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Episode 372: Lustful Appetites

2025/2/18
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Justin Lehmiller: 在早期，法国餐厅不仅仅是吃饭的地方，而是兼具性交易的场所。这些餐厅在美国开设时，也设有私人房间供人们进行性交易，以至于在20世纪，法国餐厅更多地被认为是关于性的场所，而非美食。然而，随着时间的推移，餐厅的性质发生了转变，逐渐演变成以美食为主的场所。我想探讨这种转变是如何发生的，以及背后的原因。 Rachel Hope Cleves: 法国餐厅的出现定义了美国餐厅的概念，并保留了法国餐厅的许多特点，包括菜单用法语书写和设有私人房间。在19世纪后半叶到20世纪初，'法国餐厅'一词几乎成了与性工作者会面或进行非法性行为的代名词。即使到了1960年代，法国餐厅仍然带有性交易场所的名声。这表明法国餐厅在美国的早期发展与性行业密切相关，但随着社会的发展和法律的改变，餐厅的性质也逐渐发生了转变。

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This chapter explores the evolution of restaurants, from their origins as places where men went for both food and sex in 1800s France to their transformation into establishments primarily focused on dining. It examines the role of French restaurants in the US, the legality of prostitution, and the eventual push by women to make restaurants more inclusive and less associated with sex work.
  • Early French restaurants in France and the US were known for offering private rooms for sex.
  • Prostitution was legal in the US until the early 1900s, its outlawing linked to military needs.
  • The shift towards restaurants being primarily about food happened gradually in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
  • Women's rights movements played a crucial role in making restaurants accessible and inclusive for women.

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In the previous episode), we discussed the history of food and sex, which turns out to be a truly fascinating topic! Today, we’re diving even deeper into the subject. We’re going to explore how diet culture became a way of suppressing female pleasure, how interest in fine food came to be associated with being gay, why French food has a particularly strong association with sex, and more.

I am joined once again by Rachel Hope Cleves), a professor of history at the University of Victoria and a member of the College of the Royal Society of Canada. She is the author of four award-winning nonfiction history books) and one science fiction novel). Her latest book is titled “Lustful Appetites: An Intimate History of Good Food and Wicked Sex.”)

Some of the specific topics we explore include:

  • Why did a woman’s appetite for food become a barometer for her sexuality?

  • When did restaurants shift from being places people primarily went for sex to places people went for food?

  • Where did the association between gay men and gourmet cooking come from?

  • How did cooking become a tool for seduction?

  • How is the connection between food and sex playing out today on social media?

You can check out Rachel’s website) to learn more about her work.

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