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12 the 三体 opinions you never asked for

2024/3/31
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主播:我认为刘慈欣的审美和女性主义意识是作品中一些不足之处,但这些并不影响我对作品整体人文主义色彩的解读。 我认为《三体》并非一部旨在解决人类社会问题的作品,而是一部关于宇宙尺度和文明尺度困境的探讨。即使在宇宙尺度下,我也并不认为该作品推崇‘生存是最高指示’的价值观。 《三体》不应被解读为人类政治的隐喻,因为其前提在人类社会中并不成立。作品中的人物行为也不能简单地套用人类社会的道德标准进行评价,例如张北海等人物的描写并非负面评价,而是展现了人物内心的复杂性。 作品中人物的道德选择并非一成不变,而是处于不断的变化和犹豫之中。关于环保和科技发展的观点也并非始终一致,不能简单地将其解读为‘反环保’或‘技术至上’。 《三体》中对不同文明和价值观的呈现是多元且复杂的,不能简单地将其归结为某种单一的政治立场。将《三体》简单地套用在现实社会中进行政治解读,与科幻作品的性质相悖。 《三体》中展现的道德观是随着时间和地点变化的,并非绝对和一成不变。即使在宇宙图景下,《三体》也并非将‘生存’作为文明的终极价值,‘不要给文明以岁月,要给岁月以文明’体现了人文主义色彩。 作品中的人物行为并非抽象概念的执行,而是展现了人的局限性和复杂性。《三体》并不将文明的延续作为必然具有价值的事情。刘慈欣的作品并非反人文主义,例如《诗云》就展现了对科技文明的批判性思考。 刘慈欣的作品中体现了他对反科学、内向文明和爱民精英被坏人所害等现象的批判态度。 《三体》与《流浪地球》等主旋律作品在价值观表达上有所不同,前者更为多元复杂。《三体》不应被简单地视为政治立场的表达工具。

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Why does the speaker argue that 'The Three-Body Problem' should not be interpreted as a political metaphor?

The speaker believes that 'The Three-Body Problem' is primarily about exploring dilemmas on a cosmic and civilizational scale, not human political issues. Applying its theories to human politics distorts the original assumptions and leads to shallow interpretations. The novel's focus on cosmic sociology and the 'chain of suspicion' does not translate directly to human society, where cultural and ecological interdependence mitigates such extreme scenarios.

What is the speaker's view on the portrayal of survival as the ultimate value in 'The Three-Body Problem'?

The speaker disagrees with the notion that survival is the ultimate value in 'The Three-Body Problem.' They argue that the novel does not advocate for 'surviving at all costs' as the highest goal. Instead, the novel emphasizes the importance of living meaningfully within a limited time, as reflected in the phrase 'Do not give civilization to time, but give time to civilization.' This suggests that the quality of life and the flourishing of culture are more important than mere survival.

How does the speaker critique Liu Cixin's portrayal of female characters in 'The Three-Body Problem'?

The speaker criticizes Liu Cixin's portrayal of female characters as lacking depth and often being objectified or reduced to stereotypes. They highlight instances of sexism and misogyny in the text, such as male characters making inappropriate comments about female characters' appearances. The speaker also points out that the novel's treatment of femininity is often negative, associating it with weakness or lack of deterrence, which reflects a broader issue with gender representation in the work.

What does the speaker think about the moral complexity of characters like Zhang Beihai in 'The Three-Body Problem'?

The speaker appreciates the moral complexity of characters like Zhang Beihai, who are not purely ruthless but show moments of hesitation and humanity. Zhang Beihai's decision to spare others, despite being a 'hardened' character, is seen as a feature rather than a flaw. This complexity adds depth to the narrative and challenges the idea that the novel endorses a purely survivalist or utilitarian morality.

How does the speaker interpret the phrase 'Do not give civilization to time, but give time to civilization' in 'The Three-Body Problem'?

The speaker interprets this phrase as a call to focus on the quality of life and cultural flourishing within a limited time, rather than merely extending the lifespan of civilization at any cost. This reflects a humanistic perspective that values meaningful existence over sheer survival. The phrase is seen as a critique of the idea that civilization should prioritize longevity over the well-being of its people.

What is the speaker's opinion on the role of technology and science in 'The Three-Body Problem'?

The speaker notes that while 'The Three-Body Problem' does not advocate for blind technological supremacy, it strongly opposes anti-scientific attitudes. The novel portrays the manipulation of science by the ETO as a grave threat, leading to widespread distrust and suicide. Liu Cixin's work emphasizes the importance of scientific progress while also critiquing the misuse of technology and the dangers of abandoning scientific inquiry.

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本期节目将分享我对科幻小说《三体》的独特解读,包括对原著的剧透,以及一些可能不被大众接受的观点。
  • 分享对《三体》的个人观点,包括对原著的剧透和一些可能不被大众接受的观点。
  • 声明不讨论剧集改编,评价仅针对原著。
  • 表明自己是刘慈欣和三体的拥护者,并会对小说进行“洗白”。
  • 点名批评油机店,并表示对批评和反驳会保持忍耐。

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谁问我了?unsolicited, unpopular opinions on 三体 as a 人文主义作品

(2:26) 洗无可洗

(9:22) 开洗

  • (10:47) 三体不是政治隐喻

  • (32:18) 生存不是最高指示

  • (46:16) 刘慈欣动真情处, if any

(52:15) 彩蛋:幽默Read-Along

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