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sort of kind of putting everything together from the combine through some of the conversations that were heading, had in Florida this week, but feel like a good, a good, got a good grasp on where the roster is right now. What a big Dave in the background, just rocking on a Friday. You know, the office is a little bit light on Friday, but you know, we got the, we got the legends in here. We got the stars. I, I saw big Dave in the alley downstairs. I offered him a coffee. It's like, no, no, no. I'm,

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Well, first of all, if we're talking about competition, I would like to just throw the gauntlet down that in yesterday's competition of finding out that Case Keenum was going to be a part of the Bears, there was one winner and there was one loser. And the winner, of course, out here for you, CHGO Bears fans, is me.

As you see my amazing tweet, if you're watching on YouTube or if you're not watching on YouTube, it's up here. If I were a Bears fan wondering what's going to happen in the QB room, I'd keep a close eye on Case Keenum. That was at 533 p.m. yesterday.

540 p.m. seven minutes later and eternity in NFL breaking news. Adam Schefter, veteran quarterback case. Keenum is signing a one year deal worth up to three million with the Bears. Keenum now will help mentor Caleb Williams like he did for C.J. Stroud in Houston. OK, a couple of things. One, that's seven, which, you know, Brady, Conrad.

You just went full Monica and friends right there. Yeah. Which is a good way to celebrate actually, you know, scooping Adam Schefter by seven minutes. I mean, just, you know, I, for all my, the people that have just believed in me forever, the Pizzatolas of the world, there it is seven minutes. One of my greatest accomplishments in the history of newsbreaking. I've gotten, you know, I got Jim Harbaugh wrong. Shouldn't bring that up right now, but I just did. Uh,

I got Todd Haley right back in the day that he was going to be OC in Pittsburgh. And this was a, this was a good win yesterday, but I'm going away from me to the actual case Keenum situation. Let me ask you a question. Oh, do you, do you think that Ryan polls called up a Tyson Bajan and told him that they were signing case Keenum? If you had to guess. Yes, because I'm going to go to the conversation that Adam Johns and I had with Ryan polls on. What was that Tuesday now? I think it was, um,

in some of those comments I put in my newsletter this morning to just on the quarterback room. But yeah, I mean, he made it very clear that Ben Johnson and himself, Ryan Bowles,

And they did not rush into this decision. They had a very deep, long discussion about what's best for that quarterback room. JT Barrett's role in it. He's a former player, too. He's was considered an amazing leader when he was playing, even though he didn't play a ton in the NFL. And so.

the quarterback room dynamics, as polls told us on Hogan Johns, you can mess it up very easily too, if you get the wrong guy. So they said they were going to be very, very particular. And I followed up and basically said, so that means you got to sign somebody that's embracing that role. And that role is in this spot, Carm, to essentially be a,

an extension of the coaching staff in that quarterback room. Paul specifically mentioned the idea that

Okay, so JT Barrett, he might be able to bring that experience to that room too as a former player who's still a young coach. But you got a game plan. You got your coaches meetings. You don't spend as much time in the quarterback room as the actual quarterbacks do. So by having a veteran QB in there in Case Keenum now, who can kind of be that extension of the coaching staff, that's just...

you know sort of insulating and creating an extra layer of knowledge and expertise around caleb williams that quite frankly they lacked in that room last year but getting back to your original question

It's also, even if it's not necessarily intentional competition for Tyson Bajan, it still is competition for Tyson Bajan because he's Kim's been a backup in this league for a long time. He's won games when he's gone out there as a backup. And he even had success when he was asked to be a starter, you know, in Minnesota. So I think,

I think this is definitely something that was handled very delicately that was communicated amongst everyone. And I also thought it was really notable too, that polls straight up said, if you're going to knowing the competitor competitor that Tyson Bajan is, if you're going to doubt him in any type of competition, you're probably going to be wrong. You must, you must've loved that quote. I,

I did. It was one of my favorite. I think it was my favorite moment of the Ryan Paul's Hogan Johns interview. I absolutely loved that. And, you know, I would think that, sure, maybe there will be some level of competition because there should be competition. This is the NFL. This is not House League. Yeah.

between the two quarterbacks at two and three. But I also think that Tyson Bajan is going to win that competition in a landslide. And Case's role will be to be a mentor for Caleb. And I think, to me, it's an all-in move on getting the quarterback

to the next level, which is in line with everything else they've done this year from JT Barrett to Ben Johnson to Declan Doyle to the entire operation. So, and then we'll see, of course, what they do in the draft. Obviously free agency has been very, very, very active in making things easier for Caleb. So this falls in the same line and, uh,

If Case Keenum sees the field next year ahead of Tyson Bajan, we're going to have a riot on this show. But I don't think that's going to happen. No, and I don't think that's really the outcome you want to have. Like, I think the way you're setting this up, if that's happened, then you've either had an injury somewhere or you've...

or Tyson Bajan is taking a pretty sizable step backwards, which I don't think anybody expects to happen. I think the way this is set up, the way you ideally want to play out, I mean, there's obviously no question Caleb Williams is your starter. Tyson Bajan is a young, promising, valuable backup. There's not too many backups around the league that are seemingly ascending with some value that are still developing, but are also...

you know, a good enough teammates understanding their role and competitive as hell to consistently push that starter at the same time. Cause I think there's a standard there that Bay agent sort of already reached for more of the mental maturity standpoints.

at the quarterback position that Caleb can still rise to, if that makes sense. And then you have your third guy in case Keenum that can kind of fill in that rest of that picture that they're lacking because the other quarterbacks in that room are so young. So here's, here's an interesting scenario that I hope does not play out. But last year when you had bad offensive days, like the Seattle game late in the year and they're not scoring, you know,

And that was a close game. But even in a blowout game where the game's over, they never took Caleb out in the fourth quarter, right?

put Bajan in there. Hey, it's not your day. Let's just let's and let Bajan throw the football. I will be interested. I hope obviously again, hope this doesn't happen. But if the Bears offense is scuffling along, will they run out the game with Caleb? And if they ever put Bajan in like they did last year, they'll have them handed off three times or would they at some point in a game like that allow some

17 to play in an, in a bad case scenario to see what he can do. That will be to me. That's an interesting, they, they passed on it last year. I hope that doesn't happen this year, but if it does and they are scuffling, I wonder what the temperature will be to see what the other guy could do. Well, that's all great in your Bay agent world to think about hypothetically, but I don't think anybody needs to worry about that. And here's why.

I'm putting that out there as a hypothetical on April the 4th. Save the tape, Steven. You too, Hogue. Go ahead. Okay. But here's why you don't need to worry about this. Okay. No, no player in the NFL has had a better offseason than Caleb Williams.

Go out and get the best offensive-minded head coach available. Check. Go get him a center. Check. All-pro left guard. Check. All-pro right guard. Check. Fill out the quarterback room with Case Keenum, a guy who was with C.J. Stroud, helping him develop in Houston. Check. Good coaching staff all around. Seemingly there. Check. Check.

Weapons mostly already there. Check. Maybe the last piece to this puzzle would be another option at left tackle to compete. I don't know the running back dynamic running back that you potentially get in the draft and,

Has anybody had a better offseason than Caleb William? I don't think so. Well, I completely agree. And the guy that I would say has had as good of an offseason, of course, is also the guy that's behind him because hopefully he'll benefit from all that stuff too. It's a very good offseason for 17. But here, to your point though, Hogue, the left tackle thing,

derail all of it. If Braxton doesn't get healthy and Quran still sucks, you can't do this without a left tackle. So it's, it is a major part of that whole equation. That is, I think that should keep Ryan pulls up at night. Just wondering exactly how that's going to play out. I know he likes Braxton. I do too. And I like Quran too, but very unproven and very injured. So that whole part of this thing is so,

it's a little nerve-wracking when you when you look at everything else that they've done well but i think that that's not to just keep bringing this back to the hogan johns interview but i did think that that was another interesting part of that conversation because you know

these guys do tell you how much they still like Braxton Jones. And even Ben Johnson the other day was like, I loved Krona. I'm a guy. She coming out last year. Like they're saying nice things about all this. Well, when push comes to shove, when you really lay it out there, that's all great. But one of those guys is extremely injured right now. And the other one still has a lot of development left to do. And this is a very important piece of the puzzle. I mean, I did think it was notable that Ryan polls was like, yeah, that's,

That's why we're seriously considering adding the left tackle spot. And that's why I think my guess right now is that it will Campbell. So there are 10. I think the bears would, I think the bears would do that. Okay. So let's just have, let's advance that one step further. Will Campbell's there.

Ashton Gentry's there. Tyler Warren's there. An edge that they like is there, whatever. And they like Mason Graham too. He's there. You think Campbell, I'm not, obviously that's unlikely that all that will be there. But if in that scenario, do you still think we'll Campbell's the pick? I don't mean to cop out on the question, but I think the way that they would handle it,

If you're asking me what I would do, I would probably draft Will Campbell, but that my board is not going to be what their board looks like. My that would they what I still think that they would do is, you know what? Let's table this for two seconds, because this was actually one of my top takeaways of the week, too, which we're going to talk about here in this in this next segment. New new new new pivot. It's called tabled for two table for two on CHO Bears.

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Another way of thinking that is like your blue chip top of the board. These are your Travis Hunter players right in the draft this year. And then when we hear about all this depth that exists, I think it's important to realize, though, that I feel like there's a lot of second or I like to call the second round a place where you can get a lot of just good starters. A lot of players were ready to play early, not necessarily developmental guys, but they're not the blue players. And I feel like.

The second round talent this year goes from what polls described it as somewhere in the single digits all the way to 50, 60, 70. So that puts the Bears in a very interesting spot at 10. I'm just going to throw out a hypothetical number. I have no idea what the Bears board looks like. Obviously, it's not finalized. But let's say, Carm, they have seven blue players right now on their board. Then they got to be ready for scenarios in which...

One of those guys hopefully falls at 10 and is still available. That's usually more likely when more quarterbacks push up the board early. And I'm not sure that's this year or they got to be ready for scenarios where they're all gone.

And you might want to trade back, except now you have that same problem and that everybody's looking at this town pool the same way. They're not necessarily excited to move up because they seem the same value in the 20s as you do at number 10. That can leave you stuck. And that might be how this plays out for the Bears. But where I'm going with this, Carm, to get back to what your original question was, if they view Ashton Gentry or Tyler Warren as a blue player,

which I think is a, would be a defensible way to view those players at their positions, but they don't necessarily view will Campbell as a blue player. And again, I don't know if that's the case or not. I'm just trying to create a hypothetical. Do I think they're going to take the left tackle at that spot?

Or the last blue player still available on their board? I think they take the blue player. Don't you? You take the best player available. If that's really, would you just spent a whole year scouting out to spit out your board the way you did it? Trust it. Take that player.

Yeah, I think they will. And they've been talking a whole lot lately about best player available, how what they've done in free agency or it's allowed them to now sit here and do BPA, the old best player available, which is the way to build a football team or any team for that matter. You want supremely talented players on your roster. The thing is, though, I mean, they might look at Will Campbell as the best player available. They might love him to that level. They might think he's an elite left tackle. And that could be, you know, in their mind.

Even more valuable than the running back. Although I think elite, even in today's, you know, we outlined it deeply about how much running the football in today's NFL right now matters as far as winning games, teams that were, you know, the six teams in the top 10 in rushing last year, made the playoffs last year, the Vikings Packers included. So it is a big part of what's going on right now. And this is a copycat league. So, uh,

that's why if Gentry's there and they love them to the level that a lot of people love them, I would think that that would be the pick because you do have a need right there. And Ben Johnson has said things like, you know, we're not drafting a running back. We're drafting a weapon. That dude's a weapon.

But I don't know. I, you know, who knows how they look at this? If they, if they pick will Campbell at 10, that's because they think he's a prime time starter. I would think at left tackle, it's not somebody that they can just, well, if it doesn't work out here with Braxton, we're going to slide him in and that's all cool and whatnot. I think it's more of a, they think he's a big time talent. Speaker 0 : Yeah. I think, I think probably most around the league are now looking at our looking at will Campbell as an exception to the arm length rule.

But I also think that anybody drafting him is also going to understand that there are going to be moments. Man, I'm forgetting. While you think about that, let me give you a side note on polls. Just let me touch that thought. Because I'm like Khalil Mack in 2018 made a lot of very good left tackles look silly.

Because he was able to use, you know, his insane combination, but especially that long arm move he had to create leverage. So my point is that Will Campbell is, is I think going to be a good left tackle, but is he going to be perfect all the time? No, I think there are going to be times where that arm length becomes an issue, but I don't know that it's enough for you to just pass on the guy. Like, I think you take them,

You accept what he is. You have a lot of success with him and you bring him help when you need to sometimes. Yeah. Look, I just moved. I moved back to, I have no idea. I don't have a good feel what the bears are going to do at all.

Could very well be Will Campbell. Maybe they're not worried about the arm length. Could very well be the running back. Could very well be the tight end. Tyler Warren flying up boards. And some people think that both Warren and Jetty are going to be gone going six and seven, which wouldn't be great. Maybe those are their two top guys and they don't love Will Campbell. And Shador Sanders drops to 10 and pulls an opportunity to trade back a couple of spots. And then you can add on another pick.

to all the depth that he's talking about there's i mean it's you know he's mentioned trading back i don't i just don't have a great sense of what's going to happen here i wish i did um i i well i guess and that's one of one of my takeaways from the week and maybe i'm giving maybe i'm guilty of putting too much credence and um you know things that were i said this earlier in the week when i was in florida like i thought i thought ben johnson did a really good job of talking about tyler warren and

Ash and Gentee and all these positions like, yeah, they're all good. So really we're not giving any secrets away by talking about all of them. But I also think that, look, we know they're considering all of them. I think they're all realistic possibilities. I don't think any of these guys, Will Campbell, Ash and Gentee or Tyler Warren, these guys that we end up talking about sort of endlessly are just off the board and we're wasting our time talking about it. I think the bears are in a very, very,

interesting spot at 10 that this could go in a number of different ways. And it makes it makes our jobs harder this year and trying to like predict how it actually will play out. So, I mean, that's, that's really one of my big takeaways from the week. Great takeaway. Sorry. Sorry. I thought my mic was having some level of dysfunction here that I didn't understand, but we're good. All right. I'll get to some more. I got more. Don't worry. I just, I,

If you ask Ryan polls right now, like I thought it was interesting in the interview to what you're talking about right now. He's got no, he underlined. I have no idea how this board is going to go. I have, you know, I have no idea how one through 10 is going to go. So a lot of like polls, I think when you look at what he was saying last year, he, they, they, they,

We're very much dialed in. We're going to draft Torrey in the fourth. And when we get into the fifth, they were pretty much they believed that Booker was going to be there. They thought they could they thought they could make a trade to do it. And that's exactly what happened. It played out the way he thought it would. So he's he seems to have a guy. He seems to go into this with a pretty methodical plan of how he wants to do things.

Last year, it seemed like they thought they were going to get Braylon Trice at 75. He went one pick in front to Atlanta at 74, and then it almost like they had to throw a dart on Amagaju they obviously liked, but it was seemed like it felt like that was a go. That was not what he was expecting to have happen in that moment.

But it happened. And now you're kind of left with this developmental tackle that has really you wonder if he's ever going to get on the field with the Bears because of the position that they're in. But other than that, it's like he's he's pretty he's a planner. This Ryan Poles is that I guess all GM's are. But there's I think there's a way in which he really hones in on what he wants to do way ahead of the game.

Yeah, I agree. I think that's also sort of easier to do in the later rounds when you, you, your board might be down to like literally five players that you're totally in love with and you might be in the fourth round. So you might, and you're dealing with draft capital. That's just not as expensive. So you can be willing to be like, well, let's do everything we can right here to get one of these five players. You know, I think that's a little different when we're talking about,

you know, some of the top talent at the top of the draft, but that's where we started this whole conversation though, at the beginning of the segment segment, where if I had to guess right now, I think the amount of blue players that they believe are out there is fewer than 10. So, and if it's eight, okay. And there doesn't include the quarterbacks. Well, okay. Then you need two quarterbacks to go. And if it's seven, then,

Well, nice. Now you're hoping that somebody is in love with Jackson dart does something crazy, which is always, which is always possible. If it's six. Now you're like, Oh man, you might be really in trouble in terms of getting one of those guys. And,

And I don't. And so then I guess that's when you start having conversations about possibly training up. If you really want one of those guys, I'll play the Braggs role here. Jackson darts. Incredible. You need to come up and get them. Jackson darts. Amazing. Rank loves him too. By the way, Adam rank coming up in a couple of minutes here. I can see him in the waiting room. I'm getting very, it's hard to stay focused with rank in the, in the waiting room here, but darts amazing. You got to come up to 10 and get them or nine or wherever, or just draft them period. That guy is going to be the next Bo Nix.

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Always looking sunny and bright, ready to go from California. What's going on, Adam? What's happening? Yeah, you know what? I use the natural lighting here in the studio, much like Wrigley Field before 1988. We play under the sunlight here in sunny Southern California.

Rake, what do you think about Carm beating Schefter to the Case Keenum news yesterday by seven minutes? Can you tell Schefter that I'm on him, that I'm coming for him? I love that. I loved every moment of that. I feel like that's one where our team wins. You know, it's like, hey, we're sort of the Washington Generals.

To his Harlem Globetrotters. I don't know, Carm, do you have agents feeding you stuff or are you just a man with his finger on the pulse? I cannot reveal the level of which I attain certain information. But, I mean, listen, all the agents want to talk to me. All the coaches want to talk to me. Players want to talk to me. I mean, my phone is nonstop. How often it's ringing here. I don't even know how I do this job, honestly, to focus for an hour with you guys is...

I'm amazed by myself. I'm just that incredible. Did Adam give you the, uh, Karm has it first or no? Was there a little love there or no? No, no.

We've seen this so much with these guys. Now, every time Garofalo or somebody, even Tom does this, like, oh, Jared Jabransky of Athletes First. You're like, why are we... We're crediting the agents now, so we got to give the agents a pub. It's very selective when you have these guys, whether it's Shepter or whomever, even if it's Ian. Who

who they will acknowledge had it first. And if it's Carm, if it's hot dog, Bob or whomever, you have to have, you have to be in like some sort of elite club before they will acknowledge that you were, that they were beaten. They don't want to do it. They don't want to sit there and they don't want to acknowledge it. It's like a comic, like some famous comics who steal bits and,

and they get called out on it like oh i've never heard that before like okay don't be that guy couldn't throw karma a little love yeah right jeff pass it would have given me love there that guy's great at the hat tip chef d you know i mean just you know come on passable what he's saying here is

I'm not telling you, you got to get out of the hot dog, Bob bucket. You, you gotta, you gotta get, you gotta get you. We got to elevate your status. Yeah. But you know what I mean? I, I, I appreciate riding with hot dog, Bob. I'm not looking to leave hot dog, Bob. That's my guy. You know, hot dog, you know, hot dog, Bob, he's at the United center tonight. Hold on. Hot dog. Bob is like a legitimate account. I don't know. He broke. He's usually breaking angels news.

And instead, one time he broke the gym. I got in trouble last year because I retweeted. Whenever Harbaugh was hired, he was the one who broke it. And I retweeted him. And they're like, what are you doing? And I'm like, hot dog Bob says that Jim Harbaugh is going to the Chargers.

And they're like, you can't like you got to wait. I'm like, I don't have to do anything. You don't pay for my blue checkmark. I pay for it. So I'll do as I please and go about it that way. But yeah, no love for Carmen. I'm upset about it. We can get back on track here. But just speaking of hot dog, Bob, and I don't know, I'm taking a risk here. I think this might work. Yeah, it's not. Well, no, it does. Look.

Look at what hot dog Bob's saying right now. I assume you're live right now. Tell Greg I'm buying the visitor dugout. If he needs a beer, that's what hot dog Bob does. You think I want to be chef for us to do that hot dog, Bob, right there. Hey Bragg's behind the, I texted, I sent him the tweet. There's a beer waiting for you. That's it. That's what, that's what we do over here. Get yourself a Sam Adams, American beer right there from hot dog, Bob, or the one of the two Vucci, Vucci, Vucci.

Shout out to the Yoki that you referenced in that other text, too. Got me hungry here. He was screaming at me because we didn't we didn't do the mayor of Arlington Heights his name right the other day. That was a bad job by us. Wait, you got it wrong, too. You we we started wrong. I think.

Yeah, I think that's right. You still don't know. No, I don't. You're not confident with what you're saying. He's coming on the show. We're going to get the mayor on the show. The mayor of Arlington Heights is coming on the show. The new mayor. The new mayor. The new mayor. The new mayor rank. This is big. Is he Italian, did you say? Yes, he is. Okay, then this deal's done. We're good. Yeah.

Exactly. It is. Very much. Carr promised the Chicago mayor a long time ago, and we're still waiting on that. Yeah, that hasn't happened. No one has tried harder, but...

I don't blame you on that one, though. I don't even think Schefter would have gotten them, so you don't have to feel too bad about that. All right. Rank, we're going to have our, he's going to have his list here, his Friday list, which we might have a new name for. Ranks a lot. Ranks a lot.

Yeah, I don't know. Let's pause that for a second, though, before we get into the ranks a lot this week, if that's what we're rolling with. I'm not sure if we are. I love it. There's been so many different variations on my name. And by the way, I feel like it's important to once again reiterate my given name. My birth certificate name is Ranked.

People ask from time to time, they're like, is this a stage name? And I go, yeah, it would be too on the nose to be a stage name. What's your name? Adam Fantasy Football. Like, nah, it's too on the nose. It is a legitimate Irish. Actually, no, Scottish Bear pointed out it's a Scottish name.

A lot of things, a lot of things are unfolding here. Like I knew we had Scottish lineage, but it's like, it's a Scottish name. I found out I was from Hoffman Estates, not from Schaumburg. Like a lot of things are blowing my mind now. So why not pile on here?

That's what, when you start coming on this show, we start to go in and the family lineage and we expose secrets that people don't even want to know about. We go deep here. That's what we do here on CHL. Hey, okay. Before we get to this week's rankings, I know you're sitting there kind of listening to some of the show before you jumped on. Did you have any reaction to not just things we were talking about, but anything that you thought came out of the owner's meetings this week that you thought was especially interesting? Well,

- Well, I wanted to go back to when you were talking about Will Campbell, and I think Mason Graham's gonna run into this as well.

Two things that could end up benefiting the Bears is we, as a society, we get away from watching people play football and being like, hey, this guy's excellent. And instead, go to the underwear Olympics and determine, like, not this guy's 40 times too slow. His arm's not quite long enough. I don't like his hand size or things like that. Instead of judging it about the thing that they're about to do,

they go out there. Like if you sat here and you didn't see me swing a golf ball, but you're like, you know what? I like the hat that he's wearing. So he must be good. Like things that don't matter sometimes play into this. And I think it's going to end up benefiting the bears. I remember years ago when Cooper cup was coming out of Eastern Washington and he was fantastic, had all these numbers,

When played in the Senior Bowl and the whole workout, we've obviously broadcast this on NFL Network. You're like, Cooper Cup's amazing. This guy should go in the first round. Goes to the combine. He's 40 times a tick slow. So he falls in the third round. Goes on to play for the Rams. Super Bowl MVP. Great player. And I think with Will Campbell and Mason Graham both,

They're going to benefit. We're going to, we could possibly benefit from either one of those guys falling to us. And I I'm actually starting to put together my mock draft and I'm like, you know what? There's enough weird things that could go on in this draft that,

that would allow one or maybe both of those guys to fall to us. I really do believe I'm starting to come around to the fact that Ashton Gentry and Tyler Warren will both be gone, which will end up making sure that somebody like Will Campbell or Mason Graham falls. And I think at that point you just pounce on them. I don't care what the arm length is. I don't care what their favorite meal is at Portillo's. I know that they're good football players and that's good enough for me.

That's why one of the, one of my favorite comments that was made this week was when I was talking to Ben Johnson and the interview I would see a show earlier in the week. And he said like the way he does it is he watches the tape. Okay. And then if he sees an issue in the tape, then he'll go to the numbers to see if the numbers either, you know, confirm or, or perhaps push against that concern that he's seen. But at the end of the day, if the tapes,

mostly flawless no tapes flawless but you know what i'm getting at yes then not going to be too concerned about what the number at the underwear olympics shout out to fitz who always calls it that too pat fitzgerald um that i that's how you should do this i feel very strongly about that no i agree and i i like that approach and i think that it's i think

Anybody who's strictly analytics and somebody who's strictly just – everything is available to you. You might as well make the most of it, but it's how you use it. And when Ben was explaining it the way that he did, I think that it makes the most sense. And I think that's a healthy approach, and I think it's going to end up allowing us to hit on a lot more picks moving forward. Yeah.

Let me just pin you down here, Adam rank. If I, if I may in a, in a, in a, you know, high school wrestling, freshman B converse, Rob Ginsburg battle to the death here. Actually, this is not a battle at all. This is a easy one. If, if everybody that we've named is available at 10, who are you taking?

including like Ashton Gentry and Tyler Warren and everybody. The player I feel like would benefit us the most. I think Tyler Warren would end up benefiting us the most. And it's kind of like in a fantasy football sense,

of drafting a position where the gap between Tyler Warren, and I know Loveland's good too, but the gap between those guys and the next tight end is greater than the gap between Loveland

Ashton Gentry and the next great running back, Will Campbell and the next tackle. And I think the scarcity would have me going with Tyler Warren. I would not want to pass him up. I said this last year when I did my mock draft with a twist, which is not, it's not a predictive piece. This is what you guys got to get out of. Don't do predictive pieces. Do this is what this team should do.

When I do mine, it's always on that guys. Now, I think that Jacksonville would be a great spot for Tyler Warren. And if I was advising the Jags, I'd be like, this is who you need. Evan Ingram's gone. Go get this tight end. But if he were available to the Bears, that would be my strongest recommendation. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, it's something about this draft class this year that has me like just almost on a daily basis thinking,

sort of flip-flopping between all these guys. And really, at the end of the day, the Bears are going to be at the mercy of how those first nine picks go. And I think this is a little bit more unpredictable than usual when it comes to that. And it's just they're going to have to prepare for a lot of different scenarios. I'll give you another hypothetical slash – it's not even hypothetical –

Right now, if the Bears hadn't beaten the Packers last week of the season, they'd be drafting seven and not 10. Would you give up that win to be picking seven with everything here? Absolutely not. There's not a chance. I would move down to 15 to beat the Packers. Come on! In the way that they did.

You know, this is the one thing about Caleb Williams. And I was on Fox Sports this week and I said, Caleb Williams is the best quarterback in this division. And I'm going to tell you something right now. Caleb Williams does not get credit for the rally against the Packers the first time, the rally against the Vikings, the rally against the Lions. Hell, the rally against the commanders like that, like he should have beaten Jaden Daniels head to head.

And if, and if can't, so if you look at it and Caleb has five, five comeback wins, he runs away with the rookie of the year. I think for his mental fortitude and for the vibes of the off season, we needed that victory more than we needed the number seven overall selection. And so I will never give up that, that win. I will never apologize for it. I will never apologize for being happy about it. I think fans, fans,

Too often get into this whole thing of like, well, if we would, if we would have lost every game, we could have had the first pick on the draft and we could have Abdul Carter. Would you give up every win last season to get Abdul Carter? You're now, you're now playing a game that's fast and loose with your emotions. Think of where you were in that mom. Actually, I'm sure Karn was actually pissed when the field goal was made. Like, damn it. We lost just knowing, um,

I will never apologize for that. And I will never give up that win. You will never. And there's a, there's a great chance that Caleb Williams never loses in Lambeau. And I want to keep that streak intact. Oh, the never losing Lambeau. I like that. Great chance of it too. Look, I'm a hundred percent in agreement with you on that one, Adam, like you,

And I'll go back to something the way you were just putting something different a few minutes ago. But like the difference to me between the seventh and the 10th pick. Yeah. Under Biden, Americans' cost of living skyrocketed. Food, housing, auto insurance. Lawsuit abuse is a big reason everything's more expensive today. Frivolous lawsuits cost working Americans over $4,000 a year in hidden taxes.

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Explore the tropics and save at Whole Foods Market in-store and online. It's just not as big to me as the difference between you beat Green Bay. Yeah. And not only, it almost didn't even, it does matter that it's Green Bay, but you had to finish a game like that and not have yet another game get away from you that you were in position to win, which was a theme the whole season. Yeah.

get the kick to go in, beat your rival, then go hire a head coach who gets up to the podium and takes a shot at the Packers head coach who one of my other big takeaways from this week, very much in Matt LaFleur's head. Yeah, that is a real thing. There is a rivalry back on with the bears beating the Packers, hiring Ben Johnson, Matt LaFleur's reaction, uh,

This is going to be fun. And to me, that matters a hell of a lot more than the difference between the seventh and the 10th pick. Yeah, there was something great about the way he did that too. And I've mentioned this before, but like a lot of times these coaches come in and I think Eberflus did this and Maggie probably did too. Like there's a template of like, hey, I love deep dish pizza. I would never put ketchup on a hot dog and beat the Packers. Matt Maggie is still saying that right now.

But what Ben Johnson did was call out Matt LaFleur personally. It wasn't like, well, I want to beat the Packers. Nope. I enjoy beating Matt LaFleur. Called out that coiffed and eyebrowed coach, the guy in the Lululemon on the sidelines, called him out, did not mince words. We need that kind of energy in Chicago. And people will be like, and that's the thing. By beating them individually,

In week 18, go, why don't you beat them? See, now we just beat you in week 18. So you can't even go to like, beat us for it. We just did. We've never lost to you in 2025. Caleb Williams has never lost in your dumb stadium. And yeah, so yeah, we can say all that stuff. Rivalry is back on.

So I love you guys. And I think this is totally adorable. And everybody in the chat is with you and I'll risk being the unpopular guy here. If, if Tyler Warren goes out to be a hall of favorite, he's picked seven and we ended with Will Campbell and his short arms don't make it. I am playing this tape back to you on replay for the rest of time. Cause that would, but hopefully that won't happen. The bears will get their guy. And to your point. And I thought that it was a couple of people made the point in the chat, the, the mentality, the,

The grace, the excitement that it gave Caleb and the Bears, hopefully there's going to be a ton of value in that. If they hadn't won the game, they'd be sitting there right now, 11 losses in a row. It would be a weight on the team to start next season. That part of it, even more so to me than beating Green Bay and dunking on the Packers, which of course is sweet, but that whole thing, carrying that around, that weight, I wouldn't want that on the team. So that part of it is a big win.

Listen, like, you never know. And sometimes you're better off not. What if the Bulls picked second in, what was it, 84? And we're like, well, maybe we will take Sam Bowie instead of letting Michael. What if that happens? What if some team –

picks Ashton Gentry, and he turns into Blair Thomas. I missed it. I lost everybody there. Look him up. Look up Blair Thomas. It's a great story. It actually helped launch a dynasty in the 1990s. And what if Will Campbell is a Hall of Famer who we wouldn't have taken, but we had to at number 10,

The reverse can also happen. I'll play this tape back. I'll be like, oh, look at this. Carm wanted to lose to the Packers. Take the wrong player, and we'll bring this tape back. Yeah. In general, when I'm sitting at 4-12, I'd probably rather go to 4-13 to get the higher pick 99.99999% of the time. But this is adorable and cute, which is why I brought it up. It's not adorable. No, it's about a mindset.

It's about, I feel like this is the butterfly effect. What if Ben Johnson would have seen that, seen the Bears fold again and been like, you know what? Maybe I'll go to Jacksonville. Maybe I'll go coach the Raiders. What if that would have turned him off? Been like, I don't think I trust this team. Maybe that's the butter. Much like Tyreek Stevenson, one rookie of the year for Jaden Daniels. That win might have landed us Ben Johnson. You never know how history would have been.

That's an interesting one, by the way. If you go back and with the Hail Mary doesn't happen. The flus is still here. Oh, God, that's actually that's actually the worst, because that would we would have went to what five and two. And and I don't know what would have happened in Arizona.

But I don't think that we would have folded against the Patriots, which gives us six wins. Maybe we miracle another one. If we get to seven, eight wins, like it's very justifiable to be like, hey, this team turned a corner once they fired Shane Waldron.

Things are trending in the right direction. Let's keep the continuity. Yeah. So that actually, I think. Yeah. Especially if you, if he had also beaten green Bay in the final week of the season. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. A hundred percent. If you, if you, if you follow the logic there, you just came over to calm side of the street losing, losing, losing,

a little a little completely different movies completely different movies it's all a little calm yeah calm we're gonna 99.999 it's adorable that you have this train of thought calm it's very cute it's precious thank you a lot of it's cute yeah all right uh before we let adam go hold on don't f the production meeting we're fine oh

We all go to the top of the hour. I came in late. So thank you, Steven, for looking out for me. But I've already, I called in on my way in here to the studio, my studio today and sorted everything. Is that how you worded it to them too? F the production meeting? Yeah.

Yeah, I'm a big extra production meeting person. I'm like, why am I in this production meeting? Like, it's funny. I'm like, you guys, I'm in one block. Like, can we do this ahead of time? And then today is actually a day where I'm on twice. And I'm like, hey, can I do this early? And so, like, I call up Mac, and he's like, okay. And you can tell he's at his computer, and he's just typing away. And I'm giving out my terrible stuff, my terrible takes. And we call it a show. We call it the Insiders on NFL Network.

Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. Where and when can we watch that terrible show? The Insiders. What time is it on? Terrible. Six, six central. Six, 70. Great show. You know what they do that I appreciate? This is a true story. They podcast that show. And I actually will listen to it in my, my long commute sometimes just to soak in all the great information.

It is a good show. Our insiders, I know that I was sitting there and I was making fun of Schefter earlier. Schefter does a great job too. There's no disrespect to him. This is an opportunity, Rank. I apologize for interrupting you here, but you get in that production meeting, you say whoever brings up Case Keenum, because I'm sure you're going to lead the show with Case Keenum today. Credit Mark Carman. Oh.

Oh, God, I'm talking. Yeah, because we my new signature bit that we like and I always you know me now. I love to make signature bits and we're like, what were they thinking? Or what are they thinking? What do they think? What are they thinking? And one of the things we're going to hit on is the Arlington Heights thing. And so I will bring up, by the way, Case Keenum signed with the bear. Nobody, nobody credited Mark Harmon for breaking the news. And I'm very upset. Yeah, I shall call the insiders.

We will do that. Oh, by the way, can I say one other thing too with our vast audience here? A couple of weeks ago, two weeks ago, whatever it was, I cut a promo with Seth Rollins on Good Morning Football. And I was telling a story like how my dad went to go watch the Bears at Comiskey Field or Comiskey Field, Comiskey Park. And these Chicago people were like, the Bears never played at Comiskey. And I'm like, check the record books.

There is a team in Chicago called the Cardinals who played their games at Comiskey Park. And my dad, who was fresh off the boat from World War II, working at a bar in Michigan. I forget, it was State Street, Michigan Avenue, Washington.

I don't remember the bar. He's like, we couldn't afford to go to games at Wrigley Field, so we'd go down to Comiskey because it was easy to get into those games, and we would watch the Bears beat the Cardinals. So, yes, the Bears did play games. They were not the home team, but...

But they did play games at Comiskey. Check yourself, people. I'm going to sit here and not know my history. Get out of here. Well, and let me add on to that because, you know, me and Hogue's guy back in the day when we were doing the WGN Bears postgame show, Ed Obradovich, who grew up here in that time frame, he used to go to Cardinals. He'd say, my dad would take me to the Cardinals games. Nobody went. You could get in for five cents. But, yep.

You know, a world champion 1963 bear used to go to the Cardinals games as a kid at Comiskey Park. There you go. Oh, nice. True story. We are going to get to the segment, though. Ranks a lot right now because when your name is Adam Rank, you ranks a lot. You have to. Ranks a lot. Credit to, I don't know if this was Steven or Greg or whoever came up with it. Great job.

It was actually one of our commenters. Oh, really? Very nice. You're in the chat. Please say who you are so you get proper credit here. There it is. Yeah, you didn't shifter it by just taking credit. Way to go. That's right. All right, Adam. Well, I'm definitely not either. I'm terrible when it comes to naming segments and shows and stuff. That's why my other show is just called Hogan Jodds. I don't know. It's just our names. Braggs in the spans. Who came up with that? That's good. All right, Ray. That's a good one.

All right, Adam, what are we doing this week? Oh yeah. You know what? I got to, uh, I guess I got to hustle through this, but, um, I wanted to do a little ode to Val Kilmer, one of my favorite actors. Um, and Aaron Nagler was the one who tweeted out the news and it was on April 1st. And I'm like, Aaron, if you're, if this is your idea of a joke, uh, but I knowing Aaron well enough, I'm like, um,

I knew he wasn't messing around. Aaron and I are very similar with our taste in music. The only thing we differ on, I think, is sports teams. So I wanted to take an opportunity right now to go through my personal ranking of Val Kilmer movies. And it's time for Ranks A Lot, everybody! At number five...

I'm going to go. I hope. Yeah, good. We were able to change it. I have the doors here. I actually had the saint that I had the doors. I'm like, oh, my God, I forgot he was in heat. Val Kilmer is in so many great movies that you forget. You forget a ton of them. So number five was he. Number four, his Batman movie. I'm going to say for a number of reasons, yeah.

Number one, he was an underrated Bruce Wayne. I think that was very good. It also had Kiss from a Rose by Seal on the soundtrack, which already makes it an epic movie. And number three is a kid who grew up in the 80s who did a segment called The Danger Zone. Top Gun is obviously going to be on this list. It's the whole reason I got into volleyball. So Top Gun is my number three movie.

And number two is a great movie. And I actually saw this in the theater at the Showcase Theater in Corona, California, the same place that once hosted a, that eventually would go on to host, become a punk rock venue. And I saw Blink-182 there. So I saw Can't Buy Me Love.

This movie and Blink-182 at the Showcase Theater in Corona, California. Real genius. Underrated movie, underrated performance by Val Kilmer, who plays like the smart-alecky wise guy that you see a lot of like Ryan Reynolds will play.

But he comes off as a more genuine big brother to the title character, and it was really good. And so for number one, this will shock a lot of people, and Greg was upset about this. I'm going to go top secret, which is one of my favorite all-time movies. One of the most quotable movies of all time. If anybody remembers, there's a scene with a guy. He's like, souvenirs, novelties, party tricks, stuff.

I'm at the New York, New York hotel and casino in Las Vegas one time, and the cigarette girl comes by, and I say that line. And the guy sitting at first base on the blackjack table goes –

you dropped your phony dog poo. And I'm like, what phony dog poo? And we had a moment, we went out and made some money. So those are my top five Val Kilmer movies. And I know a lot of people will be like, I love Tombstone. And I understand that. Tombstone's a great movie. If you want to talk about acting performances, one of the greatest. However, I'm more of a comedy guy and I'm not a Western guy, even though I'm,

Not even though. I like it. Listen, Tombstone's a fine movie. It's great. It's not... Any one of those other five movies, I will stop and watch. Tombstone is hit or miss for me. I'm sorry. No disrespect. If you like Tombstone, please continue to like Tombstone. Go make your own list. And I will be like, okay, that's very good. I like when people can just be like, oh, I see your list. I like Tombstone more. I'm like, okay. Like Greg did it today. And they're like, oh, yeah. Like, that just...

That movie just isn't one of my favorites. Like, I'm glad that you enjoy it. I'm not going to do it. It's kind of like if you go to Portillo's, like, you don't yell at somebody who's like, you didn't double dip your Italian beef. Who are you? But I think the internet gives people that thing. Like, you can just share and be like, oh, I like Toon Stone more. I'm like, I appreciate you.

It did not make my list. That's a great way to go into the weekend. You don't have to yell at everybody about everything. You can just agree to disagree and have your own list. Like going back to talking about Aaron Nagler, like we love like the Pesh mode and all this stuff. I...

I do not like the green Bay Packers, but I can still love the man. And I think that we can all disagree or we can all agree. Like I'm, I would love to see everybody's list of Val Kilmer movies because I would like people to celebrate it and go out there and watch your favorite Val Kilmer movie this weekend and have a good time. And also watch the insiders. Uh, uh, and then I, now, now I truly have to go. We love you, Adam. Uh,

I it's all been said in the chat. I, I talked to our guy, Lawrence Benedetto, former elite producer. I asked him, he's a big movie guy. What's your favorite Val Kilmer row. He's like, Oh, come on doc holiday. And I was like, I'm like, and I'll throw myself under the bus here. I'm like, yeah, what movie is that from? And that's when he lost his mind. And so I need to see tombstone. It's on the list. It's not that it's a bad movie. And hippie nerd is like,

People love Tombstone. Love it. I haven't even seen it. I need to go see it, I guess. I don't think that you have to see every movie. Like, not everybody has to agree on the same movie. I'm sorry that I like Top Secret better. I'm an idiot. I get it. But it's all good. All right, Adam. Go get your meeting. We appreciate you. Have a great weekend. Thank you so much. We'll see you guys. Thanks for having me. You're the best, Rank. See you. We'll see you next week. All right. There he is, Adam Rank, on this Friday. And...

Some things to close out the show with here, some shout outs. I know we got a lot of super chats as well. Should I tell my Joe Buck story? You absolutely should. Yes. Okay. All right. So for those that don't know the part of the, you know, they cover a lot of ground at the NFL annual meeting. That's not the official name of it called the owner's meetings because it is the owner's means, but it's the NFL annual meeting.

And they've like all their committees. And so part of that is obviously broadcasting, right? So usually like the main, like the top broadcasters that you see do NFL games are typically at these meetings. Now to set this up, Joe Buck has been there before, but I've never actually gone up and talked to him. And this year my wife's there with me and she's like,

Come on, we got to go. We got to go say hi to Joe Buck. And here's why. Because five years ago during the pandemic, when the sports world was shut down, there were no games. So if you're Joe Buck, you're any of these play by play guys like there's nothing to call. So he did this cool thing on the Internet. Good use of Twitter.

um where he said send me some videos and i'll voice over some play-by-play and whichever ones i choose and do i'll also donate money to a charity of that person's choice of whoever's video he takes so that and some of you may have seen this but this was five years ago now which is crazy it's march 24th 2020 um

He did this video of me playing basketball with my son, James, who at that time was only five years old. He's now 10 in our living room at our old house. Here's that video. Okay. Here's Adam pride of Chicago teaching his son a lesson in life. Here we go. Let's roll it. The kid, first of all, strong shot, uh,

Kind of the old school over the head, two handed. Whoa. Wow. Back into his face. And now Adam doesn't feel so good. Sorry. I love you. Kiss. Life's hard. Suck it up. That's just the way things work in this world. Again, beautiful shot. Nothing but net. And then Adam doesn't like anybody scoring on him. And wham, bang. Oh, ow, dad.

That'll come out in therapy in about 20 to 22 years.

There it is. And Joe also made a donation to the 22Q Family Foundation, which is the genetic condition 22Q that my son was born with too. So it was all awesome. It was very, very cool of Joe to do. So anyway, I had this opportunity on Monday night to go up and say hi to him. I pulled my phone out. He was super nice. And like, I didn't even have to hit play on the video card. The second I showed him that tweet, even just like,

he just glanced at it for two seconds i know exactly what that is he it he remembered it right away uh was super nice and so i just wanted to share that that story with joe buck because it's a good excuse just to play the video again too i i met joe once he was i had the same experience as him being a supreme individual just very easy going um that video is hysterical let's i mean

young Hogue wearing a great athletic pants looking like just a happy hole in the middle of the pandemic. Oh, none of us. Come on. We were all early showered and yeah, but just wearing sweats every day, not allowed to go outside. It was in March of 2020. Yeah.

I kind of miss the pandemic. I loved, you know, the pandemic was amazing. Didn't have to do anything. You know, I got to work from home, go into the grocery store. It was a little dicey for a while there, but then, you know, you, you settled in. You had the last dance every Sunday night. Actually, it was a horrible time for me. It was, but I won't go deep, deep down into that, but there was, there were some benefits to the pandemic. Thank you very much.

And that's, you weren't, you were to orange Cassidy's one. You minute you were a minute bowl.

Yeah. Well, you look, you've been on the receiving side of that block. What's that like? That's a wild comment to make it. And I don't ever recall you swatting me, but, you know, hey, I apparently have repressed that memory. Is it Tolanos? Is it Tolanos? Well, I'll have to deal with that in therapy, just like James will in the next 20 to 22 years. So it'll come out at some point. What a great comment too by Joe. This is really...

That was spot on. I thought that Hogue was playing ball with Kermit. You got any shout outs or we should go to the super chats? Yeah, I do actually. Just a little pivot here. Rory Spears. I don't know if a lot of people know that name, but Rory's been a

you know, reporter in the, you know, at literally every Chicago sporting event since I started, you know, getting to go to sporting events back in 97 and Rory passed away. I found out about that this morning and he was big in the golf scene, just big sports fan period. And I was just reading a lot of the comments on Facebook of just people talking about what a, what a nice guy Rory was, which is exactly exactly.

That is what he was. He was just a really good dude. And, you know, when you leave this world, if people are just calling you a great person, a super nice guy, that's not a bad way to go on out. It's a hell of a tribute. So I just wanted to take a second to give condolences to a guy that a lot of people in the media and maybe some fans are aware of as well. Roy is really, really a first class dude. Yeah, that's well said. Yeah, I remember back when I really was a young hoag.

When you would send me to Sox games to go get sound as an intern. Sox and Hawks. Yeah. The press box. Yeah, Sox and Hawks. I'll take it. I'll take it. Perfect for you. Yeah, perfect for you, too. It was. Absolutely. I'll go to Cubs and Bulls and Bears. Go ahead. You go to Sox and Hawks.

But anyway, the way the press box set up at White Sox Stadium, it's like they moved in. I don't know. That must have been 20 years ago now from right behind on plate up to where the basically the 400 level suites are. And so that each they're like the press box is almost divided into like suites that are open, but there's like sections. So all the radio guys are the last one sharing, you know,

15 square feet of space. And anyway, Rory was always kind of sit, he was always sitting in that area. Bruce Levine would be there. You know, the radio, Mark Grody would be in there. Um, but anyway, Rory, so you couldn't help, but get to know the guy. Cause you're sitting there watching, um, you know, baseball game for three hours and same thing. Like I'm not gonna, I didn't know Rory that well, but my memories from those times were always just could not have been, you know, nicer to, uh,

23 year old nobody intern from WGN radio at the time. So yeah, he will be missed. Yeah. It's not, it's, it's amazing. It's not that hard to be nice to guys, but when you start out in the business, it's not necessarily the experience that you always get. So outside of that, Hogue, one other shout out snid bit moment of a Friday fry. Yay. You know,

I don't know if I've ever mentioned on the show, but my niece, Grace Carmen, two-time All-State, going for three-time. 2-0 today, big game against Jones Prep. Big goal earlier this week as they took out Taft. First time I've ever been to Taft High School. Outstanding little spot there off a 90. Great, great environment there. But the girls' soccer season is rocking. Watch out for the Lane Tech champions. They're doing things. And, yes, we're dreaming downstate this year, so let's go. She's a superstar.

headed to a commator commitment, Brandeis university. So going to be spending some time in being town before she enters the transfer portal portal next year and gets paid zillions of dollars. That's the plan. So one year at Brandeis, then into the portal. That's what, that's, that's, that's what's happening. That's new. You're, you're putting her in the portal before she even gets to the school. She's supposed to go to next year. I am. I might as well. Yeah. Advance it a year. Yeah. I mean, listen, she's going to dominate. And then, yeah,

We'll see who wants to step up and with the proper dollars. Well, you know, that's a side gig for me. Agent, Grace Carman, Uncle Carm. I think that's one of the problems with NIL. There's a lot of Uncle Carms involved. Yeah, well, I'm going to bring integrity to the transfer portal. That's my plan. Right here. If you fix it, that'll be your...

what you're known for forever, your legacy. Thank you. Fix on it. And I, all right, let's get to super chats and jump into the weekend. Isaac Siegel, $5. Hey guys, Hogue thoughts on adding Hunter wool, Wooler at 72 for safety feels like a possible brisker replacement. I like Hunter Wooler went to Wisconsin. That's why he's asking me about it. But you're okay. Not really, but it'll be all right. You drop your phone.

No, no. It's a little bit of a... Did you spill something? Yeah, maybe. It could be a coffee situation going on here. But don't worry. It's only on the floor. It's not near any computer, Stephen. We're all good. And, you know, we'll have a fresh brew in Studio B. But you can wrap the show at any point. That'd be great.

Well, if you need to go get something, he can put me on ISO and I can get through the, no, no, it's, it's okay. I like Hunter roller. I would be fine with the bears draft. You know, he's very similar to a lot of other Wisconsin defensive players who just sort of find their way around the football and play hard. A Bragg's in the stands, $2. I'm working, but I miss you. That's right. Thanks Greg. Working so hard in the stands at Wrigley.

It's actually one of the greatest accomplishments in podcasting life. The dude just apparently came up with an idea. Why don't you just send me to Wrigley on Fridays and I'll sit in the bleachers and get drunk and that'll be my job. And they said, okay. And that's what happened. 120 club. It's brilliant. It really is. Anthony Tranchita for 99 thoughts on the Bears drafting an edge rusher at 10 and a running back at 39.

Sure. I'll say this. I would not take edge rusher off the table at all at 10 because I don't think they have the waves of pass rushers that they're looking for right now. Braxton, it stands $5. Pretty long way to crutch to the damn visitor's dugout, but thanks, Hot Dog Bob. That goes earlier in the show. Hot Dog Bob. How is Hot Dog Bob offering up beer, though?

Wouldn't it be a hot dog? Well, it's actually the Vooch who was a cousin of hot dog Bob and the Vooch had him covered and Bragg's was too weak to crutch there, which is just soft. Okay, fair enough. Bragg's in the stands again. Two dollars. Rank with the reverse adorable on Karm. That is true. He did. He did call you adorable. That was a fun. It was a fun rank today.

And then Gabe Gardner, 499. Hoag Karm hurt my feelings yesterday. Now I will never have hope for Chicago sports, but I'll still listen to the podcast because CHGO is the best. Well, he said, I'll have to check it out. He said yesterday that he's like, he's like, I can't, I can't stop my excitement for all these Chicago sports teams. And I was like,

What are you talking about? The Cubs are five and four. I mean, but hey, he's he's fired up, man. Go, go, Gabe. I like that belief. And there it is. What a way to end the week. There it is. I mean, you know, South America has come to Studio B.

Knowing that building, there are at least two drips of coffee that have already gone down to the floor below. That's a good thing that office has been vacant for a while. My bad. Sorry. That was a $4.60 coffee.

You know, we got to see, this is not the time to be wasting. It's like, yeah, you're the one who's like anti pay more than $3 for coffee. I am, but I must be really bothering you then that you spilled. Oh, I did. Of course it is. I just brought it up. Every cent of it. It's freaking killing me. Horrible job. I got my heat coffee at home. My friends from heat coffee. They're awesome.

you know, and then I got, I got my sip cup that I pay for, but I did none of that today. And then I paid for this and there it is. Not a terrible job. Well, drink it off the floor. Yeah. Well, it's a good thing that we have outstanding cleaning products here. And, uh, the director of garbage will be swinging into action here.

Right after the show ends, I already took out the pizza boxes. Don't worry about it. I understand me. We really missed you when you were gone the week before. I mean, I came in today. There was a bunch of, you know, a ton of pizza was in here yesterday. We had people coming in from all over the place, helping us out this weekend to set up with all these things. And, you know, hey, and then director of garbage comes to the next day to clean up, clean up after him. No problem. I got you.

Rector of garbage spilled out some soda that wasn't drinking, took out three boxes. Yeah. Some, some would say director of garbage takes. Yeah. Steven liked that one. I wouldn't say that Nick Wright maybe would or Danny Parkins. I don't know. Those guys next to in the front row, hugging LeBron. Yeah, that's right. Um,

Become a diehard. All cso.com slash diehard. Great way to start your weekend. Let's let Carm go clean up his mess.

Thanks to Steven for producing as always. Thanks. Honestly, thanks to the whole team. It was a busy week of, of content and all, you know, the interviews and stuff, video coming in from Florida, everybody back in Chicago did an amazing job. So I greatly appreciate it. I think all the viewers and listeners do as well. Please hit subscribe.

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