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From the Vatican, a wholly unexpected announcement. We have a Pope, an American Pope.

Pope Leo XIV from Chicago. From CBS News headquarters in New York, this is the CBS Evening News. Good evening, I'm John Dickerson. It is a day most American Catholics never imagined they'd see. The day a fellow American was elected pope.

But this is that day. I'm Maurice Dubois in Rome, where the College of Cardinals shows 69-year-old Cardinal Robert Prevost, a native of Chicago, to be spiritual leader of the world's 1.4 billion Catholics and the Bishop of Rome. He took the name Leo XIV. We were here above St. Peter's Square when the stunning announcement was made. It took just two days to make a momentous decision.

for the 100,000 people in St. Peter's Square, brought together by a spiritual connection, elation. I announce to you a great joy. We have a pope. That announcement in Latin was made by a French cardinal. The name, prevost, an American. Soon, the curtain parted again.

And Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost stepped forward as the 267th Pope of the Roman Catholic Church. The name he took, Leo XIV.

An American who is also a citizen of Peru and is now the Bishop of Rome spoke in Italian. God loves us. God loves you all. And evil will not prevail. Juan Londono is an American studying in Barcelona. I always knew it was going to be a historic election. Little did I think it would be in America and watching an American pope get elected to be the next pope. It's insane. I can't believe it. I'm so in shock.

USA! USA! USA! Prevost only became a cardinal in 2023. Born in Chicago, he joined the priesthood of St. Augustine at the age of 22 and spent most of his priesthood as a missionary, working for more than 20 years among the poor in Peru, where he eventually became a citizen.

Known in Rome as the Latin Yankee, Pope Leo is seen as a centrist on issues like helping migrants, equality for women and the environment. Sister Natalie is the first woman to gain the right to vote at the General Secretariat of the Synod of Bishops and was appointed by Francis. She knows Pope Leo and was with him after the announcement.

He's one of my neighbors. He's someone very simple, you know, easy to relate. I think someone quiet, you can feel a deep faith. And he speaks many languages. He has a very rich background.

The world is yet to know what direction the church will take as Pope Leo XIV begins a new journey leading the Catholic Church. We are joined now by three experts on the papacy, Monsignor Anthony Figueredo, journalist Delia Gallagher, who's covered the Vatican for 28 years, and John Allen, editor of the Catholic News website Crux. You, John, have been here for 30 years yourself. I want to start with all

All of you on this one. I don't want to throw anybody under the bus here, but no one saw this coming. Scale of 1 to 10, how surprised and shocked were you?

11. Off the charts. Yeah. Shock, but a good shock. It's turning out to be a good shock now. Everybody was predicting a pope from Italy. Wasn't meant to be. Absolutely. But we got the man I think that the church needs at this time. The world from different countries spent time in Europe, spent time in South America. Pastor of the church speaks many languages from a pastor to the head of the department that points bishops.

The first words he spoke today, he thanked Pope Francis. He talked about the poor. Are we talking about a Francis part two here or an extension of Francis? What do you think? I think partially, yes. Certainly his missionary experience in Peru speaks to that, the social justice aspect. But

Also, and importantly, the cardinals, I think, were looking for somebody to steady the ship. And what's very important about his experience in Peru is that he was also elected as the head of this international religious community, the community of St. Augustine, the Augustinians, which means he was kind of like a mini-pope. You know, he also had to deal with, on an international scale, problems of finance, problems of personnel, et cetera. And I think that stands him in good stead for the Vatican. A global perspective.

Yeah, and I think it's probably important to mention that even though, and we are quite rightly as Americans feeling pretty good about ourselves tonight, it's also important to remember that I think many cardinals saw Cardinal Prevost, now Pope Leo, not simply as an American, but really as a citizen of the world. You know, in the Italian papers, they referred to him as il meno americano trali americani, the least American of the Americans.

And I think that was part of his appeal. Well, you saw people there chanting USA, USA. First American pope. Is he going to be about America? Or as you're starting to say here, it sounds like he'll be thinking more globally. Well, interestingly, he did speak tonight in his opening address in three languages, Italian, Spanish and Latin. Not a word of English. Not a word.

He'll certainly be an important American voice in the American conversation. I think he'll have a lot of weight probably in the United States, but I think he will try to maintain a certain distance as Pope from all the American issues. You know, he has to think about the universal church. No doubt. With 53 million American Catholics, do you imagine him growing the flock, keeping it the same, losing it? How do you how do you see that playing out?

Well, I mean, the truth of it is trends in religious affiliation are based on highly personal decisions that aren't directly dependent on who's sitting on the throne of Peter. But I would say, just echoing Delia's point, that he immediately has the attention.

of those American Catholics. And what he chooses to do with the megaphone he's been handed is going to have a great deal to say about the direction that the Catholic Church takes, not just in America, but everywhere. Because let's remember, even though he is an American pope, he's not the pope of America. He's the pope of the entire universal church. That is the truth. Fifteen seconds here. What do you imagine to be his top priority? What's he got to do right out of the gate? He said it right at the beginning. I want to proclaim God's love. The church has to be missionary.

I think he's got to get a lot of good people in to help him at the Vatican because that's a key point of the Pope, creating unity amongst all Catholics. So he's got to get some good help in there. Final word?

Dialogue. He said he wants to be a man of dialogue. So he's not just going to be talking. He's going to be listening. He's a great listener. And what he hears will inform what he does. OK, thank you all for the insight and expertise. Been a long day. We really appreciate it. All right. So let's go back to John in the States. We're just getting started here tonight, John. That's right. You and I will have a dialogue later. Thank you, Maurice.

The election of an American pope has been the talk of the country all day, especially in his hometown of Chicago, where there are two million Catholics. As a child, the pope served as an altar boy at St. Mary of the Assumption Parish on the far south side. Usher Qureshi is in Chicago. As Pope Leo XIV greeted the faithful in St. Peter's Square.

Cheers and church bells rang out in Chicago, where he was born and raised. His father was a school superintendent, his mother a librarian. He earned a degree in mathematics at Villanova University. Prevost was a priest of the St. Augustine Order, dedicated to the poor and service. Pope Francis elevated Prevost to Cardinal in 2023.

The new pope's older brother, John, still lives in the Chicago suburbs and spoke to our Chicago station, WBBM. Shock, disbelief, a whole lot of pride, a whole lot of, is this for real? Now what are we going to do?

That kind of stuff, because this is an awesome responsibility that we have to live up to, that he has to live up to. Like Pope Francis, many within the church see him carrying on his life's work advocating for migrants and the poor. He holds dual citizenship in the U.S. and Peru. He's a person who's very sensitive and is concerned to allow everyone to have a voice.

Father Mark Francis studied with the new Pope. The two were seminary classmates at the Catholic Theological Union in Chicago. They also both worked in Rome in the early 2000s. He's not a showboat.

He is very calm, but extremely intelligent and extremely compassionate. Two years ago, Pope Francis brought Praebus to Rome and named him the powerful head of the office that oversees the appointments of new bishops around the world, one of the most important posts in the Church. I think his, the kind of style he would bring to the papacy would be calm, steady, very direct kind of guidance.

Usher, you've been there in front of the church. What have you heard from people coming by now that they've heard this news? Well, John, a lot of the common reaction that we've been hearing throughout the day, surprise, shock, but also joy and hope. One parishioner I spoke to who heard the news a few hours after the announcement came here to Holy Name Cathedral to say a prayer for the new pope and light a candle.

Also, we've seen just in the last few hours the black bunting that was put up here outside the cathedral when Pope Francis died has been replaced by white and gold bunting that represents the sign that there is a new pope. And also the last mass happened here at about noon. And during that mass, that's when news broke that the pope had been named. And one priest here said as soon as he heard the news that the pope was from Chicago, he looked out into the city and saw that the sun had come out.

And he went on to say that coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous. Seeing signs everywhere. Usher Kreshian, Chicago. Thank you.

Now, more of the top stories from around the world in the evening news roundup. President Trump revealed the outlines of his first trade agreement since imposing those sweeping tariffs. The deal with the UK lowers tariffs on some British-made cars to 10% and potentially eliminates them on steel and aluminum. Britain agrees to give American farmers more access to its markets.

Just weeks before hurricane season, the acting head of FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, was replaced. Cameron Hamilton had told Congress yesterday that FEMA is vital. President Trump has talked about eliminating the agency.

Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy is calling for a top-to-bottom overhaul of the air traffic control system in the wake of deadly crashes and technical failures. No price tag was given, but Duffy wants it completed in three years. Russia's Vladimir Putin welcomed China's Xi Jinping to Moscow, calling him a "dear friend." Xi said the two nations stand together against bullying, apparently a reference to the Trump tariffs.

Still ahead on the CBS Evening News, more from Maurice in Rome and Tony DeCoppo in the middle of the excitement in St. Peter's Square. A hundred thousand people were in the crowd today here in St. Peter's Square when the announcement of an American pope came. Among them, Tony DeCoppo, co-host of CBS Mornings.

A burst of joy from the faithful in St. Peter's Square. Phones held high to record the moment. And some, like Blake and Nicole from Toronto, Canada, held each other. A gift is how Nicole later described it.

And it was a gift everyone wanted to share. - Calls his mother, calling his wife, calling his sister. - As word spread, you're in the kitchen. - Yeah, I was in the kitchen then. - And you're watching TV. - You're watching TV. - White smoke. - Yeah, white smoke. - And so you ran out the door? - Yeah, absolutely. - There were some nerves to be sure. The Catholic world waited to learn the name of their new leader. But as he emerged on the balcony,

The primary feeling was gratitude. It's historic to be here with all of these people. It's just, it's overwhelming. Though, of course, among the global crowd gathered here... -You're from Senegal, right? -Yeah, yeah, yeah. -From Chicago. Born in Chicago. -Oh, yeah. There was also a sense of surprise. Were you rooting for an Italian pope?

Well, yeah, Zuppi. Oh, Zuppi, that was your guy, okay. It's okay, it's a pope. And for some Americans, maybe a little hubris. For Lucas Simas, a Chicago-born Catholic himself, hearing the name of a Chicago-born pope

was particularly sweet. They said it out loud here and I thought, no, this just has to be, they just have to be naming some cardinal or something, but it was really him. But it was a non-Catholic of all people who reminded us that what matters most in a pope is not what it says on his passport.

I live as a Catholic, although I'm making a huge admission here, I have never actually officially converted. I contemplated it over the last year and I'm contemplating it much more now. Interesting. Especially after receiving that blessing. This blessing? This blessing. Wow.

And now, of course, the real work begins for this new pope. The square behind me has cleared out, but all those people and more are still going to be turning to this building behind me for guidance. Of what kind is the question? One American told me she's looking for love, of course, but, Maurice, a particular kind of love. She wants a love from this pope that can change our world. You bet. Tony, thanks so much. Great line there. It's not about the passport. That's the truth.

Nora O'Donnell has covered two conclaves. She was right here when Pope Francis was elected in 2013, and she was right alongside me this evening when we learned the new pope, Leo XIV, is an American. Nora, I've covered three of these now, and safe to say, as I felt my jaw dropping today and looked and saw yours dropping and everybody else who was out here, we were just shocked.

I know. Stunned. An extraordinary moment to witness in history, to see this American pope elected. And, you know, just to take us back to that, it was at 6:07 p.m. local time when that white smoke came out. But just minutes before, we were all transfixed on that chimney. Why? Not because of some smoke coming, but because of these seagulls. There were those, remember,

that we were a little punchy at that point that's right and we were grasping at anything we could yes and look at this and look at this there were these two seagulls and a baby gull and we said we started to say is this a sign and because we heard the crowd making a commotion and then that white smoke and i think that just added to in some ways what people will say the spirituality to of this moment there will be plenty of discussion about the substance

of this papacy and this man who is a polyglot, who speaks more than five languages, of course, a math major from Villanova, you know, a missionary, a parish priest, a teacher, all of that so incredibly important. But the spiritual element, I think, is really interesting. And then just the idea of were people hoping for an American? Yes, because just yesterday when I was in St. Peter's Square, I met Sister Rose Piccata,

from San Diego. And she had said to me she was hoping for Cardinal Prevost. And sure enough, here he was. I need to meet this sister that you know. She sounds like she's got her finger on the pulse. That's right. All right, Nora, thanks for the observations. Fantastic. Thank you. Coming up here next tonight, she traveled nearly 6,000 miles from Houston to see a pope from Chicago.

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For many Catholics, seeing a pope is the nearest thing to seeing God they will ever experience on Earth, an opportunity not to be missed. They traveled around the world.

just to bear witness. One of those people, Liv Harrison. We followed her 5,700 mile journey from Houston that started earlier this week. - I'm so excited. - One that tested her resolve and grace. - We were supposed to leave at 5:15, two hours.

Could be worse one canceled flight and lost day of travel later. She made it We met her in st. Peter's Square before the announcements. So you just got off the plane. I just got off the plane What a journey we always say like, you know, it's not about the destination. It's about the journey No

I just went on a journey. It is about the destination. After that kind of journey, the smoke starts coming out. Okay. What are you thinking? I am so excited. Listen, I was supposed to be here yesterday and I was so selfish and was praying that they did not elect a pope for me so I could be here to see the smoke. And when that moment came... We have it! We have it! It's shaking! It's shaking!

Why were you shaking? I don't know. I didn't prepare for my whole body. It just started, like, vibrating. American hope. Just let that sink in. We can't. It is like none of us saw this coming. None of us saw this coming, you know, and I'm sure he's a lovely man. We all need to get to know him. He was not one that I heard people talking about.

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