Ray Peat Meets Magnetism: How Physics Informs Biology with Dr. Yu and Matt Spearman
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Well, we're back for another exciting show. And this is one of those shows that's a crossover show. Why? Because...

Whenever we have Dr. Yu, it's usually for a special Science and You segment of the show where we dive into physics and its implications for other disciplines and fields of study. But we're also having our guest today, Matthew Spearman is with us as well, who has been on our show frequently recently to talk about some of the insights of Ray Peet's bioenergetic research.

paradigm of biology and anatomy and all of the ways in which the human life and life itself is a little bit different than what the textbooks tell us. So first I wanted to have Dr. Yu. Thank you for joining us again, Dr. Yu. Thank you very much for having me. It's so great to have you on before we end this year too, by the way. What an exciting year. Next year is going to be bigger than ever before. Can you imagine?

Looking forward to next year. Yeah. Now, Matthew Spearman, also so glad to have you on and thanks for joining us.

It's a pleasure to be on as always, David. Yeah. So you sent me this thing that you had posted on Twitter on your account, which is SphenoXiphoid underscore in between Spheno and Xiphoid. That's the post. That's the Twitter handle you have. It says the electromagnetic signatures of various antibiotics, amphotericin, vancomycin,

Metro, Metro, how do you say that? Metro dies. I think it's Metro. And it is all okay. And it is always going to always go with your first instinct. We're recorded, transferred into plain water and ended up significantly inhibiting the growth of bacteria, fungi, and parasites. Now you screenshotted the abstracts of some of these papers, uh, where you highlighted things you wanted us to be aware of. Um,

Would you go ahead and just summarize some of this for us? Yeah, so there was research done, and I guess the one critique you could make about this is these all seem to be done by the same people. Very different points in time, but the same people. What they did is they took

various antibiotics, so one of them specifically for bacteria, one for fungi, one for sort of microorganisms, parasites. They recorded the electromagnetic signature of these different compounds. I don't completely understand the details of how that's done.

But they did that and they later then imprinted, so they projected that recording using probably a coil, a copper coil or something, into water, I guess into a petri dish or something. And it ended up having fairly significant inhibition, growth inhibition of these microorganisms, of these bacteria, fungi, comparable to...

the real substance, the actual physical substance. They also use shams and controls which demonstrated that this wasn't just a coincidence. And I think this is interesting here because these are done on three different types of organisms. You have fungi, you have bacteria, you have, I think it's a protozoa or something. So it demonstrates that this is not just sort of a fluke. If you can't repeat a study

it's so it's worthless. So the fact that this was repeated over three different, three different types of life was fairly significant. And it shows that what we understand is biology or chemistry, pharmacology is very much electromagnetic, as opposed to sort of the current paradigm, which sees things as physical lock and keys and

And everything like that. So I just thought this was interesting and had to post it because it's something that given the changes that should be occurring over the next four years, this would be an amazing opportunity to continue to decentralize medicine.

If you could have antibiotics that you use from your phone, from your computer, you know, prescribed, quote, prescribed by, you know, a professional or someone who knows what they're doing. So you're not just necessarily doing something that may harm yourself. But I think this is a very interesting, to say the least, and applicable or a topic that's very much going to be relevant over the next few years, I think. I think so.

What do you think of this? Oh, I would think of this magnetic feature of antibiotics. I try to say the reason we need antibiotics is we use antibiotics to cure, to kill bacteria, right? And the fundamental feature, you know, there's one important feature of the bacteria is the

bacteria acted like a bar magnets. It has a magnetic field. I believe because of this bacteria, the property of bacteria, they have just acted like a bar magnets. So that's why I believe

if we can deliver drug, right? And the antibiotics based on the magnetic feature. So that's why the drug can find the bacteria, locational bacteria, when you swallow the bacteria through this magnetic field.

So I believe the fundamental reason we needed an electromagnetic feature on antibodies is because bacteria, that's the target we wanted to kill, right? Cure them. And it's because they have a fundamental electromagnetic properties.

I think you're right there. You talked about how a reason why I thought this is interesting for you is that you and I have talked about for years from your physics theory, for those who don't know, Dr. You is the founder and discoverer of the Yuan theory, which is the universal particle theory. Everything is one made up of one particle, one law, one force, one field, right? And one universe. And so, um,

in this paradigm that Dr. Yu has worked from, he's been able to make very interesting predictions about how other things in other fields of knowledge might actually operate. Once I asked him years ago, publicly, even on radio, live radio, I'd put Dr. Yu through the ringer. I'd grill him about every kind of concept to see if his physics theory could give us some fresh insight or something.

that would help us and i'd say well if your theory is correct that every particle is a magnet little dipolar particle having both positive and negative poles that means our bodies are made up of little magnets tissues made up of little magnets and are going to be operating in a similar magnetic principle way then uh how would you deal with something like cancer and he said well i would uh

believed that probably, according to my theory, cancer would be treated by something like antibiotics. And I thought, that's the strangest thing I've ever heard. What does an antibiotic have to do with cancer? And I started doing so, and he explained it from the physics theory. So would you explain it from the physics theory of why you thought that would work?

Okay. So yeah, let me explain, see if Matthew would agree. Okay. Based on my theory, all the cells, basically every single particle are made by magnetic particles. So the so-called cancer cell. So what's wrong with cancer cell and the health cell? So that comes with my fundamental theory. The normal cell is an electromagnetic neutral cell.

So that's why every single part of the cell is closed. Why they can close is all the particles made up the cell, the cell materials are magnetic particles. So they are north and south, south and north attracted, forming a closed surface, which make the cell as a neutral. Whenever you have a magnet, you form them a closed circle, you will see it's a magnetic neutral because of every positive cell

field, where immediately meet with a negative magnetic field, magnetic force, right? So every single point in space, that field we are talking about, the points in space, if you measure magnetic property, because of positive and negative, they are formed together. They touch together in a closed loop. You will see this is basically is a neutral cell. That's where I consider is a neutral cell is the most stable cell.

because it's a cell, it's a healthy cell, there are no external attraction or disturbance. So that's why I consider it as a neutral normal cell. However, once the normal cell becomes damaged, so that's what I consider the so-called cancer cell, it can grow

why is it uncontrollable? It's because it becomes damaged. Which part of damage is instead of a magnetic positive and negative attract to each other from a closed surface. Now you have an open area which may have a light pole and opposite

opposing each other. So that's why you cannot close themselves. So that's why you have a fluid from inside, energy from inside, a fluid outside, you know, a t-pound,

growing. So that's where you form the tumor or something. So that's basically my structure of say, what is a normal cell? What's the cancer cell? Cancer cell basically is damaging the normal cell. What part of damage is it because the positive and negative part of the cell are not continuous, cannot be connected.

So how to cure them? One is how the normal cell becomes a cancer cell. My theory is if you have some kind of disturbance, break the original called neutralized cell. You have disturbance, you know, have pulled your whole, I pulled some material constantly throughout, break the balance of north and south for me. So now you become damaged cells.

And how to keep so that's basically is a disturbance from external and what part of it is where the support of the normal north and south pole and naturally connect each other. So in order to cure them, I said, hey, antibiotics. And I learned one thing about antibiotics is antibiotics is a self.

I don't know if it's manually or something. The anabolic trace to find this bacteria location is based on electromagnetic field, actually. It's a sensing.

So some false sending, I know right now there's a research to say, Hey, we make a nano magnet, magnetic nano cell somehow encoded on antibiotics. So make it a faster delivery, uh, delivery to the location, to the right location, to kill antibiotics, uh, to kill bacteria because bacteria is the magnet bar magnets, right? So that's, that's one way, but, uh, but also another, uh, my understanding is, uh,

Antibiotics itself can cure them through what? Through its own, just like glue, you know. Somehow it can make the damaged cell, the damaged cell, you know, disturbed, is no longer magnetic, you know, neutralized, like a positive and negative, connected. So this antibiotics itself has a magnetic feature and somehow can heal them. That means make the damaged part.

to be a heel towards a normal cell and somehow, so through their electromagnetic properties and seal those leaking part or something. Yeah.

or neutralize neutralize whenever you have a cancer cell you that means electro electromagnetically is no longer neutral right so that's why it attracts materials from adjacent bodies fluids or something it grows

However, if you have antibiotics, it has its own magnetic feature. So it makes neutralize those cancer cells, those non-normal cells, magnetic field. So they just like feeding materials and make those electromagnetic ties, electromagnetic ties apart become neutralized. So that's the number thing, the stop is growing.

And the number two thing, once you stop it's glowing and the things becomes, because it's no longer in fast motion, the growing that means constantly in motion.

Once it stops growing because it's stabilized, then magnetic north and south would naturally attract to each other, reorienting each other and through and to attract them each other and seal the only the section. So that's how the, that's what I believe how the skin, cloud skin forms.

when you have an open cut and the blood flow after a while eventually the healed skin. What makes them healed is because every single particles in the bloodstream or in your body it has a magnetic feature. Eventually they will be oriented by environment based north and south so that they attach each other and eventually steal them.

So that's my basic understanding of the cells and the bacterias. Does that make any sense? Matt, what do you think? I think that's very interesting because the body and all living organisms, by nature of having, like he's saying, by nature of having any sort of transmembrane potential, any sort of charge, they're going to generate an electromagnetic field. And

sort of related to the studies we were talking about earlier, but there is a lot of research showing that post electromagnetic field therapies, so very low frequency electromagnetic fields,

and I don't know if these are in vitro or in vivo studies. I don't have them up at the moment, but they have been shown to be effective at restoring, you know, everything that goes wrong, all the genetic things that, that start to go wrong and, and metabolic happenings in cancer cells, pulse electromagnetic fields help reverse that, help restore that. And not just for cancer, for, for pretty much everything you can think of. So,

In regards to cancer or whatever else, a lot of times it's just the electromagnetic field of the cell is for some reason is disrupted. And the goal should be to help restore itself so that it can function as needed.

Now, I just had a question for Dr. Yu. How important do you think electromagnetic fields in cells and eventually tissue, how important do you think those are in regard to eventually determining the structure of living organisms? So for cells to form this sort of beautifully intricate and complex and just...

Amazing structures. How important do you think electromagnetic fields are for that? I know that's a very broad question, but... It is a very good question, actually. You know the reason I believe this is called... Electromagnetic force is the only natural, we call it natural force, natural existed called physical force.

in the world. So you ask me the importance. It is electric. The only force is the electromagnetic force to hold atoms, hold particles together. There's no other force.

We were talking about many, many what is biological, you know, subatomic force, atomic force, and also molecular force, right? So they all, you can categorize, they all belong to electromagnetic force. So it is electromagnetic force forming the binding of all the particles in the world. And it is also the electromagnetic force

That's the fundamental force for genetics. You know, why each person develops differently, right? Because of a magnetic force can not only can attract and also can repel. What does that do? It has a selective. It's not like a...

makes can something makes that no, it has its own law follow its own law like Paul repeal unlike pull a track so that's why for one different structure and that's where comes the genetics so why different genetics, you know. have a different baby you know have a different the rabbit different features and something it's all based on the fundamental structure.

And what's the difference between... So why we have the fundamental structure difference? The structure is based on the magnetic force has a north and the south can attract and repel. It has selected somehow. Just like say, if you have three magnets,

form a triangle, or four magnets for tetrahedral, three-dimensional triangular shape in space. So that's what a diamond shape is. Because triangular shape is the most stable structure. So that's what I mean. However, if you have eight magnets, say four by four, like a four by four cube, you have to have eight magnets.

forming six faces, a cube, right? So that's what exactly, that was a grass, that's grass structure.

So then you can easily to flexible to bend or deform. You know, so all these structures, but for by all human beings. So this structure would be more complex than a triangular or cubic shape. It means that the structure would be more complicated. However,

All these complete structure is depends on is based on magnetic north and south interaction and based on the different number of particles north and south attract, you will have a different structure and that's the structure depends on every species.

every genetic inheritance or something. So I believe this, you ask me the importance, this is a fundamental force for formation of the universe we have, formation of the life and include the biological beings. - Now, where do you think light comes into play? You know, light from the sun, assuming that-- - Wonderful, see,

I'm talking about every single particle, right? Made by magnets. So now you say, hey, what is light? And if you ask further, electricity, sound, heat,

They all related based on the magnetic property. Let me explain to you with light. Light, you know, the misconception about the light right now is called a photon. The particle of photon is an electromagnetic, the neutral particles and the massless and traveling through space. So that's why, you know, somehow traveling in space and have a frequency, right? That's what we're talking about a photon. So you see the concept of photon is a completely wrong concept.

So light has nothing to do with photons. There is no any... So whenever we see light, light is actually the vibration, it's a wave, the vibration wave propagation. Does that make sense to you, Matthew? You know the difference between wave and particles?

Yes, yes. At least at a very basic level. Yeah. So let me just give you a little bit of difference about the light wave difference versus particle theory of a photon. So say, based on Einstein's theory, light is a particle in a photon with mass. You know, it never makes sense to me. How could you have particles without mass?

Right? And can, without the mass, and how can, and have a volume. So what, what, what's in the volume? What's make it as a particle does not make any sense to me. So I made a further study. So say, hey, the current, say photon, just like a ring straw, or like a bullet, you know, flying across the space, this concept have nothing to do with light. So what I'm talking about the light is,

there is an electromagnetic field in the empty space. So the space is not empty actually, it's full filled with electromagnetic field. So the vibration, so an energy electromagnetic field, the analogy will be the water in the pond.

just like a water filled out of the pond. Whenever you have disturbance for the pond, you throw a pebble in the pond, you know, create a wave, right? So if you look at the wave, every single particle in the pond, every single particle starts to motion, right? Because it's induced by the pebble.

And this motion, every single particle's motion in the river are relatively stationary, rather than say vibrating up and down on the surface of the wave, vibrating up and down. But no particle travel along the surface. So only things that travel along the surface is the wave.

What made the wave all the particles of the water particles in the pond and every single water particles are moving up and down. However, the propagation of the surface of the wave, that's the medium. The vibration medium is propagating. And the reason the medium can vibrate and can propagate is because the medium is elastic.

whenever you push one thing, the adjacent is connected with like a spring elasticity, so that's why it can create a wave propagates. But if you ask further, what force make this elastic medium, just like say electromagnetic medium is elastic medium, so that's why it can travel, can transmit a light wave because of sound.

like a thermonuclear explosion on the surface of the Sun, it creates vibration in the medium, in the medium, the electromagnetic medium, filled out of the empty space. So, the medium started vibrating, so that's why all lights are associated with a frequency, because vibration requires frequency. And once this vibration frequency reaches visible light frequency, so we can see it.

So what is transmitted light from a light source, say the sun, transmitted to our eye? It's because the surface of the sun started vibrating and created the oscillation or vibration of the medium. And this medium is elastic.

It's elastic, so once the medium vibrates, of course, no particles really traveling from sun to our eye. Whatever the sun did is just vibrating, exploding, throw something up and then the gravity pulling them down, right? So what they do is create vibration of the electromagnetic medium around the sun or between the sun and the earth.

And this wave, vibration wave, the wave front, and propagates due to this elasticity of the electromagnetic wave, right? So propagates to our eye. So when we see sunlight, what is really going on is no particle travel from sun to our eye, no. It's only the particle next to our eyes vibrate due to disturbance of the surface of sun, created the electromagnetic wave.

Does that make sense? I just wanted to let you know my explanation of the sun. So now explain the relationship between the light and the magnets, right? You thought, how are you talking about this? What's the relationship by electromagnetic properties with the sun?

Whenever you have a vibrating electromagnetic field, that's the sound. That's where the electromagnetic field next to your eyes, the particles, the magnetic particles vibrate to your eye. What they do is they created, they made the eye, what's the pupil, right? The pupil particles are also made by magnetic particles.

The external oscillation, the light wave is an electromagnetic oscillation. That electromagnetic also created the particles in your pupil and oscillates. When your pupils particles are oscillated, that creates the internal electricity. So that's why it goes through your brain, goes through your body, and then you can sense the light. So the property of light is due to the vibration of magnetic particles.

Okay. And I assume air, so the air that we breathe is along those same lines? Yes. The air, you know, we normally say air is neutral, right? If you have two magnets,

air, two magnets, the natural state is, if you can imagine two bar magnets, right? They're in parallel, the north and the south, if they are in parallel, are neutral. So the atoms normally appear as neutral particles, the air particles, but actually oxygen is not, oxygen is charged.

Whenever I'm talking about the charge, so-called the electric charge is actually the magnetic field force. So the charge and the magnetic field are the same thing. So what I try to say is, hey, the bigger particles in the air, we breathe or something, we consider those particles are normally neutralized particles or slightly charged like oxygen, hydrogen, charged particles.

However, I'm talking about this electromagnetic field, the field that avoids between these large particles. In my estimate, the particles made out of this electromagnetic field would be billions of times smaller than oxygen or hydrogen or electron size.

Now, what would you think is more fundamental, at least from your perspective? Let's say the Earth's electromagnetic field, sort of that thing that it gives off versus sunlight. Do you think that there's a hierarchy there?

in regards to living organisms? - Oh, we know lots of living, including antibiotic, including what is the, the bacteria or animals, you know, something, they're traveling, right? They all can sense Earth's magnetic field. So we know Earth is a magnetic body, right? So, and all the living beings,

are related to Earth's magnetic field. So that's where they have a migration or traveling. You can always sensing the all based on the electromagnetic properties. So can you repeat? So which part of your question? I do not believe I catch all the parts of your question.

Yeah, I was just wondering if you thought that there was a hierarchy in terms of the importance of various forms of this electromagnetism. If you think about a living organism has to eat, has to breathe, it is likely going to be exposed to sunlight.

And then, like we were saying with the Earth's electromagnetic field, they all go in to influence the living organisms, electromagnetic fields at the cellular level and then at the level of the organism. So I was just wondering if you had any thoughts on if one of those sources was more important in your mind or if they're all sort of even.

Oh, not even. Yes, you said the high order control. Whenever, you know,

the very basic vacuum filled with electromagnetic field that I'm talking about, those particles make up the field are billions of times smaller than whatever particles we discovered in quantum mechanics. Okay. So, you know, the space always, all fields, this kind of electromagnetic particles. So that's why forming electromagnetic field. But these fields are good only right now, good only transmitted the light, right?

the sound and the electricity, transmitted electricity is very minimal. In order to transmit electricity, you have to have a particle bigger than this is the form of the vacuum electromagnetic field. So like the body is like atoms or we're talking about the electrons. So the bigger particles, so you can, you have a stronger magnetic field. So then you can transmit it through the body, through the solid coil or something, you have electricity.

electricity and the light are the same thing it's vibrating it's also vibrating on magnetic particles so created a moving magnetic field you know vibrating man so that's why i create the light and also create also create electricity in the body because the particles in the body are stronger

magnets, you know, bigger particles. When they vibrate, they transmit it as electricity. However, the high order, I believe, when you use these particles, bigger particles, forming basic structure of a body, basic structure of cell, let's say, it's bigger. The cell can compose of millions or billions of atoms, you know, right? Or even molecules, you know,

millions of molecules. And when you have this physical structure, so each structure formed by the particles are much bigger. So they have a bigger, stronger magnetic field. So that's why these forces are more dominant.

to forming the human bones, human blood and skins, forming different parts of human body. It's the only difference. They're all formed by magnetic particles. The fundamentals are all small particles. The difference becomes structure. Just like, say, if you have four magnets in space,

they are naturally were formed called the tetrahedral. That's a three dimensional triangular shape, tetrahedral shape. Or is that right? Bottom three and the top one. Okay, yeah. So when you have that structure shape, so now,

Now, the structure, you know, the structure, in order for this structure to grow, the other particles connected with them, it has to be three sides of the magnets in order to match their negative positive pole.

So that's why it can grow. So diamond can be grown through the seed, fundamental structure. That's what the genetic genes is. They provide the seed structure and everything else in order for them to grow, it has to grow exactly matching positive with negative connection, negative with positive connection and the same structure so that things can grow. So I believe a dominant force would be once you have structures,

So now electromagnetic force based on the selective, so you have to match exactly the same structure as a base structure. So that's the dominant force. Create all the elements. Why it's all the elements created, you know, pure elements in order for them to, from a discrete part and connect to bigger pure parts is their structure at the boundary have to match exactly.

Okay, thank you, thank you. Now, sorry, David, but I have another question for Dr. Yu. Where do you think human consciousness comes into all this? How much do you...

How much do you think your own consciousness can manipulate this magnetic field? You think about the idea of placebos and the stories of people who undergo serious injuries and they think themselves healthy. They believe it healthy. They can call it miracles or prayer. And then you have the other end of the spectrum where people think they're going to die. Maybe they get a misdiagnosis and they end up killing themselves through their own mind. Yeah.

What are your thoughts on that? You know, you asked basically three fundamental questions. One is the formation origin of the universe, right? Origin of the universe. Now I said the origin of the universe is just based on the magnetic particle. Every single particle is a magnetic particle. So that's why it can form an entire universe just based on the structure. So number one, formation of the universe.

Second thing is the formation of life. So we are talking biological human beings, different cells. The origin of the life is also based on the structure of the magnetic particle, the formation of structure. Now you ask the third, that's the three basic origin questions. So third one is origin of consciousness. So you ask, so what kind of consciousness would impact

impact for the human recovery, right? So I want to make sure the number one, the so-called human consciousness, the origin of consciousness is a magnetic field. So what our definition of the consciousness is awareness of existence.

Over distance, we basically can say, we can't aware. So the consciousness is awareness of self access and awareness of adjacent environment. So what causing something can't aware of the self and aware of environment? The only thing it can do this one is magnetic field force, magnetic force. Only magnets nearby, if you have a magnet nearby refrigerator,

It will automatically pull you towards the refrigerator because the magnets attract to the metal, right? And so that attraction is before even contact. So that awareness, so that's where I believe all human organs, especially mind, are aware of through magnetic interaction or magnetic field interaction.

So this is the only force based on my theory. Magnetic force is the electromagnetic force or I simply say magnetic force are the only force and can make awareness possible. That means we can aware something over distance.

Say like this one right now, we have a NASA has it with the Voyager spacecraft, right? 77 is almost 50 years from now. And we can still receive the signal. So how could particles, not the human, so instrument, how could the instrument sensing something is already over solar system, is already go beyond solar system?

through what are the electromagnetic signals, right? And that's the same signal for human being. We have identical twin, they sensing something the same time, like some words are epilepsy or something. Because it's sometimes through, it is through the electromagnetic field.

So all the same things are through this one. And I believe with this kind of evidence, millions of evidence of speaking twins, they said, oh, they have same cells, even they separated from the afterborn and after years, and they find out they have the same hobby and the dress, the same thing or something, right? Something they do connected through the electromagnetic force. So I would talking about the

the consciousness is the property of magnets. So that's called the magnetic field. So that's what the consciousness is.

Now you're talking about how your consciousness, you know, cure something. I believe whenever you believe something, you have a stronger, stronger frequencies, vibration frequency. You know, human cells or consciousness is just a vibration of electromagnetic field, right? Just a vibration wave. And this wave just have signals because certain vibration

you feel happy, certain one feels angry. So all these feelings are due to different frequencies of vibrations. And so I believe when you believe something and you have a stronger electromagnetic field in that frequency, and what happens, you can resonate, you can magnify those frequencies.

And so that means you have a stronger magnetic field. I believe you can attract to the like kind of what is a line kind of salts or line kind of people include the similar kind of materials and structure, I believe can help you

grow something you believe. And then that sort of falls in line with faith, with prayer, with sort of even magic too. Yes, that's right. That's the power of the prayer. Yes, you're right. It's electromagnetic. Yes. You know, people, whenever people agree with you, you will find out that they resonate with you.

resonant with you and you will find that, you know, the more people the same way, the field was very strong because they resonate in the same frequency, right? People agree with you. However, sometimes you were somebody suddenly walking in somebody, everybody quiet and that frequency is not a constructive wave, not a vibrate same way. It's different. It's opposite of frequency.

somehow, you know, cancel your something. So you can sense that one. So I believe that's a part of the mental belief versus physical reaction. Amazing, amazing, really. I wanted to say that, yeah, when you have more people excited about something, you can feel the energy in a room. You know, I do public speaking and I can feel the temperature and everything change. And it's like a dance.

When you get into a certain resonance of unity with the minds and the emotions of everybody in the room with you. And I remember the power of that happening from a, you know, from an audience member's perspective. One time I was covering a Trump rally in Tampa Bay. This is in back in 2016. And I was covering it in the media and I was right up at the front.

And Trump said, he said, and he was talking about a shooting that had happened just down the road in Orlando at the Pulse nightclub. And he said, I guarantee you if that gentleman right there, and he pointed at me, he said, if that man was with guns on his sides and they took one look at him, there would be no shooting as what they were able to get away with. Let me tell you that.

And when he did that, people all around me for the next 20 minutes were trying to get photos with me and taking photographs of me like they couldn't understand that. I was like, I'm not a celebrity, man. He just literally picked out a big dude that he saw in his eyesight. And, you know, but but the the magic juju that Trump had the crowd at the palm of his hand like a.

you know, orator, you know, he had sprinkled some of that dust my way. And that just by osmosis had created this kind of enamored experience that the crowd had towards me for a little bit. So there is certainly so much truth about the idea of resonance that Dr. Yu and I love to explore. Isn't it interesting, Dr. Yu, what you can think about? And we've attached this to memetic theory, and there's so much work to be done there that we can't wait to share some of where we're going with it.

Yes, when you create a resonance instead of one person, yeah, of course, you just need one person. Once you create a resonance, that means everybody is resonant with you. You see the entire environment, the field where, you know, based on the electromagnetic field theory, you know, the resonance can create almost infinite magnitude. So that means the power is so strong.

you can almost turn blind people to be seeing or something, you know, yeah, a huge impact. And you were talking about how we can grow diamonds. And I just want to ask this question, Dr. Yu, without going too far down this topic, but wouldn't that mean that we could grow gold too? My goodness.

All elements, all the elements are grown from the smaller. When we talk about the idea that the streets will be paved with gold in the future of Earth, that's a real reality that one day, you know, gold could be so, once we understand the principles of how electromagnetism undergirds all structure and order in the universe, including our planet, we can figure out how to harness that more intentionally and have

street paved with gold one day. But don't tell any of the people that have all the gold right now. They won't want to hear about that. Right. I agree. You know, I don't believe current physics theory says everything heavier than iron created by, you know, supernova or something, not even in solar system. I disagree.

Yeah, I believe everything created something. You do not need a supernova, those kind of power. You can. As long as you have some kind of accidents or something forming the gold structure by random, by purpose or by random, when you have the base structure, everything you can grow based on that structure, you can turn other material into gold. I do believe it.

Hey, Matthew, could you tell them a little bit of your fascia light stuff and some of the things about how the body communicates through color and stuff? I want to hear what Dr. Yu says about that. Yeah, well, he kind of hit on it with the consciousness thing is in order for a living organism like yourself to just exist and to stand up and walk and think, it takes a tremendous amount of coordination and practice.

and power and that coordination has to be almost instant

There can't be any delay because if there is, if you think about every time you take a step, all these muscles are firing and then you're slightly tweaking your spine one way just to stay balanced. Nerves can't explain that completely because they're a little slow. Hormones definitely not. And so that's when fascia kind of comes into play as this multifaceted sensory organ thing

that for a long time because when people studied the initial uh anatomy studies were with dead people um with cadavers and such you didn't really get an appreciation for what the fascia is people thought it was more of just a wrapping a casing which it certainly does that but

It transmits mechanical information because everything is connected and even all your cells eventually connect to the fascia. So just different movements, different positions will be sensed by the cells. It can help transmit light.

bio photons and then electromagnetic fields at the same time. Dr. Yu, have you heard of this concept of the fascia? It's like this little wrap that's on our muscles and stuff. Is it made out of gelatin? Oh, yes. I do have this called sensing theory about the human sense. So maybe you mentioned about the incident coordination. That's a very important concept.

You said it cannot be like a herm... what is it? You use the word "cannot be like something else". Something has to be traveling almost instantly. Right now, we consider the faster traveling speed of light, right? Yeah. So actually, what is the closer to speed of light? It's the speed of electricity, right?

So all the human sensing and the incident coordination is all based on this is a very strong, strong evidence of electromagnetic structure of the of the world.

I don't know, Matthew, have you played many magnetic balls? I don't know if you have played or not. I bought like 5,000 small magnetic balls. I can form letters, forming columns, forming different shapes, right?

There's no problem, right? We have a group of magnets and we can form any structure. You know what can make the entire structure instantly change? You just throw one magnet ball into, say, if I form an Eiffel Tower. Okay, I use a magnet ball. Carefully. If you just throw one actual magnet ball into the Eiffel Tower, you know, 99% time, instantly collapse the entire tower.

The transmission is instantly because of magnetic positive pole. Whenever you, if you're above some like pole, so they repel somehow changing the structures, the magnetic particles orientation, changing one entire structure sensing right away, collapse the entire structure, will collapse right away.

So that's exactly what I feel is like if you have somebody touching you on your end part of your body, you're sensing the entire body instantly. Just like the entire body is in the coordination something. The only force is the electromagnetic force.

And just through one, you can change an entire field. That means the entire field can feel the touchiness. Yeah, I think that's displayed well with somebody's posture. You know, people, there's a big, you know, people know or talk a lot about body language and everything. But you can tell by somebody's posture if something is bothering them, whether it be emotionally or physically. Let's say someone has a stomach ache and they're sort of collapsed forward on their chest.

on their, you know, protecting their stomach. That is like you're saying it's an electromagnetic phenomenon where one thing... You said instantly the posture were changing, is that right?

Exactly. It's going to change your posture and it's going to change how those magnets you gave the analogy of the Eiffel Tower. You know, it's very much like that same thing where in order for it to stand tall, it has everything has to kind of be in line and you just have to throw one thing into the mix and it can it can really mess it up. No, I don't think living living organisms are very robust organisms.

But I think when you deal with a lot of the things that people are doing today, where it's just a nonstop assault on our electromagnets, you end up with the things that people are experiencing in regards to changes of their physical form and eventually how they're feeling, how they're operating. It doesn't, that in itself is going to be electromagnetic. I agree. I like your term.

Instant coordination. Yeah, everything that you said, the entire body has to be coordinated instantly, right? The same time almost. None of the other human reasons can move. It's almost at the speed of light, right? Matt, you said it's a color though. Did you talk about that? How color would play a role in communicating this information instantly in the body?

Well, I think colors in regard to the sun, because the sun, you know, as a major source, as we're talking about, of light and what that means. The sun very much determines our natural cycles, and people know that as their circadian rhythm. But...

in yourself, we're, we're not only producing electromagnetic fields. Part of that is light bio photons as they call them. Uh, and that goes on to act as that sort of instant, uh, coordination, um, because light doesn't, it doesn't, you know, light doesn't need to diffuse into a membrane. It can travel pretty much instantly. Uh, now the colors of that light, I think we haven't necessarily deciphered at the moment where it's still very much a, uh,

a new topic of study, but they used to do color therapy. They called it, what was it? Color chronotherapy or something like that. Yes.

It was popular before all the goofballs took over and monopolized healthcare, but they were doing some stuff with that where they would expose the body to different colors for different effects. Yes. I think that needs to be re-looked at again. I know there's some people doing stuff like that, but I think it needs to be brought into the thought here. Yeah, my explanation. Okay, I just give my explanation and Matthew, you can comment later afterward. The difference between color...

The speed, the propagation speed are the same thing right now, right? We are talking about the electromagnetic field, you know, the field of vibration. We are not changing the speed of the propagation, speed of light. We are not changing that. The only difference between different colors is the frequency difference. The vibration at a different frequency.

So now, so what is the frequency most healthy for biological beings or biological Earth? Green color. That's why most of the things are green. And if you look at the green color is among the light spectrum right at the middle. The visible light spectrum right at the middle is a green color.

Any other color means higher frequency. So that means your organs, natural organs, everything, the trees, the grass, everything grows on Earth, basically harmony with this green colored frequency. Normally, so that's why they are not reject each other. They are more compact towards each other, is the green color.

However, if you want to increase the color, say make people hate or something, make different colors, then you're changing different color means you're changing different frequency. That frequency instead of resonant with your frequency, that may resonate a part of your part.

biological parts or maybe you're rejected by other parts. So you just use a different frequency vibration and the resonance and the trading different parts or creating different environment, different feelings, something. Matthew, yeah, what's your take?

Yeah, that's just the various frequencies are just used to communicate various or just different information, you know, with the sun, how it tracks during the day when it's, you know, red. That's you're kind of relaxed because that's when it's sort of low in the sky in the morning or the evening when it's sort of the higher frequencies in the middle of the day, the blue, the ultraviolet. That's when it's most stimulating. That's when you're going out and and getting stuff done.

Um, and, and, and that sort of thing. I, I like the idea about the green being the neutral, which is very, very true. Uh, and, and probably why being amongst trees, uh, is so therapeutic. I mean, there's multiple reasons why, but that's, uh, definitely one of them. Uh,

What's interesting to me, I think, with this is infrared light and how fundamental it is in a lot of organisms. And specifically with you've probably looked into structured water and Gerald Pollack, his work where he demonstrated that.

infrared light was the most potent at creating a charge separation in water next to a hydrophilic membrane, so sort of like a cell membrane. Infrared light is the most potent at creating that charge separation, creating a potential. So essentially charging, electromagnetically charging living organisms, infrared light does that. And then

um, considering our own cells generate an infrared light, we are actually helping to charge ourselves. And so once you get healthy, once you, once you do things that feel good, whatever's helping you produce that sort of infrared light is actually creating sort of this positive feedback loop within yourself. I think that's a testament to, um,

Just the genius design, if you will, of the body of living organisms. So that's just what I wanted to chime in there. I 100% agree with you. Yes. Yeah, I think it's a fascinating thing. Matthew has written a lot on trying to help people in the tradition of Dr. Ray Peet and others like it about putting infrared light around you in the nighttime if you need to use

light for work to be done you know moving your phone's uh screen to red saturation rather than blue light and avoiding a lot of blue light now i remember the first time i ever met dr u he was explaining to a crowd of people the dangers of blue light so dr u why is blue light bad in your opinion in the way in which it's used in electronics at night and so forth

Oh, you mean LED lights are too bright to sometimes hurt a human being? Yes, because the blue lights have a shorter frequency, which means it's higher energy than normally a human being can tolerate or something. So that's why it hurts your eyes.

you know, destroy some certain cells and allow some functioning, you know, so yeah. So yeah, so those LED, strong LED, the blue lights, then whenever you have a higher frequency, that means shorter wavelengths, you relatively have a higher energy, but that's not a really problem, not a really reason. I believe the reason, right? Okay.

human beings easily to do mild light instead of higher because that frequency destroys your natural body's frequencies.

So instead of helping you heal, healing is resonant with your body, how you feel comfortable. But it's opposite to your body. What is? Blue light? Yeah, blue light. Yeah. Blue light, I believe that's too strong. The shoulders, just like ultraviolet, you know, is a higher frequency than light.

infrared, right? So the human being, maybe body for body, normally for eye, comfortable eyes, right? A little bit, you know, like a

natural green light frequency most suitable for human being psychologically, I believe so. But for the body, Matthew just mentioned infrared, some kind of therapeutic effect or something healthy. I believe bigger particles, you know, the body particles are bigger. Bigger particles, they have a resonance frequency is lower. So

So I believe infrared could be, you know, interact, resonate with some kind of body part, you know, which is less than some, you know, green or something. However, the blue lights higher. Oh, one thing I cannot tolerate is police car. When they start something, there's ultraviolet lights.

It's being out. It hurt my eye so big. I have to look aside whenever I see that one. It hurt me because number one is a higher energy. Number one is another resonant is a distract, distract my natural frequency of eye, eyeball. So that's why it hurt me. Matt, does that fit with where you're going with light or what?

Yeah, yeah. I also see it as, if you think of things in terms of frequency, it's kind of like a musical note. And the sun, because it's producing so many different frequencies at once, it's like this massive chord, this massive, beautiful chord that's playing. And then when you just, if you try to just take out one note from that, you

you might, it's not going to sound as good. And so for, you know, our case in blue light, because it's that sort of higher energy, higher pitched, uh, frequency, it just, it's kind of, uh, detrimental in, in that form. And, you know, this, the same can also be true for, for some of the infrared lights and the, and the green lights, when you do get those isolated frequencies, because they're, they're not as, as high energy, they're not going to be, uh,

bad necessarily in regards to you know in a similar manner as blue but it's not quite as good as as say from an incandescent bulb or from fire or from the sun uh so that's at least how i think of it as i equate it to uh to sound which if you know if everything is electromagnetic then it would make sense that there would be that almost direct parallel um there so

I agree. So natural light, the mix, right, makes a different frequency. You feel more comfortable. Instead of a single light frequency, I believe it could always cause problems. Dr. Yu, from the physics standpoint, why would plants and animals produce more productive results when they hear classical music? What's going on at the electromagnetic level?

I believe just like Matthew mentioned about the pitch. If the pitch is too high, classical music can never have a very super high pitch, right? Yeah.

So their pH is more melody and more harmonious with human natural frequency. So that's why you feel happy. That's what Christmas music is. If you look at Christmas, they all have a therapeutic hour because they have a relatively low frequency. And some, what is that, low frequency,

you know, vibration field is more harmony with your natural body motion. Yeah. At least the old ones. Some of the new ones are a little annoying, but yeah, the old ones. Oh, you have a new... You know, I don't want a lot for Christmas. It's not as good as Silent Night. Right, yes. You see, there are differences, frequency difference, right? Yeah, that first one is making me nauseous. Yeah, that's what the pitch means. Yeah. Yeah.

I think this is all very fascinating, but I think we'll leave it here. Any last thoughts, guys, or questions for each other? I just thought it was fun to bring two friends together. Matt, I've gotten to know you just recently, but I've just found you to have a great mind and curiosity for the human body. I'm looking at your Twitter page right now. You've got stuff about that. What is this muscle called? P-S-O-A-S? What is that?

The psoas muscle. That's what everybody has when they sit in the office too long, right? Psoas, yeah. What is that about? It's just a muscle that when humans became upright and we had to balance ourselves, it

It became extra important in order to maintain the posture of our spine, of our lower back, because the lower back is a spring. It keeps us upright, but it's a spring, and it's meant to absorb energy every time we walk. Same with our neck.

And so this muscle controls the mechanics of the spine, the posture of the lumbar spine. And a lot of people dealing with lower back pain today because they're not moving enough. And in general, their electromagnetic fields are under attack and they're degenerating. And your physical posture, as we talked about, is going to show that. And I just wanted to talk about the psoas muscle here because people...

People are often, you know, complaining about it and everything. So, yeah. Well, I wanted to know, can you explain the Gilbert Ling cell thing real quick and see if that resonates with Dr. Yu?

Honestly, I'm not well versed enough in Gilbert Ling's theory to explain it to Dr. I want to get a Lingian on for that one then. Yes, yes. Do you have any recommendations you can send me? I want to do another session with that topic. I'm sure there's some other Peters out there, some bioenergetic people who are more well read into Ling than myself. So you

you, if you go down that route, if you start exploring those people, they, uh, you probably can't go wrong there. So. Well, I appreciate your time. Any last thoughts or questions for each other? Um, well, I just, I just wanted to say, I think it's great to have some sort of, uh, some, you know, bouncing off ideas off of somebody who's maybe, uh, you know, more of a physicist and then somebody who's more of a, you know, interested in, uh, in biology to, to connect these things. Cause I think there's, uh,

the, the centralization of health and, and just science in general that then compartmentalizes and reduces everything. Uh, it, it takes the wonder out of life. It takes the beauty and the magic out of life. And when we're able to have this conversation and basically tell you that your health is a physics issue, uh,

And, you know, able to sort of explain it and explain all of these happenings in a manner that makes sense and is intuitive and doesn't leave people asking, you know, more questions, you know, in a confused and bad manner. So I think getting this information out there for people is great. And I like talking about it.

You know, Matt, and I'm going to let Dr. Yu close us out here, but, you know, Matt, it's interesting to think about, you know, you could get T3. If people need produced T3 production, they could get the structural frequency of the T3 hormone molecule and listen to it in their headphones and probably do just as well as taking it actually, right?

Yeah, I actually have a YouTube video where I, where I did that. Um, it's on my, my channel. I can, I can link it for you. Uh, but all, all those things, if you go to infopathy.com, you can look it up. They have a huge database. They have the equipment that you need. You can use, uh, speakers, uh,

Because it is, again, it's an electromagnetic phenomenon through the medium, but they do so. I have found that their equipment is a little more, they have some coils, some like Tesla coils or something that are not Tesla coils, but electromagnetic coils that are a little more potent. But there's thyroid stuff. There's all sorts of vitamins, minerals, you name it. It's on the database. Info what?

Infopathy.com. Infopathy. And they got the clips. You can listen to them there for free or you got to. Well, that, that, that one's on my, on my YouTube channel. I don't know if I was supposed to do that, but I put it out there for advertisement purposes. I'll also link my YouTube channel like that to you. So if you want to share that, you can and try it for yourself. If you're doubting it, you want to give it a go. Be my guest. Dr. You, any final thoughts?

Thank you, David. You forward the X post on Max. I believe that was a couple of months ago or something. I thought, wow, somebody really touched the importance of catching up on the magnetic feature of the antibiotics. I believe this is really touching the fundamental force of

that made out of the universe. I thought, wow, this is a great application and somebody smart really observed the relationship between the electromagnetic things and the human bodies or something. I thought that's a great application

Great articles, great fund, David. And I'm so happy. Yeah, it's fascinating. It's an honor to communicate with the author directly. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for coming on, Dr. Yu. And, you know, it's interesting to think about playing the audio of those antibiotics and what that might be able to unleash for people's health in the future if we have better open minds and joining into the medical community. Hopefully, maybe with the change of

and so forth, we can unleash some more creativity and real healing into medicine again. Wouldn't that be great? That would be amazing. That's the goal. Thank you very much for coming on and, uh,

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