Peter McCullough MD Sends Direct Challenge to Trump on the Vaccines
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They were hell-bent on getting a needle in every arm, and they wanted to overlook any problems on safety to get the entire country vaccinated. David, I didn't buy it. I didn't take these vaccines. I'm a doctor. I've studied this very, very carefully. I got it in my feet. I got it in my walk. I got it in my throat. I got it in my head. I got it in my feet. I got it in my walk. I got it in my throat. In my feet. I got it in my walk. I got it in my throat. I got it in my head.

Well, we're here with the man of the hour, someone who really got the facts laid out clearly and passionately in the recent U.S. Senate hearing on myocarditis and the COVID-19 vaccine. We have with us Dr. Peter McCullough. How you doing, sir?

David, great to be here. It's been a whirlwind week. I bet. So tell us a little bit about the whole setup. You went in there, and I got to tell you, the clips are going viral, and everybody's cheering you on because it feels like there's a lot of...

pushback for any serious reckoning about the COVID-19 vaccine. There's a little bit of movement when it comes to recognizing what was done wrong about maybe lockdowns, a little bit of that, not much still, but when it comes to vaccine, it's still not really getting its full reckoning. So tell us how this, this was all about myocarditis only, right? This hearing. Yeah. Well, I give great credit to Senator Ron Johnson who has pursued this. He now is the chair of

Of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, the permanent subcommittee on investigations. Okay. And so the ranking member is Senator Richard Blumenthal from Connecticut. So Johnson now has, to the point, you know, pursued this.

and has gotten this into official senate reports so this one's on myocarditis we got the interim report in preparation for the meeting it's uh i believe 53 pages 217 references it names 16 government officials now that includes johnson but 15 that appear to be the perpetrators

And it builds upon the work by Naomi Wolf at The Daily Cloud. And she had multiple investigative reporters, doctors, Carol Tercetta, Jayantha Kunda-Hassan, Attorney Ed Berkowitz, Amy Kelly.

And they had through a series of postings from 2023 into 2024, they had actually cited 73 government officials. And what are we talking about here? We're talking about they knew the COVID vaccines. And at that time, it was Pfizer and Moderna were causing heart damage. And they knew the heart damage could lead to death. And this is early in 2021. And they covered it up. Wow.

and how did they get that information like freedom of information requests or how did that work foia requests from the daily cloud group several years ago and then actually direct subpoena from senator johnson now i was positioned as the lead witness

because I'm a cardiologist and I focus on myocarditis in my practice, but I was joined by Jordan Vaughn from Birmingham, Alabama. He has an internist. He focuses on blood clots. And then James Thorpe, who is a maternal-fenal medicine specialist, and he made comments regarding damage that occurs to the mother and baby during pregnancy.

Attorney Aaron Seery, who's focusing on vaccine injury claims, Joel Waskog, who's a orthopedic surgeon, who he himself suffered transverse myelitis and was paralyzed by one Moderna shot. And then lastly, the minority witness was Hawaii Governor Dr. Josh Green, who's a family doctor. And so

And the hearing went on for about three and a half hours that the Senate chamber was packed. And, you know, I can tell you that the crowd is not supposed to cheer. So there's a certain decorum in the Senate and they couldn't help themselves when certain points were made.

Well, that was, yeah, you could hear the cheers and the clips that I saw from the things you were saying because you were just laying out the facts that, you know, they knew this and they covered it up. And Jordan Vaughn, we know him. He's a friend of the show. We've had him on the program and I know him. So, you know, it was great to have that line up there. What do you think is going to come out of this committee? Is there any traction for legislative reform or any further investigation or anything that you're hearing?

Just a few hours before our hearing, and obviously they knew about it, the FDA had expanded the package label warnings for myocarditis for Pfizer and Moderna.

but they only increased it in terms of an age span. They recognize that younger people could be damaged, but it's woefully inadequate. What regulatory specialist Carol Tassetta, who's a doctor working for the Daily Club, what she had pushed Peter Marks at the FDA to do back in 2023 was to put a black box warning. Black box warning is required when a medical product causes death.

when it directly causes death. And I presented the autopsy data where it was clear the vaccines are causing death. They're the direct cause of death, myocarditis that's fatal. And there was another condition that Tassetta said really needs a black box warning and that's anaphylaxis. That's when someone takes a vaccine and they immediately have a cardiac arrest in the vaccine center. And sadly, David, in the US CDC VAERS system,

About 1175 people, Americans, certified by the CDC have died right in the vaccine center or a few hours afterwards. Shocking. You know, there's a lot of people that keep talking about, and I know you have these turbo cancers. Was that raised at all? I know it was about myocarditis, but you did mention they talked about women in a pregnancy with children. So

Did they get into that? No, turbo cancers were not raised, but you know, one can't help but remark about former President Biden announcing that he has such advanced prostate cancer that it's blocking flow out of his bladder and it's already spread up his spine and probably his pelvis. David, astonishing that a president of the United States

that they wouldn't have routine cancer surveillance. I check this on my patients daily, the prostate exam and the blood PSA. I mean, this is such simple things, but to have that either not caught or in fact, at his last health examination by his physician O'Connor in February 2024, they said everything was fine. Now I assume O'Connor did his job and did a prostate exam and check the blood PSA.

So let me tell you, from February of 2024 to May of 2025 and now have widely metastatic prostate cancer, David, we never see that. It's considered Gleason grade nine. It's the most aggressive cancer possible. The reason why I bring it up is Biden has had six COVID-19 vaccines and the vaccines have been linked to very aggressive and very rapidly progressing cancer, so-called turbo cancer. Wow.

So when you see that and you see the myocarditis risk, do you think that this new administration, the FDA commissioner, Macari and all these other folks that are in there, are they going to take this on head on at some point? Or do you think they're going to just try to do the little the mildest slaps on the wrist of these vaccines and move on?

Yeah, I don't think they're strong enough, David. No, I think you're right. I think they're going to just soft pedal this and allow, sadly, allow more Americans to die. There are recent guidance that they put out in the New England Journal of Medicine, and this was Macri and Prasad. And keep this in mind. These are doctors that have never seen a COVID patient. They've never seen a myocarditis patient. They're, you know, woefully inadequate.

they put out guidance and listen to this they say now that 31 of adult americans should be taking coveted vaccines based on their new guidance but but what's the problem only 15 percent of americans are taking vaccines so 31 they say should be taking them

and only 15% in reality are. So they should do a little reality check on who's taking these shots, and does anybody, you know, should anybody take the risk? I can't see it. The vaccines were completely ineffective, and they're very risky. So that means 15% of Americans are still taking all the boosters, or is that what that's suggesting?

The CDC is, again, completely inadequate. You know, the government supplies the vaccines to the pharmacies. They should know every single data point. Instead, the CDC does surveys and they say, hey, did you get a shot or are you likely to get a shot?

which is ridiculous. They should actually just tell us the data. And 15% of people on these surveys said, yeah, I took a shot. But you can't figure out, are they fully boosted, partially boosted? What's going on? So it's at the most 15%. I think sometimes people overestimate things on surveys anyway. The reality is it's probably far less than 15%.

So Macri and Prasad in no way can get out there and say 31% should be taking the shots. David, do you know any people who are taking COVID shots now? No, no. So I guess the thing is, how do we assess the next move here? Do we just let it fade out to passion? I don't think that's acceptable. I think something this criminally bad should be continually discussed.

until there's justice or some kind of recognition. I don't think we just let it fade off into the sunset. Is it not true that the FDA has just approved more mRNA products? Didn't that just happen? The FDA has approved a messenger RNA RSV vaccine for Moderna, which is doing very poorly, by the way. Nobody wants to take an RSV genetic shot. And recently, Moderna had a combo COVID vaccine

flu shot those messenger RNA and they just withdrew it. They just pulled it. So no, I think it's actually going backwards. The next move became apparent to me in the Senate hearings. So when we were pounding away on safety, I listened carefully and the minority here, which is Senator Richard Brumenthal from Connecticut, who's a lawyer, and Josh Green from Hawaii, who's the governor, both pro-vaccine,

they didn't argue once on safety. They didn't say, oh, the vaccines are safe. The only thing they kept saying is they kept asserting a false pharmaceutical advertising claim that the vaccines save lives or saved lives, almost as if they were justified, that we had to take people's lives to save lives. So the next move here, David,

is to really do expository work on the failure of the vaccines. The vaccines never saved a human life. The labels for the vaccines do not claim that they save lives. So the FDA doesn't agree with what Blumenthal was advertising and what Josh Green was saying.

And there are no prospective double-blind randomized placebo-controlled trials that show the vaccines saved any lives. There's no valid observational studies that show the vaccines saved lives. There's three things that actually made the COVID mortality rate come down dramatically. And that was developing natural immunity. We all got it through the period of the pandemic. I estimate about 97% of Americans have had

the illness of natural immunity. Number two, early treatment. And, you know, people got early treatment. My patients who are vaccinated were so afraid of COVID, they were the first ones to get early treatment. They weren't protected by the vaccines. They were actually, you know, beneficiaries of the McCulloch Protocol early treatment approach.

And then the third thing was the virus clearly mutated to be a milder virus, David. It's a mild virus. Now, you can't even tell it from the common cold. So how does that proceed in the Senate? Is there going to be another hearing about did it save lives or what? Is that the next step? Senator Ron Johnson is like a sledgehammer.

And I anticipate there's going to be hearing after hearing after hearing. You know, he picked up on the cover up of myocarditis, which is really reverberating. I was listening to Fox News last night and they had Nicole Sapphire on. She's in my frequent contributor group at Fox. And Nicole's pro-vaccine. She's actually a vaccine supporter. Even she said this is not supportable.

So, you know, the tide is turning. People, you know, have called this out. You know, the Israelis were communicating with Israel.

Our U.S. public health officials, this is early in 2021, they had 62 cases of myocarditis. They had two Israelis die of this heart damage. And our U.S. CDC, FDA, and NIH, and actually lots of people in the White House, they covered it up. Wow. Why were they covering it up? They were just hell-bent on making sure everybody got that product? Or they really liked...

I mean, obviously we know the government is really in bed with these cartel pharmaceutical companies, but why else would they be so hell-bent on that? I think you hit the nail on the head. They were hell-bent on getting a needle in every arm.

And they wanted to overlook any problems on safety to get the entire country vaccinated. David, I didn't buy it. I didn't take these vaccines. I'm a doctor. I've studied this very, very carefully. They were never safe enough for me. They were never safe enough for my patients or my family. Yeah, you were early on.

Yeah. And, and, you know, I don't know if you took the shots, David or not, but. It took me a half a second to figure that one out. You know, but I remember you and I was early on, I'm not touching that stuff with a 10 foot pole, but I remember you were the first doctors I remember seeing.

One night I was in sleep and I remember pulling up and I saw you, I said, man, someone with these credentials and you were calling it a bio weapon early on. And I said, man, this is serious. You know, someone with his credentials would not be saying such, such shocking claims if there wasn't some serious reasons to do so. You know what I mean? So that was the first, you were like a canary in a coal mine for me. I said, Oh, there's something here, you know?

Well, you know, there actually is a book called the COVID Canaries and it's written by Chris Klotz. And so if you check out his Substack Canaries, he's always featuring, it's very well written. You're right. Doctors should always err on the side of being very attuned to safety.

And so when I opened my opening speech, I said, well, like, what was my role in the pandemic as a doctor? You know, I wasn't on the White House Task Force. I wasn't in HHS. What was my role? My role was to fight disease, treat COVID. I did that and published the most widely utilized approach in doing that for the world.

Number two, preserve life. And I did that with every fiber of my soul. And then the third part is above all, do no harm. And when these vaccines were in the design phase and I realized that they were messenger RNA that was synthetic, that the human body couldn't get rid of.

and they were the genetic code for the lethal part of the virus, the spike protein, the spine and the surface of the virus. There's no way to shut it off. Once the genetic code is in the body, David, there's no way to shut it off. I said, this is a horrible idea. Some people, they're not going to be able to shut this down. The spike protein is going to eat them alive. The spike protein was devised in this Chinese biosecurity lab. That should tell you something. This spike protein is a human killer.

Now, you know, I still am haunted by that study with the pigs where they did the mRNA and they all died within five years, right? So is that, I mean, a lot of people have said, well, you know, that might still happen with humans here with these products. Is that something that we should be concerned about, that there's going to be a continual surge? I mean, you're seeing it yourself, so you know. The U.S. FDA has guidance for genetic products, right?

and Pfizer and Moderna and Janssen, which is now off the market, AstraZeneca, they're all genetic products. And the guidance says that we have to watch out for safety problems for five to 15 years. And I put that into the congressional record now over a year ago when I was the lead witness on a congressional panel.

Five to 15 years and sure enough, most people took the shots in 2021. We're still seeing cardiac arrests in 2025 with no explanation outside of that they took a COVID-19 vaccine. Our chain of logic is that it causes minor damage in the heart,

and the first manifestation can be a cardiac arrest. Recently, the Japanese in a paper by Kozumi showed that in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology. There were people who took five and six shots who presented with cardiac arrest, and they had a characteristic micro scar pattern in the heart. So David, I'm afraid that people took the shots may developing small micro scars in the heart and they don't know it, and then boom, one day they have a cardiac arrest.

So what is, if someone took just the first two shots of the original, what is that, what are the spike proteins and what's going on right now in their body that we know of? What can we speculate or what can we know after this many years? You didn't do any more, you didn't do any boosters. You just took the first two like most Americans did, or at least they took one of the first two, I think, for some of these folks.

Part of the secret or the clues that we're following here is we measure antibodies to the spike protein as a proxy of how much spike protein is still stimulating the immune system. And I've been shocked to learn even after one shot in 2021, the antibodies against the spike protein are sky high in 2025.

So let me give an example. How does that compare with those who just got the virus itself? Well, the test lays out from normal is less than 0.8, but it goes all the way up to 25,000 units. Someone who's just had COVID a few times, they're typically under 1,000 on this number. And then it goes down over time.

someone who's taken at least one shot, even four years later, they can be five or 10,000. If they've taken two or three or four shots, they can be 20 or even over 25,000 years later. So now three studies, one by Alden and the second one is by John Cantazaro at Neo7 Bioscience that was done here in Texas. And now reports are coming out of a German lab

all are showing that unfortunately for some people, the genetic code for Pfizer-Moderna is reverse transcribed into the human genome.

Meaning that people's genetics are permanently changed, and now human cells are producing this Wuhan spike protein with no ability to shut it off. And it's going to cause disease. People who have kids could pass it on to their kids. Right. Could pass it on to their kids. We're seeing all kinds of crazy syndromes now, and it may be the fact that we've genetically altered mankind with Pfizer and Moderna. Yes.

Talk about a God complex. There you go. It's pretty, you know, what do you think of some of these? What's the gentleman who just joined the czar? He's the czar, and he's saying he's going to be critical of the vaccines. He was in the Daily Mail. Is it Assam? I can't remember his name.

I just saw it in the news. It may be Steven Hatfield, who was on the inside of the first Trump administration, and he was locked in a battle against a vaccine promoter, Rick Bright. Hatfield was aligned with Peter Navarro, and Peter had reached out to me about early treatment. At that time, we had hydroxychloroquine. Later on, we moved on to ivermectin and other drugs.

But Hadfield has been reinstalled. He's got a position. And so we're going to see, you know, we're going to see a struggle here. But I can tell you, I think the problem is right at the very top. Trump is perfectly aligned with Biden on this. Trump and Biden are buddies on the vaccine.

They both perfectly align. It's one of the few things that Trump agrees with Biden on, and that's the COVID shots, and they support them. Wow. I think it's Callie Meath that's going to be the Surgeon General nominee pick.

Is there any with Casey means or Cali means? Have you heard about that? People get them mixed up. Her real name is Paula means. So I think changing their names to kind of like the Bobsy twins is really confused people. But to my knowledge, she actually has not been officially nominated to the Senate. I imagine that's going to die because, you know, she never finished her residency and

And so she's a junior doctor. She's a resident and she's misrepresented herself. So what she did is she said, well, I became so disillusioned with medicine, I dropped out to write a diet book. And everyone's like, that doesn't pass the sniff test.

And so, the LA Times did an investigation. They called her program director and they said, come on, what really happened? And they said, the program director said, listen, she had a nervous breakdown and she dropped out and she never returned. So, she's not even qualified to be an attending physician. She's never done a surgery, you know, as the doctor in charge. She's not qualified to

you know, manage complex medical patients. So someone like that can't be surgeon general. There's no way that a million highly qualified doctors are going to pay attention to somebody who dropped out of their residency. So it's interesting because somehow Kennedy has kind of owned this

this, this nomination, because immediately when there was pushback, Trump got out on Fox News and said, listen, I don't know her. I've never met her. So Trump is immediately washing his hands of her. I mean, they should just drop her and, you know, pick some highly qualified people. There's highly qualified people in the public health service and, and all over, you know, why do we have to, you know, have a resident, a resident dropout? That's just an embarrassment.

But is there a candidate that you think would be a good contender for this that would be qualified to speak out against the vaccines and everything? I guess maybe you shouldn't say it if you don't want to, you know. Well, I mean, the word I had was Dr. Kelly Victory, who's on the medical board with me at the wellness company, was strongly considered. Now, she's been the chief medical officer of major companies. She's an ER physician, an

She completely knows what she's talking about. Very senior, you know, great in the media. I mean, you couldn't get a better pick. I mean, she knows how to, you know, basically be an executive over thousands of doctors. I mean, why end up with a medical resident dropout who's never even managed a single person?

You know, there's just it's just an astonishing thing. So, you know, what people have said is that when things like this come up, it kind of shows you.

that whoever's in charge, they don't have much experience. They don't have a sense of kind of how things work, at least on the medical side of things. Yeah. Now, they just released the Maha report. Did you get a chance to see that? And any thoughts on some of the things that they covered there? Well, they had four major bullet points. I paid attention to that last one about over-medicalization.

And just a few comments. You know, the real problem is excessive vaccination. I think that's what's really harming the children now. It's not, you know, the medications are to treat the problems that the vaccine causes. So, for instance, vaccination is tightly related to attention deficit disorder, which is 11% of kids right now. It's like, come on.

You know, this idea that the medicines aren't causing the ADHD. It's because, you know, there's a root cause. Same thing with allergic diseases. So asthma, atopic dermatitis, all these secondary upper respiratory tract infections, you know, food allergies like peanut allergies, they're all linked to excessive vaccination.

And so we prescribe medications because the kids have all the problems. Well, we have to get to the root problem. So the Maha report was really short of getting to the root problem there. I do think there is excessive use of medications, particularly in the elderly. The problem there, David, and I prescribe medications, is that the consumer demands them.

And so the consumer demand part of the equation was not in the report at all. So they think like, well, doctors are pushing drugs on patients. Well, I don't push drugs. I mean, I don't receive any income on whether I prescribe one drug or another. They go to the pharmacy and the pharmacy and the drug companies make the money. So the report fell short. I think people are disappointed. I don't think it's going to be quoted too widely.

So what do you think needs to happen here to get some real results out of this maha moment? Because this is different. This is ostensibly, you know, rhetorically at least different than any other health administration we've had, right? You are pointing out some areas where they're falling short. Where can they get on their saddle again and get some real results that will matter for people as it pertains to their health?

But the excitement is that there's a populist movement for having America get healthy again. And so Trump recognized that. I think Kennedy uniting with Trump really assisted Trump in winning the presidency. So they have to capitalize on that populist movement. But in my view, it cannot be done without bringing the medical orthodoxy in.

So if I was running the show there, the first thing I'd do is I'd call a meeting with every chief of medicine and every major medical center in the United States and every medical school. We'd come to Washington and we'd start to review important issues. The first one would be COVID-19 vaccine safety. Everybody would have to see the data in the room together. And the process, the leadership process is to frame the issues,

And an issue is, should the vaccines be pulled off the market, have discussion, gain consensus, and then from that meeting, now we have all the chiefs of medicine agreeing the vaccine should be pulled off the market. I mean, that's the type of leadership we need in Washington. And in order to do that, and it can be at several different power positions, we have to have very strong doctors. And right now, we don't have them.

So in your opinion, you need to bring in into the actual positions in HHS actual medical doctors who are leaders in their field. But is it the case, though, that there's not a lot of the top leaders in these different fields that would speak out about the vaccine like you have? I mean, isn't that kind of the catch 22 here? Well, how you do it is the major medical centers, their income is linked to National Institutes of Health grants.

And so, you know, if the message comes out and says, listen, you know, if you want to continue your gravy train of government money, you better show up to Washington for this important meeting. So there's a way to reel them in. Another way to do it is say, listen, you receive Medicare funding.

And we're asking you, come to Washington. Otherwise, we're going to be paying a visit and scrutinizing your Medicare funding. You can get people to a meeting. All you have to do is get them in the room and start showing the data. That way they can say they've never seen it before. And it will be terrifying for a lot of these doctors to face reality because they recommended these shots for their patients, their family, their

They had institutional mandates. You know, something similar happened in 1964, David. Luther Terry, Surgeon General, talk about a strong physician. He called all the major chiefs of medicine in Washington and said, listen, I got bad news, guys. Smoking causes lung cancer. The doctors were told this in 1949 by Sir Austin Bradford Hill, and they denied it. They denied it for, you know, for 20 years, just about.

And the denial was over with the Surgeon General's report on smoking. That's the type of leadership we need now in Washington. What's stopping it? What do you think is stopping it? Just lack of knowledge or experience in this matter? Or is it just a desire to kind of soft pedal any kind of critique against the pharmaceutical system? I think it's right at the top. I think it's Trump. Trump doesn't want to see anything to go against these vaccines.

I wonder why that is. Is there any indication as to his thinking on the matter that you've been able to ascertain? It's identical to Biden. So whatever it is, it's Trump and Biden are in bed together. I was not thinking much. I don't know what that says about what Trump's thinking. I know. But we have to look at this. You know, Trump has been so strong about how he's doing better than Biden. Everything that Biden did was bad. Well, wait a minute. Let's talk about the vaccine. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's a shame that he won't touch that. I don't know what it is that, that keeps him from telling the truth on that matter, but you know, it's not, it's not something that's going to go away. Apparently it's going to continue to have more problems with those types of antibody numbers after what, four years, what is this? How many years? And I mean, goodness, that's not a good sign. And now this German lab is able to measure spike protein in the blood. They don't have a very sensitive antibody.

ELISA assay, but they are able to see it within cells. And you know, the spike protein is there physically there in the body years later. It's just horrible. And I agree, this is not going to go away. You know, I know Wayne Root pretty well.

And Wayne's a good friend of Trump. Wayne's a media host out in Las Vegas. And he says every time he puts questions in his queue for on the vaccine with Trump and every time Trump and his team scratch him off. Trump, you know, he's just wishing this will go away. And I got news for him.

It's not going away. You're right. It's not going away. It's going to be relentless. Every time there's a hearing in Washington, more people show up. And you know who shows up, David? People who have been injured from these vaccines, damaged by the vaccines. And they are furious. They will wait in line for hours in order for America to hear the truth. Is there any indication of reform for the VAERS system or anything else so that people can have more access

have more accountability with these injuries being able to be held and heard? Kennedy has aspired to have radical transparency, said the safety system needs to be overhauled. I know the VAERS system well. What's in VAERS is very good. It's very accurate. There's nothing wrong with VAERS. The problem is it's grossly underreported, grossly underreported.

So, you know, the estimates are maybe 30-fold underreported. So for that 19,400 Americans who have died from the vaccines. Now, we know that VAERS implies causality because doctors who report these deaths to VAERS, they only report deaths where the vaccine has caused the death. And I know that's the case for me. I would never report just any random death.

I would report the vaccine deaths to VAERS. And the first, you know, several screens of the report are the doctor. So it's very much, you know, on the doctor to be truthful. In fact, there's federal fines or imprisonment if we're not. So believe me, what's in VAERS is solid. It's just an underreporting. So what needs to happen? Again, if I was running the show in Washington, immediately I would have the CDC report

match up the National Death Index with the vaccine administration record immediately. And then so we can see who's received the vaccine and who died and you know, in what type of timeframe, then I would match the National Death Index with VAERS. So someone who was hospitalized, because they took a shot, a lot of times there's no follow up, maybe they died

A few months later, now a recent report. It's out of my focal points sub stack written by Nick Holscher, epidemiologist at the McCullough Foundation. There's a paper from Korea. You're going to be shocked with this. Nearly half of people who had a vaccine serious adverse event, like being hospitalized with something after the shot, a few months later, nearly half are dead. Wow. Goodness.

That's insane. There's got to be accountability for this. And like you said, this is not going to go away. We're going to have to have justice at some point, you know, and it's going to have to, you know, I don't know that the amount of control that these pharmaceutical companies have over the United States government, it'll be an apocalyptic reckoning when they actually...

have some accountability for once. I mean, that's really going to open up. It's kind of like, you know, it seems like there's a woodchipper effect that happens to all the courageous folks in Maha and Maga. You know, you have...

These guys like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino talking, you know, before they get into the administration, we're going to release all the Epstein files. We're going to find out all the shenanigans around the shooter of the potential shooter of Trump. We're going to get this done. We're going to get that done when they get in there. Oh, that's nothing to see there. Everything's fine. And the same thing goes for the Maha stuff. You know, we're going to Kennedy's talking a big game about the vaccines and how criminal Fauci was. But yet here he is.

And, you know, I'm sure he's under immense pushback. We're not trying to belittle the effort that he's probably, you know, put it out there to get things done. But there's some kind of a wood chipper effect that all these big promises and they hit something unseen that we don't see when they get in there, you know? Yeah, I think too much goes back to Trump.

And that's the reason why all these things tend to die. You know, another one, a big one is, you know, all the secret documents about the U.S. involvement in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Yeah. Do you know they are sitting in the Office of National Intelligence? Really? The Director of National Intelligence. And that's now Tulsi Gabbard. And before her was Averill Haynes. So it was Averill Haynes under Biden.

And that was one of the few congressional votes in the last eight years that was unanimous. There was a congressional vote that said, "Release the Wuhan documents. Release them." Averell Haynes refused to release them. To this day, Tulsi Gabbard comes in, she won't release them. Listen, they're taking... Is she saying she won't release them? No, she's not saying anything about it. Like you said, David, a lot of these things die.

So you're right. When one is truly an independent public citizen, like I was in the U.S. Senate, you can see what we can do as citizens. But as soon as the citizens become government employees, boy, does it change. Yeah, something happens. How about Rand Paul? I know he said he had all the information to nail Fauci about some of this. Is that something that you're expecting to be a part of in a Senate hearing or something? Yeah.

We've actually had entire books written about the fact pattern on Fauci. And recently, it was said in one of these interviews on Capitol Hill that indeed,

Fauci probably approached Biden to get his 10-year pardon. It was Fauci's doing. Fauci knew he had committed crimes. But they're well laid out in the very first book was Peter Bregan's COVID-19 and the Global Predators. RFK wrote the real Anthony Fauci. You saw Rand Paul's book on COVID.

Anthony Fauci, and of course my first book, Courage to Face COVID-19. So Fauci is, I think, undoubtedly committed two major crimes. One is fraud in multiple levels. He didn't tell America the truth. And the second is mass negligent homicide, that he worked to suppress early treatment to Americans where we can save lives. And then he worked vigorously to push the vaccine, which cost American lives.

But here we are today. Robert F. Kennedy is secretary of HHS. Kennedy now has dropped any discussion of Fauci, even though he wrote. Yeah, that's so strange. Which is an indictment. Yeah, he's dropped it. No special counsel assigned. None. And think about this. Fauci reported initially to Trump that.

And then he reported to Biden. And through this entire time, Trump has never said anything bad about Fauci. So it goes back to Trump. Well, that's disappointing. But we can only hope that maybe with continued public pressure one day, we'll be able to – it'll probably be as – it'll probably be like a lot of this, like if they can get away with it, they'll do it like the Kennedy files where decades later people still don't know the information. Yeah.

They'll do everything they can to bury all of the accountability for any of these crimes against humanity. In the meantime, though, I want to give you an opportunity to direct people to things they can do to have good health, keep their metabolism high. I know that's important if you want to deal with all these vaccine injuries and viruses and so forth. So tell us where we can go to find that out.

Well, David, you know, out of my Substack yesterday was a breaking WHO report on yet another COVID strain. It's called NB 1.8.1. And it's spreading across China. So yet yet another COVID wave.

So make sure everybody should use a nasal spray and gargle. My favorite is by a company called Clear, X-L-E-A-R. Do the nasal spray twice a day, sniff it back, spit it out, blow it out, and then gargle twice a day. The companion gargle is Spry, S-P-R-Y. I just did it this morning. And the reason being is the virus can be up in the nose for about five days. You never feel it.

and it's just building building ability drains back to the throat that's where you you feel the sore throat first but you've missed your opportunity for five days to flush that sucker out and let the immune system fight it off so nasal spray and gargle twice a day don't wait until you get sick

Go to the wellness company, TWC.health forward slash courage. Get a home medical kit. There's all different varieties of these. The most extensive one, David, the one for you is called the field kit because I can tell you're kind of a prepper. You're ready to handle the next apocalypse.

The field kit is a heavy, indestructible case. It has the biggest array of critical drugs, antibiotics, other things that you would need in the setting of an emergency. It's going to help you manage a dirty wound in the setting of a hurricane flood and stuff like this.

And then travel medical kits. I'm about ready to depart for a trip to Africa. So for sure, I am taking my medical kit because I've already been warned on malaria and African sleeping sickness and everything else. So I'm going to be ready to rock and roll with the drugs if needed. So go to the wellness company for that and make sure everybody is losing some weight, getting fit. And we're learning that there's a value in immune boosting.

So one of this company has a product called healthy immunity and it has a variety of natural products in it. Another one I like a lot by another company is called healthy cell, the immune super boost. And we know that vitamin C, zinc, vitamin D are immune strengthening, but also so is oregano, for instance, and garlic.

We know that green tea extract

And there's a variety of elderberry, for instance, echinacea. These have a role. So I never used to take them when I was younger. And over time, it seemed like I progressively get sick more easily. I'm taking immune boosters now, David. I think it's a wise thing to do. So make sure you do all of this. Most of the products you can find at The Wellness Company, go to twc.health/courage. Make sure you sign up for my sub stack and focal points.

It's a leading sub-stack out there. And David, I've got a new book that's going to come out in August, and it's about...

vaccine myths. It's really actually about this false religion that has grown up around vaccines. And it's a long history. It goes back to smallpox. Oh, wow. So when will that be out? That'll be out when? That'll be out in August. It'll be written by bestselling author John Leake, and I did the medical parts to it. But it is going to be

And it's going to be an eye opener because what happened during the COVID vaccines and everything we talked about today happened back in the mid 19th century with smallpox. Wow. Similar playbook. Wow. Yeah.

Well, thanks again, Dr. McCullough. It's always great to have you on. Appreciate your courageous speaking out in the committees. And like I said, I told you before, you should be like Benjamin Rush, a founding father, get into the politics maybe. But we do need you in the medical world. I don't want you to hit any woodchippers in there either, you know, like Tulsi and Robert Kennedy. Woodchippers.

They hit a wood chipper machine. They go in there and they're all, and then just come out and everything's fine. Nothing's wrong. Well, no, I think we, we work to expose a lot here. You know, I was asked in one of the press briefings right after the hearing, you know, about RFK and Trump. And what I said is that, listen, as a citizen, I want to see better. And I'll reiterate this on this show. America should demand better out of, you know, out of both of those people in those positions.

That's right. Take care. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

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