CZM Rewind: Part Two: Before the Mexican Revolution: Ricardo Flores Magón and the peasants who ended a dictatorship
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Hello and welcome to cool people who did cool stuff. Like one of the cool things that I'm doing is taking an extra week to make sure that this really big story about neoliberalism and the Zapatistas and all that stuff, making sure I do it right. And to facilitate me taking that break, I'm running a rerun. You probably already knew that. This is part two. But

I figured I'd tell you again anyway. And this is an episode about the Maganistas who kind of did the Mexican Revolution before the Mexican Revolution. And I think they're cool and that they did cool stuff, which is why I recorded an episode about them. And I'm playing it again. And here it is.

Hello, and welcome to Cool People Did Cool Stuff, which is a podcast about history and the people in it who did good things, usually in the face of bad things, because that's one of the main things you can do when there's a dichotomy, is take the other side of dichotomy, and if one side of it is bad, then the other side is good. I know how words work. I'm Margaret Kiljoy, and with me today is Katabu. How are you? Hi, I'm great. How are you? I'm doing pretty good.

My dog is outside. Usually when I record, he's like right behind me. I was already telling Kat this, but now I'm apparently telling everyone this. Usually he's like right behind me and every now and then I like look back and get the little, um, the main reason I have a dog is that it's an endorphin machine. You just like look at it and then you're like, aw, you know? So you do that thing when you look at him and then he sort of senses it and then he just like raises his head a little bit to be like, hey. Yeah. And then he's like, or, and then he puts his head back down. It's so good. Perfect.

He's a perfect little angel who is probably now scaring off all the airplanes in the yard because he's learned that if he barks at airplanes, they fly away. So he will probably do it till I die. And I'm glad that I don't have a lot of neighbors and all my neighbors think that my dog is gigantic and scary. And I don't actually hate that. I don't hate that my neighbors think I have a giant scary dog, even though I don't. That's what this episode isn't about. You just have to see Rundra's face. I know. Yeah.

Like, perfect. Yeah. I don't know what this dog looks like, but I love it. Handsome. Handsome? I believe that. I believe that 100%. He's a, if you mixed a Muppet and a tiny German Shepherd together. That's such a perfect description of Rindra.

That sounds like the most perfect being that's ever existed. I know. The other one is actually I can see on screen is Anderson. Oh, yeah. Equally perfect. She's right behind me. It's amazing. It's much like how I run across superlatives in history. And I'm like, how can all these different things be the first? I should just think about it like I think about dogs. All dogs are the best dog. Exactly.

And Anderson's person is our producer named Sophie. Hi, Sophie. That's my favorite way you've ever introduced me. Thank you so much. Well, it's one of the things you're very good at. I hope so. I try really hard. Also, Ian is our audio engineer. Hi, Ian. Hi, Ian. Hi, Ian. Our music was made for us by Unwoman. And this week...

You know, like, okay, I say this every Wednesday. Every Wednesday, I say go back and listen to Monday's episode because it won't make any fucking sense. That's like extra true, I think, this time because you're really coming in in the middle. Like, what do you, why do you make the decisions you do? I mean, I guess anyone can make any decisions they want as relates to this. It's not hurting anyone except yourself. It's just going to be really confusing because you won't get all the awesome backstory and the Louisa shit. Yeah. Louisa doesn't even come back into the story. Exactly. Do you want to miss out on Louisa? Yeah.

No. Margarita doesn't come back in either. Oh my God. Your name is on Lisa and Margarita? Ridiculous. Yeah. So this week, we are talking about the Magonistas, the peasant and proletarian uprisings that came shortly before and likely sparked the Mexican Revolution. Their anti-leader, who wishes he was the leader but hates that he's the leader and has complicated feelings, is a grouchy guy named Ricardo Flores Magón, who is about to flee Mexico after going to jail for like the 10th time.

By 1904, we have to get out of here. The government is probably going to kill us at some point, right? That is a thing that they do. They have a dictator. A few of their crew are already in San Antonio, Texas, or Laredo, Texas, depending on your source. Most of them seem to say San Antonio, including the rich guy Arriaga and the feminist journalist Mendoza, who runs Vesper.

A Texas-based Mexican poet, Sara Estela Ramirez, is there too. She goes on to become a leader of the resistance. She's not woven enough into the stories I read, so I'm just shouting out her name. This is it. Whatever. Anyway, everyone knows how bitter I am about this. So that's where they went penniless. Ricardo's pants were actually patched up because he couldn't afford new pants, which as an anarchist punk who wore black patched pants for most of my 20s when I wasn't wearing dresses,

I'm just really excited about this guy who wears all black and has patch pants. Also, we're going to see Ricardo in a dress before the story is through. Oh, fuck yes. They took jobs as farm laborers and dishwashers. They survived off of the vegetables they gleaned at work. This is like another thing that like people talk about all these like historic revolutionaries and some of them like a lot of...

Just to be rude, a lot of the more liberal ones will be from upper class backgrounds, right? And they'll like be revolutionary space with their family money, which is a good thing to do, right? But so many revolutionaries that I read about, like, yeah, this guy crossed into Texas from Mexico and became and started working as a day laborer on a farm because that's he had to fucking eat.

Even though he is going to go on and change the world, he still has to fucking eat. And no one's giving him enough money. People are giving him money to start his newspaper back up or giving them money to start their newspaper back up. And I know you said that it's illegal for him to write. Is it illegal for people to read? It is illegal for him to get it into Mexico. Fortunately, there's a lot of people who don't care about the law. Rad. So they print it in the United States.

And then kind of some of the bravest and people taking the most risks. And I'm not sure there's every level of risk people are taking in this story. One of the crazy brave things that people do is smuggle them back in. A lot of it is like the train union, right? They'll be like, oh yeah, just put it on my train. I'll take it in. And so it actually kind of cool, like not everyone who's going to be involved in the social struggle. It's mostly a

a peasant and proletarian struggle, not everyone's literate, but someone on your like work crew probably is. So someone is going around and going to every fucking hacienda and passing out Regeneracion, right? And then one person who knows how to read is getting up and reading it to everyone else, which is absolutely something that people died doing. Incredible. Yeah. There's like something about the fact that the written word can actually change the world, but it's not...

It changes the world because people use it, you know? Like, and people do this other work. And everyone is part of it. Anyway, whatever. A lot goes on for them in the U.S. This easily could have been a four-parter or more. I want to focus a bit less on the liberal leaders in exile than what the Maganistas themselves besides McGonagall are doing. So to fast forward the liberal leaders in Texas...

They have a lot of arguments about being moderate or radical, liberal or anarchist. They're working tirelessly for revolution. They fight off assassins. They get arrested for fighting off their own assassin at one point. They move from Texas to St. Louis to get away from the assassins. Then they have to move to Toronto and Montreal because the US government is after them. Then the Canadian government's like, we're going to fucking get you. So then they go back to Los Angeles. The presidents and police of two countries and the fucking Pinkertons are hunting them.

And this is like early 1900s. So they're taking like slow ass trains. Yeah. Jesus. It's over and over again. They're like, Ricardo, while he's living in Montreal, is in a meeting in El Paso. And like, okay, that's really far. Yeah. And-

They form an organization called the PLM, the Partido Liberal Mexico, the Mexican Liberal Party. In 1906, they release a platform, which is basically that they're saying like, hey, this is the plan, right? This is what we're going to do when we overthrow this fuck. And this is a compromise position. It is a compromise position between the radicals and the moderates. And really interestingly, and I think importantly, it wasn't

the Magan brothers or anyone else sitting down and going, this is what I want. They actually like corresponded illegally with like thousands of people in Mexico. They were getting hundreds of letters a day. The U.S. mail confiscated over 4,000 letters in the end, right? But like, and they basically were like, what do you want, right? This is a democratic thing, right? What is our revolutionary program?

and they put it all together into one document. And it, as far as I can tell, came out of the will of the Mexican revolutionary folks. This is often seen as the most important document in Mexican revolution. There we go with the superlatives. The books I read said it was the most important document in Mexico revolution. And basically all the watered down liberal reformers who come after pick and choose pieces of it ever since

The Magan brothers go the opposite way and decide this is not radical enough. The current Mexican constitution borrows heavily from this document because the leader of the group that drafted the 1917 constitution had actually started his work writing as a Maganista. Which is just like if you imagine like the founding fathers were all like actually radical, you know? Yeah.

Okay, this document, it wanted to curb the powers of the executive branch. It wanted to limit presidency to four years with no possibility of reelection, which has been a big issue for like almost 100 years at this point.

No more military tribunals. No more compulsory military service. Replace prisons with agricultural penal colonies. No more death penalty. Women are equal to men in all regards. Free and universal secular education for children. Free speech. Free press. Eight-hour workday. Minimum wage. Pensions for every job. No child labor. Unions are encouraged. Restore the land to indigenous communities. Seize giant land holdings and distribute the land fairly among the peasants.

And Mexican citizenship is mandatory for land ownership because so much of Mexico was owned by foreign business investments. It sounds great. It was. It had one fatal flaw. What's that? The fatal flaw that afflicts the 19th and early 20th century labor union almost everywhere you look. Sophie's giving me the look because it came up in the last fucking episode we did about Irish miners. Racism. God damn it.

This differs wildly from the Magonistas and the PLMs later politics and likely Magon's politics at the time. But he also puts it in. So I'm not... Well, he, the party puts it in. It calls to bar Chinese immigration because Chinese workers work for less money than Mexican workers or whatever. This is the like fucking lie that gets told to workers everywhere.

God damn everywhere. How about get everyone fair wages? Yeah. I mean, it's like the UPS workers, how they might go on strike for part-timers. Like, that's awesome. Yeah. You don't need to be racist. Everyone should just be able to live. Yeah. I know it's crazy, but... Whoa, I don't know about all that. Yeah.

Later, Magan and the PLM and stuff write about how fucked up this is. The workers' movement knows no borders and no nationality and is basically trying to move away from a nationalism that had infused the liberal movement, but it is absolutely there at the time. The same year, in 1906, a new wave of uprisings starts, and this particularly starts among miners in the border towns. The miners had it really fucking bad. They were paid in pesos but forced to buy things in dollars.

The workers were Mexican. Their bosses were Estado and Adensis, like from the U.S. I hate that there's no English word for this besides American, which fucking sucks. Everywhere else in the Western Hemisphere has a word for this for us, which makes sense. Maybe we can just use Yankee. That's the word that... Ringo? Yeah. I mean, that means foreigner. Yeah.

I wonder, I literally just don't know. I wonder, you know, in the US, I mostly run across gringo having the connotation of specifically white foreigner. But also this is absolutely true in this case, right? It is not just that the people are from the United States, but there are white people from the United States. Yeah, the miners are literally not getting paid enough to survive. They go into debt into the company store. They're literally like buying shit with money that has like their boss's face printed on it.

Cool. Yeah. Fun. Wouldn't that be so much fun? It'd be like fun money, you know? Oh my God. Yeah. It's like, you know, just get a box of Monopoly and turn it upside down and say, all right, try to buy things with this. Yeah. Like I get paid in dragon bucks now, but it has Anderson on it. So I feel good about it. Thanks, ID. Yeah. When they die, their children inherit their debt. Cool. Yeah. Fun.

Yeah. Debt slavery is like actually a thing. It's different than chattel slavery, but it's fucking real. So they go on strike. It's likely that the PLM and also a radical anti-racist US miners union called the Western Federation of Miners helped get this strike going. But they all like, everyone's either like taking credit or denying that they had anything to do with the strike, right? Depending on whether, how they want to look. So some folks say it was a wildcat strike.

Either way, the people who did it were the workers, whether they were organized from outside or not. On June 1st, 1906, 2,000 workers go on strike. The boss, whose money is on their paper, is a rare bad Quaker on this show. Quakers are usually cool. Usually the Quakers come in hard. Yeah. Yeah. Especially during abolition in the U.S. times. I guess. Some of the only white people doing any fucking good. This particular guy...

happen to be quaker and happen to be a piece of shit so he was like but he was very like hey like i pay you better than anyone else which is like true but it's still not enough to eat you know um and also he's friends with diaz so he's able to skirt even more labor laws than the other people are and diaz is still in power yeah diaz is still in power until 1910 1911 and so he asks yeah because he's been in power for 30 fucking years at this point so he's like i'm cool i'm

I'll just show up and everyone will listen to me. And so he's like, hey, could you give me your demands in writing? And so they sit there and they write down their demands in writing. He takes them and then he politely writes them back a letter refusing every single one of their demands. And in the meantime, cool boss has gone to the local stores and bought every single gun and given them to all the white people working for him. All the managers. What a quaker. That's just like every quaker would. I know. So the workers stage a walkout. A white manager starts shooting at them.

kills three miners so they stab him to death with a candlestick that's such a slow way to die being stabbed to death with a candlestick I think it might be the holder it's like the miners go into the fucking mine I like to imagine it's the wax and thread and they're just like really going at it yeah I wouldn't fucking mind in this case the manager's brother starts shooting them okay I mean to be fair they just killed his brother but his brother just killed a bunch whatever anyway so he dies with a candlestick in the back too I feel like this is a game of Clue

And then they burn the place down. They dynamite all the company property. They've been preparing for this, actually. There's like, at some point, I think the guy, the reason the owner goes and buys the guns is they're like, someone's like, yo, dynamite's missing. That's probably bad. You know, like, yeah, you're starving everyone to death. Anyway, so they're shooting the, they, it's bad. Federal troops come in. In the end, 200 workers are dead and 20,000 people get arrested, which is a scale that I can't,

Really fathom. I don't understand how you arrest 20,000 people. Where do you put them? I don't fucking know. That's insane. Yeah. Only one of the sources I read gave the number of arrestees, so I don't have like a lower number from a different source. Either way, a shit ton. Yeah. Meanwhile, elsewhere, the Yaqui people are rebelling against the theft of their lands. And when they're arrested, they're not killed. Well, often they're killed. If they're not killed, they're sent to labor plantations in the jungles far from their homes.

And so the PLM, they're getting fucking ready for revolution. They've got 40 to 70 cells across the country and in the borderlands. A lot of the cells are in U.S. border towns. And their plan is to start all the uprisings at once on one day, September 24th, 1906. They're coordinating all of this across the border by mail, which was not, like, frankly, that wasn't the right way to do it. Everyone figured out what they were up to.

So cells start getting raided in the U.S. and they find all the explosives and guns. Is the U.S. raiding these cells? Yeah. Like for Mexico? Yeah. U.S. police are doing it. A lot of it, the Texas Rangers are kind of like the pre-border patrol, border patrol. And they're doing a lot of it. I'm so sorry for my state. Yeah. I actually, I hold you responsible for this. It's all me. It's all on me. I'm so sorry, everyone. Yeah.

Fortunately, you weren't able to stop the rebels, especially those in Mexico. They kind of have nothing to lose, right? The people in the U.S., they're a little bit safer, right? Like the U.S. is a really shitty and racist place. Only then things are magic and fixed now. Yeah, things are good. Yeah. That's why every couple of years we have to make things fixed permanently again by having some uprisings. Yeah.

So some folks just fucking go, even though it's like been found out and they're like probably going to lose. They're like, we're fucking doing this. Insurgents in Northern Mexico apprehend the mayor of their town and the treasurer and the trash, the tax collector of Jimenez. Um, they flee when the soldiers are mobilized against them. In Veracruz, 200 rebels attack the city of, uh, Akiyakan only to be driven off. In Pajapan, they imprisoned city officials and appointed new ones. Um,

But then they ran out of ammunition and fled federal troops and so on and so on just across the country. Liberals or anarchists or whatever and indigenous folks and other people start taking officials hostage. They lose. Most of the leaders are executed. Retributions are made against indigenous villages, as we've already proven from earlier. That is like one way they do it is they just kill everyone in a town and set it on fire.

An elderly Mexico City editor of an affiliated paper was beaten to death during his arrest. So everyone gave up and Portfolio Diaz is still in power today. Or everyone kept going. In December 1906, the textile workers went back on strike because textile workers fucking love striking. The company tried to starve them out

Which, of course, wouldn't happen now. No companies would just see their union striking and be like, we care about them. They wouldn't cut all the trees in Los Angeles to try. I was just about to say. Yeah. What an insane thing to do. Like, that's just, that's just. I know. Why did they do that? Yeah. Just like, hey, let's get some bad PR for basically no reason. You want to do that? That is like, that's like a movie villain thing to do. I know.

Like a really bad movie to be like, oh, my workers are striking. Let's cut the leaves off the trees. Not just cut down, like don't even cut down the trees. Just cut all the leaves off. Yeah. It's like Disney level, villain level evil. Yes. It's like Disney knockoff. Like when those shitty like kids studios try to make like a, you know, Ratatouille knockoff or whatever. The villain's like comically bad. Which I guess makes sense that it's the...

Without their writers, it's people who make movies trying to come up with something clever to do. They're asking AI. They're like, how do we sound that to our strikers? And then chat GPT is like, cut all the leaves off. Oh my God. That's probably what happened. That's probably what happened, right? You know what else is controlled algorithmically? Tell me. The ads that people are about to listen to. Unless...

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Instead, people from all over the country send them money because people are like, no, we support the textile workers. Fuck yeah. So the owners just shut down all the factories in the area just to defeat the union. They're like, fine, no one gets anything, basically. And because they've been sent all this money, the workers are like, well, I have at least have enough to eat. So in Rio Blanco, a company store refuses to sell striking worker food.

Guys like I got money. We get money either way. Like you get money. If you just pay people a living wage, you still get money. You know, you're getting no money. I know you can still extract their surplus value. You could still get money by selling people food. You're getting no money by doing this. You are so bad at owning a business. One money or zero money. I,

I'd rather have one money if I was a ghoulish cartoon character that wants to starve workers. I would still like at least one money. Yeah. Well, in the end, the store owner gets nothing because they looted the store and burned it down. Fuck yes. Then they went and set everyone free at the local jail. Hell yeah. And so the rebels, they're Magonistas and they're not subtle. The editor of their newspaper, of the local, the textile worker newspaper said,

When we run into difficulties with management, we shall strike. And if the strike is not successful, we shall turn to dynamite and revolution. Soon that particular editor was on the run, I believe, had to move to the United States for saying that. The dictatorship freaked the fuck out about this textile thing. Men, women, and children, this is a quote, sorry, from author Hernandez Padilla.

Men, women, and children were pulled from their homes and executed in the barracks. Those able to flee were later captured and killed. Meanwhile, management at the Rio Blanco mill raised their champagne-filled glasses and in unison honored General Martinez with a toast. They celebrated the massacre. Yeah, it's a...

You're celebrating kids being slaughtered and at no point you're not like, oh, wow, am I the bad guy here? Yeah. Well, they said, are we the baddies? But then they looked at their, sorry, I don't know if I can. They were like, yeah, we're thick. We're good. Yeah. Meanwhile, in the U.S., a lot of the labor union in the U.S. is trying to support this too. The goth Irish socialist Mother Jones, she probably didn't identify as a goth. She was just a woman who wore black mourning clothes all the time. So she was a goth.

because we've always been here. Much like trans people have always been here. Goths, always been here. Mother Jones, we talked about her and her black dresses and her tough-as-fuck labor organizing in the Blair Mountain episode. She liked to cuss. She liked to hang out with real rowdy boys with revolvers. And she fights against the repression of the Magonistas in the U.S. alongside the rest of the U.S. labor movement. And she puts political pressure on governments to get rebels freed from U.S. jails.

She successfully frees at least one of the sort of the liberal editors who are in the US who are writing, not Magan, but another one. She goes on a speaking tour around the country about the struggle of the PLM. Labor unions raise thousands of dollars. The minor unions in particular are supportive since many of their members are Mexican or Mexican-American themselves. And basically there's just dozens of groups all over the US working to support the PLM. They keep trying to catch Ricardo Flores Magan.

I was about to say you can't catch him, but he gets caught like 18 times in his life. But they fail a lot, too. He keeps escaping out windows and shit. Because he's pretty sure if they catch him at this point, he's 100% going to Mexico and getting executed. He has a $20,000 bounty on his head. There are scores of private detectives after him from multiple agencies. So he flees from Los Angeles by resorting to the old standby. He dresses as a woman and moves to San Francisco.

Yeah. The real question is whether he kept the mustache when he did that or not. I hope to God he did. It's an impressive mustache. It is. It is. He doesn't stop organizing while on the run. I don't know what happened with his family at this point. He has a common-law wife at this point, and they agreed upon...

Basically, they're both anarchists and they both believe in the sort of anarchist feminist principle at the time of being against the formal institution of marriage. So they're common law married and he adopts her daughter as his own and they stay tight the rest of his life, which is like a good turn...

Usually when we have like a self-obsessed man who's like grouchy when he doesn't get his way and is like a radical, he's also just like a misogynist piece of shit, right? Magan, Ricardo Flores Magan is like interesting. He clearly believes and writes in a lot of feminist principles. And one of the things that I ran across at one point was that the other like bro-y guys he's hanging out with won't crack certain jokes around him. And it doesn't quite say what jokes, but I think it's misogynist jokes that he's like won't fucking put up with. So he's like...

mostly really he is better than everyone else around him who are men but he also like is some of his earlier a lot of his articles are like women should support the revolution by supporting their men or whatever at various points like really boring shit too at various points

So, whatever. But usually I talk about these people and then they're like wife and kids fucking hate them because they're like, these people treat me like shit. He, his wife and his daughter like him and help fight for him. Oh, they both like him. Like, they don't just, I really love like a curmudgeon who is a wife guy, you know? Like, he hates everyone except like three people. That's like a

an archetype i really enjoy yeah um and i'm glad that you know he has a wife and daughter who love him yeah i yeah at least tolerate him and speak positively yeah and like actively like fight campaign to get him out of jail multiple times choose to continue to live with him have no legal bounds to him and continue to do all of these things you know like yeah so the maganistas

They decide they're going to try their 1906 plan again, only in 1908. They don't really actually change that much about the plan. Do they still do it by mail? Yeah, that's the problem. Guys. There is more time for more people to get armed and organized, and their messaging is getting less subtle and more radical. They're basically like, well, okay, here's a quote. We do not fight for abstractions, but for material realities. We want land for everyone, for everyone bred.

Insofar as blood must necessarily flow, it will be so that the conquest we secure will benefit everyone and not just a certain social caste. Magan can't lead this one. He's back in jail. He's lost track of why he gets arrested in 1907, but he gets arrested in 1907. He isn't freed next, freed until 1910. He keeps trying to be in charge from jail, but basically people are doing it without him. And

I don't know. There's still a Flores Magan involved Enrique is throwing down and running papers.

Ricardo is writing fiery shit in prison, which he's really fucking good at. I think he's better at that than he is running things, honestly. And the way he gets his stuff that he writes in prison out is that he sews paper into his underwear and then passes it on to his lawyers to smuggle out. And the 1908 uprising was more organized than the previous one. There are 60 groups in the U.S. and Mexico. They're planning action. They divide Mexico into five different parts where they make sure that everywhere gets hit.

Each group develops its own plan of attack and gathers its own weapon and fighters, but delegates carry message. Actually, huh? I'm like, oh yeah, it's totally by mail. But now I'm reading this and I'm like, I think maybe it wasn't as much by mail, possibly because McGon was in jail. Because you have delegates going, carrying messages between groups and giving talks. Basically like, they're like going around giving talks being like, hey, we're gonna have a revolution next month. Y'all should do it. Come hang. Yeah. We'll send the addy.

And one of the things that they do is they actually write two groups and one of it works really well and one of it works really badly. They write to all of the indigenous allies that they've like worked with and all of the other and basically are like, hey, y'all down. We're going to fucking overthrow this government. You want to help overthrow this government? We'll make sure everything goes good. And that went really well. They also sent letters to all the army members.

of Mexico and we're like, hey, we're like of the people. You're probably a conscript. We're actually fighting for good shit. You should come join us. This mostly just leads to like really easy infiltration because someone like a bunch of officers show up and like, oh, yeah, we're like totally like with you. What's the plan again? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Several cells get busted this way. As many as like last time or fewer?

I'm not sure. More uprisings do happen, but I don't know the percent of people who get busted ahead of time. I only read about one particular bust ahead of time, so I'm actually guessing fewer, but I'm not sure. Awesome. One of the letters Ricardo had smuggled out was to his brother, and it explained...

Okay, so they're moving more from liberal to anarchist at this point, right? Overall, both in terms of their ideology and their strategy, but not what they're saying. They are still the liberal party, right? And Ricardo smuggles out a letter that basically says the revolution has to be anarchist in nature. And he's like, the reason is because revolutions are always betrayed by leaders and bourgeois pressures that co-opt and corrupt the will of the people, which happens in the 1910 revolution. So he's right about that.

But then he says they should still call themselves liberals and just act like anarchists and state their aims, which were anarchist, but they should disguise their like true goal. Right. This gets argued about, about whether or not this worked for them. Uh, some people are like the reason it worked as well as it did is because of this. Other people are like,

It actually kind of fucked them up because it forestalled a bunch of rifts that were going to happen. And so then instead the rifts happened during like a worse time, right? And it underestimated the radical will of the revolutionaries. I don't fucking know. I don't know what was right here. I have an honesty thing where I think you should just be about what you're about. But I also have a thing where being ideologically stubborn doesn't necessarily make anyone...

good. And some people don't know that they actually identify with a different ideology because the word's scary. Yeah, absolutely. And it's been decades since there was like an anarchist tradition in Mexico of large size and things like that, you know? Right. Yeah. I don't fucking know. They did what they did. So in 1908, both sides are getting ready. When you go around and give talks like we're going to have a revolution on the following day, it's not a good way to

keep things undercover, right? Troops are stationed on the border. Political officials go into hiding. This is like such a good winning moment. Like even if you fail at your shit, if everyone was like, oh, fuck. It's like when Trump had to go hide in his bunker. You know? Yeah. The northern states go under martial law and hundreds of PLM activists are arrested and murdered.

The U.S. hates them too. They absolutely threaten U.S. interests in Mexico and even U.S. interests at home. Basically, the fear is that if Mexico turns into a worker's paradise, it'll stop exporting cheap labor. So one of the very first things that the precursor to the FBI, the Bureau of Investigation, one of the very first things they do in their history is attack the PLM, like go after the PLM, keep track of them, try and bring down their leaders, all of that stuff. The El Paso cell was the main one I know about getting raided in particular. It was

It was 200 to 800 people. But this one didn't get caught by any other means except their neighbors were like, yo, these people have a lot of crates and shit in their yard. It's kind of weird.

So they called the cops. Some NIMBY shit. Yeah. So the NIMBYs brought down... I mean, the NIMBYs probably proud as shit of themselves because they find bombs and guns and maps to all the banks in the town in northern Mexico where they're going to go. No one likes a snitch. Yeah. Come on, guys. Yeah. So once again, the repression mostly works but doesn't at the same time.

uh in viesca 200 plm fighters women and men rose up they take over the palace they bomb the house of the district boss district bosses are these like the political cronies of diaz who oversee all of the different things in a region right they're like just like the fucking symbol of corruption um they go and they free all the prisoners in the jail they take over the town and they set up their platform which is the anarchism disguised as liberalism

They march off to the next town. They're scattered by federal troops. In Akyukan, a city in Southeast Mexico, the PLM did the same thing. They empty a jail. They declare the liberal program and that the dictatorship was dead. There's only one exchange of gunfire in this particular time with some cops. One revolutionary was injured. One cop was killed. In the end, they're dispersed. One fight near the border.

So one of the other things, I kind of cut through it in the fast forwarding when they were like hanging out in the US. They make friends with the IWW, the Industrial Workers of the World, who are like, if you end up doing shows about the US in the 1910s and 20s, you're going to like the IWW because they're fucking everywhere and they're doing everything cool. They are like the ones who just like

put a nail in, well, okay, other people became racist with labor unions later, but they were the ones who were like, fuck racist labor organizing. That is some fucking bullshit. And like really actively worked with a lot of different immigrant communities and not just ethnic whites like previous. Anyway, whatever. I like them.

they're a big part of they're like thrown down with the Magonistas left and right and they're like alright we'll fucking help you invade Mexico whatever like it's all part of the same struggle right and this I think that they were in this one border town because um uh I think it's Las Vacas but I don't remember I didn't write into the fucking script I think the IWW threw down because one poet later describing it talks about a blonde guy who's fighting for the anarchists who takes a bullet in the thigh the shin and the shoulder and keeps fighting that's hot yeah um

you know, makes me happy for the international solidarity and the guy who takes three bullets and is just like, you fucker, I'm Aragorn. You can't fucking stop me. He's like, go on, dude. Yeah. Good for you, dude. Yeah. He's like yelling in German. He's like, what the fuck? And everywhere they did this, people took note of the fact that these rebels, compared to a lot of other rebels in history that they were all pretty used to, they didn't rob or steal.

And so they had the people's support. They would, I mean, they would like, I think they would rob banks, right? But they wouldn't like take money from people. This all, there's more fighting overall the uprising. It fails and no small part because the Pinkertons in the U.S. government doing all their investigations and shit. So I think 1909, shortly after this, there's one indigenous Mayo guy. His name is Fernando Palomares.

And he's like, well, we have a problem. Why don't we go for the most direct solution that we can think of for the problem of this dictator? So he waited for Porforio Diaz to give a public appearance, and then he shot him. But... Oh, yeah, we know how he dies. I know. He was wearing a bulletproof vest. They had those in, like, 1920? Apparently. Ridiculous. I know. And...

The crowd had the assassins back and this is the first time whenever in the show someone like goes up and tries to kill a czar or whatever, the crowd is like, fuck you and tries to kill the assassin, right? Now people fucking hate Diaz. The crowd who was there to see Diaz speak help his would-be assassin get away safely. That's so embarrassing for him. I know. I know. It's kind of just like it was a draw, you know? Like both people got away. Yeah.

And in 1910, Ricardo gets out of prison alongside a bunch of other PLM folks in, I think, Los Angeles. And they are met with crowds throwing flowers and cheering. And so he's Ricardo Flores Magan, so he immediately just goes back to chain smoking and sitting over a typewriter. Regeneracion is becoming internationalist. They now have an English language page. It's eventually...

And it's funny because like the Spanish language part of it for a long time, eventually it balances out for a long time. The Spanish language part is like, we're going to fucking overthrow this shit. We're going to redistribute the lands. There's going to be full fucking socialism is going to fucking rule. And the English paper is like us good liberals wish to see more democracy in Mexico, your neighbor. Um,

But then it's crazy that like he had flowers thrown at him and shit in like L.A. And I've never heard of this guy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like he had this much investment in like U.S. labor movements. Yeah. U.S. labor movements and U.S. and Mexican-American rights, which is later what he ends up fighting for a lot, too. And yeah, no, is people are bad at memory, which is why if they take these. Do we sell memory pills, Sophie? Yeah.

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Later, he passes on this slogan to Emiliano Zapata and it becomes one of the main slogans of the Mexican Revolution. But more importantly than newspapers and slogans, there's now a revolution. It's full scale. It's in Mexico. There's a guy named Madero who could have been in this story like eight times earlier, but I kept cutting him out because eventually I'm going to do a Mexican Revolution episode and he'll be all over it as the almost good guy, but kind of not.

He used to support McGahn when McGahn was more of a liberal, but now McGahn's gone further to the left and Madero has gone further to center. Madero ran for president in 1910. He was arrested. He lost a rigged election. So he escaped from prison, goes to the US, calls for a revolution. And basically, he actually wants the liberal reforms in kind of a century way, but he's pretty genuine about what he wants.

Madero writes the anarchists begging for their support, and Magan responds by writing an essay, like publishing an essay titled, Madero is a traitor to the cause of liberty. We are now entering Magan's curmudgeonly fuck stage, where he is mad that no one is as radical as him now that the revolution is happening. Which, fair. I mean, he fucking, him and his friends laid the groundwork and then saw it

not be what it could have been. But the PLM, which is more and more openly anarchist, they don't just sit the Mexican Revolution out. The Mexican Revolution fought by several different armies working more or less on the same side, but like not. And actually they end up in fighting each other. It's a whole fucking thing.

So the PLM is like, all right, well, our big thing is that we invade Mexico from Texas and then try and set everyone free. So they play to their strengths and they try to invade Chihuahua, the state in northern Mexico. Just to get a sense of when I say land distribution was unequal in Mexico during this time, the governor of Chihuahua was a banker who personally owned 2 million acres of land. He also owned the main bank in the area. His family...

owned 70 million acres. They're, just for a sense of scale, because that's a number that just doesn't make any sense to me. There are only seven states in the U.S. with more than 70 million acres total. Like, this is like if, I don't know, one guy owned Nevada. Wow. Which is about 70. That's too much for one guy to own. I don't think he's going to use it. I don't think he's going to use it all. I just don't think you can...

use 70 million acres. And I know that's controversial, but I really think that. Can you imagine that water bill? Especially if it's Nevada. Right? Dear Lord. Jesus. Yeah, you'd have an army instead. Okay. Also, this extended family owns the railroads, the mines, the mills, the sugar refineries, the breweries, the granaries, the meatpacking plants, and telephone companies of Chihuahua. Cool. So, crony state, right? Yeah.

So the PLM is like, all right, we're going to invade Chihuahua, set everyone free. But they're already past their prime at this point. 1908, they don't recover from it. Hundreds or thousands of them have been murdered already. Their leadership or anti-leadership or whatever was still in exile. Magan never comes to the front. He stays in the U.S. coordinating and writing. I don't think this was cowardice because nothing he can do is safe, right?

But I don't know. The best I read was basically people were like, he didn't fancy himself a general or like a revolutionary leader, right? But a lot of people are like, if he had showed up, the people who are following his ideas would have probably, probably more people would have fought. Whatever. Maybe if he had led it all, it all would have gone horribly bad because he's not a fucking general. The PLM march on Chihuahua. They're coming from Texas. Their military leader at this point is a guy named Guillermo.

who had been writing for Regeneracion as far as I can. And he's might be the actual source of the quote. It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. It gets attributed to Zapata, but Guillermo wrote an essay under that name before Zapata even really came on the scene. Later FDR uses this quote. It might just come from an ancient Greek anyway. I really have always liked this quote. So that's why I'm like, got really excited about trying to source it.

One time, Guero, when U.S. cops tried to arrest him, he escaped out his bedroom window on a rope made out of sheets tied together. And I love how much weird fucking wacky shit actually happens in history. Some cartoon shit. I love it. Yeah. So they invade. They commandeer trains. They blow up bridges. They recruit soldiers as they go. They go and they liberate towns. The residents join their cause. When I say invade, it's like worth pointing out that it's like the people who live in Chihuahua are happy about this. The only people who are unhappy about it are the people who control it. Right? Yeah.

And the Federal Army counterattacks, and they drive the PLM out. And Guero is killed. He dies on his feet rather than living on his knees. I really liked him. Me too. The PLM failed. So then they did the last militant thing they did. They tried to take over Baja, California. They picked it because it's sparsely populated and almost all the industry was owned by foreign assholes.

The goal was to turn it into a libertarian socialist region with equal access to the means of production, redistribute all the land to the peasants, all that good stuff. Over the course of four months, the Mexican anarchists alongside the Tarahuma people, Italian and Spanish anarchists, some soldiers of fortune who turned out to be really shitty, like just bad people, and comrades from the IWW in the U.S. who don't suck, they take control first of Mexicali, Los Aguadanos, Tecate, and Tijuana, one after the other.

And they institute libertarian socialism. And they're like, to each according to their ability, from each according to their ability, to each according to need. But they're defeated. And they're defeated because at this point, Madero has taken over. Like, Madero wins, Aus Diaz. And one of the first things that Madero does is he puts down the PLM. And he's like, I can't take my revolutionary army, my usual, the one that just won me the revolution, down.

Because they like the PLM. And if I take them, they'll probably all switch sides on me. So instead, he uses the federal troops. Like the army he just beat. He takes them. He marches up to Baja, California. And he puts down the rebellious workers in Baja, California who are trying to live free. He's supported by the U.S. government when he does this. And this is like one of the most common tropes I've ever run across in history. A bunch of like actually radical folks and anarchists and peasants and workers run to the front lines and start the revolution. And then they're like,

Then more moderate forces conspire with literally their ostensible enemy to put them down. And they use the same excuse that they always use. They call the PLM bandits. This is why I don't like Madero. This is why Magan doesn't like Madero. Madero goes on. The recuperation of the PLM starts immediately. Madero goes on to claim that he was working outside with, sorry, that he was working with the PLM. At one point, he spreads a rumor that Magan is his vice president.

And he does this, it wins over a ton of the PLM fighters who come and join his armies, right? And this is where having waited to show your hand about being a radical kind of fucks Magan and the Maganistas and the PLM over. Because he had waited so long to make it clear the difference between the PLM and the moderates, people had no reason to doubt Madero when Madero was like, oh, no, they're with us. Because they don't have a way of knowing that they just all got murdered by Madero. Yeah.

The moderate sides of the U.S. This is kind of the sad part of the story where it all goes to shit. That always happens on cool people who did cool stuff. Every story is a tragedy if you don't know when to stop telling it. The moderate part of the U.S. labor movement, they take Madero's side in the split. Mother Jones calls Magan a fanatic and drops her support because he won't play nice with Madero.

And she's right that he was a zealot, right? And at this point, he is casting aside everyone who disagrees with him. He is moody as fuck. He demands that he gets his way. The revolution slips away from him, and he lashes out at friend after friend, and he pushes them away. At one point, I think after this, he ends up even pushing away his remaining brothers, or both his brothers. It's probably for the best that he was a zealot for an anti-authoritarian cause.

Because that kind of zealotry cannot just negatively impact a movement. His did. His absolutely negatively impacted the movement. But it can also cause people with power to kill everyone they disagree with. And he never did that. He cast people aside, but he did not do what almost every other revolutionary leader does at this stage, right?

Only the syndicalist IWW and the anarchists in the U.S. labor movement and the anarchists in Mexico support the PLM still. Most of them are still pretty fucking mad at Magan because he stayed in the U.S. the whole time, right? And he wasn't like in the shit. The Mexican revolution continued, but today's the story of the Maganistas. And to close up on Magan himself, he was arrested again, then he was set free, then he was arrested again.

once when he was out, the sort of revolutionary government of Mexico, because like Madero gets killed and then someone else comes in power and then someone else comes in power or whatever. The sort of revolutionary government of Mexico was like, look, you did a lot. Do you want a pension? You can come back to Mexico and we'll take care of you. Magana's too fucking stubborn. Or maybe too principled. Depends on how you look at it. His quote is,

Thanks, but no. All money the state has was stolen from the workers. He says that the money will only burn my hands and fill my heart with remorse. Okay, good point. Yeah. And he gets a few years of peace. He and his wife and his daughter, as well as his brother Enrique and a bunch of other anarchists and several other families, they buy like five or six acres in Los Angeles and they farm.

And they're like poor as shit. They scraped together enough money for like a shitty printing press. They put Regeneracion back in, but there's like no one buying it anymore. PLM's fucking over. But he...

He writes plays. He writes children's stories. He travels around speaking about the Mexican Revolution and anarchism. He writes articles decrying the treatment of Mexican Americans at the border. He also prophetically warns that without internationalist revolution, U.S. industry is going to move to Mexico, destroy the economy in Mexico, forcing immigrants from Mexico into the U.S. Hit that one on the head. Yeah. And soon enough, he goes back to prison again. This time he goes back to prison again.

For suggesting that workers should refuse to fight the first world war he's caught up in the first red scare basically in the United States The US was like look if you say you're sorry pardon you but this is fucking McGon His mother died without him there because she refused to ask him to say he was sorry. He is sick of shit with diabetes He's like near blind and he writes and this is one of the last things he writes repentance

I have not exploited the sweat, anguish, fatigue, and labor of others. I have not oppressed a single soul. I have nothing to repent for. My life has been lived without my having any wealth, power, or glory when I could have gotten these three things very easily. But I do not regret it. Wealth, power, and glory are only won by trampling others' rights. My conscience is at peace, for it knows that under my convict's garb beats an honest heart. He fucking goes hard. Yeah.

He was found dead in his cell on November 20th, 1922 in Fort Leavenworth Prison in Kansas at 48 years old. He was very sick. Most of the anarchists at the time believed he was murdered. One of his friends in the prison heard a struggle and there were bruises around his neck. One PLM supporter in prison said that a guard had killed Magan and then the person who said that was killed by seven guards. So he was either murdered by a guard or he was murdered by medical neglect.

Either way, I think Magan was murdered. That might be what I read in the Britannica entry. Yeah. You didn't want to spoil it. Uh-huh. His wife Maria lives another 26 years. She organized peasants to her last days. She dies in poverty because she too refused a pension in her dead husband's name. Mexico's like, yo, you were Magan's wife. You want a pension? She's like,

She wasn't the like stuck with, she wasn't like stuck with him. She was with him, you know, she was of the same sort as him, as far as I can tell. Yeah. Cloth. And yeah, now Magan is remembered. He gets remembered by the new government as the forebearer of the revolution, which you maybe would have hated, but actually it's, it's his brother Enrique who does a lot of the fighting to make sure that his memory and the influence he had and the legacy of the PLM stays alive.

In 1920, the tenant farmer movement in Veracruz started putting on Magan's plays. Maganistas stayed involved in social struggle, right? They were involved in the campesino movement. They added revolutionary syndicalism to the mix in the workers' movement. In 1937, Regeneracion went back into production, and soon it was run by Federacion Anarquista Mexicana. The ideas and action informed not just the anarchist movement, but all the leftist and peasant movements in Mexico.

Notably, it informed the Zapatistas, the indigenous uprising in Chiapas, who I will cover one of these days. It's been on top of the list since the beginning, but I just want to do it right. One of the towns in their territory, I think... No, actually, I think there's more than one town. There's a town in Chiapas, I believe, called Ricardo Flores Magón. I believe that the town that he was born in, I didn't write this in the scripts, I don't remember all of it, they changed the name from something something to something Flores Magón. And

Ricardo Flores Magon's great-great-nephew runs a museum dedicated to the Magonistas in Mexico City. And while they're a little bit buried, they'll never be completely. Yay! That's the Magonistas. That was, in fact, a cool person who did cool stuff. Yeah. I got so worried when, like, it's always, like, halfway into the research that I find out someone was, like,

a real fucking grouch right and i'm like like i was like three quarters the way through uh one of the books i read about this before they were like oh and his wife maria and i'm like the fuck that's that didn't come up earlier that's not worth telling me about you know you're like so what's his relationship to his wife right and like you know and and i don't know all of it right but that's my best inference is that he was a grouch he pushed people away he was a

Man, he was fucking tried and he didn't turn into the kinds of pieces of shit that a lot of people do. And I can't even imagine what it's like to just like put everything into this and then just see it work but not. Yeah. You know, but for a lot of the people who were involved in the movement, it did work. You know, it didn't work by his standards, but it did work by a lot of people's standards. Yeah. That's what I got. Cool. It's a great story. Thanks. Thanks, Margaret. Yeah.

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That's fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah. But it doesn't feel as like elite because there's actually, it's like Margaret dot BKSK. Yeah. And also there's no, right now I'm following you. Oh, great. There's no video. Like they don't even have embedding and all these places are just doing it like half-assed. Yeah. Yeah. What are they thinking? But yeah, I'm trying to write more on Substack and you can also follow Sophie around town. Yeah.

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