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IFH 807: Making Your Own Damn Movies: Inside Dave Campfield’s Troma-Fueled Filmmaking Path

2025/6/17
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Dave Campfield: 我在新墨西哥州的圣达菲学院学习电影制作,这所学校已经不存在了,但我在那里获得了宝贵的经验。大学经历更多的是在片场工作和结识其他电影人的经验,而不是课堂上学到的知识。毕业后,我曾有机会与新线电影公司和环球影业会面,但最终只是一个遥不可及的诱饵。我决定不再等待机会,而是自己创作电影。我开始制作自己的电影《Dark Chamber》,并决心打破传统模式,但制片公司却希望看到更熟悉的东西。为了让电影在市场上更具竞争力,我不得不将其宣传为恐怖片,尽管电影上了Netflix,但观众对它的期望与实际内容并不相符。从那以后,我开始创作喜剧恐怖片,以在市场上脱颖而出,并讲述我怀念的故事。我开始主持Troma Now播客是因为劳埃德·考夫曼出现在我的一部电影中,并表示他们想做一个播客,但没有人做。Troma是一家很棒的合作公司,他们给了我很大的自由,而且他们从未拒绝过我做的任何一集节目。制作电影会占据我大量的时间,很难兼顾播客和电影制作。我坚持诚实和现实的原则,不把自己伪装成不是我的人。坚持自己的信念,即使一开始并不顺利,也要从中学习并继续前进。你必须保持前进的动力,否则很容易迷失方向。我一直在断断续续地写一个剧本,叫做《唤醒收割者》,它已经从一个普通的恐怖片发展成了一个非常私人的故事。我无法再用这么少的钱拍电影了,因为我总是因为资金不足而受到批评。我想用更多的预算来展示我更有能力的一面,因为更多的预算意味着更高的制作价值和更多的创作工具。《唤醒收割者》讲述了一个关于摆脱恐惧的故事,希望能够触动人心。我希望《唤醒收割者》能成为一部独特的恐怖片,因为它能触动人心,感觉真实。在当今时代,制作电影并盈利变得越来越困难。与Troma合作播客的好处是,我可以利用他们现有的粉丝群。我曾经错过了与本·阿弗莱克合作的机会。我的粉丝群虽然小,但很忠诚,没有他们,我可能什么也做不了。 Alex Ferrari: 如今,独立电影制作人比以往任何时候都更难通过电影赚钱。独立电影制作的未来在于具有企业家精神的电影制作人或电影企业家。我觉得他上过一所已经不存在的大学这件事很有趣。这次采访非常棒,讲述了如何走出去,自己动手,找到各种方法和联系。你在制作电影的同时也在制作播客。我想问一下,你上的大学为什么会倒闭?我大学经历很糟糕,我仍然不明白我为什么要上大学。如果每个人都有学士学位,那它实际上意味着什么?我有一个朋友,他在商务会议上说了很多商业流行语,结果对他很有利。如果你停止前进,很容易失去一切。我现在正以另一种方式努力,我试图建立一个更近期的作品集。当我去找投资者时,我实际上有一个更近期的作品集。你的优势不仅在于你拥有播客,还在于你拥有一系列作品,你可以说,嘿,我用几千美元就完成了这些,想象一下我用50美元能做什么。如今,如何让你的电影脱颖而出?让我们假设我们制作了一部电影,并将其上传到YouTube上。劳伦·弗朗西斯卡是我在YouTube上合作过的最成功的人。我会把Piggyzilla的链接放在节目说明里。我有一个朋友经营着一个顶级的YouTube频道,但他已经不怎么更新了。如果他能不断地制作内容,他每个月都能从这个频道赚到很多钱。拥有一个品牌名称非常重要。一旦你用一个品牌名称做了一个播客,你就会得到你自己的名字。如果你要开始你自己的播客,这里有一些建议。名字必须是独特的,容易记住的,并且与播客的内容相关。我认为采访播客已经达到了顶峰,所以越能脱颖而出越好。马克·马龙在播客刚开始的时候就开始了,如果他现在才开始,可能不会那么幸运。现在有数百万个播客,我们很难脱颖而出。新播客通常都有大量的营销资金支持。制作地狱是一个关于独立电影制作的审判和磨难的播客。

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Dave Campfield's filmmaking journey began at the now-defunct College of Santa Fe, a unique film school with an on-campus studio. He recounts early meetings with major studios, the illusion of success, and the challenges of navigating the industry's expectations. His experiences led him to embrace independent filmmaking and his unique comedy horror style.
  • Attended College of Santa Fe, which no longer exists
  • Early meetings with Universal and New Line Cinema
  • Challenges of meeting studio expectations
  • Creation of "Dark Chamber", a mystery-horror film
  • Transition to comedy horror films

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When two Daves walk into a podcast, you don’t expect to stumble upon a meditation on art, failure, persistence, and horror-comedy. But that’s exactly what happened in this electric and delightfully unfiltered conversation with Dave Campfield, a filmmaker, actor, and host of the Troma Now Podcast, best known for his work in the cult Caesar and Otto comedy-horror film series.Dave Campfield is a fiercely independent filmmaker whose journey from a now-defunct film college in New Mexico to directing his own cult horror satires has been a long and winding road paved with hustle, humor, and horror.We start in the sand-colored surrealism of Santa Fe, where adobe buildings and the ghost of City Slickers set the stage for Dave’s early filmmaking dreams. In the land of tumbleweeds and tumble-down gym studios turned sound stages, Dave cut his teeth not just on film but on the art of adaptation.The college no longer exists, but the memories—like chalk lines under studio lights—remain vivid in his story. “It was like going to school on Tatooine,” he says, laughing, but behind that joke is a bittersweet nod to the ephemeral.From there, Dave walks us through the illusion of success—early meetings with Universal and New Line Cinema where hopes were dangled like carrots in front of eager young dreamers. The industry, he quickly learned, speaks its own coded language: familiarity, marketability, and sometimes, plain deception. One mentor told him to “say you're young, from the streets, and have a dark comedy,” regardless of truth. Dave gave it a shot but came away with the haunting realization that "they were intrigued enough to keep me on leash, but not enough to make it happen."That experience seeded his first real film, “Dark Chamber,” a mystery-horror project which deliberately bucked slasher formulas. It took five years to make—five years of blood, sweat, and overdrafts. And yet, when the studios responded with, “We wanted something more familiar,” Dave knew he was swimming upstream. Still, he sold the film to a small distributor, endured its repackaging as something it wasn’t, and got it onto Netflix. A win—just not the one he envisioned.But here’s the heart of it all: Dave didn’t stop. He pivoted, not with bitterness, but with evolution. “I decided I wasn't going to be one of those people waiting for opportunity. You had to make it happen on your own.” And so, he leaned into comedy horror—a genre he describes as “Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein, but for the splatter generation.” Thus, Caesar and Otto were born: two absurdly lovable doofuses bumbling their way through massacres, monsters, and paranormal mayhem.One of Dave’s secret weapons is loyalty to what’s real. Whether recounting how Lloyd Kaufman forgot him (then remembered) or editing commercials for the Philadelphia Pet Expo, he keeps a kind of grounded magic about his craft. He shares a deeply personal new project, “Awaken the Reaper,” born from a decade of introspection and struggle, calling it “the most personal thing I’ve ever written.” He says, “It’s about being stuck—feeling like every day you’re not moving forward—and finally getting out of your own way.”All along, Dave’s been quietly building a reputation for casting future stars before they break—Trey Byers (Empire), Peter Scanavino (Law & Order)—and hosting a podcast that thrives not just because of brand synergy with Troma, but because he genuinely knows how to talk to people. “They’ve never rejected an episode,” he remarks. “I tease Troma a lot, and they’re always game. It’s a beautiful collaboration.”The conversation wraps not with grandiosity, but a recognition that even the smallest cult followings can keep a creator going. “My fanbase is small, but intense,” Dave says with pride. “I can rattle them off on two hands.” Maybe that’s enough. Maybe that’s everything.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support).