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Rebel With a Cause: With Guests Francis Kelly & Christopher Bryan

2024/10/7
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Fran Kelly: 我领导了著名的反吸烟运动“真相”运动。我们意识到,以往的反吸烟宣传过于理性,未能有效触及那些容易受影响的青少年。这些青少年往往具有反叛心理,容易对权威产生抵触情绪。因此,我们决定利用他们的反叛心理,将他们的反叛情绪引导到对抗大型烟草公司上来。我们制作了一系列广告,揭露烟草公司的操纵行为,并鼓励青少年通过拒绝吸烟来对抗这种操纵。事实证明,这种策略非常有效,显著降低了青少年吸烟率。“真相”运动被认为是广告史上最有效的运动之一,它不仅获得了业界最高奖项,也对公共健康产生了积极的影响。 我们的广告活动多方面展开,包括与青年大使合作,在全国范围内投放平面广告、广播广告和电视广告。其中最著名的电视广告是“裹尸袋”广告,它以震撼人心的方式展现了吸烟造成的巨大危害,成功地引起了公众的关注。 我们还采取了具有冲击性的宣传方式,例如在烟草公司总部前放置1200个裹尸袋,以此来警示人们吸烟的危害。这些具有冲击性的广告,虽然引发了一些争议,但它们都建立在事实的基础上,并成功地引起了人们对吸烟危害的重视。 总而言之,我们成功地利用了青少年的反叛心理,将他们的反叛情绪转化为积极的行为,从而有效地降低了青少年吸烟率。 Christopher Bryan: 我的研究关注的是逆反心理,即人们在感到自身选择受到外部控制时,会本能地试图重新确立自身自主性的心理反应。这种心理反应在青少年时期尤为明显,因为青少年正处于探索独立自主的阶段。 我们发现,通过揭示食品营销公司如何操纵人们的饮食习惯,可以激发青少年的逆反心理,促使他们做出更健康的选择。在一个实验中,我们向中学生展示了食品营销公司的操纵手段,然后让他们选择零食和饮料。结果显示,那些了解了食品营销公司操纵手段的学生,比那些只接受了传统健康教育的学生,做出了更健康的选择。 这一研究结果表明,利用逆反心理可以有效地引导人们做出更健康的选择。在日常生活中,我们应该避免过度控制他人,尊重他人的自主性,才能更好地与他人相处,并引导他们做出积极的行为。 我的研究也扩展到其他领域,例如政治领域。人们对政府的抵制,很多时候也是源于逆反心理。理解逆反心理,有助于我们更好地理解人们的行为,并找到更有效的沟通方式。 Katie Milkman: 本期节目探讨了逆反心理这一普遍存在的心理现象,并以两个案例为例,说明如何利用逆反心理来促进积极的行为改变。Fran Kelly分享了他在“真相”反吸烟运动中的经验,该运动巧妙地利用了青少年的反叛心理,成功地降低了青少年吸烟率。Christopher Bryan则介绍了他关于利用逆反心理促进健康饮食的研究,该研究表明,通过揭示食品营销公司的操纵行为,可以激发青少年的逆反心理,从而促使他们做出更健康的选择。 这两个案例都表明,逆反心理并非总是消极的,它也可以被用来促进积极的行为改变。关键在于如何巧妙地引导这种心理,将其转化为积极的力量。在日常生活中,我们应该学会识别和理解逆反心理,并根据具体情况采取相应的策略,才能更好地与他人沟通,并引导他们做出更积极的选择。

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The Chelsea Flower Show's century-long ban on garden gnomes is discussed, highlighting the gnome rebellion of 2011 and the diverse reactions to the ban's eventual lifting. The ban, initially intended to maintain aesthetic consistency, was viewed by some as elitist, prompting a rebellion among gardeners.
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  • 2011 gnome rebellion
  • Reactions to the ban's lifting

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Most parents encounter resistance from their children. Perhaps when the kids are young and turning their noses up at vegetables, or when they're teenagers and balking at curfews or dress codes.

So what's the best way to encourage good choices in the face of a rebellious kid? Or a rebellious adult, for that matter?

In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman), we look at the surprising ways that resistance to authority can be leveraged for positive change. 

During the mid 1990s, the "Truth" anti-youth smoking campaign) was everywhere. Many TV ads cleverly harnessed the teenage penchant for rebellion, using guerilla filming techniques and revealing hidden truths about smoking known to the tobacco industry for years. The campaign drastically lowered youth smoking rates and remains one of the most effective campaigns in history. Fran Kelly was on the frontlines, leading the advertising campaign at Arnold Worldwide. 

Francis "Fran" Kelly) is the president and CEO of branding consulting firm CEOVIEW Branding.) He was previously the president and CEO of global advertising agency Arnold Worldwide.

Next, Katy speaks with Christopher Bryan about his research on leveraging rebellion as a way to encourage healthy eating among adolescents. You can learn more in his paper titled "Harnessing Adolescent Values to Motivate Healthier Eating.)" 

Christopher Bryan) is an associate professor of business, government, and society at the University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business.) He is also co-founder and co-director of the Texas Behavioral Science and Policy Institute.)

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