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Cancelling cancel culture with Loretta Ross

2025/2/4
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Adam Grant: 憎恨他人耗费精力。即使是持有最糟糕的人性观念,甚至是对人类做过最糟糕事情的人,也有能力翻篇。 Loretta Ross: 我脾气暴躁,但我正在努力控制它,并学习用第二想法来定义自己。当我的错误反噬到我身上时,我意识到我用错了方式。我也需要调和自己的羞耻感,公开我一直试图隐藏的秘密让我感到解放。“呼唤”不是为了改变他人,而是为了改变你对他人的行为。我们擅长教人们激进的政治,但我们没有教他们用激进的爱来负责任地处理这些政治。语言惯例变化迅速,没有人能跟上,所以我们必须彼此宽容,同时也要做得更好。在“呼唤”他人之前,你需要先暂停并深呼吸,先“呼唤”自己。如果你为希望、快乐和人权而战时没有乐趣,那么你可能做错了。

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Loretta Ross, a renowned activist and professor, shares her perspective on cancel culture, arguing that shaming rarely changes behavior and often harms the most vulnerable. She contrasts this with her approach of "calling in," which prioritizes understanding and empathy.
  • Shaming is ineffective at changing behavior and often drives people away.
  • Calling in focuses on understanding and empathy, not public shaming.
  • "Calling in" prioritizes personal growth and accountability over public punishment.

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As a public intellectual, activist and professor at Smith College, Loretta Ross is no stranger to confrontation and debate. But years of working to change the minds of others have led her to rethink her own ideas about approaching difficult conversations. Loretta and Adam discuss why shaming rarely changes behavior and her powerful alternative to cancel culture. They also reflect on personal moments of confrontation and explore strategies for talking others out of hate.

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