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Let There Be Light - Body Electric - Cancer's Defeat with Dr. Weiping Yu and Logan Duvall

2025/6/18
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通过广播和播客,深入探讨社会、文化和宗教问题,并应用模仿理论解释人类行为。
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Dr. Weiping Yu: 我认为学科孤岛的根本原因在于我们所接受的基础教育。现代物理学的基础是错误的,基于电荷的物理学理论是错误的。永动机的概念是荒谬的,但却被整个科学界所接受。生物学和化学都基于错误的量子原理。我发现原子中没有粒子围绕原子核旋转。生物学家和化学家不理解量子力学,物理学家也不真正理解量子力学。现有的生物学和化学原理都是错误的,导致学科间无法有效沟通。 Logan Duvall: 我观察到一个非常令人反感的事情,那就是生物学和化学不是基础科学。也许我们对物理学的理解也是不正确的,生物学和化学甚至不是基础科学。科学家使用不同的术语来掩盖他们的无知。错误的科学理论阻碍了科学进步数个世纪。

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Actually, no physicists truly understand quantum mechanics at all. So what are the consequences? I try to say every biology, every chemistry, all the class, all the principles are wrong principles. So that's why they never talk and never make sense to each other. So that's why you never see people talking to each other.

They are afraid to say anything because anything is laughable. It does not make any sense. I just give you a little bit of view. So why people work on a silo? It's not because they have a super high technology intelligence. Because they don't know anything well.

Well, we're excited for our guest today on our show.

We're doing a discussion that will cross over many topics, I think, but it's going to probably be anchored in science and healing and so forth. But our guest today is Logan Duvall from the Sewing Prosperity Podcast. How are you doing, sir? I'm great, David. Thank you for the invitation. Excited to have this conversation. Yeah, and we have joining us now, if you're listening on our audio podcast, we also have our chief science advisor, Dr. Yu. How are you doing? Good.

I'm doing great. So thank you for having me on. Yeah. Dr. Yu continues to become a viral sensation everywhere you go. The whole people, they're talking about Dr. Yu's revolutionary yuan theory. So many people, we get in the comments and my God, this is the biggest truth bomb I've ever heard. Changes my life.

I don't know what to do. So Dr. Yu is really just ascending right now. But Logan, I wanted to have you on because I think you're part of this journey of investigation that we're on. You know, I saw what you're doing and I want you to tell your story a little bit because you've got a powerful story. You're on a mission to destroy cancer, aren't you?

Sure am. Yeah, that's a huge part of what I do. So I am in central Arkansas and have a farmer's market. So an outdoor grocery store that's based on farmer's markets. So building out local food systems is what I really focus on. It's the day job, so to speak.

And, um, my grandparents actually started the market and my grandfather was diagnosed with, with cancer early on. So, uh, non Hodgkin's lymphoma, he, he overcame that through conventional means and then, uh, ended up with esophageal cancer that metastasized his liver. And it was, it was brutal, right? Like the whole battle was, uh,

was very difficult, difficult on him, difficult on my grandmother, who was the caregiver. And somehow we limped along with my mother's help of having the market continue going. And so after he passed away, I moved down to join the market and help continue, you know, just trying to operate it.

Fast forward a little bit. That was 2019 or 17. 2019, my oldest was five years old and diagnosed with stage four kidney cancer. So Wilms with tumor. And so the second round of, you know, cancer shock. Right. This is after, you know, having a career in EMS, emergency medical services. And I did real estate and farm, grew up in a real rural area to where everybody did agriculture. Right.

So, uh, just couldn't understand why in the world, uh, my baby got cancer, you know? So, uh, he came to me one evening and said, dad, my pee's orange. And I was like, what? So I go into the bathroom and it's blood in the toilet. And so we, we fast forward, go through the hospital, find out that, you know, it is indeed stage four cancer. And so I remember sitting there and I was like, uh,

The doctors are going to do their part. They're going to do what they need to do. God's going to do his part, and I'm going to do mine. So what is that? What do I do? How do I understand and approach and focus on what I can control? So I just started asking the oncologists different questions, like, what do I feed him? Oh, it doesn't matter. I'm like, what?

What do you mean it doesn't matter? Then they'd try to give them soft drinks or popsicles and these different types of quote-unquote rewards for going through whatever was happening at the time. So I just began devouring books, everything that I possibly could on alternative –

cancer nutrition, what was going on. That led me down rabbit trail after rabbit trail. Actually, one of the very first books that I now don't agree with at all is actually the China study that broke out like a correlation between meat and cancer, casein protein to be specific.

And so just as I kept attempting to learn more, I decided to start creating content around it. I want to share what we were doing, why magnesium was important, why we were doing certain things with the diet, why we weren't doing certain things. And so that led me to start getting experts on, start a podcast, and it gave me a selfish reason to be able to talk to them or give them a reason to want to talk to me, give them some exposure. And so that's just led to the point to where...

I believe everything that we have been told is wrong. And the way that we need to look at that is about

180 degrees from where we are. We're very siloed in our understanding of everything, right? What physics doesn't talk to biologists doesn't talk to nephrologists, right? Like just on and on and on. Like we are very siloed in that approach. And that reasoning is why I don't think that we've cured cancer yet. And I think there's some other nefarious things going on behind the scenes, but it's decentralizing that knowledge and having these conversations and bringing things together that actually work.

It's a big deal. And I don't care necessarily why everybody is missing a piece or why they're wrong and to spend time arguing over who's wrong about this and why they're wrong. I want to grow food and cure cancer. Like, so those are the kind of conversations I have. That's wonderful. So obviously you've been doing something with your son that's helping him, right? So he's, you know, something you're making some breakthroughs there.

Yeah. So he went from stage four to cancer free in eight months. Wow. He's God. Glory to God. Amen. I homeschool. I've got four kids now. They they're outside. They're playing. And I want to get into that for sure. Yeah. The lies on the sun and eating theories and and those kind of things. What cancer is because we're wrong about cancer and in and how we can apply it to help other people.

That's wonderful. Can you tell us a little more details about how you went from stage four to cancer-free in eight months? That's a phenomenal testimony. Yeah, so we did conventional treatment, right? So he did have 16 rounds of radiation targeted. We did do chemotherapy, vincristine, doxorubicin, doctinomycin, did –

surgery, right? He had the tumor, it's cantaloupe-sized kidney tumor removed and had metastasized to some lymph nodes and then the chest wall, which was a little bit abnormal. It's typically inside the lung. So we did all that, completely started trying to embrace some of the biohacking, right? Like this is kind of what got me into the science. And Dave Asprey had a huge influence on me early on. You get that mycotoxin-free coffee?

Yeah. I mean, danger coffee is really the only one that I drink now. Right. Um, for, for that, but, but it was an introduction to like infrared light and why was red light therapy was going in, which made it easier to understand the biology, uh, that is impacted by the sun and the different light spectrums. Uh,

We did use some supplements. I'm not a huge proponent of supplements, but minerals are extremely important. We've ruined agriculture, ruined the soils, and the minerals aren't in there. So there's times where we do need to supplement, trying to get the gut microbiome line back out. One of the big keys was, and this was to Dave's credit,

I began reading studies, right? And one thing he said was, you're not going to know this at first, and it's okay to not know this. Read the study, continue listening, read it again, and then you'll pick up. And as you go through it, you'll start picking up more and more and more, because I have no formal education whatsoever. I got an EMT, right? Petroleum Technology Certificate. The...

Looking at a lot of the immunotherapies and some of these cancer treatments, they were completely dependent on the gut flora, the microbiome that was there. If certain bacteria weren't there, it didn't work. If they were there, it did work. So I asked an oncologist, 40-year veteran, okay?

What do you think about some of these studies that are coming out with it? Oh, I don't know anything about the gut microbiome. Right. And so that's where, you know, I mentioned earlier about the siloing of information of education and these fields is really at a detriment to all of us. If we're going to be an oncologist for 40 years and we don't know anything about the gut microbiome, that's a big red flag to me. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. So, so you, um, you got into the light red light. We can talk about that. Uh, so what are some of the lifestyle you said that you keep your kids outside? Do they not allowed to watch TV or screen time? Like what are the things that you think are so essential with the light question?

Yeah, the light is the question. The light is the foundation of everything that I believe. And so I like to use an analogy of a light of a water hose, okay? So we have two water hoses hooked together and we have different pressures on each side, right? If we have more pressure on one side, it pushes it.

right? If it goes to the other side. So there's this, uh, lack of a better term. I don't like the term balance necessarily because everything oscillates. But when you have too much for force on one direction, say blue light, right? We're, we're toxic with our blue light from LEDs, the phones, the computers. Uh, it's like, like my screen is actually red right here. Uh, when, when we have these different spectrums that are causing problems and we can go into what those problems are, uh,

It's harder to overcome it. So when that doesn't exist and then we have the benefits of the other hosts coming in that we're building, we're strengthening, we're doing the biological processes from these light inputs, they're working properly, we get power. So it's this oscillation between the artificial environment we live in

and the nape the natural cycle being in nature so like if we do uh watch tv and stuff we're wearing blue blocker glasses uh they are covered up because we have visual and non-visual photoreceptors right so it's not just our eyes that are getting impacted by light and so when you cover up by just wearing long sleeve you're saying like wearing long sleeve outfits and pants and stuff when they're watching tv

Absolutely. So like in the evening, if we watch movie and like we watched a movie like we watched Terminator last night, because I think AI is interesting and possibly terrifying. So we watched Terminator so that we all had our glasses on. Everybody's covered up. You know, we got some some face exposed, whatever. But you just kind of you don't have to necessarily go to the extreme of no technology whatsoever, because I think that it's vital. But you need to be smart about it. So like my kids on a phone, never. Right. They don't.

Ever. That doesn't happen. But like we do some YouTube for education, for homeschooling. We do watch some movies and things like that. So how how how do you measure how much of a difference it's making? You know, like, you know, when you take those measures of.

Some people know that blue light, they've heard it's a popular trope that blue light is bad for you. But then they stick phones in their kids' faces all the time too because they can't measure. When they're young, a lot of people, that's why they feed them seed oil nuggets and stuff like that, is they just think, I'm just...

we'll see those downstream effects when they're 50 and I'll be able to wash my hands from it when they get diagnosed with diabetes. Unfortunately, that's not, that's how a lot of parents do it. Even the ones who are a little bit aware of what's right. They, they don't care enough in the short term, as long as there's no disease manifesting right now, you know, unless you have a wake up call like what you had, I mean, they don't want to do anything. So, so how, how do you measure the differences that you've met that you've seen?

Well, I mean, it's subjective. You just look around, right? Like my kids are going to be completely different than other kids. We say, just look at what happens when you take a iPhone or an iPad away from a three-year-old. Yeah. They lose it, right? They lose it. A lot, you go to a restaurant, you see all kids are sitting there at a table on some sort of advice. It's because it's addicting. And that goes into, I would say it is the largest addiction problem we have is the blue light that is blinding.

bar none. They're addicted to the sensation of blue light, not the content almost. Right. And that's both right. It's been engineered to have, have this addiction from the content, but it's also the blue light. And this isn't even new. Like this has been laid out for since a lot of people don't know that what you just said, that blue light itself is an addicting thing.

A sensation. That's a lot of people don't know that. That's very important for people to think about because they just think, oh, you know, I just got to find some wholesome content on the, you know, that the blue light itself will be addicting. And when they have it broken from them, it probably does create a stress response, doesn't it?

it absolutely creates stress response so one of the things that and it was about 2014 when this came out we have these uh photoreceptors called opsins right melanopsin and this is a blue light detector and we have it everywhere we have it in our blood vessels on our skin in in all of our tissue okay so this is uh functions off of blue light so when you when you have this these opsins then blue light causes vitamin a to be liberated

Okay, so when vitamin A is liberated, it becomes this just chaos, just destructor wrecking ball that goes in and starts destroying chromophores and other functioning parts of biology, right? And this is this cascading effect. So the big problem with that kicks it off is this liberated vitamin A. And this is where you get some of the nonsense around vitamin A toxicity and stuff. And if you're not able to take the biology and take the physics of what's going on in there...

So, for example, when you see eyes, when you see you have rods and cones, right? This epithelial tissue in there, this is also where melanin comes in. Light hits, it releases melanin.

vitamin A. This is part of the process to what gives us vision, actually. And so it's when it's contained within this system, it's okay. When we have excessive liberated vitamin A and it starts wrecking, the cascading effects of that are absolutely detrimental. And so this is where you start seeing a lot of Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, macular degeneration, cataracts, like on and on and on, we can see what's happening there. Something else that's very...

it's unbelievably important is that blue light independent of eating raises blood sugar and insulin like this is this is it's in the literature right it's right there all we got to do is look at it so and this actually works through the protein called pom c pro-opioid lanocortin is the big protein that's cleaved into different products so this is alpha beta gamma msh mct or a

CLP, beta, beta, endorphins, metencafeline. So there's all kinds of downstream things. This is where we actually make melanin is through this process. But through CLP, this is where crotocol-like protein, insulin-like protein. So it causes our blood sugar to increase dramatically.

based on blue light. So what I'm saying to you is diabetes is a blue light disease, right? And more so than even food. Now that sounds crazy. Like a lot of people probably just turned off the interview. This guy's nuts. But look at the literature. It's there. It's right there. Blue light raises it. Red light lowers blood sugar. So when we know just that one simple little fact that's absolutely proven, the hide from the sun nonsense and live in artificial light, and we can't figure out why chronic disease is skyrocketing,

I can assure you it's more than just food. But your studies, how much sunlight should people be getting then direct? And how does that work? As much as possible, as much as possible. And so this is the other nuance that is unbelievably important is like we live on

on Earth, okay, with lots of locations, but lots of different latitudes, right? So when we are at the equator is different than when we're at the poles, right? There is a huge variation in the UV intensity in seasons. So depending on where we are, this whole environmental impact is different, right? So if we're in Ecuador, right, we have very steep

Standard, steady, everything within life, right? It's at the equator. It does not change much. When we're at Anchorage, Alaska, we have 23 hours of dark in the winter and 23 hours of light in the summer, right? That's a completely different spot. So what I would say is that depending on where we are,

We need to get as probably as much as possible. And we look at this ancestrally speaking, while we have Nairobi has extremely dark skinned people, right? Whereas in Northern Europe, it's much darker.

lower melanin content, right? Where cold was embraced. We start looking at some of these Nordic cultures, you know, how the Finnish utilize cold therapy, like all of these different things, because cold is the inverse. And this is where I was kind of excited to get Dr. Yu's take. The magnetism piece is directly related to the cold piece, right? Magnetism is increased, is improved within cold versus hot. So you have this spectrum of the electric,

and the magnetic that go hand in hand. It's not one or the other, but one of them matters more depending on if it's night or day. It's if you're at a temperate climate or at the equator, right? So there's not a standard answer. We should all have eight hours of sun a day. But depending on if you live in a warmer, if you live closer to the equator, you can get less. You can be okay. Or which way is, I mean, what does that look like?

I'm in Florida, so should we be getting in the sun all the time? Yeah, I think that we should.

First of all, I don't believe the sun causes cancer and all of these things. If you've watched my stuff much, Dr. Moore was recently on. He's one of the world-renowned melanin experts, and that goes in. But naturally, you can see what ancestrally was the skin type of the natives of there. So when you take an aborigine, it looks completely different than the British, you know,

imports, right? Like when you look at Sydney and it's all pale skin, blondes with blue eyes, they look completely different than what the Aborigines who developed in that place over time. So melanin content is the natural ability of being able to utilize. So what I'm telling you though, is the flip side of that. When you take somebody from Somalia and you put them in Detroit, you're going to have a mismatch. They need, the more melanin we naturally have, the more sun that we actually need.

And so this is why we have stroke belts. This is why we have, that's why we have high crime in some of these cities because it's stressed out. It was too stressed out. Yeah.

Absolutely. The lack of sun is a stressor if we are very melanated. Now, the flip side of that, and this is what makes it so complicated and why I get aggravated on what we were saying on the siloed aspects, is because we actually have two major classes of mitochondria. So we have the coupled and uncoupled haplotypes. And this is all based off of the work of Dr. Doug Wallace from CHOP, so Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. When we have a

uncoupled haplotype, we really need cold. We've got to be able to embrace cold. This is part of the heteroplasmy and how we produce energy and the efficiency of. When we are coupled, the cold is actually problematic. This is why when we see the sommelier in Milwaukee or Detroit or Ontario, they have more of these health problems is because the cold is actually a stressor if you have that coupled haplotype. And so, you know,

Man, David, this is why there's just layers upon layers upon layers of nuances within the entire conversation. Yeah. I want Dr. You to jump in now because I kind of wanted to set it up with some basic questions and Dr. You can dive into some deeper science if you want.

Yes, very telling story. And also, you come after your own conclusion. And I want to address one thing you mentioned about, say, right now, these different disciplines work in silos. You mentioned, right? Even the doctors...

in almost the same profession and they are not talking to each other. You know, I try to explain the reason happens in academia. And first start from our education because of the fundamental principle we were taught at school, even worse at the university.

So I said that you did not go to university, it's good for you. And so those fundamental principles started from the, you know, actually root cause started over 100 years ago. In 1897, the first discovery scientist, that's J.J. Thomson, discovered the electron.

Since then, they laid the physics foundation. All the physics is based on the charge, electric charge, right? The negative charge electron, and then people build up on what is a positive charge, the nucleus, and then build a model like a solar planetary atomic model. These are all wrong concepts. So what's the consequences of this atomic model? Have something constantly running.

without the dissipated energy, without the impact, without destroying itself, become perpetual motion machine. This is a crazy idea. Somehow, being bought by entire scientific academia community becomes educational class in every teaching, every, I believe even started the middle school, physics work, chemistry, biology,

I'm right now writing the section biology and chemistry. They're all based on the quantum principle. The quantum principle is based on the planetary, solar, planet-like type of atomic models.

And that model is completely wrong. What I discovered is there are no any particles also what we call the revolute or traveling or orbiting around any so-called nucleus. None of them correct. So there are no electron called negative charge because of entire foundations wrong. So you know what happens to each category.

biologists, chemists, they don't know and they don't understand quantum mechanics. However, somebody derived the so-called solution. So they try to use that solution. They don't understand anything. Actually, no physicists truly understand quantum mechanics at all. So what are the consequences? I try to say every biology, every chemistry,

All the class, all the principles are wrong principles. So that's why they never talk and never make sense to each other. So that's why you never see people talking to each other. They are afraid to say anything because everything is laughable. Does not make any sense. I just give you a little bit of you. So why people work on a silo is not because they have a super high technology intelligence, because they don't know anything well.

So, you know, one thing that is extremely offensive that I have observed is that biology and chemistry aren't fundamental sciences. And so I know that's going to be super offensive to people, but physics is, right? And then what you're saying, and I, you know, I have another, a mentor of

Dr. Barry Nenum down in Australia. And Dr. Nenum has some very interesting ideas around nanobubbles and the glycocalyx and cavitation. And that's something that is completely... And Dr. Nenum, I think he's 89. He's been doing it a long time, right? And so he would say...

we're missing a lot in physics that we don't understand. And so like when you, when you go back to the basics of that, maybe we're not even correct on physics and chemistry and biology, aren't even fundamental sciences. It kind of shows you how much we don't know. Exactly. So, uh, you know, even the fundamental science, you, you, you are talking about the mathematics. Oh, we are talking about the same fundamental, what would be physics, physics, physics, right? And, uh,

Sorry about that. I lost the screen. You know, and actually, they have been taught lies, of course, to them. They believe it because it's somebody they believe that's the truth for whole life. Say, you know, say chemical bonds based on the electron. You know, electron in physics class is all constantly nearly a fraction of the speed of light orbiting, right?

So how, however, chemists try to build a stable chemical bond based on the shared electron. Does that feel like ridiculous to you? You know, so that's why they can never develop any coherent chemical theory. Because chemists have no say

unfundamental principle because they believe they are all not fundamental. So I have, you know, at NASA we have a lot of chemists

almost every single chemist you found find a good job. You have to be a PhD and have to hold post-doctor position in order to have any value. Otherwise, you know, just doing experiment in the laboratory. I believe that's the only way they learn is from experiment, from test. So they learn something, anything they learned from the principal are wrong. So that's why make us, you know, the PhD from chemistry,

and biology, extremely hard. Not that they are specialty subjects, but because they have to require to learn fundamental discipline classes, right? Make them super hard. And now I found, oh my goodness, millions of people being misled by this fundamental mistake made at the beginning, at the end of 19th century.

That's the background I just showed you. It's like looking at the iceberg when you wake up and you realize, wait a second, medical science is bad, so that's the tip of the iceberg. And as you get closer, you're like, oh, wait, biology is garbage. You see more of the iceberg. And then you see chemistry is wrong. Biology is based on the chemistry. Chemistry is garbage. The natural chemistry is based on the physics.

Physics theory is garbage now, you know? So that's why, so I'm not blame all the professors. They are not talking, you mentioned about the silos. It's not because they don't want to communicate. They have nothing to share. That's the problem.

Something that I have been really fascinated with is twofold. One, I think that we have a language barrier within science. For example, when you look at the work of, say, Gilbert Ling, what he was trying to describe is very hard to understand based on language not matching up. I put this at a...

for a football analogy, right? Let's say we're running an offense and we call a certain route by a name that is different than a different offense, right? You're calling similar actions, but it's called a different name based on how you conduct the offense, defense, whatever. So I find when I am attempting to look at works of, say, Fritz Popp, Roland Van Wick, Maywin Ho, Gilbert Ling, Rory,

uh, Feynman, um, on and on and on. Like we have this incongruency in terminology that makes it very difficult to even try to grasp. Uh, Perugine, right? Like trying to understand dissipative structures. When, when you go through there, it makes it really difficult. And when you're already taught a certain way of thinking, it makes it even more challenging to decipher it. Exactly. Yeah.

You mentioned about why they use different terminology. That is the one way they try to get by, by massacring their ignorance. Let me tell you how physics can be propagated over 100, 150, 100, no, 100, almost 130 years. Okay.

I'm going to say 147 years. I'm talking about just say started from the last, the end of the 19th century. But why this theory propagated for so long? They use a different language. That means a different term, right? Suddenly, hey, we have electrons. Hey, people say, hey, we never in the life, have anyone in life see what the electron looks like? Nobody.

So that's something that never existed before. So you see, that's one example, right? And then now in the quantum example, they cannot solve the equations. They said, hey, you said the electron orbited nucleus does not make sense, right? They said, hey, let's blend it over. So we have no particles. We have a wave. They said the wave particle, make electron as a cloud. Okay. Clouds have no orbits.

No locations, okay? Just based on probability. You see, now it's clouds. Electron becomes electron clouds. Now it's an orbital node.

No orbitals now. Now orbital becomes, you know, different. Oh, we use orbital. Orbital business be the biggest area now, right? It's no track trajectory. We take trajectory out. We don't know what the orbital is. So it's a region, a special shape or something. Just say, we don't know where it is, but probability in that region. You know, all these terms are invented.

you know, quantum entanglement, tunneling. And especially if you look at the equation, those are mathematical symbols. They're changing the mathematical symbols. Look at quantum mechanical symbols. Nobody recognizes what they do, what they say. So that's the tool used to shielding criticism and covering their eagerness. That's my discovery.

I may insult somebody, but I believe problems are much more serious than that one. It derailed the scientific advancement for centuries.

i don't know how to say this i i don't know how y'all's channel uh is but uh i i still feel like um and i gotta be careful about this with with you dr you the uh because of who you're associated with i feel like we know more behind the scenes on some things uh that are being used just like the the blue light is addictive that that is not new information and it is being used against us uh 100 oh sure so these are

can explain by classical electrodynamics, you know, so light, you know, the light, electricity, you know, there are, but these are not the principles. As I say, there are some phenomenons. We can't explain them, right? So like a blue light, so why blue lights are worse than green lights? You know, the most human,

friendly light, you know, all the biology friendly light is a blue light because blue light is right at the center of the visible light spectrum. So that's how all the biological life comes out. We are generated because of blue light, because of green, I'm sorry, I'm talking about the green lights. Green lights has less than, you know, the frequency, so have a longer wavelengths.

it's less harmful, or I would say more coherent in biological life. You know, one thing about the green light specifically is it changes this charged state of iron, right? So like this directly affects hemoglobin, right? We either have met hemoglobin or we have appropriate hemoglobin that transports oxygen. You know, that's just one example. And we don't have that spectrum that we're exposed to within this artificial light, that only comes from sun. So like one way you can...

You brought up green light and I think it's fascinating. We don't have enough conversations about it. Is we have what's called the green flash. This is a phenomenon that happens at the beginning and end of every single day. You're not always able to see it. You can see it on a beach where you have a wide horizon that you can look at, but it's this flash of a green light, green flash. To me, I think that it is a time stamping, right?

for biology to have that input, right? Because light is information, right? That is extremely important. I don't think that we talk about enough either. But the timing, the timing of all of this is unbelievably important. And time being relative and on different scales, right? The circadian timing within a mitochondria is different from the timing of the seasons, is different from the timing of the day, right? Oh, okay, good.

When you have time that is thrown off, none of what we're talking about works properly. Nothing, right? This is why I think that it's extremely important. Let me give you one example.

We're told tanning beds are good or tanning beds are bad, right? It's UVA, it's UVB, right? That's the only thing that we're really talking about. Oh, it doesn't have infrared or it does have infrared, so it's good for you. Well, let's throw that side of the conversation out. Let's say that we use a full spectrum UVB included tanning bed at midnight versus we use it at solar noon. You think that has a different signaling input to the body?

Absolutely. So when we are confusing the entire system with inappropriate light signals, we throw off timing of the entire organism. This is a big problem. And I think that physics could allow us to better understand that better than any other field. But we have to have the conversation on timing if we're going to overcome cancer. I agree. I just want to clarify when you talk about the timing, are you referring to seasons? Yes.

Or reframing any time during the day or during the week? I'm talking about timing as in so many different contexts. In biology, he's...

Yeah, I'm talking about it all. I'm talking about from the timing of light within the ultra weak bio photons, the coherence, the oscillation of light. Say the mitochondria produce light. That is one of the things they do. And we don't talk about that. We're only told that mitochondria are the powerhouse of the cell and they produce ATP. So much more, right? It produces metabolic water, produces CO2, reactive oxygen species, on and on and on, right? It does so much. But one thing that it does is it produces light.

It does produce light. This light then goes to the chromatin, which is his stones and DNA that receives. DNA is a light antenna. That's what it is. Within the little H's, this absorbs and holds light. It then emits it. So what we have within healthy cells and

cancerous cells is a difference in timing of that light. It's called delayed bio-aluminescence. In a cancer cell, it cannot hold on and emit, right? We have emission and absorption spectrums within literally everything.

So if we are unable to time the exit, the emission of this light properly, the entire system within the cell doesn't work properly, right? Genes aren't expressed properly. We have too much growth, not enough growth, right? So, Dr. Yu, something else that I find absolutely fascinating is I've tried to understand deuterium because deuterium inside the mitochondria destroy everything.

everything right and destroys the atp ace which is the nanomotor and i do want to circle back on that too because a nanomotor actually creates a magnetic field that draws oxygen through i think that's extremely important for us to to highlight as well but if if we have deuterium right this is a isotope of hydrogen right has an extra neutron so it changes the mass um

What happens under a pressure, a squeezing, electro or magnetic squeezing, it emits UV light. We know this in engineering with a deuterium lamp, right? This is how we get a UV light. So now if we have excessive UV light that's creating more growth, right? That's cancer, right? So this is just one mechanism of that. So we're destroying this whole symphony of things that emit and absorb UV.

light within a cell and the timing of all of that light, the intensity, the fidelity of the signal within that cell is what we have got to line out. And the way we do that is by eating local, seasonal, natural food.

be grounded with appropriate magnetism, right? A desert does not have appropriate magnetism. Let's look at the Aborigines again and being in the sun. That is how we correct the signal of all of it. So this is where, you know, it really doesn't matter who's right or wrong. How do we cure cancer and how do we grow food? Like that's, that's my focus. Yes. I just want to, based on the, you are, you're, you're, you're, you're talking, your explanation, uh, uh, induce my thoughts, uh,

So that's how we created some new ideas come from. So you said the Turing is inside of what is a cell, is that right? Inside of cell?

Actually, Dr. Yu, this is exactly why we have a Krebs cycle. It's to get deuterium out. It's to isolate hydrogen and utilize hydrogen. And we're trying to keep deuterium out. I think this entire Krebs cycle, when it gets inside of the mitochondria. Then they destroy everything, right? You know the reason? Yeah. So I'll try to explain why deuterium can destroy everything. Because deuterium is a radioactive material. It's instable material.

isotope of hydrogen, right? So that's why it's a, we call it heavy water or something, right? So that's what is a radioactive element, very easy to induce nuclear. So we use heavy water, you know, induce nuclear bomb. So what is the physical mechanism behind it? Is it because it is

It is unstable means very easy to be excited by environmental excitation and becomes oscillating. When you're oscillating, you radiate a light. So you said, hey, we have a light come out, you know, mitochondria. So we know, yeah, mitochondria is highly active.

magnetically strong, you know, polarizations are strong and active. When this kind of particle oscillating, you generate light. You know why sometimes you do not see light? We are talking about the visible light, right? At a certain frequency. Normally if they oscillating vibration less than visible light, you do not detect a visible light. You have to use the equipment. They're like, oh, there's an electromagnetic oscillation, right?

So I just try to say, so now coming back to say, hey, you're talking about why light can help, or you even mentioned the electromagnetic field, magnets can help, help healing. So for me, physically, so sunlight could, meaning sunlight is more friendly to human body, right? To biology, right? Sunlight itself generates electromagnetic wave or generates electricity under your skin, right?

or in your body, you know, because of skin oscillating, generate bioelectricity, right? So these are more, I would say, coherent light. So this light acted as a counter agent to what you're talking about. You're talking blue light is a minority among solar lights. Of course, sunlight have them, right? So basically you try to use most of the healthy magnetic field, right?

to neutralize or to reduce, to counter

balance those kind of harmful radioactive type of high frequency oscillation. So that's for me. So why light help you? Light help you generate electricity. You feel warm, you feel hot, burning. You are burning not because of the light, not because of light impact. Light does not have particle impact, you know. Light is oscillation vibration, oscillation. So generate

electricity in your body. So that electricity can travel. So when place burning, your whole body will feel like burning. Feels like I cannot tolerate, right? So that's why. Because the signal is through electromagnetic signal, through bioelectricity throughout your body. And I believe that's the part

and counter field you said hey we are not balanced now you you bring balance to counter this radioactive material in your body destroy yourself what you just laid out was why uh water and melanin are so important as well right because this is what is is that medium that

that conducts that entire electromagnetic system? Number one, they are conductor, right? Conducting. Number two, they are acted as a resistance. They create viscosity, you know, resistance, right? Counter radioactive material. You know, radioactive materials vibrate at high frequency. You know, what happens to high frequency oscillation? Create high heat and burn down

bad, burn through your cells, create cancer. That's how cancer created. So what, based on the work of Nick Lane, the mitochondria produce 30 million volts of electricity. I didn't know the volts level. So that is the equivalent of lightning. Now, granted, this is on a scale, right? As it shrinks down, it becomes the equivalent of lightning. So melanin is one of the most electromagnetic elements

materials that there is when it's dry. Now, so what do we do? Now, this is where it's really, really, really interesting to look at the work of Robert O. Becker that laid out the regenerative potential, okay? So the electricity it takes to take a red blood cell, and granted this has no nucleus, no mitochondria, and convert it into a stem cell is under one trillionth of an amp

meter. Okay. Now think about that. That's very, very tiny. So we have a huge gap between 30 million volts to a trillion. Okay. In order to make a red blood cell turn into a stem cell. So how do we do that? Well, you remember earlier when I said that the mitochondria produce water,

metabolic water. This is completely deuterium depleted water that hydrates melanin that reduces this charge for this entire system to work appropriately. So what we have is dehydrated melanin from David, going back to your point from non-native EMFs, which blue light is a non-native EMF. We are dehydrating the entire system. And what Dr. You just laid out was we can't control the electricity throughout the

And we burn it up. That is the problem. Like that is entirety of its problem. So we have to have melanin. We have to have it hydrated it. And we have to have the appropriate inputs to have the appropriate symphony that's going on in the cell. How do we hydrate the melanin part? What's that?

Actually, it's red light and fat like that. That is what you do. Fat through beta. Yeah. When you look at mitochondrial metabolism, you have this hierarchy of the moles of what water is produced based on. And fat is the highest. Carbohydrates are the lowest. So you do not produce much metabolic water with carbohydrates. You produce the most with fats. And then in the middle is protein.

And also this is at complex three to where it is a energy, a red light hog. It loves red light. So you give it red light, red light, red light. This is part of why red light therapy works. It's still nowhere near as good as the sun. We need the infrared for all of this to work properly. Yeah. What, what have you ever looked into the history of chromotherapy, you know, where they have these different color lights and they absolutely. Can you derive anything that we might be interested in there? You know, that can help us understand this.

So this is where it kind of goes back to what Dr. Yu was saying earlier is like we have to get myopic to attempt to understand it. And when we get myopic, we fall into these traps, right? So when we go outside and we look, I think green is the perfect example of that. What do we see when we go outside in nature in a vibrant system? Green.

We have a blue sky. We have white clouds. We have green foliage everywhere, right? And things that stand out are like a red bird or a berry, a fruit, a purple, right? So we have this. And so if you look at, say, a hospital, we go in there and this is a place of healing, right? We go in there, it's white or gray walls, right? The only plant in there is probably some fake thing that's covered in dust, right? We're pretending like the air is somehow the most toxic thing in the world. So we have these things

these filtration systems. We have the windows closed, no light from the sun. There's really blue light you see in every hospital room. All blue light. You have all these machines that are going off that are hooked up to the internet or different Bluetooth that are producing this non-native. So when you take that example of why people die in hospitals,

versus what you see in nature, right? Now, simply going off of the colors that you're talking to, it's completely night and day. It just makes you question like everything that we think we know is not there. When you go outside and you look at grass and the trees and that, what colors are you exposed to?

Nature had it right. God had it right in the design. It's these frontal lobes that got us in trouble. And so the color therapy, in my opinion, the best way to do that, go out in the woods, go to the creek, go hike. Because the green, so the green color from everything around you is going to be harmonizing with your body. What's happening there? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. So what's it doing? What's it making? You got into the weeds there with the other stuff. What's going on when you're around that green foliage?

Because people say, I feel great when I go out in nature. What's happening? Tell people what's happening there. There's a lot of different things, right? So it's, you've got a, typically, a less of an impact of, say, 5G, of the Wi-Fi signals, of all of this. You've got the colors. I think that that's important. And the mechanism there is, I mean, we can get into it more, but it's,

You're grounding. Grounding is so important. And this goes into Dr. Yu's magnetism talks and stuff and getting more in connection with the human resonance, right? Like there's this... This is why we've got to be careful trying to get too myopic in the conversation. Why is going out there doing something for the colors? You have...

Plants produce all kinds of terpenes and phytochemicals that we inhale that have a physiological effect as well. But pine tree produces certain ones that have an impact. This is why the Japanese forest bathing is so fascinating to me on the full spectrum of what's going on. The...

Beginning in nature realigns everything we just lined out with the fidelity of the signal within the cell. It's the artificial environment does the opposite. Going back to the water hose thing, which one are we throwing off?

When I first – when Dr. Yu and I first met, I kept asking him. I said, look, your Yuan theory throws out so many foundational things that you're never going to get published in a lot of these journals because you have to pledge fidelity to certain presumptions before you can even have access to the door. And so it's kind of a club. And I said, you're going to have to make predictions about discoveries and things that could be invented from those discoveries and

that somebody is going to have to do for you to win the argument. Because even though your argumentation is solid, then...

that you're going to need a charismatic discovery to keep it over the edge. And so that's just the human nature problem, not a truth problem, right? And so some of the things that I asked Dr. Yu, I would ask him wacky things like I'd say, well, if your theory of the atom and the yuan subatomic particles is correct, that everything is a magnet, how would you deal with cancer? And he said, I would think that antibiotics would be very effective at destroying cancer, right?

And he explained the physics for why that is. And then we found independently of him a guy who's become a friend of mine named Michael Asante, who was using the very antibiotic Z-Pak that Dr. Yu recommended. How do you go from physics all the way to an oncologist using Z-Pak to kill cancer stem cells with

and completely heal breast cancer and various other types of cancers that he's now demonstrated that over and over again independently. Dr. Yu didn't know about his work. We brought them together after we found him. But, you know, that's the thing, folks, is that if you get your physics fundamental principles right, you can make downstream predictions about cancer.

fields like what does physics and oncology have to say together well well if you talk to logan it has a lot right but for the average person they're not even thinking about well i've got to talk to a physicist about cancer you know what i mean david two two things there man uh the first one is with dr you working for nasa how do they evaluate life throughout the solar system they look for light water and magnetism right that's what seti does what nasa does you look at how this this uh

three-legged stool comes together to support life. Well, we can do the same thing within our own lives. So this is why living it, the...

dead sea is thrown off, right? This is why living in the middle of a desert is thrown off. This is why, because magnetism is missing in this three-legged stool. We're higher on the solar spectrum, we're lower on magnetism. So when you look at that in the context of, if we're going to search the solar system for this magical combination of light, water, and magnetism to support life, but somehow when we're here on Earth, we think that it's different to govern the biology of life, right? That's insane to me.

right that's insane but exactly correct yeah you're right you know and another example that you are have like right there in your face is looking at uh mark and and scott kelly right the astronauts well one goes up they're twins one goes up in the space station spends whatever 200 300 days up there comes back with osteoporosis all kinds of hypermethylation things that go on and brother that's an identical twin has none of these issues and it's because it's the environment right

The environment of a space station is like living in LA. It's like living in Austin. It's like living in Miami. You're more like in a space station based off of the exposure you're getting than if you were in the mountains of, say, Montana, right? Like it is a completely different environmental exposure that you have. So what I'm telling you is that we are living our life more like the Kelly brother that was an astronaut than we are the one that wasn't.

Exactly. Yeah. The two twin brothers, you know, when you said the experience after long stay in the microgravity environment, right? Almost a weightless environment and develop the symptom. His twin brother on Earth,

Both are NASA astronauts and his brother is a professor of health. Is that what you got? That's what I'm saying. I'm saying it's more than just gravity, right? I'm saying it is the EMF exposure. Of course. Right? That's the environment. When you look at the osteoporosis that we see now, when you realize that

bone is made up of collagen and appetite held together by a copper atom. And when we knock that copper atom off, we can't hold it together. And that's osteoporosis. That's osteoporosis that we're seeing on earth.

How does, Logan, because you've got a fount of knowledge here, it's fascinating. How does something like, I saw recently a friend posted a study showing that thyroid hormone, quote, causes cancer cells to revert back to normal. And it's T3, the molecule does not kill the cells, it reverses the cancerization, turning brain cells back to normal, which is this differentiation that's

that's healthy. And so, so, so he's saying that this thyroid hormone is not about killing the cells, but actually reversing them. That's something that this chemical compound should be able to do. What do you think of that, Logan? I think this is exactly why you need to know physics. So what is thyroid hormone, right? There's made out of aromatic amino acids and iodine. This has an emission and absorption spectrum. So what it's actually doing is you're getting more light into the body.

to function properly based on everything that I just told you about the fidelity of the signal when you don't have the appropriate input. So this is what hormones actually are. It's what vitamin D does. Anything that's made out of cholesterol, all of these functions absorb light and they emit light. So thyroid issues, we have an epidemic of

of thyroid issues because that blue light in our face right so what you're seeing is you're having thyroid issues right inappropriate light farriers that's what hemoglobin actually is too it fairies light throughout the body what cancer is right what cancer is is a reversion it's an atavistic

approach to the environment, right? What we're doing, if you look at, this is where you got to have some of the history that comes in too, and we probably don't have time to go through all of this. What happened at the great oxygenation event, right? Whether you believe in evolution, creation, God, it doesn't really matter. There was a process at which things played out. What

Oxygen was toxic. So within cancer, we have what's referred to as the Warburg shift. This is based off of Otto Warburg's work. The Warburg shift essentially means that oxygen is a toxin.

This is where we reverted into a different form of metabolism, fermentation, as Warburg called it, to where we're not utilizing oxygen right. It's not as efficient. But what cancer cells are doing is are operating in a state more akin to bacteria. So mitochondria, they say it's a purple cyanobacteria that merged with a eukaryotic cell. So when you have an oxygen allergy condition,

you have to have a different metabolism. Okay. So what causes that? That Warburg shift comes from the blue light. It comes from the, uh, uh, the, the, the, that three-legged stool we were talking about being thrown off, right? You tip the stool over, you can remove a leg. It doesn't work properly.

That fidelity of the signal, the timing, the exposure, the emission of light is so important. So thyroid, we need to understand what's happening with aromatic amino acids, with the emission absorption spectrum, how that's transferring this light throughout the body, the frequencies, right? And then how that is impacting the rest of the body.

You're overcoming the blue light toxicity that they're doing. So when you see my friend, Georgie Dinkoff has done some rodent studies recently. He's using vitamin B1, thiamine, B3, niacinamide, B7, biotin and aspirin.

to knock out the most aggressive forms of cancer, particularly mantle cell lymphoma in his rodent trials that he did. Total, complete healing. The rodents lived a long, happy life. Totally blew out any of the standard of care for cancer using those three simple B vitamins and aspirin at a dosage level, which is not toxic at all for humans if they were to use it themselves.

what do you think is going on with that? With your framework of light and everything? I just, I like to see different things collide and that's how I learned. But,

B vitamins are chromophores. So when we look at something like B12, right, that's a deficiency that's just epidemic, right? We have B12 anemia. We have regular anemia, iron, which is not the problem, and it's copper and light. When you have the understanding of everything I just said about the thyroid hormones, they're ferrying light for a certain period.

function, right? We hear a lot about MTHFR, right? This is a methylation part of a gene where we're supposed to have more methylated folate, where folic acid is a toxin. You have to understand the emission and absorption spectrums of all of that. So what

I would highly recommend that you do is get your friend to understand the emission absorption spectrum of every one of the things that he gave, you know, B1, B7, aspirin included, and look at what is happening on the light side of that. Also, I think it's crazy to...

not have what I think is the most important variable ever to be included in every single study. So we have a nocturnal mammal that we're having under artificial lighting and we're studying some sort of an isolated compound without taking into the totality of that environment at which they're in, right? That to me always has to be in there. And that's why I think probably 99% of the studies that we have are,

inaccurate, incomplete, or plain wrong, because you're taking that environment and you're altering it, right? What would they have done if they were in the sun in full spectrum? Uh, if it was, the lighting was appropriate, they were studied in the dark versus in the light when they would have been sleeping right there in a nocturnal manner. So when we're talking about rodents, yeah, I'm talking about rodents, right? So you, you,

It's all light. It really, really, really is. And this is exactly how genes are expressed. They're slowed down or sped up on the timing and fidelity, the coherence of that signal. An average ordinary guy who's just totally new to this might say, well, gee, Logan, I mean, I know a lot of guys that are tan, out there working men, out there farming or landscaping.

tan as can be lots of light exposure, got their shirt off all the time and they get cancer. They get this or that. They get this disease. They get that disease. Now you probably just say it's because they're looking at the phone too or something or what, what would you say to that? You know, cause you would think, okay, if the key is light, get as much light. These guys are getting as much light. And maybe if we did a study formally, you'd see maybe some better health outcomes, but generally people just know a lot of guys that,

go to bars and stuff, they look really tan and they're still getting cancers like everybody else. So what's going on there? Well, I think you got to look at the data. They're not. And so when you, when you look at one example of this is, well, I have a lot of people we work with in LA that are tan and they have tanked vitamin D levels. So if UVB is what, you know, synthesizes vitamin D and they're tan, we have a mismatch, right? Right.

Something's not working properly. The tan is not the only thing. Now, what did we lay out with Dr. Yu earlier about melanin and the electricity? If we have dehydrated melanin, we are shocking the system. Okay.

So we've got to be hydrated. Where do they live? Let's say they're fit guys, right? They're going and they're spending two hours a day in a blue-let gym pumping weights in the stress and they're dehydrating themselves. That's actually if you start looking at the people that are dying, right, post-COVID for various reasons that I'm not going to get your channel banned, they're the ones that are dying, right? It's

that that's who's dying. When you start looking at what the lipid nanoparticles are doing, what SV40 is doing, when, when you realize what's happening, that that's not why they're dying. They're not dying from the tan, right? That's the one thing that's probably prolonging their life. So get a tan, get out of the artificial environments. If they're living in Miami and they have cancer and they're tan, I,

I just told you the space station example, right? They're living in a space station. So all of that is interrelated. So if somebody has cancer, get into nature, get appropriate sunlight, full spectrum, clean it up. You got to start off slow. Do people need to start off slow if they haven't built up layers of

This is what's called the solar callus. Okay. This is a kind of Jack Cruz's way of, of laying all of this out. And so you have to prime this where I mentioned Palm C at the beginning of this conversation.

You prime the body with infrared light. When we get up in the morning, we see the sunrise, what color is it? It's pink, it's orange, it's red, right? This is a full blast of this infrared light. This primes the entire system, including melatonin, right? Melatonin is, we hadn't even got into that in the circadian timing of this entire system. When we get the things lined out by light, we get it. So then what comes next?

If we look at the spectrum of the light throughout the day, we get into UVA, right? UVA actually, really cool, releases nitric oxide locally. So where the sun touches your skin, it releases nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is a vasodilator. So now we start connecting. Why do we see this blood pressure epidemic? Well, people are not in the sun, right? Or they're covered up. So then this promotes...

preps what's called melanocytes, right? These are the cells that produce melanin to get active, get ready. Then UVB comes in and it actually converts and produces the melanin, right? And so it's this entire system. And then it goes the exact opposite way for sunset. So being exposed, yeah. So when we say live in Little Rock, Arkansas-

We live, we work at a school or at a hospital or an office. We're inside all the time. We're not exposed. And then we go down to Destin for the week and we have not been exposed to the sun and we're wearing sunglasses and we get fried. That's completely different, right? When you have a constant daily practice of being sun exposed, that's not a problem. Yeah, it really isn't. Do people think like, I'm just trying to get to the bare, the basic practical things that people are probably asking. So how much time do,

is an ideal amount for people that have jobs and everything else normal. Not everybody gets to work out in the, in the, in the nature. Uh, how much time should people shoot for on average to get out and get sun exposure, you know, just as much as possible. Yeah. But is there a radiate? Like if you get two hours, you're pretty healthy. If you get eight hours, you're going to be super healthy. If you get 30 minutes, it's not enough. I mean, people just like to know people like in basics, uh,

you know, keep it simple, stupid stuff, you know, as much as you can construct your life around getting it. So like in the morning, watch at sunset, drink your coffee on the porch, right? If you have a lunch break, go eat outside. If you're able to get off early, go to the park, like whatever it is, literally David, as much as you possibly can. Because if I say it's 30 minutes, people are going to just like shoot for 30 minutes and think that it's, it's enough. Right. And there's not a, a,

The bell curve doesn't work like that with what we live in because how do we repair these heme proteins that are getting destroyed? And I laid out liberated vitamin A earlier, infrared and UV light. So you're healing. So that is a therapy. It is a modality when you are in the sun. Yeah.

Dr. Yi, I want to land the plane. Any last thoughts or questions you have? Oh, yes, yes, I do have. You know, based on the discussion, I do have some kind of thoughts I want to share with our audience. One thing about, you know, let's say light can help you, you know, cure cancer. So I try to say, what's the underlying mechanism?

So, under a light, exposed light, basically creates electricity at this kind of visible light frequency, creating the resonance in your body. And this resonance itself, and try to excite and try to regulate everything else.

within a certain range. So that's why radioactive at a higher frequency, like blue light induced or deteriorating this kind of neutrons, this kind of oscillation. So because you add this kind of regulation, add resonance and the light, healthy light, coherent light, or induced electricity environment,

can help you regulate the shielding and preventing this kind of cancer growth. I thought that that's one thing. And another thing I thought about, I connected this one with, remember, David, we interviewed another biologist that's called Michael Levin. Remember him? Yeah, we had him on. Yes, months ago, right? Very famous one. He tried to cure, make a healthy body.

and kill cancer or make healthy body through applying electrical voltage.

Okay, so which comes to the same thing. You know, your sunlight generates bioelectricity in your body and creates resonance. And everything vibrates at that resonance. So that's why preventing anything out of the balls, you know, oscillating at a higher damage to the presence. So that's one thing. So that connected with me. His principle apply electricity can help atoms come back together instead of some kind of...

cancer cell being rejected by other part, right? Become something. So then if you've been contained in a healthy cell, it may regulate you, you may grow back to healthy. But if you reject the isolated, right? Now you grow wild. So that's why, so that's his, he said, how to avoid that happens? Use electrical voltage. Now,

come to one friend I met at Home Depot. You know, I was trying to purchase something. He's very friendly, you know, gather the things for me. And somehow we become friends. He told me one thing about it, which is useful, I believe, for cure cancer, and which is similar to light therapy. He said that you were called a jacket, called an electrocapacitant cancer therapy.

It's a jacket, like a military word that protects you, this kind of bullet jacket. It has a different voltage applied from the back and the front. I said I'd never heard of it. So I said, "Why do you believe that one?" He said he was injured while working at the Home Depot, lifting up what is a hundred thousand pounds or something, injured his waist.

And then he said, you know, based on the damage, it's very heavy falling. And so based on the damage, the doctor and all the evaluation said, you need at least six months before you can recover to FOMO.

And I believe he said Home Depot has good insurance. So then he actually went to another therapy, used this called the Electro-Voltage Jacket, called the ECC therapy. I wanted to read the name of that one. I thoroughly believe that would help. It's called the ECCT, called the Electro-Compatence Cancer Therapy.

So it is basically a life jacket, just like save people in the room. Apply slightly voltage between. So what happens if I apply the right, this voltage helps you resonate your cell, can keep your cell coherent, resonant at a certain frequency. So prevent cause damage to the cancer cell. You know, cancer cell is damaged. Cancer cell, it grows wild.

if you can regulate them and apply, use some, use electromagnetic wave, you know, that's the voltage, electric voltage applied, can help you feel. He said in two, he said it's just one week. It feels, he almost feels like all done. And then the second week, he feels he no longer need anything. He get rid of it. And he's now fully full-time returned back to work at that one.

That reminds me, oh my goodness, human healthy body vibrating at a certain frequency, healthy frequency, which is the same thing you said, light may oscillate in frequency. I do believe that one. If you're under green light, that's the most friendly to biology lives. Probably that's the energy for biological life to grow. That's the energy for them to survive.

So that's why you use that to regulate you. So that's why you said, hey, your son young and then easy to recover. But for older people, you may not enough for yourself, you know, your son like self and can kill that one. Maybe that's a E-C-C-T. That's a jacket that may help you kill. I believe help you recover healthy, probably can kill cancer too.

Yeah, I think that what we've always got to be careful with the technologies is the aberrant effect, right? Like what we do. And so like when we can do the essentially the safety of the natural way of I think that's always kind of the natural way is always the first to try. Yes, you're right. But what that sounds like to me is it goes back to what I said about Robert O. Becker's work with the red blood cell in the

stem cells under the one trillionth of an amp, right? Like we're converting stem cells for healing, like potentially, right? Just hypothesizing why that method, that jacket worked. But also we release...

stem cell depots with nitric oxide. I think that's really important. So the healing frequencies have to go. And so what is nitric oxide, right? Like, how do we get that? Well, I already told you with the sunlight, right? Like that it works vocally. Also, this is why I think things like, you know, massages and even acupuncture, like this alloy, it releases this nitric oxide. And that's a really, really important big deal.

That's very good. We had the late, great Dr. Ray Peet on our show many times, too, and one of the things he always talked about was, you know, the link between altitude and cancer, you know, and the lowest rates of obesity, the lowest rates of cancer, which both are related to hypoxia, you know, lack of oxygen, are in places like Colorado. I looked it up online. The highest altitude counties have the lowest rates of these mortality cases. Do

Do you think that's because of the cosmic radiation or is that the CO2? What do you think? I mean, because he thought it was mostly due to the, you know, the effect of retaining more CO2 in the body when you get up at that lower oxygen level. Yeah. Well, what I tell you what cancer is, it's a Warburg shift. Oxygen is an allergy. Yeah.

Well, I appreciate your time, Logan. Can you tell us where we can follow your work and folks who want to get interested in sunlight therapy and all the things you've kind of referenced today? Yeah, just my name, Logan Duvall, and then Sewing Prosperity. That's like the agricultural context, S-O-W-I-N-G. That'll pull me up across the different platforms.

Next time, Dr. Yu, we got to get into why photons are not particles, that there's no such thing as light particles traveling. That was in that next episode. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Thanks, Logan. Appreciate your time. Thanks, guys. Thank you. And you can email us hello at a neighbor's choice dot com with your comments or, of course, drop them in the comment section wherever you're watching this program. I'm David Gronowski. Godspeed. Godspeed. Godspeed.

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