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Vol.26 成都的“淋”到底惹谁了?

2024/11/9
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丹丹
大牛
李乐
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大牛:参与成都播客线下活动,临时决定将现场讨论的“成都的‘灵’到底惹谁了”话题制作成完整播客节目。节目讨论了同性恋关系中“1/0”角色认知的困惑,以及由此引发的社会刻板印象和权力关系问题。大牛分享了自己在网络交友中,将自己定义为“主动方”或“被动方”带来的不同回应,以及在亲密关系中,自己更倾向于“1”的角色,但在生活中更倾向于照顾他人。大牛认为“1/0”并非与男性和女性气质必然挂钩,也不一定是关系中的男性和女性角色,并对“攻灵”的受欢迎程度进行了分析,认为这可能源于反差萌。 李乐:在早期对“1/0”的概念模糊,没有意识到这是一个问题,而是自然而然地带入角色。在与初恋的交往中,李乐扮演“0”的角色,并享受这种关系。李乐曾不能接受“0”的角色,因为觉得这与男性身份不符,但现在已经能够接受。李乐不会看不起扮演“0”角色的男生,但他无法接受自己扮演“0”的角色。李乐认为“1/0”是一种圈子外对通讯录关系的粗浅划分,并不完全适用于同性恋关系。李乐分享了自己对“1/0”认知的变化过程,以及对权力关系的看法。 丹丹:节目讨论了同性恋关系中“1/0”角色认知的困惑,以及由此引发的社会刻板印象和权力关系问题。丹丹分享了自己对“1/0”认知的变化过程,从最初的模糊到后来的0.5,再到对不同角色的接受。丹丹认为对“0”角色的歧视普遍存在,这与对女性气质的歧视有关。丹丹分析了“攻灵”的受欢迎程度,以及对男性女性气质的刻板印象。丹丹认为,在亲密关系中,由于缺乏法律保障,人们不必遵循固定的角色模式,并对成都“灵”的刻板印象进行了分析。丹丹认为,在通讯录关系中,权力关系是一个经常被讨论的问题,有些人不想放弃在关系中的权力地位。 李乐:在早期网络交友平台上,用“主动方”和“被动方”来区分角色,而非现在的“1/0”。在网络交友中,将自己定义为“主动方”或“被动方”会带来不同的回应。李乐对“0”角色的接受程度随着时间推移而改变。李乐认为,在通讯录关系中,“1/0”的划分并不一定与权力关系直接相关,并且角色可以是流动的。 丹丹:圈外人普遍认为“1”是男性角色,“0”是女性角色,但这并不完全正确。“1/0”更多的是对异性恋男女关系的模仿,并不完全适用于同性恋关系。对“0”角色的歧视以及对男性女性气质的刻板印象,根深蒂固地存在于社会中。即使是男性,如果具有女性化气质,也会受到歧视。性别角色与性别特征的结合,并不一定导致群体嘲讽。丹丹认为,成都的“0”常常被外地人取笑,这是一种刻板印象。丹丹认为,在亲密关系中,由于缺乏法律保障,人们不必遵循固定的角色模式。丹丹认为,“1/0”并非与男性和女性气质必然挂钩,也不一定是关系中的男性和女性角色。

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Why did the hosts decide to record a full episode on the topic of 1/0 roles in male homosexual relationships?

The hosts participated in a podcast event in Chengdu where they discussed the topic of 1/0 roles in male homosexual relationships. They felt the discussion was incomplete and wanted to explore it further in a full episode.

What historical context is provided about the evolution of 1/0 roles in the LGBTQ+ community?

In the early days of the LGBTQ+ community in China, roles were described as 'active' and 'passive' rather than 1/0. The concept of 1/0 became more prominent with the rise of internet forums and dating websites, where individuals were often asked to identify as 1 or 0.

How do societal stereotypes influence the perception of 1/0 roles in homosexual relationships?

Societal stereotypes often equate the 1 role with masculinity and the 0 role with femininity, mirroring traditional heterosexual gender roles. This leads to discrimination against those who identify as 0, as they are often seen as less masculine or inferior.

Why is there a stigma associated with being a '0' in male homosexual relationships?

The stigma stems from societal norms that associate femininity with weakness and masculinity with strength. Being a '0' is often seen as adopting a 'feminine' role, which is devalued in patriarchal societies, leading to internalized shame and discrimination.

What is the significance of the term 'side' in the context of homosexual relationships?

The term 'side' refers to individuals who do not identify strictly as 1 or 0 and may not engage in penetrative sex. It represents a shift away from traditional roles, emphasizing emotional and mental compatibility over physical roles.

How has the perception of masculinity in homosexual relationships changed over time?

In the past, more effeminate or androgynous men were often idealized in homosexual relationships. However, in recent years, there has been a shift towards valuing more traditionally masculine traits, such as physical strength and ruggedness, influenced by global trends like superhero culture.

What role does societal conditioning play in the preferences for masculine or feminine traits in partners?

Societal conditioning heavily influences preferences, as individuals are often taught to value traits that align with traditional gender roles. This can lead to a preference for masculine traits in male partners, as they are associated with strength and dominance.

Why is there a fear or discomfort associated with men who exhibit traditionally feminine traits?

The fear or discomfort arises from cognitive dissonance, where individuals struggle to reconcile the contradiction between a man's physical appearance and his feminine traits. This can lead to feelings of unease or fear due to the disruption of societal norms.

What is the cultural significance of the 'Pà ěr duō' (耙耳朵) stereotype in Chengdu?

The 'Pà ěr duō' stereotype refers to men in Chengdu who are perceived as submissive or henpecked by their wives. This stereotype has historical roots and is often used humorously, but it also reflects broader societal attitudes towards gender roles and masculinity.

How do the hosts view the future of role dynamics in homosexual relationships?

The hosts believe that role dynamics in homosexual relationships should be fluid and not strictly defined by traditional 1/0 roles. They advocate for greater flexibility and openness, allowing individuals to explore different roles based on their preferences and the needs of their relationships.

Chapters
本期节目源于成都播客线下活动,三位主播在活动中讨论了通讯录关系中的1/0角色问题,因时间限制未尽兴,遂决定录制完整节目。
  • 成都播客线下活动
  • 通讯录关系中的1/0角色
  • 节目源于线下活动讨论未尽兴

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本期您将听到的内容:

三位主播在11.2-3参加了由成都本土文化厂牌028.C/播客**「鲸鱼赫兹」组织的2024成都播客堂会当中播客流水席的活动,共同讨论了一个本来第一期就应该讨论却一直不知道为啥没有讨论的问题——男通讯录关系当中1/0角色的问题。因为流水席散场之后,三位主播都觉得没聊尽兴,所以打算把流水席聊的内容做成一期完整的播客节目,本来是计划简单录一期作为番外,没想到一聊就真的聊成了一期full-size(此处双关)**。

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主播:大牛 ,李乐,丹丹

时间轴

00:31 三位主播为什么要录这么一期播客

04:00 “你是小依还是小琳?“三个主播的自我认知居然大不同

16:39 为什么承认自己是小琳这么难!?

23:20 几种组合,风评如此不一样?

28:17 三位主播能不能接受“有女性气质”的男生?

34:15 txl的关系就是男女关系?

42:40 C'est trop dûr d'être xiaolin

51:55 为什么说成都的小琳有双重“buff”

55:37 为啥之前我们喜欢清秀美少年,而现在却喜欢壮硕糙大汉?

67:16 三位主播里面谁是side?以及side是个啥?

72:07 好物推荐 传说中的“耙耳朵”自行车

好物推荐:

丹丹:美食-芙蓉凰 大牛:歌曲-张雨生-《我是一棵秋天的树》(专辑:《大海》) 李乐:美食-老菜谱