David Ignatius on 'Phantom Orbit' and the future of conflicts in the Middle East and Ukraine
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David Ignatius, the foreign affairs columnist for The Washington Post, talks about his new spy novel, “Phantom Orbit,” which explores space warfare, geopolitics and espionage, his recent interview with Ukrainian President Zelensky and why he believes we're "a long way from a two-state solution" between Israel and Palestine.

Conversation recorded on Tuesday, May 7, 2024.