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The One Thing Everyone's Missing In the Gaza Destruction w/ Jason Jones

2025/5/22
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Jason Jones: 我曾经相信所有的宣传,认为巴勒斯坦人被灌输了仇恨。但实际上,地球上最不危险的人就是巴勒斯坦人。他们长期遭受围困、贫困和非人道待遇。如果我是巴勒斯坦人,我不需要被灌输仇恨,失去肢体和亲人的死亡就足够了。我们这些自以为是的人,实际上才是被灌输了仇恨。我们被反阿拉伯的偏见所迷惑,总是看到那些狂热分子在街上高喊口号的视频。我们应该成为爱双方的狂热者,而不是成为一方的狂热者。我们应该运用理性,而不是让情感控制我们。那些想要夷平加沙的人,是因为他们害怕。他们认为巴勒斯坦人是世界上最大的威胁,这简直是笑话。哈马斯的资金来自美国国际开发署和我们的盟友,而不是他们自己的人民。我们为什么要指望他们抵抗由世界上最大的经济体资助的暴力伊斯兰主义者?阻止这一切的唯一方法是耶稣基督的福音。

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to indoctrinate me i would just go hey where did my legs go hey where's my mother where did my children oh yeah they were melted by 2 000 pound bombs that fell into our tent city that would be enough but when you go there which i have done have i've been i've been david i've been have you ever have never been there i've been there

Well, we have with us the returning guest, the friend of the show and the director of the Vulnerable People Project, Jason Jones. How you doing, Jason? I'm doing good, brother. How you doing? He's back.

I'm back. Yeah. So you get back every week. We taught you you're in some other place around the world or you're coming back from it. So I'm in a very exotic place right now. Um, the hill country of Texas, the Germans, the hill people are wild. They're wild. They float the river drinking margaritas, starting fights. They're just a wild people out here in the hill country of Texas. Are they vulnerable? Not so vulnerable. Not so they are when they have too much to drink and they're floating the river. Yes.

How close are you to Austin, Texas by chance? Um, about 30 minutes. I hear that there's a lot of wicked, uh, district attorneys around there and stuff. Huh? Pretty evil. Yeah. You know, I'm not in this, you know, I'm new to Texas and I'm not here that much. So I don't know. Maybe it sounds, sounds like it'd be true. Apparently you're allowed to do whatever you want criminal wise and you get away with it over there. Well, fortunately for me, um,

I don't fall under their jurisdiction. I don't go there. I go there to look for vinyl records. That's about it. Like once every month. Oh, you said only on the Holy week, right? You go for vinyl record. I go to look for vinyl records and then I come home quickly. Yeah.

So you've been to abroad again, but I wanted to first start off because there's a video you did that's already got, what, over 3 million views, and it's a video from the Vulnerable People Project that you run, and it's about how you can't get all this warehouse of food, and we'll probably edit the clip so you can put it in the show so people can see what we're talking about. But, you know, you were saying you can't get the food into Gaza, right? What's going on there?

Yeah, well, I'll just kind of give you some background. I run a human rights organization. We also make movies. And so I was in Europe working on a film. When the Conclave was announced, as a good Catholic, I left Paris for Rome. And I had the privilege of being at the Conclave. And Pope Leo is about, he lived about two blocks from where I lived when I lived with my father. And his favorite pizza place is the first job I had, or Leo's Pizza. So that was kind of great. But I was there actually,

hopeful that Pete Zavala, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, would be the new Pope. And there was a lot of rumors, you know, a lot of hope. But although Pope Leo XIV seems absolutely incredible, and I'm so looking forward to his encyclical on transhumanism and AI, he's sort of pointed to by his name that we'll draw from Rerum Novarum. But while I was in Rome, I got a tip-off from a friend of mine in the State Department that President Trump would recognize the State Department

cost Indian state and that the trucks would be allowed into Gaza. So not missing a beat, changed my flight plans. And I went to Jordan to go to the warehouses where our trucks were. And I had printed up Chicago white socks banners. I wear this hat all over the world for years. And now I'm not a, you know, we were the worst team in baseball last in history last year. But this hack, this is the logo from when I was a kid. So you're like, that's the, that's the socks logo from the eighties and seventies, but we're printing socks banners everywhere.

Cause we're going to send in one truck in honor of Pope Leo, one truck in honor of president Trump, which will have Trump flags. And the Pope Leo truck will have Chicago white socks banners. So I was in Jordan inspecting our warehouses. You know, the food is rotting. It's been 90 days. Not all of this food lasts forever. Some of it does. The rice has about four months left. For example, we need to get these trucks in and you know, my hopes were dashed. I I,

I didn't get to ride in on our trucks and unload them. Our last food deliveries were about 65, 70 days ago into the churches in Gaza. So I was hoping to be on the trucks this time, but unfortunately I didn't. So I made a video just thanking Trump and President Trump and thanking Pope Leo XIV for their clear message that food should be allowed and must be allowed in

And I was shocked at the video. Like we're not very good on social media. I'm not a big social media guy. I use, I am kind of like, I'm a grandfather. I'm big with Facebook. Like your grandpa is like, I post a lot of pictures of my kids and stuff. But when it comes to X, I didn't even have an X account until my publisher required me to get one for my last book. So my team made this little video out of my bigger video that we made. And yeah, it got to like 3 million views in 12 hours.

And we don't even know why. So they're like trying to figure out, I think it was probably you, you probably tweeted it out there and got the Gronowski boost. We call it the, yeah, they call it the Gronowski boost. And, uh,

But no, we don't know why. God is good. You know, and I got a call from a writer from the Jerusalem Post basically telling me I was misinformed. There is no starvation in Gaza. As I was literally texting with my representative inside Gaza that works with the Christians. And he said, well, we are starving, but maybe they know better than we do. And so, yeah, we captured some folks attention for sure.

So what happened? Was there an audible call? Why was it the, how did you get that tip off and it didn't happen? What happened? You know, who knows? I think that Trump, president Trump really wants these trucks in, you know, he's, he's a man who hates war. Who's stopping him. He's the most powerful. I mean, you know, if I were president, the 82nd airborne would be falling onto Tel Aviv. I'll tell you what, but I think that, you know, he's, he's trying his best to,

to be diplomatic. And, you know, Trump is a tough guy and he's been tough with Israel. I love what he did yesterday with South Africa. That was absolutely tremendous. Um,

But we need something like that done to Israel. You know, but by the way, Israel's lost. You know, yesterday, Pierce Morgan apologized and said he was wrong, that it is a genocide. Now we just need Chris Cuomo to flip flop. You know, when these guys start flip flopping, I've seen this so many times. When I opposed the invasion of Iraq, it took about 10 years for people to admit. What do you think John Hagee will call it then?

Oh, he'll talk about the blood moons and the, you know, I don't know, whatever they ask him to. I mean, he just, you know, he cashes the check and he says what he needs to say. It's quite gross. Really embarrassing. You know, the Gnostic impulse and this superstition that leads to genocide. For those of us in Rio Linda, what would, just for those, you know, tuning in that are not familiar, why do you say Gnostic impulse? Just, what do you mean? What does that got to do with anything? You know, they, if you follow Hagee for a long time,

So always talking about things that are vague. And if you count four words, he treats the Bible like the Kabbalah. He finds hidden like the national treasure movie, you know, where you have the secrets. Yeah. The Bible is the Torah is, is like the Kabbalah. Obviously they don't treat the new Testament that way. Cause God forbid you'd read the letters of Paul, but we don't want to look there. Let's just pretend that doesn't exist. But, um,

Yeah, no, it's quite frightening to see people that we know that look like me. I get angry when I see people that look like me because I just assume they're advocates for genocide that appeal to, you know, ridiculous novels like Left Behind to advocate the slaughter of the descendants of the Jews that accepted Jesus Christ in the first century. We call those Palestinians. And I think they're being blessed when they're cheering on the destruction of the most sect, the most Semitic people on earth are the Samaritans, the Palestinian Christians.

So, yeah, they're quite odd. It's quite odd. It's interesting, right? It's Rene Girard says, you may have heard of him. He's a French anthropologist, David, Catholic man. And he said, you know, that whenever these enthusiasms of violence and hatred and scapegoating erupt in the midst, in our own midst, we're like, I thought we were different. And you should read the comments. We're going to do a documentary on Christian Zionism and

I just can't wait to draw from the posts under our videos of starving children because the comments are absolutely unbelievable. And these people probably, and my family and my neighborhood who think like this, it's just quite horrifying. I wonder where it comes from, that mentality of a lot of people are just super hungry for a scapegoat. And I don't understand if you follow...

the way of Christ, you should be hungry for a scapegoat. But people are really ravenous to say, like I saw somebody commented, I think, saying, that's not what we're going to do. We're not going to have this appetite for, hey, these people are completely dangerous. They should be wiped off the face of the earth. I don't know if that's just

That scene, is there any sanity left in that? What do you think? I mean, you know where the least dangerous people are on earth? What's that? Palestinians. I mean, give me a break. Give me a break. A besieged, impoverished people suffering a catastrophe for the past 77 years of brutalization.

and dehumanization. And they're actually, you know, you got to go there. I believed all the propaganda. I mean, I was still against mass slaughter, but I did think, wow, Palestinians are probably indoctrinated in hate. And by the way, if I was a Palestinian,

especially after the past three years, you wouldn't have to indoctrinate me in hate. My missing limbs and the deaths of my children and my relatives would be enough. I wouldn't need an imam or I wouldn't need Islamist money from overseas or US State Department money funding extremism to indoctrinate me. I would just go, "Hey, where did my legs go? Hey, where's my mother? Where did my children go? Oh yeah, they were melted by 2000 pound bombs that fell into our tent city."

That would be enough. But when you go there, which I have done, I've been, I've been, David, I've been. Have you ever, have you never been there? I've been there. And one of the things that was striking to me is somebody who really was inculcated in an anti-Arab and really a Palestinian bigot. I was a bigot without even knowing it. And we're so, you know, we're so addled with anti-Arab prejudice that

And I was. And you go there and I was teasing my friends when I was in the West Bank. You know, Americans believe you wake up every morning, put on a green bandana and like run in place with rifles chanting death to America, death to Israel. And they just they laugh. But it's funny. And it dawned on me there is a community that has been indoctrinated in hate. And it is us like we are the ones that have been indoctrinated in hate.

And I found now I'm sure you can meet Palestinians. They're insane. But most of the comments you see are from people and even this lunatic that assassinated this beautiful couple yesterday. They don't have skin in the game. He's some rabid leftist. You know, if you really cared about the people of Gaza, you would go door to door fundraising and find a way to get diapers and baby formula and ointment for rash.

You would do some spasmodic nihilistic act of violence. So, but you know, it wasn't a Palestinian that did this. This was a leftist in America who probably, I don't know, didn't know much and lacked the discipline. I always take the British quote, the discipline of the army is the rage of the nation. And I flipped it and I said, the discipline of the Christian is the love of Christ.

It takes discipline to build supply chains to get hot meals into churches in Gaza. It takes discipline to set up as a conservative Catholic apostolate to set up structures to fundraise to find folks that will fund, you know, that's not the easiest group of donors to find right your trucks into Gaza so

No, but we're the ones that have been indoctrinated in a vile hatred. This is something I have not seen in the Palestinians. And this is so hard for people to see. And that's because you've seen all the videos. You've seen the same videos a thousand times of fanatics chanting in the street. Okay, okay.

And then those, like the body of the girl that was in the rave party. Yeah. It was crumpled up in a horrific, that was pretty jarring. I got to tell you, you know, that was pretty horrific. And that one image was all over Twitter when October 7th happened, and it really shifted a lot of anger around.

Oh, me? What I said in my head, I didn't tweet it because I'm not a lunatic. I think a lot of things and feel a lot of things I don't say or do. But I thought flattened Gaza. The literally that expression went through my mind like a little neocon, you know, went through my head. I was so angry. We're allowed to be upset. Right. I'm really upset when I see hospitals flattening Gaza.

And then I have horrible thoughts go through my head. Then I'm angry, really angry again when I see a beautiful couple that's about to be married and engaged and married, assassinated, and then I have horrible thoughts go through my head. Yeah, I'm a human being. I'm easy. My emotions are easy to manipulate. No, I'm an adult. So eventually you've got to put a bit in your mouth, and you need to allow reason to control your emotions. Yes.

And when we see the brutality to Israeli civilians, we see the brutality to Palestinian civilians. Rather than becoming a fanatic for one team or another, we should become a fanatic to love both. We should look at a complex situation and say, how is a Christian man who's a citizen of the most powerful country in the history of the world that has access to people in power and has access to people with funds? How do I order my life

to make this world more peaceful and to make sure my country isn't culpable in brutality, isn't culpable in what Theo Vaughn called the worst thing he's ever seen. So I understand when people have emotions. It's embarrassing when adults allow their emotions to escape their intellect and they don't take the bit. And the bit is reason. You know, we need to use reason. And then our emotions can become our energy.

So what, you know, someone like a Benjamin Netanyahu, I see him like a Michael Corleone. I'm writing an article on him now comparing him to Michael Corleone. He was a young soldier, a young hero. His brother died. You know, he became radicalized. And like Michael Corleone, you know, Michael ended up killing his own brother and destroying his family. And now Netanyahu is killing his own brothers and he's destroying his country because he hasn't allowed reason. He hasn't, he never took the bit. He hasn't stepped back to see what is he doing? Um,

to the cause of a Jewish homeland in the Middle East. And being pro-Palestinian and pro-peace doesn't mean that I want to see an end to the state of Israel. What I want to see is Jews in the Holy Land and Christians and Druze and Muslims living in peace, whether it's two states or one state, or as a Christian friend of mine in Bethlehem said, she supports a three-state solution.

One state for Jewish fanatics, one state for Arab fanatics, and one state for beautiful people to live together. And I like that, the three-state solution. Yeah, we have a deep mimetic rivalry going on between those groups, you know, and it's sad how, you know, the Christianity is, you know, the Christian infection, as I call it, of the gospel, right?

is deeper than ever, but yet the church is still quiet. And it's good to have Pope Leo saying some things on X.

And I'm sure that had some weight there. It helped me a lot. Look, I've had Catholic news organizations say to me, hey, we can help you now. We can promote you now. It's like, wow. He gave you cover a little bit, huh? Well, Pope Francis did too, but I guess because he was branded. I don't want to diminish what Pope Francis did. He called in to Gaza every day. But here's the difference. Pope Francis called into Gaza every day.

Pope Leo talks to Israel every day out loud in front of the world. And when you're, it's one thing, it's nice to do these little quiet private things. I'm sure it means a lot to these folks. But I personally would have rather seen the Pope show up at the gates of Gaza and said, let the trucks in, you know? And that's effectively what Pope Leo is doing. A friend of mine that works at the Vatican said, have you hacked the Pope's Twitter account? His ex-account that I wish. Yeah.

But, you know, he's been really great. Well, what's to stop him to go to some place and like kind of like a like a Ronald Reagan tear down this wall moment? I would love it. Well, you know, yesterday Israel fired on a group of diplomats. People ask me, aren't you afraid when you go to Bethlehem or go to the West Bank? And I'm not afraid at all of the Palestinians. It's ridiculous when people like it's still dangerous there. When you cross into the West Bank, your GPS says you are now entering a dangerous area.

When I leave Israel into the Palestinian territory, I feel safer. I don't feel safe in Israel. How could you feel safe in such a violent country that where, you know, it's acceptable to spit on Christians. You spit on me and I'm, there's an international incident, you know, it's just not ending there. So yeah, it's, I feel very safe in Palestine. I feel really safe in the West bank. I, I don't feel safe in Israel.

I don't know how anyone could feel safe in such a violent country. Just yesterday, an IDF soldier came back from the war where his mind had been cracked and he shot up his neighbors, you know? And I think that's, I think PTSD is the best proof of the truth of Christianity. You know, I say PTSD is something I've wrestled with and my employees and people I work with wrestle with, whatever you want to call it. I don't like that name.

I think it's not post-traumatic stress disorder. I think if you're in a war zone and you don't come out a little shaken, you've got a disorder. You know what I mean? But we were created to love each other, not hurt each other. No one gets PTSD from being kind and loving. People get PTSD from hurting people. And that's because it goes against the very reason that God created us. And so Israel is a country now that's being shattered because its young people have been sent off. They've been indoctrinated.

and sent off to do vile things. And then they come back and they, their pilots have been blowing their brains out. I think at a rate of one a day, the pilots know what the Christian Zionists refuse to admit that they're committing atrocities. Right.

And they weren't created to drop. Reminds me of the rate of burnout that the World War II pilots had when they were bombing Dresden. They had to fix that, by the way, by introducing the field of psychology to replace religion in America. That's a great article you should read by Matthew Crawford. Oh, I want to read that because I am going to write an article on how PTSD proves the Christian theology. So Christian anthropology.

I would love to read that. Well, all of this is tied together, like the whole deconstruction of the father, the whole deconstruction of the family unit, of headship, of the church having a role, essential role in disputes within the family. All of that got totally filleted, especially after World War II, as a nice gift for the working class middle American boys that went off

to lay down their life to try to save people all over the globe. They, the, the, this is an article you can read in unheard.com called the, the, the sexual revolution was a government psyop. And it was the idea that I'd heard is awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, no, but you know, you look, you talk about religion and, and, and atrocity. Bishop Fulton Sheen, who is probably the most influential Catholic Bishop in the history of this country had an Emmy award winning TV show in the fifties in 1945, he was Monsignor Sheen. And, um,

Six weeks after the droppings of the bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, he gave a lecture at Catholic university condemning the United States. You look at Elizabeth Anscombe, probably the most important analytical philosopher in the English speaking world in the 20th century, famously devastated C.S. Lewis in a debate on his book miracles. He never wrote fiction. He never wrote nonfiction again after he debated this young student, Elizabeth Anscombe. And when Truman came back,

to speak at Oxford, I believe it was, or Cambridge, I think it was Oxford. She led protests, you know, that they were giving him an award because of the use of the atomic bombs. So, yeah, obviously, if you believe in God, you don't put all your eggs in this basket, and then you don't see means, you don't use evil means to any end. But you have to believe in God. And so what we're seeing is who the practical atheists are. Again, we saw with COVID. COVID told me who's afraid of death.

You know, these people were so afraid of death. Put your mask on. Get your vaxxers. They were so afraid of death. By the way, the people who want to they want to turn flat in Gaza. It's because they're scared. Right. They're scared. Today, the narrative is Palestinians are the most dangerous threat in the world. What a joke. Hamas, which has less guns than the cartels.

surrounded by an army pulverizing them with a population that's starving. And none of the money for Hamas comes domestically. It's come from USAID and our other allies. Think about that. It's not like they're, you know, only 6% of the people alive in Gaza voted for Hamas.

And they were goaded. Percentage again, say that again. It was 44% at the time. Yeah. 50% of the population today is under 18. Yeah. When you, when you factor in which percentage of the population was voting age, when there was the last election 20 years ago and what percentage of the population actually voted and what percentage voted for Hamas, which is 44%, they didn't win a single district.

Only 6% of people alive voted. I don't know why anybody has not used the line that I've been talking about in my coverage of this, which is, I mean, I know people have said it, but it's not been honed in on, which is, okay, if that's the case, attach that fact to the fact that Israel has been funding, creating, equipping, training Hamas for decades, since the 80s, and America has too. So in any basic logic,

Who is morally responsible for their Hamas atrocities? The United States government and Israel. I think anyone who funded Hamas should be strung up. So, okay. So why is that rhetoric not, how come, you know, the people who are, you know, I never hear that line. You know what I mean? Like I never hear that point hammered in over and over and over again. That's the point right there. That's it. People gaslight us. They don't, they want to pretend it's not true. No, they just want to pretend they want to glance right over that. And MAGA should accept it. Laura Loomer should accept it because Trump's,

You know, those revelation is that not only was the United States funding Hamas, we were funding Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hezbollah and Boko Haram. And we're just getting started. Unbelievable. I always say this. Think of this. Imagine there was an economy out there. We're a $28 trillion economy, right? Imagine what is the economy of Gaza, like less than that of their GDP of Milwaukee. Okay.

So imagine you've got the United States, Great Britain, Germany, Israel, some of the Gulf states, spending money in menacing ways to advance their interests across the region, Syria and Iraq and Lebanon and Jordan. OK, Libya, da-da-da. With their small GDPs, these people are overwhelmed, not access to capital or technology that we have.

And we're like, why don't they just resist violent Islamists funded by the biggest economies in the world? That's what I'm saying, yeah. And they can barely feed their families because we ripped their... It's insane, brother. Imagine if there was a country called Atlantis, and Atlantis had a $250 trillion economy. And every year they spent half a trillion, a trillion funding extremists here. White supremacists, cartels, gangbangers.

uh they used they did they used media to foment ethnic and religious division how long would it be before we would see america look like syria or libya yeah it's unbelievable we're headed that way though that we're headed that way yeah and the only thing we can stop is the gospel of jesus christ you know you're a very kind maybe you know i know you you're a big strong guy you're a wrestler you're a cop but you're a very kind gentleman i'm not like i'm volatile and

You know, I get in bar fights every couple times a year still, and I'm 53 years old. I'm always getting in trouble for this and that stupid thing. And I'm not advocating genocide. You know what I mean? I see all these, I call them the pumpkin spice Gestapo, walking around with their little Christian Zionist books that they, you know, saw on the 700 Club, that they would never say a mean word to somebody in public. They'd insult their wife in a restaurant. They would look the other way. But then they're on Twitter like...

They're the reincarnation of Amalekites. Wipe them off the face of the earth. Who are these people? Who are these people? They're weak. They're spiritually weak, and they're not grounded in the gospel, clearly. We don't need saints. We just don't need genocidal lunatics. See, that's the thing. It's like I totally don't even get –

This whole dialectic, because from the very beginning, I wrote that article at the top of World Net Daily, which is the top OG Christian Zionist website. They published it as a top story, which was my takedown of the whole thing. And I said in there, I said the point that we've been saying together for a long time. This was right after October 7th. I said, you know,

It's called the cross is haunting of the Holy Land, and you've covered it. But the point that I've never heard anybody answer it, which is how can you forget about which team we've got to say is the less evil? It's a case-closed story. The group that funded the killers is morally responsible, not the children they're killing. You can't get away from that. You could be the biggest Zionist in all that position.

You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. I'm like, forget the dialectic. And I have Zionists who hold that position. And I have Zionist friends who insist I'm a Zionist because I do think there should be a place for the Jews in the Holy Land, right? And it's not my decision if it's a one-state solution or a two-state solution. I would have liked to live in a fantasy utopia where Christians and Jews and Muslims could live together happily ever after and walk the same streets and high-five each other and play soccer together and football together and

I can go to their bar mitzvahs like I did growing up when I was a kid and they can come to my kids' confirmation and, you know, yeah, that's what I want, but maybe that's not the reality. But, yeah, you don't have to be, you know, we don't have to be lunatics. The people with the least skin in the game, honestly,

I have friends that are big time celebrities. I always tell them like when they get upset and how they're portrayed in the media or on social media, I'm like, you know, you're as real to these people as Scooby-Doo. You're just a pixel on a screen. Like Justin Bieber is just pixels on a screen.

So you can use calumny or detraction. When he was a young boy, people could say horrible things about a teenage boy that they would never say about their own kids or their neighbor's kids, right? Why? Because to them, Justin Bieber in their little brain wasn't a real human being. He was just pixels on a screen. Well, to these folks, the Palestinians are just pixels on a screen. That's right. I get ratioed on social media because I always...

When I talk about the Palestinians, I always talk about how I love going to the West Bank for their French fries. They have the best French fries. And they still have kids that ride their bicycles, new and papa wheelies down the street. And I see big wheels, you know, things that you don't see in America anymore. And they laugh at me for talking about big wheels and French fries. But I do that for a reason. Because in our minds, we think of Bethlehem as like in a storybook, where we think of the Palestinians who live in the storybook place,

as vile extremists who wake up at dawn every day and fall out onto the street in formation, you know, running in place saying death to Israel, death to America. And it's utterly insane because you've seen the same video 9,000 times. You've seen the same video with the father pushing his child towards the IDF 5,000 times. You think that every dead civilian is a human shield.

regardless of any evidence presented to you. You could see a sniper's shot Christian women walking to the bathroom in a courtyard and no Hamas around, nothing, and you look the other way and say human shields, Hamas tunnels. You don't need evidence. Why? Because you're indoctrinated. You're indoctrinated. You're simple-minded. You're vile. You're violent. You're cruel. Another thing, David Grunowski, I really believe this.

I'm a conservative. I was the most right wing person anyone ever met 20 years ago. In the past three, four, five, seven years, the right has gone to Looneyville. Right. The right has gone to Looneyville. And I never think I thought I really I saw racism on the right. But I really do believe Christian Zionism is a real expression of racism. It's the last place where you can say with a smile on your face, slaughter every brown person in Gaza.

So I think it's really like this eruption of cruelty and racism. And it's the one place that you can say the most awful things, which they say, and there's no consequences. It's unbelievable that you can have someone like Jonathan Cahn. Hand me one of those Jonathan Cahn books. You know, who says the most awful things about Palestinians being the Amalekites and

uh nonsense and again they use like kabbalistic techniques if you count five words over there's gonna be a blood moon four months in a row like all kind of nonsensical stuff that all leads to the same point we're allowed to turn the descendants of the families that were in the upper room into pink dust okay if that's what you get from the bible you're vile you're vile

And I always say to my friends, you know, who are Christian Zionists, I pray to Jesus, God, forgive me, you never repent. Because it's so awful to me. I don't understand it. I don't understand how you can see video after video after video of people starving. And they go, well, you don't know, you've never been. And I'll be like, I've never been. I just got back. They go, they must have indoctrinated you while you were there. I get this. As if I go over there and they sit me down and they're like, you know, look at the watch, Jason.

The other thing I've been telling people is, look, I'm a coward. The reason I'm advocating for Palestinians is very simple. I'm a filmmaker. I work in Hollywood. And everyone knows that the Palestinians control Hollywood. And the last thing I want to do is offend them. I'm also involved in politics. And the Palestinian lobby is so strong and so wealthy, God forbid I stand up against them because I'm a coward.

That's why I stand with the Palestinians, because I want to work in Hollywood. I'm afraid of the Palestinian lobby. And the other thing is anti-air bigotry is the greatest crime in America. Who wants to be called an anti-air bigot? So I pretend to care about the Palestinians because, God forbid, I'm blacklisted in Hollywood. I can't work in politics. And I'm labeled an anti-air bigot. Obviously, I'm being facetious.

right? It takes moral courage to stand up against the pervasive anti-Arab bigotry of a group that has no power. They're not going to cancel me. The Palestinians are not going to cancel Jonathan Cahn or Joel Rosenberg. Now, there's also news. I wanted to cover this. It's in the neighborhood there of Iran. Trump and them and Steve Witkoff have been working on some kind of a deal. But now there's news that, I mean, you keep hearing this news, but

There's news that Bibi Netanyahu is going to order strikes against Iran. Do you support those strikes? I'll quote President Trump. Why do I want to see the beautiful young people of Iran die? You know, if Israel wants to strike Iran. You want to talk about a humanitarian crisis, man? The whole region is going to be lit up in fires in Gaza. Yeah, I worked in Afghanistan. I worked in Iraq. And let me tell you, Iran is not Afghanistan and Iran is not Iraq. And their proxies are everywhere. And they're very dangerous.

It's going to be very dangerous to the Christians in Iraq and other places, and it could turn into a regional war. It's very dangerous. It's foolishness. What did you think of Trump meeting the new Syrian president, by the way? Did you support that or what was going on? No, I didn't support that. I don't know what that was about. Maybe it was a wise decision. I do know that in the days since the meeting, Islamists have been burning down Christian houses, putting up –

notes on christian doors saying pay the tax uh or we'll burn down your houses and within 24 hours houses started burning down and unfortunately for president trump i don't think the media is covering this but it if the media ever does decide to start covering it which they're eventually going to have to start covering it it's quite embarrassing to president trump um and but again he said you know he basically said it's a bad guy it's a tough guy it's

And he doesn't want war. He's a realist, you know? And I think that it's like, I didn't support the invasion of Iraq, but as soon as we invaded Iraq, I opposed the withdrawal, right? Why? Because we shattered it. We broke the secular equilibrium. And I knew that if we withdrew, it would be just the end of the Christians and the Yazidis, which sadly was effectively. And it wasn't even that great while America was there. I mean, most of the Christians were ethnically cleansed right under the nose of US soldiers, right?

So again, you know, Trump is a very pragmatic man who hates war, and he just wants to stop seeing these wars. So if Jelani is going to, if his leash is in the hands of Erdogan and Erdogan's leash is in the hands of President Trump, okay, you know, maybe it'll be, maybe it'll be okay. It's quite frightening though, you know, we do a vulnerable people project. I'm inundated with messages from Syrian Christians and their families in the United States asking for help today. So, yeah.

Yeah, it's horrible. You think that whole pageantry of him meeting with Saudi Arabia and UAE and Qatar and all that, you know, that whole group, you know, anybody who criticizes Israel's foreign policy with Gaza is called on the paycheck of Qatar. But yet, and this is what I don't understand the taxonomy here. Is Qatar and Israel in some kind of relationship where they get to play dialectic together because...

Israel always got Qatar to get involved with Hamas funding. That's how they got it done. So it makes you wonder, are they playing characters here? No, I think Qatar is just in a really tough place, right? I mean, they do what they're told when the United States, which acting as a proxy for Israel, effectively, asks Qatar to do things, they do it.

And then Qatar and then Israel and the neocons are constantly trying to pit and break apart the relationship between Qatar and Saudi Arabia. It's just it's a fact. Qatar is extremely vulnerable.

And it's one of my favorite places in the world. I've never taken a penny from Qatar. People have accused me of that. And because I've been there, I think anyone who's ever been on a plane to Qatar, they're going to assume took money from Qatar. I think I could take money from Israel quite easily if I wanted to. That would have been a game. I was definitely invited by several organizations on free familiarization trips with first class accommodations to go to Israel and get the little fam tour.

Palestinians never gave me such a tour. I was just there 70 hours ago. And obviously, I had to pay my own way. The Palestinians didn't pay for my flight over. They did let me sleep for free in a Bible college. I will confess to that. I did get to sleep for free in a Bible college dorm room. So maybe that's what they're talking about. But yeah, no, it's ridiculous. I mean, I pity Cutter. They are in a real pickle.

But why are they that? So tell me again, why are they again, the designated scapegoat of any criticism of Israel funding? Why is it not somebody else like Iran? I mean, I guess it's, or Saudi Arabia. Saudi is too big and too powerful and Qatar is small and vulnerable. So they just, it's just an easy boogie there. They attack Qatar for housing Hamas. They attack Qatar for housing, um,

The Taliban. Well, they did it because we asked them to. Like the godfather asked the grocery store owner in Queens in 1967 to do something. You know what I mean? Like, hey, the godfather wants you to, you know, what do I do? Okay. So yeah, we asked them to do things and they do them. For example, they were the country that took in all the Afghans that served for us.

All the SIVs, the special immigrant visa holders, went to humanitarian city. They were in Qatar. Did Qatar have a choice? Come on. Of course they didn't. Did Qatar have a choice with Hamas or with the Taliban? No, the United States asked them to. So it's a real horrible game that they play. And Qatar is in a very vulnerable position. So where do you think this is all going to end here, realistically? It's up to MAGA.

You know, it's it's I think MAGA is breaking up into two teams, Team Laura Loomer and Team Theo Vaughn. Yeah. And so you've got Team Humanity and Team Vile Ideologue. I've had Laura Loomer on my show. Maybe I can get you two together. Yeah, man. I loved her in Saw 1, 2 and 3. She was really good. Saw 1 maybe.

But yeah, no, she's a vile creature. I'd like to have her. I'd love to talk to her. She's just the worst. You know, when I told people I was writing this article on Team Theo Vaughn and Team Laura Loomer, they were like, you could pick a better person than Laura Loomer to represent the other side. I'm like, of course I could. I picked her because she's the worst example. You know, she's the things that she tweets are. I mean, I could pick Rabbi Shmuley, but Team Shmuley doesn't sound very good.

I mean, that guy was a vile creature, right? He's just absolutely disgusting. But yeah, no, Laura Loomer, you have Laura Loomer who denies the children are starving or she'll nitpick the number. I mean, it's insane. Then you have Theo Vaughn, who's this warm guy, kind guy. And then he's just, they're trying to destroy him right now.

It ain't working. These people are crazy if they think they're going to cancel Theo Vaughn. Because you're not going to be fighting Theo Vaughn. You're going to be fighting Mo, Theo Vaughn, Dave Chappelle, Joe Rogan. You're going to be Tim Dillon. Like, you're taking on, huh? Like this faction of money that's like old Hollywood adjacent or something that is allowed to criticize Israel. Like there was, you know what I mean? Like there's,

It's weird how there's some people who are allowed to criticize Israel and they don't get much flack for it. And then some people criticize Israel and their scorched earth policy. It's weird. I don't understand that formula. I'm still trying to figure it out. Like, I remember a lot of those Hollywood actors and actresses still say stuff. Not a lot of them, like not, not as much as it used to be, but you know, there's a lot of like, like Ben Affleck that he used to criticize Israel and all that, you know? Yeah. You know, but I will say like, I don't want it to undercut anyone. Um,

But the effectiveness of a Dave Smith, the effectiveness of a Theo Vaughn, it's existential to them. Very dangerous. They must destroy Theo Vaughn. Now, if they were smart, they would just let the trucks in. I think Smutrich was, I saw a video of Smutrich this week saying we need to let the trucks in to let the steam out of the kettle. You know, fine.

invite the OVON there, give them a lawn chair and a slurpee and have them sit at the border and watch as hundreds of trucks roll into Gaza. Do that. Anything short of that, there's no going back. These kids under 30, all you got are boomers. But guess what every boomer has? A kid and grandkids.

that never stopped talking about this issue. I'll tell you, as a conservative with many prominent conservative friends who's very vocal on the issue, I get a lot of prominent conservatives saying, why do my grandchildren and children sound like you? I said, because unlike you, they're well-formed and they're well-informed. And all of these friends over time have flipped.

Some of them were amongst the largest philanthropists to Christian Zionist organizations. So the idea that you can cage this in the Gen Zers, no, no, no, no, no. And what's the game plan there? What's the realistic thing? What are they trying to game for? They got to have some kind of game plan they're rolling out, right? It can't just be emotions. Completely ethnically cleansed.

Gaza. So just do such a number you can't undo it, right? You can't undo it. That's the plan. And we're going to put all the Gazans right in Pope Leo's old neighborhood probably, right? Yeah. Well, by the way, there are a lot of them. I wrote an article called Help! I'm an Anti-Palestinian Bigot, and I'm from the Pope's old neighborhood. And there are a lot of Palestinians, by the way, in the Pope's old neighborhood. A lot.

And they didn't know that. I just thought they might want to do that to be. Oh, they've already done it. And I'll tell you, as a young teenage boy, we would go fight the Palestinian kids. It was like always like, and I wrote about it. Yeah. We were always getting in fights. You know, me and my friends were pretty brutal kids and these were newcomers that were different and we were scared of them. And,

And, you know, they would it would just you would it was, you know, that's what it was. It was what it would come out with nunchucks or something. What would you just come out like it's a side story. You were doing West Side Story where you snap the article, man. I talk about it. We jumped in the car with bats. You know, we heard these Palestinian kids got in a fight with one of our friends. We jumped in the car with bats and yada yada. So that's the Pope's neighborhood. And, you know, that's the story of America and migration. But it's you want to send to Libya. These people are insane.

We don't want to ethnically cleanse them. I said they should send them to Epstein Island, you know? That was a great post. I wish I could share it because it is Israel's to give away, by the way. So no, no, no. Send them to Libya? These people, they're like, well, we don't want to ethnically cleanse Gaza. We just want to remove all of them and send them to Libya. Oh, I mean, that is the definition of ethnic cleansing. Are you insane? Are you people insane? Like who would say that?

And what they're saying is we just want to do one of the greatest human rights catastrophes in the history of the planet Earth. Yay, because Jesus. It's like with active slave markets in Libya. Can you believe it? Yeah, that's the best place that's in the Palestinians. By the way, I want to bring them all here. Bring them here. I mean, now people are losing their mind. Don't bring them here. I think, you know, no, we leave them there. We leave them there. But it's, you know, look, Netanyahu. They want to bring them to America so that they can.

you know, have more terrorist attacks down the road that they can perpetually keep us in that violent cycle of hating whoever else is left to hate or fear. They don't want that. You want to know why? Because America is not Europe and people assimilate quite well. And Trump won because of Gaza, because of two states, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Michigan and Pennsylvania are going to block the warmongers. I'm going to tell you now.

It's going to be so interesting to watch how people try to nuance their positions on Gaza in the next election cycle when they campaign in Michigan and in Pennsylvania. So Marco Rubio, all of you who are ambitious but lack humanity like Rubio, you know, you should become more nuanced. You know what I mean? You should you should think about Pennsylvania and Michigan because you're not going to win.

You will never be president. Bernie Sanders is already signaling, hey, you know, let him in. It's a catastrophe. You know, he's always a dollar too late. I don't want to let him in, though, because they're going to lose the electorate, brother. I'm telling you now. No, I mean, I mean, Bernie's always saying, let the food in. I mean, the trucks in the Gaza. So he's trying to be less nuanced, even though he's always, you know, he's always a kept boy when it comes down to it. Yeah, well, let the trucks in seems just to be like the only human thing. Yeah. Like starve them. Yeah.

And then stop targeting civilians. I mean, if you look, Russia's civilians to combatants ratio is 10 combatants to every civilian. The Sudanese army, the SAF, in their brutal war in Sudan is one to one, one combatant to every civilian. Israel, best numbers, is 10 civilians to every combatant. How's that? Yeah.

So what's the total death count now up to in Gaza? Do we know? Well, I mean, they say like 18,000 children, 54,000 people. But the reality is the numbers are much higher because –

Those are corpses that they have, but they're dropping these bombs that vaporize entire blocks and turn people into pink dust. And again, this is the other reason why Netanyahu cannot let the war end, because they're going to go in there and find the mass graves like they found the mass, you know, the mass graves where they killed the ambulance drivers and they threw them in mass graves and shot them and they lied about it. And the video came up just like they lied about raping Palestinians. And then video came out of IDF soldiers raping Palestinians there.

Of course, that doesn't make the news. You know, we're going to hear a lot about the tragedy of these two, this beautiful young couple that was brutally murdered. But we didn't hear about the Palestinian boy that was murdered in Chicago by his Jewish landlord, right? So they do what's called agenda setting, which I learned as an undergraduate in a journalism class. And we were told,

We would laugh at how journalists used to do agenda setting, and we'll never do that because we're so immoral, and it's worse than ever. It's as if now they don't even teach that, I've been told now, in journalism school because they are now, journalists all see themselves as instruments of power. Well, Jason, what do you think is the most effective strategy to stop this war in both Iran and the Gaza thing? What do you think is the key, the best Achilles heel to the war machine?

or whatever it is, machine. Yeah, I think we have to divide MAGA. We have to stand up. We have to give Trump a great reputation to live up to. And we have to really encourage Trump to stick with his natural instinct, which is a revulsion to war. And he needs to understand that his legacy will be completely destroyed

is a man who, in a very noble way, I don't think this is a critique of Trump. I think he doesn't care too much about what you think about him or what I think about him or what the New York Times thinks about him or what Fox News thinks about him or what Bannon's The Room thinks about him. I think what Donald Trump really cares about is what history thinks about him. In other words, he wants to do the right thing. And the right thing viewed from a distance when emotions and self-interest and fear aren't in the ingredients. Yeah.

So we need, he's under immense pressure. So number one is we need to educate MAGA. There's a brilliant article today up at American Conservative by George O'Neill. And he wrote another article recently, you know, read things like American Conservative, follow groups like antiwar.com, support organizations like the Vulnerable People Project. One of our missions at VPP is we run influence campaigns, right? But we also do a lot of relief efforts, but even our relief efforts are designed to humanize the people involved.

You know, the fact that they're worthy of our hard work and our discipline, they're worthy of our efforts to get food. And I just was away from my family for a month, pounding the pavement, meeting with everyone, trying to get my trucks into the churches in Gaza. And so we have to be intentional and serious. And then we have to analyze ourselves. I mean, all of us.

I mean, most of this audience, like me, I don't know like you, but like me, most of this audience is probably so addled and anti-Arab prejudice that if you were to list a bunch of stereotypes about Arabs, they would say, well, that's not prejudice. That's how those people are. Right. And that's so silly. But it's just the reality. And then for those of us who are Christians, like I don't count it. I don't expect anyone, anything from someone who's not a Christian, because to stand with the people of Gaza is to kiss a leper.

The stand with the people of Gaza is to kneel down next to a woman caught in the act of adultery. What do I mean by that? There will be consequence. You're going to be hit in the head with rocks. I think you should make a documentary like Michael Moore style where you go and show up at John Hagee's office and Joel Osteen's office and do punk rock style. I think you need to do that.

Take it straight to them. That's what you need to do. I really want to. Actually, it's on our whiteboard right here. It's called Betrayed with a Kiss. How the Evangelical Church fomented the ethnic cleansing of the oldest Christian community in the world. But we've just been too busy running trucks into Gaza and starting a jobs program in the West Bank and

You know, we can only do so much, brother. And it's that balance, you know. It's a balance between the supply and demand, the supply of violence and the demand for, you know, relief. But you got to go after the supply of violence, too, a little bit. And that's the—we got to go straight to the church. I want to see you with a—I want to see you talking to John Hagee. We're going to see if we can make that happen. I mean, I've been in the same room with that guy so many times. You know, look.

I want to see you sit down, though, and have them stutter and mumble. I want to hear that debate needs to happen in front of the public. You know the debate we want to have? We want John Hagee to sit next to a Palestinian Christian evangelical pastor and tell him that his family's home belongs to somebody from Ukraine or Russia or Yonkers. Explain that to me. Funny to me. These people are nuts. Israel is...

An ethno-nationalist, apartheid, settler state. It is something out of the 19th century. It's brutal and cruel. And it's a very sorrowful place to be. To be in the West Bank with Christians that descend from the Jews that accepted Jesus, and they have to leave me at the checkpoint because they are not allowed in Jerusalem. That's very heartbreaking to me.

that they live three miles from where their family used to live before the Nakba, the catastrophe, and they can never go. And I can go back and forth like I'm going to Walmart. That's utterly insane. It's getting even crazier. Israel now will say they are the only Middle Eastern country with a growing Christian population. Well, that's for two reasons. One is our ridiculous wars that shattered the secular equilibrium while we were funding Islamists that were eradicating these communities. But they are allowing in Ukrainians and Russians, right?

to settler who are christian to be settlers they're letting them into israel so you could be a christian from ukraine and bounce around israel like like you own the place but your family could have been in the upper room when the holy spirit descended come in fixing nets next to to peter when jesus walked by their ancestors they're not allowed come on it's insane

It's insane. And those of you who support it, you're kooks, man. And all of history will judge you harshly. You're going to be seen as just a sad, pathetic Eichmann trapped in a banal mob advocating cruel violence in the name of God. All because you bought a book. Give me one of those books with a glossy cover and an end cap. One of those Jonathan Cahn books. Oh, I hide them. I hide them behind my Playboy magazine so it's not embarrassing.

Honestly, I can't buy those books. I have to buy them to read them, but I won't buy them in a store because it's embarrassing. So I joked I was going to buy a Playboy when I go to the cash register so no one sees it and I'll hide the Jonathan Cahn book behind the Playgirl magazine so I don't embarrass myself around my Christian friends. But anyway, you know the books I'm talking about. Those glossy pumpkin spice genocide books. I haven't seen them in a long time.

I haven't seen those in a long time. Yeah, go to Barnes & Noble. They're going to be end capped right now with the shiny, glossy, like, you know, like, they have weird titles, like, paradigm.

or whatever, weird titles. And it's like glossy and purple and red and silver. And you touch it, you know, because it's for people that read it at sixth grade level. You can feel the cover. And then you read it and it's like Dungeons and Dragons. It's just like weird Gnostic nonsense. It's not the simple gospel message. The other one was the... Love widows and orphans. Serve the poor. Stand with the vulnerable. No, no, no. Red moons, blood moons, counting words, reincarnation of Amalekites, blah, blah, blah.

There was another one that was really popular back in the 2000s. I think it was called Jerusalem Countdown. Was that by Heike? I can't remember. Yeah, that was a bestseller one. That was about the War of Gog and Magog. That was the big one. If that book intrigues you, your life is quite boring. Why don't you just play Dungeons and Dragons? Play some adventure game. Roll the dice, Dungeon Master. Because the people who live in the West Bank and Gaza are human beings.

They're real. They have children that laugh and play and dance and sing. They're trying to learn their math, their calculus, right? They're doing that. I love going to Bethlehem and seeing the kids. They're doing their wheelies down the street, driving their big wheels, walking through the markets, just looking at the people. They're humans. They're not little figurines in your Dungeons and Dragons game with Hagee as your dungeon master. You can talk about blood moons.

And they move on from one little Gnostic conspiracy to the next. It's always da-da-da-da-da, you know, the Bible code, red blood moons. You know, and then they had that series called Left Behind, which was so ridiculous. And they had the Rapture Force. Oh, that was the other guy, Joel Rosenberg, I think. Wasn't his name? Oh, yeah, Joel Rosenberg. You know, I think Joel Rosenberg. He has a Christian, like CBN or TV, some one of those channels. I think he's one of the ones that does that.

You know, I'll tell you about him. I think he's a humane dude. He's a good dude. He just believes. One of the things I've learned about Zionism and Christian Zionism is good people can be drunk and brutal ideologies. Why don't you sit down with him then? I'd like, if you think he'd talk to you, that'd be great. Yeah. He talks to some good Palestinian Christian friends of mine. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Come on, come on, come on, come on. Here we go. Here we go. The dragon. Where's my glasses? Here we go. Yeah.

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given to overcome and prevail in view of what lies ahead. I mean, look, this is bizarro land. Who are the sea people? And what does the dark resurrection? You know, it says it's never been revealed. In other words, it's heresy that the apostles didn't know this or teach this. Church fathers, first, second, third, fourth, fifth century, Calvin, Zwingli, Luther,

They didn't know about this. Billy Graham didn't know about this. Billy Graham didn't know about this. C.S. Lewis didn't know about this. But for the first time ever, you're going to get to learn about the Sea Peoples and the Dark Resurrection. Uh-oh, that dragon has to do with China. Oh, I think that's what it is. Uh-oh. Is that what they're doing? No, I think it has to do with Hamas, brother. I saw a thing where it was saying they're the reincarnation of... Hamas is a dragon? I think they're the reincarnation of...

Hamas is true. In Aramaic, Hamas means zeal, strength, passion, bravery. And anyways, yeah, come on, dude. They say this is the reincarnation. Do we believe in reincarnation of peoples? Come on. How do people that grew up reading C.S. Lewis, you know, read N.T. Wright, listen to N.T. Wright. Don't read Jonathan Cahn, guys. Come on. Go on YouTube, watch N.T. Wright, the great N.T. Wright, the C.S. Lewis of our age.

See what he says on Gaza. He's not talking about the resurrection of the sea peoples. Go into the book of Leviticus and every fourth word. The sea people, that would be us. We're the ones that are great naval power.

And the Brits. Yeah, I think the Sea Peoples were us. They were the Vikings. Yeah, I mean, we were everywhere, right? So maybe we're reincarnated. I mean, now, even though we are the ones that control the high seas, you know, we took that over for the city of London, and I guess we're still running it. No, I mean, I think Hamas must have six or seven fishing vessels and barrels they can tie together. Yeah, yeah. What are they talking about? I know some of you are like, I love...

I love Jonathan Cahn. You should be embarrassed. Just admit it. It's fun to read. I'm not saying you can't get into this with your pumpkin spice latte. We're at the Christian bookstore, you know, next to the office, Max, waiting for Gladys to come by. You're reading your book and then you're going to, you know, go to Bridge Club. I don't know what you guys are doing, but you shouldn't read this nonsense. Thank you for coming on. I appreciate it. All right, brother.

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Because anybody can stand with people when there's no cost. But as a Christian, my vocation is to stand with the vulnerable when there's a cost. And to me, that is the greatest privilege in the world. People often say, Jason, when they hear where I'm going or where I work, is it dangerous? Aren't you afraid? No. Why? The safest place in the world is standing next to the vulnerable. Why? Because you're standing next to Christ himself. Vulnerablepeopleproject.com.

And you got the coolest audience in the world because I know we are all Girardians or most of us are Girardians here. Yeah. So I want people, I don't usually people to tell that this, but because I don't care about marketing like you, but like this video comment on it, help this get in the algorithm. I know we have said every heresy against Satan, you can say, and we are hit by every, I mean, we did it on COVID. We did it on this.

the C word oncology, you know, we do it on everything on my show and we are hit by seed oils. What's going on? Well, we got that lit that that's lifted temporarily right now because Bobby's there, but that the algorithm suppression on that topic, but every topic we've got, we are on the opposite side of the correct speech. And so, but I do want people to take this video and clip it and share it on your tick talk and,

your Instagram and Twitter or Facebook or myspace.com. I know that's where Jason does a lot of his browsing on my space still, but yeah,

We want everybody to get out there and like, comment, share, and do all this because this is a very... So you and I can be ratioed by warmonger bots. It's never like people are with us. Power made perfect in weakness, right? Including if you're weak with your social media game, right? God will do... I love being ratioed by the bots. I feel like Cyrano de Bergerac. I feel like Harrison Bergeron. Stand up on stage and mock the buffoons. Bring it.

All right. Take care. Godspeed. Peace out. Godspeed.

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