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Blades head to Wembley! | Blackmore announces shock retirement

2025/5/12
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David Ornstein: 作为利物浦的球迷,我认为我们应该对特伦特·亚历山大-阿诺德保持应有的尊重。尽管他选择离开,但他在球场上的表现一直很出色,我们不应该用嘘声来对待他。我们应该记住他为球队所做的一切,并以更加宽容的态度来面对他的离开。我认为利物浦球迷应该展现出他们的风度,不要让嘘声影响到球队的庆祝活动。我们应该专注于庆祝球队所取得的成就,而不是纠结于一个球员的离开。当然,每个球迷都有表达自己情感的权利,但我认为,从大局出发,我们应该以更加积极的态度来支持球队,迎接新的挑战。 Miguel Delaney: 我认为利物浦队正面临一个重要的转折点。特伦特·亚历山大-阿诺德的离开无疑给球队带来了巨大的影响,他独特的风格和在球队中的地位是难以替代的。范戴克呼吁球队进行大规模的引援,这也预示着球队即将进入一个新的时代。新教练斯洛特需要打造一支真正属于他的球队,而这需要对阵容进行彻底的调整。我认为利物浦队需要引进至少五名新球员,才能在下个赛季保持竞争力。当然,转会市场上的运作并非易事,球队需要谨慎选择,才能找到最适合球队的球员。总而言之,我认为利物浦队正面临着一个充满挑战和机遇的夏天,球队需要做出正确的选择,才能在未来继续取得成功。

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Welcome to Back Pages, bringing you everything you need to know about the biggest sports stories making the headlines in the morning's newspapers. I'm Teddy Draper and joining me are the Athletics football correspondent David Ornstein and Miguel Delaney from The Independent. Welcome to your podcast.

OK, well, let's start with the front page of the Telegraph Sports Supplement. Virgil van Dijk then speaking on the Trent Alexander-Arnold situation. Chris Baskin with the story for the Telegraph. Liverpool captain refuses to condemn jeers from the Kop. Players, quote, gutted by England defenders' decision to leave. How delicate, David, is it for the current players who are staying to ride the balance between supportive team-mate but not condemning the supporters?

It's not easy at all, but they're doing a pretty good job of it so far, judging by their public comments. This story really has taken on a life of its own. It's got a bit out of control, if you ask me. I understand all of the emotions involved on every side of the argument and do respect the various views.

But the one thing I would say is that Trent Alexander-Arnold carried himself in a pretty dignified way in the fact that he was available for selection, which not many players would be if they were heading for a free transfer exit and their future had already been announced.

And he played pretty well. He also applauded the fans in front of the Kop and around Anfield at the end. You heard Andy Robertson talking very eloquently about it afterwards. I'm sure Trent Alexander-Arnold is big and strong enough to have expected an element of what was coming and then to take...

what has come because he's made this decision for his own future and he's given his reasons in part for that and Virgil van Dijk as well and I'm sure we'll hear more from other players we saw Dominic Sobbeslie sort of gesticulating towards the Kop his frustration at the reaction of sections of the fan base but there were a lot of cheers for him as well and

I think, you know, as everybody said, it's not really our job to tell people how to feel on all of this. They can feel how they want and perfectly entitled to do so. In my opinion, you know, the Liverpool fans are above the booing. I do get the reasons that they're doing it for. But personally, I think it's worth sort of...

trying to find a bit of perspective in this so that it doesn't overshadow their title celebrations, their Premier League trophy lift and the parade that will follow the day after. Indeed, record-equalling 20th title as well. Miguel, let's go to the back page of the Star. John Cross with the story there. Bring your own booze. Van Dijk fans react how they like, but we will party with Trent. It is an important message from David there, isn't it, Miguel, about the significance of the title win, but also how...

The end of an era, perhaps, with this group of players and what Trent represented to them? Well, it's interesting, I suppose, because elsewhere, some of the headlines have focused on, rather than Van Dijk on Trent, but on Van Dijk's calls for a big summer. And I think we expect that anyway from Liverpool.

which will kind of, I suppose, foster the sense, especially with Trent Alexander-Arnold leaving, of a new cycle for the team. Now, obviously, slot replacing Klopp was the biggest change, but there has been that sense that it's still kind of Klopp's team. I know Klopp himself did ushers changes in his last few years, but it was maybe kind of a steadier proposition

or a steadier kind of evolution of the team rather than an outright overhaul. Whereas this summer, it does feel like there's going to be much more of that. And with kind of a homegrown player like Trent Alexander going, Trent Alexander-Arnold going, it just kind of deepens the idea that it's going to be a much bigger change and maybe the true beginning of the slot here, which is remarkable when he's won a title in his very first season. But we'll probably get a much more

slot team next year and of course I mean this is the other side of Trent Alexander-Arnold going I mean we've obviously focused so much on the response and off the pitch but he's so distinctive a right back and arguably unique as a player in that sense that the very idea of replacing him changes the complete gravity of the team and

Conor Bradley's a totally different style of player. I know they've been looking at Fring Palmer as well. If they do decide to bring in another right back as an option, again, he's a totally different style of player to Trent Alexander-Arnold. And yeah, it is going to...

I suppose that's part of the response as well, how jarring this feels. Interesting point, Miguel. I'm picking up on that, as you say. The transfer call may be from Virgil van Dijk for an overhaul at Liverpool. The Express has Virgil turned up the heat. Van Dijk urges Reds to spend big this summer to bolster title defence.

How big the changes could be then, David? What do you think? Because as Miguel says there, personnel, but also potentially for Arnaz Slot, without that creativity that Trent brought, you may have to rejig the rest of the team as well.

Yeah, firstly, they've transitioned into the slot era very well, despite not getting Zubamendi, who was their main target last summer. They kept their powder dry and had the courage of their convictions to go with pretty much what they had. And it's been vindicated. It was only Chiesa who came in. He's not played a role.

And now that helps them from a financial perspective. It means they've got resources to work with. And I do expect it to be a busy summer at Anfield. I think the priority is probably a striker when Darwin Nunes leaves, which is expected. A left-back, but it would probably require...

either Robertson or maybe more likely Simakas to leave. And the top of the list is Milos Kirkez of Brighton. They will have other options too. What they do there may affect what type of right back they bring in if they bring one in, because don't forget they've got Conor Bradley and Joe Gomez as options there.

I would expect Gerald Kwanzaa to leave. Frimpong, as Miguel mentions there, is very highly thought of. It's a pretty easy deal to do. It's a release clause around €35 million he wants to come. I don't think his salary is particularly high and that clause makes it quite clean as well. I don't know of other clubs really being in for him to the extent that Liverpool are.

And by the way, on Trent, you know, there's been so much conjecture around this potential move, but not all of us know exactly what's gone on behind the scenes

in his situation. And with that in mind, I think a bit of respect is needed to actually the way he's being treated because we've not been privy to anything unless we've been in those conversations. And a lot of the information that's been out there about what's been happening over the last couple of years, to my understanding, is not correct. Anyway, then into midfield, they may look to do something. If Endo leaves, I don't know. But they had the emergence of Gravenberch, which has served them so well.

And then they'll have to see what they do. Central defence, they like Dean Hoysom from Bournemouth, but they're not the only club in for him. They've got a new goalkeeper, presumably coming in in Mahmoud Ashvili from Valencia. What's going to happen with the likes of Harvey Elliott?

Luis Diaz has only got a couple of years left on his contract. Ibrahima Konate, no news on a new deal. He's approaching his final 12 months. So there's loads to do there. And that will really start to shape and define what the slot era looks like going forward as they try and defend their Premier League title and make inroads in the other competitions.

Incredible listening to David there, Miguel. Think how much flux there could be a team that's just absolutely strolled to the league, currently sitting 15 points clear. When you look at the rest of the contenders and some of the big boys who've performed so poorly this season, just wonder what kind of summer are you expecting in terms of movement?

I think it's going to be hectic. I mean, to be fair, actually, I do remember thinking at the League Cup final when Liverpool lost to Newcastle during that game, and they did look a bit fatigued. And it was almost this sense at the time, I wrote at the time, basically, it's amazing we've got from a team that a month ago seemed in such good shape and were pretty much strolling to the title. And that is simultaneously true at the same time where, sorry, that's...

you could see how this team actually still needs five players. And like sometimes that's just the way it falls or the way a team evolves in that way. But equally, yeah, I think we've spoken before about Arsenal and I think they want to do at least three major signings, one of them being Zubamendi. And obviously so much is made of a forward. City, we expect to be active again. And on top of that, of course,

given PSO and clubs concerns about that and meeting obligations a lot of executives talk about PSO or churn but you have to keep players moving just to always stay within the rules and it means we could be back to a window that is breaking records in terms of number of signings completed

Yes, it's going to be fascinating, David. What's your general read on what to expect in the summer? We've talked about the dearth of world-class strikers. Presumably they're going to be able to name their price to a whole host of suitors, aren't they? Because you just mentioned Darwin Nunez and perhaps that central position at Liverpool, let alone Arsenal, as Miguel says there.

There's an imbalance in the supply of those number nines and the demand. The demand far outweighs the supply. You're really just looking at a very small pool. Alexander Izak is a player that Mikel Arteta and Arsenal really like, so do Liverpool and I'm sure many other clubs. But

It's not realistic that they're going to get him by the looks of it because Newcastle have no intention to sell him. They don't have a financial need to do so. It looks like they'll qualify for the Champions League, so they'll be able to offer that to him. And also he's under contract until 2028. He's already on a very good salary. They'll probably look to renew that deal. So that potentially takes him out of any kind of market. And then you're looking at maybe a...

Benjamin Sesko from RB Leipzig is an expensive deal to do, very talented young player. But in the case of Arsenal, who have him on their radar and they've done a huge amount of work on him, there may be some reservations around the price point and the player. There's Victor Jokeres, who is going to be the target for many clubs. Arsenal are taking a serious look at him with their new sporting director, Andrea Berta, a big fan. And so...

Arsenal, Manchester United with Ruben Amrim, who knows and loves him so much from their time together at Sporting Lisbon. Chelsea are in the market for a new number nine.

And we're talking about the likes of Liam Dilap. So he is wanted by Manchester United, by Chelsea and various others. Hugo Ekotike, that will be a really expensive deal, of course, from Frankfurt and a young player with such talent. And beyond that is pretty slim pickings. So I'm not sure that the clubs that need that position are necessarily going to fill it with the players that they want. And therefore, they might have to start to look towards players

maybe a winger or nine and a half, as they're starting to call it, players who can sort of operate up front in the ten wide. It's going to be a fascinating summer. I think I was probably half a nine, to be fair, thinking about my football time. Let's reflect on one of those clubs in particular, I suppose, whose attractiveness is going to depend a lot on whether they're in the Champions League, Manchester United, Miguel. The stakes are high, stakes spelt like meat steaks, up in smoke, United plan B.

not bus parade if they win Europa, this in the sun. Have they read the room here? Do you think it's a smart call? I think so. I mean, like when you consider the sort of feats that United have had bus tours for in the past, sometimes not even league titles, it does feel kind of maybe appropriate that, you know,

Europa League is a little bit more subdued, especially given the context of the season. I mean, obviously they should celebrate it, but it comes at a point where it's not quite a consolation prize. They need to essentially save the season. There's an element of that kind of glory being...

compromised slightly by what's gone on. So, yeah, it does feel kind of a quieter celebration among the players feels right, especially given the fans who travel and those in Manchester will celebrate if they win it. But it's a big if right now and what feels a very 50-50 game and touching on transfers there as well. I mean, United are a club in a situation, I suppose, touching on what we're talking about, where...

They basically have to have two parallel transfer plans. One if they win the Europa League and get into the Champions League, and one if they don't. And it could really change the outlook of their summer beyond the choice of an open-top bus parade or a barbecue. And this is an interesting line regarding Manchester United, David. Back page of the Mirror, David McDonnell reporting, red man walking, boss Amarim to face Sir Jim Firing Squad in summer, even if he wins.

Europa League, saying that Manchester United will have a review of Amarillo's position regardless. What's your take on this, David? Because recently there were positive comments from Ratcliffe. Do you think it's just been so bad they will have to reconsider?

Well, the way United's domestic season has gone and the position they're in in the Premier League and their level of expectations, it would be bizarre if a club didn't review everything and that will include the manager. But I don't think United would like to make another managerial change. It would be one of the last things on their agenda and they'll probably do whatever they can to avoid it. They seem to really like Amarim and so do the vast majority of the Manchester United fans.

They like what they hear from him. They don't like what they've seen so much so far. And I think on this one, it will be more what Amorim wants to do. The soundings coming from him is that maybe he's not the right person to take them on if this is replicated next season. But,

You know, there's so much for Manchester United to do on and off the pitch, primarily in the transfer market in the immediate term, that I don't think they'll want to think about a managerial change. I think their priority will be trying to provide some players that allow Ruben Amorim to play the style of football he wants to implement to get Manchester United moving in the right direction. We have seen flashes...

of that in Europe. I thought the win at Bilbao was exceptional and they've now got a chance to win the trophy, reach the Champions League. Although he's casting doubt on whether that would be great for them at this moment in time, given where they are. Certainly the people who hold the purse strings will welcome Champions League qualification.

And I do think they will stick with Amarim, but they cannot have another repeat of this season domestically. That's unthinkable. Certainly has been very, very dreary stuff, hasn't it? The Express and Star cover Ruben Amarim's potential situation this summer as well. Ruben's still in danger if he wins the final at the Express. Star says under-review Amarim. Miguel, what's your take on it? Will it hinge on recruitment from Amarim's perspective that he can, what, get some...

Athletic wing backs and athletic midfielders. What's the key to maybe convincing him to stay that his formation can work? Well, I suppose this touches on one of the reasons actually why Liverpool

went for Slott rather than Amram over a year ago. I mean, not that it quite came down to a choice between the two, but certainly they strongly considered Amram. One of the factors there was they felt that because Amram is so wedded to a certain system, it was better to go with Slott who could fit in to what they wanted. And as we've seen, and as we've discussed today, they wouldn't need to make the signings that were required for Amram. Whereas with Amram, he's so wedded to this system, almost kind of a...

an ideologue about it something that's becoming again a little bit distinctive in the game that it does require very specific type of players to play in that so how United go into next season maybe may depend on the level of the activity they can do in the summer which of course depends on this game so it's almost

It's almost kind of, not quite a house of cards, but all of these interlinked issues that go into the next campaign, not least about maybe Amram's own comfort in the job himself. All that said, I agree with David. I'd be stunned if there was any sort of change in the summer, unless Amram got so sick of things that he wanted to move on. But even in the context of, I mean, I know there's been so much focus on the domestic league campaign. It's a bit similar with Spurs now. I think we're at the point where both of these clubs, they're so focused on Europe that...

even if it's subconscious, it's kind of natural the players drop off. Yes, it's gone to kind of almost absurd and farcical levels, but I think when seasons become kind of... It's two parallel seasons running at once. It's sort of natural in some ways. I'll come to you, Miguel, with the eye. We've talked about Ruben Amarim's position. We're fairly confident he'll probably stay in this summer. What about Postacoglu? Europa glory would transform club, but may not save me, claims Postacoglu. How do you see the Spurs managerial situation, Miguel?

I must say, I've thought for some time that although the thinking is that no matter what, Pasticaga will go, I can't get away with the idea that a little bit like Ten Hag last season, if they win it,

And given it's Spurs' first trophy since 2008, first European trophy since '84, that a bit of an emotional swirl could kind of engulf the club. And with that allied to the fact that at the moment they don't have a certain alternative, or at least anyone they really like that's very willing to come in, like say in the past where an option has been very definitively lined up.

That said, if they lose, I think it's only going one way. I was about to say there, I feel a little bit sorry for Postacoglu, given that obviously media coverage has been a theme of his season. And today he had to speak by UEFA regulations because Spurs had their media day a full nine days before the Europa League final because of the way the calendar falls. I think this is something like the fifth or sixth time he's spoken in a week. And yet for all he complains about the media, I do half think that Postacoglu actually loves getting

getting up and talking about all this and sending little messages. But yeah, he did kind of... He was in better form today. We'll see if he enjoys it, if they lose the final. Let's assume they win, though, David. Back page of The Sun. Son says, we can be inspired by his old mate, Harry. Do you agree with Miguel that the euphoria may transform everyone's take, including Daniel Levy's, on the season?

I think it's unlikely. I think the direction of travel is for Spurs to make a change in the summer, irrespective of the outcome of this match. I do take the point on the emotion and we saw what happened with Man United, although that may serve as a warning why clubs shouldn't repeat what they did.

I just think it's got so bad for Tottenham in the Premier League this season and they feel that they've invested heavily in the squad. Yeah, there are a lot of young players. Yeah, there have been injuries, but the view of the club seems to be that he hasn't got what he should have out of Tottenham.

the team this season and that's putting it politely and therefore whatever happens in this Europa League campaign I think that a new coach coming in over the summer is a very high possibility we'll obviously see what happens there's been nothing official from the club they've been so focused on

on this final. But even in Ange Postacoglu's comments, you sort of sense he knows the reality of the situation as well. But there'll be full focus on Manchester United and Bilbao, irrespective of what the weeks afterwards will hold. Hong-Win Son covered as well in the mail, Miguel. It's our turn, Harry. Matt Barlow and Chris Wheeler. Son inspired to end Spurs' drought by Kane title win.

He's maybe just past his prime Hong Min-sung, but is he key to a potentially glorious night? Yeah, I mean, I suppose for a player like him, he will have looked at his kind of former strike partner Kane finally ending all that talk about ever winning a trophy and wondering maybe kind of, you know, if you believe in omens and things like this, or even, I suppose, a sense of inspiration.

whether he can kind of, uh, um, benefit from the same effect because that can have a psychological effect in games like this. And, um, certainly it is, it has been one of the kind of wider shame is about, uh,

Tottenham's period that a player as good as Son hasn't fulfilled exactly like Kane you would think they probably should have crowned the Pochettino era say with a trophy although they were always focused on the league and Champions League and now suddenly potentially towards the end of Son's time as a Spurs player not that he's going anywhere yet but more so I suppose given he

as you say, he's maybe past his prime in that sense, that maybe he finally has that chance to get a trophy. But as I say, I think it's genuinely a 50-50 match. Excellent stuff. We'll preview that in the next week or so. Quick thoughts, David, only about 25, 30 seconds in the Guardian. Brazil confirm Ancelotti is manager in new chapter. First overseas manager. How big a story is this?

Huge. His box office, the biggest international team. I think he's going to get the highest salary in international football. He's the most decorated manager in European football. It feels a good match, despite the fact they've never had a foreign manager before. And going to the USA, Canada and Mexico next summer with Carlo Ancelotti in charge of Brazil, I think it's going to be one that we can all feast on.