In this episode, Brian Auten and Chad Gross speak with Doug Geivett and Holly Pivec about the “New Apostolic Reformation” (NAR) movement. This is a must-listen for those who have encountered the teachings about modern-day apostles and prophets in the church.0:51 - Intro to the topic of the NAR1:25 - Listener feedback about NAR6:23 - Intro to our guests and the topic of the New Apostolic Reformation8:36 - Welcome of guests9:20 - What got Holly interested in the NAR movement?11:37 - How Doug got involved in the book project14:57 - When people leave the NAR movement…16:57 - What is the NAR movement and what are its teachings?19:08 - What distinguishes this movement?22:07 - What do NAR prophets mean when they say “thus saith the Lord”?30:51 - Where do apostles and prophets get their authority?37:14 - How do you know if your church has been influenced by the NAR?45:06 - Key leaders of the movement47:07 - The “Passion Translation” of the Bible49:00 - “But isn’t God working in this church?” Response...58:48 - What’s happening with all the false “Trump prophecies”?1:06:00 - Does the NAR point out any false prophets or apostles?1:13:32 - Has this caused people to walk away from the faith?1:18:49 - How to “rebuild” after the disillusionment of the NAR1:23:40 - Books to read and what’s to comeFurther resources:God's Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement: http://a315.co/GodsSuperApostles)A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement: http://a315.co/NewApostolicReformation)Doug Geivett Biohttp://a315.co/DougGeivett)Holly Pivec’s website:https://www.hollypivec.com/)Episode 063 - Brian talks about his NAR experienceshttp://a315.co/NAR-Experiences)We welcome your feedback!If you have a question or comment for the podcast, record it and send it our way using www.speakpipe.com/Apologetics315) or you can email us at [email protected])