Ron Dermer: 特朗普总统自始至终都明确表示,他绝不允许伊朗拥有核武器。起初,他希望通过谈判解决问题,并致信伊朗,但他在谈判中始终坚持伊朗必须彻底拆除其核计划。他曾多次表示,如果伊朗不自行摧毁核设施,美国将采取行动。特朗普总统明确指出,伊朗不得拥有浓缩铀能力,因为这会为他们提供制造核武器所需的燃料。在外交途径失败后,特朗普总统决定采取行动,这对美国与伊朗的关系、中东局势以及全球局势都产生了重大影响。他决定只攻击核设施,包括两个浓缩铀设施和一个计划中的未来浓缩铀设施。以色列对伊朗的主要浓缩铀设施纳坦兹采取了行动,并在“崛起雄狮行动”的第一夜袭击了该设施。福尔多是伊朗的深层地下设施,也受到了袭击。伊朗在伊斯法罕建造了一个比福尔多更深的设施,用于储存浓缩材料,特别是大部分高浓缩铀。特朗普总统希望对伊朗核设施的打击是全面性的,因此除了福尔多,他还袭击了纳坦兹。以色列已摧毁纳坦兹约85%的设施,使其基本无法运作,而美国的介入使其彻底瘫痪。美国使用巡航导弹袭击了伊斯法罕的第三个设施,但并未完全摧毁该设施,而是使其暂时瘫痪。特朗普总统及其顾问决定对所有三个设施采取行动是正确的。以色列在针对伊朗军事核能力时,除了浓缩铀设施外,还袭击了离心机制造设施,并在“崛起雄狮行动”开始几分钟内,同时在不同地点除掉了伊朗“曼哈顿计划”的主要科学家。以色列还摧毁了伊斯法罕的转化设施,该设施对于将高浓缩铀转化为制造核武器核心所需的金属形态至关重要。以色列拥有一份目标清单,并在建立空中优势后,系统地针对与伊朗核计划相关的数十个地点进行打击。以色列的行动旨在消除伊朗的军事核能力,并使其核计划从头开始。

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President Trump's consistent stance against Iran acquiring nuclear weapons is discussed, along with his initial attempts at diplomatic resolutions and the eventual shift towards military action. The three targeted nuclear sites—Natanz, Fordow, and Isfahan—are introduced, highlighting their significance in Iran's nuclear program.
  • President Trump's consistent opposition to Iran obtaining nuclear weapons
  • Initial attempts at diplomatic resolution
  • Decision to launch airstrikes after diplomatic failure
  • Targeting of three nuclear sites: Natanz, Fordow, and Isfahan

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In response to a United States airstrike aimed to decimate their nuclear capabilities, Iran launched an attack on a U.S. airbase in Qatar. Could Donald Trump’s actions help eliminate the existential threats Israel hoped to extinguish with “Operation Rising Lion?” Paul Gigot speaks with Minister of Strategic Affairs of Israel Ron Dermer about the message the United States is sending its enemies and allies by assisting Israel and how much damage the airstrikes did to Iran’s nuclear program.

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