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Forget Clients—Build What You Want and Own It Too

2025/4/28
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Architects often feel stuck in a cycle of underpaid work, long hours, and limited creative control—especially when dealing with the pressures of traditional practice. Many wonder if there’s another path, one that offers both freedom and financial reward without leaving architecture behind.

In this episode of the Business of Architecture podcast, Rion Willard sits down with Amanda Baillieu and Gus Zogolovitch, the co-founders of Developer Collective. They open up about their mission to help architects take control of their future—and why now may be the best time to make a bold move.

You’ll hear the story behind how Developer Collective started, and what inspired Gus and Amanda to build something that’s shaking up the status quo. They also touch on the unique skills architects already have—ones that developers deeply need—and why those talents may be more valuable than most realize.

Listen to this episode, to learn:

  • Why an overlooked skill architects already have might be their biggest asset
  • The one thing that could unlock hidden sites across London—and beyond
  • A surprising reason why finding money may not be the real problem
  • What some developers now envy about architects (and won’t admit)

 

To learn more about Gus & Amanda, visit their:

Website: www.developercollective.co)

LinkedIn: tch/https://www.linkedin.com/in/gus-zogolovi)

 

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