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Vol.173 就这么考了10年,我35了 | 串台身边人

2024/12/9
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思维: 本科毕业后十年持续参加公务员考试,包括国考和上海市考,最终因年龄限制而未能上岸。考试经历中,作者发现充分准备对考试结果影响不大,更重要的是基础能力和应变能力。作者的专业'编辑出版'在考试系统中难以归类,也增加了考试难度。作者认为自己适合体制内工作,喜欢帮助他人解决问题,但对体制内的工作环境和人情世故感到不适应。 十年考公的经历,让作者对体制内外的优劣势有了更深刻的认识。作者认为体制内工作稳定,有保障,但缺乏灵活性,一眼望到头;体制外工作灵活,充满机会,但缺乏稳定性,竞争激烈。 作者将公务员考试视为每年测试自身能力的游戏,也以此解锁上海不同考点地区。作者认为自己有服务人民的热情,但体制内的工作方式和话语体系与自身习惯存在差异。 柚子: 96年出生,研究生毕业三年多,在体制外工作,对考公务员没有执念,性格也不适合体制内一眼望到头的工作。作者认为体制内工作可能成就感较低,但体制外工作也不稳定。作者的大学班级中约一半同学考公务员,文科生考公匹配度更高。作者认为现在体制内外工作都不容易,但仍保持乐观,相信会有新的机会。作者目前没有考虑考公务员,喜欢市场经济的灵活性和不确定性。 作者认为体制内工作需要处理很多为人处事方面的工作,可能对于个人的成就感来讲会差一点。体制外工作虽然不稳定,但可以避免一眼望到头的生活。作者身边也有不少朋友在体制内工作,并对考公的竞争激烈程度表示担忧。 凡凡: 作为播客主播,与两位嘉宾就十年考公经历以及体制内外工作的比较进行了深入探讨。在节目中,凡凡引导嘉宾分享了各自的经历和观点,并就公务员考试的技巧、体制内外工作的优劣势、以及养老金制度改革等问题进行了详细的分析和解读。 凡凡总结了公务员考试的小技巧,包括考前浏览相关网站资料了解热点,政策性题目直接背诵正确答案等。凡凡还分析了体制内外的收入差异,以及50岁以后体制内总收入可能超过体制外的现象。此外,凡凡还就体制内外听众对体制的误解和对立声音进行了回应,并呼吁相互理解和尊重。

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Why did Siwei persist in taking the civil service exam for 10 years despite not passing?

Siwei viewed the civil service exam as a way to test his abilities annually, treating it almost like a game. He enjoyed the challenge and the opportunity to evaluate his skills objectively. Additionally, he has a strong desire to serve the public, which aligns with the ethos of civil service. Despite not passing, he found satisfaction in the process and the chance to contribute to society.

What are the key challenges faced by those taking the civil service exam in Shanghai?

The civil service exam in Shanghai is highly competitive, with some positions having a ratio of 40-50 applicants per spot. The exam tests foundational knowledge and adaptability, requiring candidates to have a strong grasp of current affairs, policy understanding, and problem-solving skills. Additionally, the exam environment can be physically demanding, with cold classrooms during winter exams, which deters some candidates from completing the test.

What is the trend in the number of applicants for the national civil service exam in recent years?

The number of applicants for the national civil service exam has been steadily increasing. In 2020, there were 1.27 million applicants, which rose to 1.51 million in 2021, 2.12 million in 2022, 2.6 million in 2023, and 3.03 million in 2024. This upward trend reflects the growing interest in civil service positions, likely due to the perceived stability and benefits of such roles.

What are the differences in salary and benefits between working in the public sector versus the private sector?

Public sector jobs, particularly in civil service, often offer lower initial salaries compared to the private sector. However, they provide long-term stability, higher pension replacement rates, and additional benefits like housing subsidies and healthcare. In contrast, private sector jobs may offer higher initial salaries but lack the same level of job security and retirement benefits. Over time, especially after age 50, the total lifetime income in the public sector tends to surpass that of the private sector.

What are the requirements for older candidates (over 35) to take the civil service exam?

For candidates over 35, some positions have extended the age limit to 40, but these roles typically require advanced degrees (e.g., a master's) or specialized skills. Additionally, these positions often demand significant professional experience, as they are designed to leverage the candidate's expertise to contribute to the public sector. However, the majority of positions still adhere to the 35-year age limit, making it challenging for older candidates to qualify.

What is the impact of the pension reform on civil servants?

The pension reform, which began in 2014 and is now fully implemented, aligns the pension system for civil servants with that of the private sector. Previously, civil servants had higher pension replacement rates (up to 90-95%), but under the new system, the replacement rate for newer employees is around 60-70%. While this reduces the disparity between public and private sector pensions, civil servants still benefit from additional perks like housing subsidies and healthcare, making public sector jobs attractive in the long term.

What are the key skills required to succeed in the civil service exam?

Success in the civil service exam requires a strong foundation in general knowledge, current affairs, and policy understanding. Candidates must also possess problem-solving skills, logical reasoning, and the ability to adapt to different types of questions. Additionally, effective time management during the exam is crucial, as candidates often need to prioritize easier questions and return to more challenging ones later. A good command of language and writing skills is also essential, especially for essay-based sections.

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本期节目邀请到《2024播客白皮书》和《播客时代》作者思维老师,分享他十年考公的经历和感悟。同时,我们还邀请到职场播客《身边人》的主播柚子,分享她对体制内外工作的看法。
  • 思维老师十年考公,最终未上岸,年龄已至35岁。
  • 他每年参加一次公务员考试,包括国考和市考。
  • 他最接近上岸的一次是上海市委宣传部的一个岗位,总分第二,仅差0.1分。

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上个月,我在上海的CPA中文播客文化节上,认识了思维老师——《2024播客白皮书》作者,《播客时代》作者,然后他听说我的播客叫《体制内》,就开心地跟我分享——他考了10年了。同样在CPA播客节上,认识了友台《身边人》,他们也派出了山东选手柚子,来跟我们串台一块儿采访思维。 说实话我是好奇的,一是好奇思维考公的原因,二是能看出来他对于进体制有清晰的目标,但也有对自己不适应的担心,好奇如果他真的考上了,他会去吗? 本期特别感谢:《身边人》柚子的辛苦剪辑,大家记得去订阅这个职场干货节目哦~ 小助理微信:fanghao3110 商务合作:[email protected] 小助理加不上也可以直接扫码进群,二维码过期去最新的一期会有新鲜的