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Former Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry Talks US Strikes on Iran

2025/6/22
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Patrick McHenry: 我认为共和党内部分歧不大,总统对伊朗采取的有限且有针对性的行动是长期积累的结果。奥巴马政府与伊朗的核谈判最终导致了今天的局面。伊朗通过代理人对美国军队采取行动,并且在某种程度上策划了哈马斯对以色列的袭击。总统在采取行动前寻求谈判解决,但伊朗没有认真对待。大部分共和党人支持采取强硬姿态维护美国的力量,为了确保美国的强大,必要时需要采取压倒性的反击。俄罗斯应该注意到,美国总统在必要时会采取果断行动,尤其是在谈判失败后。俄罗斯从伊朗获得了无人机技术,这在乌克兰战场上发挥了作用,两国之间的联系非常重要。伊朗外长在美国袭击后立即与普京会面,表明我们的敌人之间存在协调一致的努力。总统在中东的行动与乌克兰战场上的局势相关联。两党在国会授权使用武力问题上存在分歧。过去针对海湾战争、9/11事件和阿富汗战争的授权被历任总统广泛使用,国会试图修改这些授权但未完全成功。阻止或减缓伊朗核计划对全球有益。英国首相支持美国的行动,世界对此感到宽慰,美国国会也会有类似反应,但两党内部仍存在分歧。美国军方目前处于观望状态,但以色列在美国袭击后立即采取了行动。需要进一步努力限制伊朗对美国军队、美国在中东的资产及其盟友进行报复的能力。美国和以色列之间的协调是真实且有效的。五角大楼的预算庞大,总统有广泛的决定权。国会将关注总统是否按照《战争权力法案》的规定,事先向国会通报了此次行动。如果总统遵守了法律,国会不太可能限制总统采取进一步行动的能力。总统使用的权力并非新鲜事物,尽管存在争议,但两党在过去20年中都曾使用过。

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The US conducted limited targeted strikes on Iranian nuclear sites, a response to Iranian proxies' actions against American troops and their role in the Hamas attack on Israel. This action was seen as measured and necessary by most Republicans, who prioritized a strong American response.
  • US strikes on Iranian nuclear sites
  • Response to Iranian proxies' actions against US troops
  • Hamas attack on Israel
  • Republicans support strong American response

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of the Pentagon, but of the politics of the moment. Patrick McHenry is steeped in this, of the 10th Congressional District in North Carolina. He is absolutely typical of starting your political career young. I think he was 10 years old when he won his first effort in the 10th Congressional District. He's gone on to substantial Republican acclaim, including Chairman

of the House Financial Services Committee. He is a Bloomberg contributor, I should say, is a former chair of the House Finance Committee. Patrick McHenry, thank you so much for joining us this morning. How divided is the Republican Party?

Not very. The truth is the president has executed a limited targeted effort here that is 15 years in the making. When the Obama administration entered into nuclear negotiations with Iran in 2012, the culmination of those talks led to today. And in fact, the precipitating matter here is Iranian proxies

that have taken serious action against American troops in Iraq and in the Gulf. They were the funders, and in many ways the designers of the Hamas attack on our ally Israel. And the president was patient and sought a negotiated outcome in a quite measured way.

Without the Iranian regime coming to the table with a serious, serious counter. So I think the domestic politics of this, you're going to have a few very ideologically viewed, very ideologically opposed to any foreign intervention being overwhelmed by most Republicans.

who want a strong America and the way to ensure a strong America is when it's necessary, we will punch back with overwhelming force. And I think that's what we just saw. Patrick McHenry, and returning to this, folks, in our four hours of coverage this morning with the former congressman, Patrick McHenry, I find what's absolutely fascinating here and benumbing is,

is Russia has lost a harbor, essentially, on the eastern Mediterranean. They've lost Syria. Maybe they're in the process of losing Iran. The foreign minister of Iran will travel to Moscow, I guess. Explain where you sit, our relationships now after this attack with Russia and with China.

Well, look, I think they're the ones that are taking greatest note of what happened here, which is not that this president is against all foreign action, but that he will be measured, will use force when necessary, when negotiations end. I think the person that should be most taking note here is Vladimir Putin. This administration has won it and campaigned on it.

a peaceful negotiated, a quote unquote peaceful negotiated settlement in Ukraine, if there is one. And it is evident through open source that Russia has gotten its drone technology that has been effective in the Ukrainian battlefield from Iran. And that linkage here is quite significant.

quite evident from that news you just shared, which is the Iranian foreign minister is going directly to meet with Putin the day after the United States strikes. There is a concerted effort among our enemies here, and there's a lot of connectivity between the president's action in the Middle East

And it's the same news to the Ukrainian battlefield. Patrick, what do you expect to see from a response from the Democrats in Congress? There's concern that, A, they weren't consulted. Maybe this was an action the president exceeded his authorizations. But it's tough to argue all that stuff when it appears to be so successful. What do you expect from the Democrats?

Well, look, both parties are divided on the authorization of force in Congress. Both parties have divisions here. For the effort to review...

authorizations that date back to the Gulf War, to 9/11, to our engagement in Afghanistan. They've been utilized by both presidents to take action in very broad ways. There's been efforts in Congress to have revisions to those authorizations of force, but have not been successful in total. And so I think you'll see that divide in both parts on this. But by and large,

stopping the Ukrainian, I'm sorry, the Iranian nuclear program or slowing it down is a global good. This is why you see your Keir Stormer in the UK, a left of center leader

you know, prime minister of the United Kingdom being supportive. I think this is an action that the world is relieved that we have taken. And I think you'll see that similarly play out with a with a by and large, the supermajority of the United States House and Senate, but divisions within both parties for sure.

Patrick, do you see the U.S. military doing follow-up actions here absent any retaliation, or are they kind of in a wait-and-see mode, do you think, at this point? I think they're wait-and-see mode. We see Israel taking action immediately.

Right after our strikes, there's further work to be done, obviously, to restrain the Iranian capabilities for retaliation against American troops and American assets in the Middle East and our allies. And so I think the coordination will continue. And there's evidence that there's coordination between us and Israel that is real and more

more effective for both of us, frankly. With this event, Congressman Henry, and this goes back to House Financial Services Committee and, frankly, Appropriations Committee as well,

What is your experience of funding to the Pentagon after an event like this? Is this an acutely aware need to budget the Navy with their reach in the Gulf of Oman? Or how does the budgeting work after an event like this? Well, look, I mean, the Pentagon budget is massive.

It is a massive budget, so they have broad authorities with ordinance, with munitions, and the president does have broad say here. We heard the secretary of defense say that they did comply with the War Powers Act on informing Congress of this action.

I think we'll hear that from congressional leaders. They'll be pressed on whether or not they were given the heads up on this in conformance with the law. And if they were, I don't think you'll see congressional action to limit the president's further ability to take action.

So it's an important balance between the branches, yes. But the presidential authorities that they're using here are not new, not novel, and they

do have some level of controversy, yes, but have been utilized by both parties over the last 20 years. Patrick McHenry, one final question, if we could. In your Washington, and you're a student there, I made a joke about it earlier, folks, of his tour of duty. This is public service, truly across the span of his adult life. Patrick McHenry, in the Washington here, I believe in wars. Democrats and Republicans come together

Can I wish that at this moment?

No, because where we are in this process, you have a partisan reconciliation bill moving through the Senate this week. You've had mainly partisan fights outside of one piece of legislation on digital assets, cryptocurrency. But this week is going to be a rather partisan week in Washington based off of what is on the Senate floor and what is on the House floor.

And so I don't think there'll be a kumbaya moment. I don't think that's where the Democratic base is.

But I think what you'll see is the MAGA base rally to President Trump's cause here almost in totality. And so in one respect, the antagonism from the left towards a MAGA right on their statements in the election that President Trump would bring this great veil of peace to the world just by his election was grandiose, outsized, and in fact a fiction.

But also you're going to see the left make those MAGA loyalists eat their words in the election, and that is so typical of Washington, so typical of our politics right now. And that won't stop just because of the international action.

here, unfortunately. Patrick McHenry, thank you so much. A Bloomberg contributor to the former chair of the House Finance Services Committee for the Republican Party. For enterprise organizations, managing all your food needs is a tall order. But with Easy Cater, you get a single workplace food vendor with the tools and resources to make it easy, giving teams across your organization an easy way to order from a huge variety of restaurants all on one platform.

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