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Kering: It’s Gucci - [Business Breakdowns, EP.199]

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Matt Russell: 本期节目探讨了全球奢侈品集团开云集团(Kering)的业务模式、竞争优势及发展历程,并与LVMH进行了对比分析,指出Kering近五年业绩下滑明显,而LVMH则增长显著。 Jonathan Eng: 开云集团旗下拥有众多知名品牌,其中Gucci是最大的品牌,贡献了近一半的收入和超过一半的利润。Gucci的业绩受时尚潮流影响较大,其盈利能力比LVMH旗下品牌更具周期性。开云集团的历史可以追溯到其多元化的业务组合,而后逐渐转向专注于奢侈品领域。通过收购Gucci等品牌,并剥离非核心业务,逐步建立了其在奢侈品行业的领导地位。开云集团擅长于收购和发展奢侈品牌,使其规模不断壮大。其多品牌战略能够有效地帮助旗下品牌进行规模扩张和发展。开云集团的战略重点是奢侈品业务,其利润率远高于之前剥离的Puma等非奢侈品业务。 Matt Russell: 开云集团的业务受宏观经济环境影响较大,其业绩与全球财富增长和奢侈品消费需求密切相关。奢侈品行业具有周期性,其业绩受全球经济波动影响显著。奢侈品行业的收入增长主要由价格上涨和销量增长驱动。奢侈品行业的成本主要包括产品生产、门店运营和广告宣传等方面。开云集团旗下不同品牌的利润率存在差异,Gucci的利润率通常较高。 Jonathan Eng: 评估奢侈品牌创意总监的任命需要考虑其过往业绩和品牌发展方向的一致性。评估奢侈品牌需要结合传统方法和新兴数据分析手段。评估奢侈品牌需要考虑全球市场变化和不同地区消费者的偏好。开云集团拥有集中化的研发中心,为旗下品牌提供支持。开云集团旗下品牌的决策权主要在品牌层面,集团提供战略指导和资源支持。自营零售模式能够更好地控制价格、产品和库存,而批发模式的利润率和控制力相对较低。开云集团的品牌在发展过程中会逐渐增加自营零售的比例,减少批发比例。开云集团战略性地选择门店位置,并进行联合租赁以降低成本。开云集团旗下不同品牌在不同地区的市场表现存在差异,这与品牌定位和消费者偏好有关。Balenciaga广告事件对品牌自身影响较大,但对开云集团整体影响有限。开云集团未来并购活动可能有限,主要集中在现有投资的进一步发展。Artemis公司(开云集团母公司)持有Christie's的股份,但Christie's不属于开云集团。对开云集团的估值可以参考市盈率、市销率和市场交易情况,目前估值相对合理。开云集团的资本配置策略受家族控制影响较大,派息是其重要组成部分。开云集团的主要风险在于其运营杠杆和业绩波动。投资奢侈品行业需要耐心,因为品牌转型和产品更新需要时间。

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Why has Kering's stock performance lagged behind LVMH over the past five years?

Kering's stock is down over 60% in the last five years, while LVMH is up over 40%. This underperformance is largely due to Kering's reliance on Gucci, which represents nearly 50% of its revenues and over 50% of its profits. Gucci's cyclical nature, driven by its fashion-forward products, has made it more vulnerable to market fluctuations compared to LVMH's more stable leather goods.

What is the significance of Gucci within Kering's portfolio?

Gucci is Kering's core brand, contributing almost 50% of revenues and over 50% of profits. Its success is highly dependent on fashion trends, making it more cyclical than other luxury brands. Gucci's margins have historically ranged from 30% to 40%, but recent challenges have seen its operating margins drop to just over 20%.

How does Kering's approach to brand acquisition differ from LVMH's?

Kering focuses on scaling up smaller luxury brands by transitioning them from wholesale to retail, leveraging its multi-brand expertise. In contrast, LVMH has diversified into areas like Sephora, luggage, and even hotels, giving it a broader portfolio beyond traditional luxury goods.

What are the key cost drivers in Kering's business model?

The primary cost drivers for Kering include product manufacturing (30% of costs), store networks, and advertising. Advertising is crucial for maintaining brand visibility, especially in luxury markets where consumer perception is key. Operating leverage is achieved through fixed costs like real estate, while advertising and creativity expenses can vary.

How does Kering manage its brand portfolio geographically?

Kering's brands have varying geographical strengths. For example, Bottega Veneta is stronger in Europe and Asia, while Gucci has a significant presence in the US. The company strategically locates stores near competitors like LVMH to negotiate better rents and maximize visibility.

What impact did Balenciaga's controversial ad campaign have on Kering?

Balenciaga's ad campaign fallout significantly hurt its sales, particularly in the US, where consumers have long memories of such missteps. However, Kering's multi-brand strategy mitigates the overall impact, as the damage is largely confined to Balenciaga rather than the entire portfolio.

What is Kering's strategy for future growth through acquisitions?

Kering is unlikely to make major acquisitions in the near term due to a stretched balance sheet (3x EBITDA). However, it holds a 30% stake in Valentino with an option to buy the remaining shares, which could be a future growth driver. The company may also divest some real estate to strengthen its financial position.

How does Kering's valuation compare to its historical performance?

Kering is currently trading at 18 times forward earnings, a significant discount to its historical valuations. If Gucci's margins return to their historical 30%-40% range, the price-to-earnings multiple could drop below 10, making it an attractive investment. The enterprise value to sales ratio is also at a 50%-60% discount compared to historical levels.

What are the key risks associated with investing in Kering?

The primary risks include operational gearing, where small revenue declines can lead to significant profit drops, as seen with Gucci's recent performance. Additionally, the cyclical nature of luxury goods and the reliance on fashion trends make Kering vulnerable to economic downturns and shifts in consumer preferences.

What lessons can investors learn from Kering's business model?

Investors should understand that change takes time, especially in luxury brands where product cycles and management transitions can span years. Kering's experience with Gucci highlights the importance of patience and the need to allow new strategies, such as designer changes, to fully materialize before assessing their success.

Shownotes Transcript

Today, we are breaking down the global luxury group Kering. You know Kering from its brands Gucci, YSL, Bottega Veneta, Balenciaga, and the list goes on. It's a luxury house similar to LVMH, but LVMH over the past five years is up over 40% and Kering is down over 60%.

To break down Kering, I am joined by Jonathan Eng), portfolio manager at Causeway. We cover the owners and operators of Kering, the Pinault family. We also discuss wholesale distribution versus retail distribution and brand margin profiles. But Kering's core brand, Gucci, is different from much of what you see in luxury, and we spent a significant amount of time diving into it. What makes Gucci more cyclical than understated luxury? Where do we stand with Gucci today? And how does Jon think about all of this as an investor tapping into his historical context in the space? Please enjoy this breakdown of Kering.

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to the best content to learn more, check out the episode page here.)

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Show Notes

(00:00:00) Welcome to Business Breakdowns

(00:00:53) Overview of Kering and Its Brands

(00:02:13) Kering's Business Strategy and Challenges

(00:05:02) Historical Context and Family Influence

(00:07:09) Comparing Kering and LVMH

(00:10:27) Financial Performance and Market Dynamics

(00:18:05) Impact of Creative Directors and Brand Evolution

(00:21:28) Modern Analytical Approaches in Luxury Market

(00:23:29) Exploring Kering's Development Centers

(00:24:36) Decentralized Decision-Making in Luxury Brands

(00:25:04) Wholesale vs. Retail: Control and Margins

(00:27:33) Strategic Store Locations and Investments

(00:28:51) Geographical Brand Preferences

(00:30:19) Balenciaga's Advertising Fallout

(00:33:46) M&A Landscape and Future Growth

(00:37:41) Valuation and Market Position

(00:43:06) Operational Gearing and Risks

(00:43:58) Key Lessons from Studying Kering