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BBC Radio 1 Radio 1's All Day Breakfast with Greg James. Hello and welcome to Monday's Radio 1 All Day Breakfast podcast. And here we go with another week of good stuff. Loads of things to get through today. Brits, Oscars, animal news, plus jam sandwiches all over the place. In fact, let's start where we ended with James.

with jam sandwiches. We'll start sporty, actually, with Cole Palmer. Did you see the golden moment this weekend? In amongst all the stuff, in amongst all the Brits, all the news, all the Oscars, this was my favourite thing from the weekend. What's your go-to meal deal? I don't think I've ever had a meal deal. What sandwich would you get? Like chicken, bacon? Jam. That was iconic Chelsea player Cole Palmer talking to Metro Sport. Jam? That's one of the best answers ever. LAUGHTER

I mean, honestly, there was... People always laugh at Cole Palmer, but... What's your go-to meal deal? I don't think I've ever had a meal deal. What sandwich would you get? Like chicken, bacon... Jam. Do you know what? It's the truth. Yeah, it is the truth, and I don't think we talk about it enough. We should normalise it for adults, jam sandwiches. They are great. They got me through primary school. Yeah, fair enough. When you get to secondary school, you go...

oh, am I a bit big for jam sandwiches now? She's like, yeah, you probably are. I love it. He's a striker for Chelsea. He's not too big for them. He can have them when he wants. It's working for him. Exactly. He's unbelievable. Yeah, quite right. So today, this morning even, if you're in the kitchen, you're thinking, what should I have for breakfast? Go make yourself a jam sandwich. Be right back with that. And now let's do a little Brits recap. Really good Brits, wasn't it? Really good.

Some great winners, like all the good people, the really good people that we play all the time, that we support on Radio 1, all the good people. Like all the slightly odd pop stars won, which I really liked. The slightly unobvious ones won, which was good. Sabrina Carpenter kicking off the show with this, the play's going nuts. Hey Brits, is the back door open still? Because I'm a singer!

I'm so pleased for Jade to win best very, very well deserved and backed up with an incredible performance. Now, obviously, what you don't hear there is that when Jade fell through the fake stage, she landed in a bunch of foam and then had a costume change all in under 20 seconds.

Charlie XCX was a big winner, the big winner of the evening. Album of the Year, Artist of the Year and Song of the Year winner, Charlie XCX. Thank you to all the artists out there who feel like they don't fit in but are brave enough to try and be rejected a million times. Yeah, good message. Do some fun stuff. Do some weird stuff. Be fun. Just do an album called Brat and make it green. Just see what happens.

Ezra Collective won Group of the Year. I was... I hoped they'd win, because I really do think they deserved it, but you never know. You never know, do you, with these sorts of things. And also with some very famous bands in that category. You're like, oh, it'd be nice if they won. And very well deserved. Really great speech from Femi. This moment right here is because of the great youth clubs and the great teachers...

and the great schools that support young people playing music. I love myself some Ezra Collective. I had an Ezra Collective Sunday yesterday in honour. And another one that we love, Miles Smith. I was a kid raised by a single mum on free school mills in a state school that only had instruments because of government-backed schemes.

I grew up in a town that according to loads of clickbait articles is the worst town in Luton, but yet I'm somehow here, a four-time Brit nominee, a graduate from a Russell Group university and having the biggest selling single of 2024. He's a lovely man, he's Miles Smith, thoroughly well-deserved.

And finally, big shout out to Jack Whitehall. Some amazing jokes. I loved the, there's lots of them we can't play on the radio. Uh, love the Stormzy stuff. Loved the, quite, quite a lot of KSI stuff. I really enjoyed that. Um, we can play this KSI one. It's inspirational stuff. It really is. Cause you listen to Kendrick Lamar and you're like, I couldn't do that in a million years. And I listened to your song and I'm like, I could do this. Oh, wow. Uh,

And he wrote in Big John for, he got Big John to deliver some Chinese takeaway to him and did a... An O2-sized bosh. And with that, you're up to date with all the Brits things. With Greg James. And then after that, let's get you up to date with all the latest things. There's a brand new series of Doctor Who on the way. Shuti Gatwa is back as the Doctor. Loads of great stuff in store. The trailer was released last week and people were very excited about it.

For one main reason, actually. There's a surprise guest. Rylan! Welcome to the Interstellar Song Contest. Oh, we're so staying. We're staying. I love a good show. So Rylan is hosting the Interstellar Song Contest in the new series in one of the episodes of Doctor Who.

He shared a clip of it and said it's a dream come true to join the Hooniverse. That is coming in April. Next up, some new music that you might have missed over the weekend. A brand new dance banger from our friends at CBeebies, including Hack of the Dog.

And it's called Toast. Let's eat some breakfast, maybe some toast. Let's eat some breakfast, maybe some toast. Now, that's probably speaking to you on quite a deep level this morning, if you are eating toast currently, which I'm sure millions of you are. I did mention earlier that our jam sandwich chat was quite CBeebies, and this proves my point. I want toast.

I love toast. Toast. It is quite dirty, isn't it? It is quite dirty. It's quite, as producer Sophie would say... Get your teeth round it. Beef. Quite beefy. It is quite beefy. Someone commented underneath saying, I would go feral if this came on in the club.

I want toast. CBeebies, are we allowed to join in if we're having jam sandwiches at 8 o'clock? Does that count? And from that to the Oscars. From the sublime to the ridiculous. Sublime toast song to the ridiculous Oscars. Let's talk about some of the musical performances. The Ariana Grande-Cynthia Erivo performance was heavily rumoured. Then both of them said, nah, it's not going to happen. It might happen. Of course it happens. Just

So that was the start of the show. And then there was a, for no particular reason, maybe there doesn't need a reason, there was a sort of James Bond tribute, which was good because it meant that Ray performed Skyfall. And swept away, I'm stolen from Skyfall.

Then Doja Cat did a rendition of Diamonds Are Forever by Shirley Bassey. Diamonds are forever, hold one up and then crescent. Diamonds are forever, very good. She's got the range.

And then Lisa performed Live and Let Die, which was the theme song from Live and Let Die. Lisa, take it away. So much Bond. Not sure why. Don't need to overthink it. It was nice. And with that, you're up to date with all the latest things. So many things. So many things.

And now, Jam Slam. Mike in Suffolk is ready. He's standing by. Jordan Hart, landscaper, is there. We've got Polly and Milton Keynes.

who says I've got my jam sandwich standing by Laura in Craigavon we've also got Selena and in the studio we have platters of jam sandwiches producer Amy has gone down to the canteen and dolloped so much jam it's an unbelievably generous helping Amy that's quick work thank you amazing work

So, have we all got ours? By the way, if you just switched on, we have gone mad. Anyway, that happened a long time ago. But Cole Palmer, Chelsea player, has had a moment in front of the press this weekend. He was talking to Metro Sport about this. What's your go-to meal deal? I don't think I've ever had a meal deal. What sandwich would you get? I don't know.

Jam? So he's gone for a jam sandwich and a meal deal. Very difficult to locate. But they shouldn't be. This is my point. No, there wasn't one downstairs. I had to make one. Normalised jam sandwiches as you're an adult. They were very normal at primary school.

Let's normalise it today, this morning. I am salivating. I'm just going to get on with it. Are we ready for 8 o'clock jam slam? It is happening now. Callum? OK, yeah, going for it. Going for it. All right. Everyone in the studio? Mm-hm. Happy? Yeah. Tom? Yeah. Susanna? Billy? Amy? Henry? Grab a triangle. I've triangled mine. Mm-hm. And in. Yeah. Mm-hm. Mm. Quite sweet, innit? Really? Yeah.

White bread. White bread, butter. Oh my God. That is the best. There's nothing better than that. Honestly. I know it's the sound of seven people eating. It's breakfast time. Take a moment. Lovely. Lovely. Round of applause for Jam. Round of applause. Yeah, I did enjoy that. It's important to celebrate these moments as an adult.

I think so. This is a communal thing. The whole country eating jam sandwiches here. How many people do you think are eating a jam sandwich right now? Millions. You don't get this with Spotify, do you? No, you do not. You don't get this with the community listening. Everyone just sitting around eating a jam sandwich, just kicking back, just chatting. Why not? It's great. You see what the radio station is now? Mmm. Mmm.

How was your weekend then? Good? It was good, yeah. I enjoyed it. It was pretty good. Watched your footy? Watched my footy, yeah. Had an outside pint. Oh, outside pint. Yeah. Outside pint of jam sandwich. That is living. That is living. Next half hour, by the way, we're going to do Fontaine's DC. We're going to talk about bowling.

You up for that? Sure. I mean, we're doing jam sandwich eating, so it seems bowling's kind of fair enough, you know? I love that you just said sandwich as well, because you're Scottish. Oh, yeah. I love a sandwich. Also today, Roshan Hastie was back on and we did Animal News. Morning, Graham. Animal News. Some Animal News. Lots of Animal News for you. It's got a...

It's a little early to be going that high. It is Monday, yeah, yeah. Go easy on yourself. So Animal News round up with Roisin Hasty. The thing I'd say you're most well known for. I'll take that. That's a great claim to fame. Yes, she did the Breakfast Show News for years. Yes, she's on the World Service. But mainly it's Roisin Hasty from Animal News. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's worse things to be known for.

We start with a cat that got really into cricket. And do you mind if I start because there's a cricket cat? No, please go ahead. There's a cat that got really into the cricket last week. The one day international tri-series final between Pakistan and New Zealand in Karachi. During play, a cat was spotted wandering onto the pitch to the point even the commentators just had to say something. I've never seen this before, honestly. I've seen the odd dog run across, the odd streaker.

But the old black cat with the limp. With the limp, oh. Poor little thing. They do what they want. Yeah, they really do. They do what they want. The odd streaker. The odd streaker. So the commentators do have a theory, though, about why it's maybe limping. It does seem completely fine. The black cat's got a bit of a hobble, almost like he's been LBW at some stage. Ha ha ha!

Can we get Bollywood gums, please? LBW? Ah, see, it's a little cricket joke. A little in-joke. A little cricket joke. You little cricket people. Cricket community will find that hilarious. Okay. But to us, to us lot, that is hilarious. I don't get it.

Shall I try and explain it? Okay, so there's a method. Tell me when you're falling asleep. Okay. There's a method of getting someone out where the ball hits your pad when you're batting in front of the wickets. And if it hits the pad and you're blocking the wickets, then that is leg before wicket. Right. So it hits your leg. LBW. LBW. Okay. Okay.

Sadly, the cat couldn't stay forever as the match did need to continue. But the cat was removed safely and the cricketers decided to chase it off the pitch, basically, which is what you should do. It's going to be chased now.

LBW's not so bad, hopefully. When you've got a move, you get a move on. He doesn't want another LBW, does he? They're doing the joke again. They killed it, didn't they? OK, Roisin, what's next, please? So I've got a story about a dog with a job for you now. A dog with a job. A dog with a job. Dog with a job. We used to do a feature on The Afternoon Show called Mug on a Dog. Of course you did. Where we would have a little toy dog that moved. You know, those ones that go...

Yeah, yeah. We put a mug on its back and we throw coins into it. Sounds great. It actually had... I can find the theme tune. I've got all my... It had a theme tune. It of course had a theme tune. Everything has to have a theme tune. Is that Chris Smith singing? Mug on a dog. Mug on a dog. It's time for a game of mug on a dog.

Unfortunately for this dog, it doesn't appear to be very good at its job. It was spotted at Dulles International Airport in Washington, D.C.

Please make your way to the C25-27 gate area to retrieve your service animal. Oh, she's sounding sarky. She sounds so fed up. But she's sarky there, isn't she? Yeah, yeah. Your service animal. Is that because she suspects that this dog is not actually a service animal, but they just want to take their dog on the plane? So this dog is like a small, white, like a Pomeranian type thing. Right. Just running around the airport, and she's like, come and get your dog. Not your classic guide dog. No.

Pomeranian. I wouldn't say so. I'm not sure how helpful they'd be. No. I don't know about that. So, do we think that's someone who's just trying to get their dog on holiday? I mean, that's a very American thing, isn't it? People are like, oh, I need my emotional support crocodile on the flight. Crocodile. Yeah. They take everything on those planes. Well,

Well, obviously, it's a thing. Emotional support animals are a thing and they, I mean, Barney emotionally supports me all the time. Bailey too, they put in a right shift. But he's not, he's not a working dog. No. He hasn't done a day's work in his life, lazy getter. No way. Animal news and here comes part two. And we start with, well, do you want to take us to Bruges in Belgium? Yeah, yeah, we've got to go.

We've got an unruly swan. An ungovernable swan in Belgium has been arrested for the eighth time in seven days. The five-year-old troublemaker from Bruges keeps abandoning his canal to embark on quests around the city. They're all ungovernable. Yeah, they're so aggy swans. I would not want to meet a swan not by a canal. So aggy. Aggie.

Chippy, ungovernable. No. They just start on everyone. Yeah. They are just looking. They're just angry. They're angry. It's that guy on a night out who's always looking for a fight. Yeah. He's just looking for it. I've got the difficult balance of Isla, who toddler desperately wants to feed the ducks, so we always have duck food on us, and Bailey, who thinks, why on earth are you giving these treats to the ducks? And we'll bark at them. So we're always annoying the swans. Do the swans come up and take some food?

Do they? Yeah, we got duck and swan food.

Duck and swan food? Yeah. Really? What's swan food? In a little box. What's swan food? They're like little pellets. Fish? I don't know, they're just pellets. What are swans eating? Duck and swan food. No, but what's it, what are they having little bits of? Plankton. Plankton? Did I hear it? In the ocean. Like stuff that floats in the canal. Plankton. I love the idea that there's plankton in your local little pond. Why is there plankton there?

Why is there a whale? Very exotic round by Nick. In Broxbourne. That's weird. So he's been on a crime spree. What's he been up to? Well, we actually do know his actual rap sheet. He's made his way through the city centre, spent an afternoon blocking traffic and even wandered into a museum lobby. Every time he's scooped up and brought back to the canal, he's back out on the town the next morning as if nothing happened. This one is... He does not care. Yes.

Nasty piece of work. Honestly. He's got like stag do vibes. He's just fumbling around like, I don't care. I'm causing trouble.

Bruges, quite a good stag location as well. Yeah, yeah. Maybe he's on a stag too. Maybe he is, yeah. Thankfully though, for the people in Bruges, he has actually been taken into custody now. They've had enough. After his eighth arrest, officials put the street swan on house arrest in a special swan holding area for recovering injured birds. He's in perfect health and he'll soon be relocated to a quieter swan location within the city. Don't reward him.

Don't reward the swans. Here's a countryside retreat for you. Awful. That's not what we need. No luck catching them swans then. It's just the one swan actually. It's very hot fuzz, isn't it? Very hot fuzz. All right, let's have one more then. Let's have something a bit more happy.

We go to a friendly fish in Thailand who's been busy making friends with some divers. Steve is a porcupine fish, but what makes him so special? Unlike most other animals, Steve actively seeks out divers, swimming all around and in between your legs. That's nice, isn't it? Yeah, that is nice. That's what you want when you're diving. You want a friendly fish. Why can't swans be more like that? Yeah. Most of the time, you don't find him, he finds you. He also can get very jealous. As you can see here, him chasing off another puffer fish so he can have all the attention. Ah.

See, there you go. There's that Labrador energy again. I get jealous immediately. I'm not allowed to even hug Bella. Really? Next to Barney.

It's not that he doesn't get angry, he just gets left out. So he just immediately nuzzles his head between our legs or whatever. This is your reminder, though, not to touch him. Although he is very social, he still is a porcupine fish with spikes. And if he feels threatened, he will inflate into a giant ball. Tricky, isn't it, this? Tricky in the animal kingdom, tricky. Very difficult to traverse. There's so many rules. It's like, be my friend, but then don't get too close or I'll spike you. It is almost like the animals don't want us here.

Have you ever thought about that? Conspiracy. They don't want us to be here. They don't want us to be here. No. The swans would be much happier if we weren't here. The swans are just a bit more forthright with it. They're like, go away! Yeah. I think we're reading Steve wrong.

I don't think he wants those divers around. That's what we want to believe. We want to believe. He's a friendly fish. He loves us being here. Also, that dog doesn't want to go on a plane. A little Pomeranian. You can imagine the pressure on its little organs. This animal news is basically just one big warning of like, get out of our lives. Exactly. The cat doesn't want stupid blokes playing cricket. No, it wants to wander on the cricket pitch happily. We're awful. Yeah.

Awful, awful humans. Have a great rest of your Monday, guys. Animals are great, though. That was animal news. This morning, we launched an investigation. We need to talk about bowling. There's a great Instagram from a comedian called Tom Glover. And Tom's made me think deeply about something. Why is nobody talking about the big bowling shoe conspiracy? A bowling shoe conspiracy. You know when you go bowling, 10-pin.

This is a great low-stakes conspiracy. I was out bowling the other day with a family for about the first time in a decade. Got there, there was a bit of a queue, so I said to the kids, take your shoes off, it'll speed up the process. Like, I've done this before. OK, I think you can probably tell what's coming here. We got to the front, slammed my shoes on the desk, and I went, size 12, please. They went, oh, no, you don't need to do that anymore. I went, sorry. They went, no, you can just wear your own shoes to go bowling now. Size 12 as well, someone's doing well. So...

I'm confused here because this when did this change because I didn't go bowling that long ago but I've heard I've heard rumor of this I have heard rumor I was led to believe if you wore your own shoes on the bowling alley you're not only being in danger in your own life but the lives of everyone around you even if you had to just set foot on a bowling alley your legs would immediately snap off at the ankles have the rules changed have the rules become more relaxed around this are you are you able to wear your own shoes

Because for years, we've had to be wearing those very smelly, dirty, sort of clown trainers. Is it to do with... I don't know. I don't know here. We need to... Do you know what? I'm launching an investigation. Cue the investigation music. We need a bowling nerd. We need people who run bowling alleys, who work in bowling alleys. Has it changed? Because I think...

maybe 18 months, not even, maybe a year ago I went and they still made me put the smelly shoes on and they do that thing when they take the shoes back off you in front of your face they spray it with that weird dust spray whatever it is and you're like okay thanks very much it's not just me that got smelly feet it's the 5,000 other people that have worn those shoes before me

Bowling nerds unite. It's niche, but I know that you'll be interested in this and I know there'll be people out there with answers. You'll be shouting at the radio now. I know you will be. What are we doing here? What are the rules? Have they changed? It does feel very much like a Jeremy Vine topic. Should we just close all the bowling alleys and have done with it? Big, big investigation launched this morning. It's about bowling shoes.

The comedian Tom Glover posted this over the weekend and I've been thinking about it a lot. Why is nobody talking about the big bowling shoe conspiracy? It's the big bowling shoe conspiracy. It's a low stakes conspiracy, but we enjoy it nonetheless. I was out bowling the other day with a family for about the first time in a decade. Got there, there was a bit of a queue, so I said to the kids, take your shoes off, it'll speed up the process. I've done this before. We got to the front, slammed my shoes on the desk and I went, size 12 please. They went, oh no, you don't need to do that anymore. I went, sorry. I went, sorry.

You can just wear your own shoes to go bowling now. You don't need to do that anymore. When did this change? I was led to believe if you wore your own shoes on the bowling alley, you'd not only be in danger in your own life, but the lives of everyone around you. Even if you had to just set foot on a bowling alley, your legs would immediately snap off at the ankles. So many people messaging about this today. Conflicting reports all over the place. People saying, yeah, that's been happening for years where I live. Other people saying, no, you'd be thrown out if you were wearing your own trainers. I needed a nerd.

A nerd is what I needed. A niche bowling nerd, and I think we have that person. Josh, good morning. Good morning, Greg. Are you a niche bowling nerd? I'm pretty niche, yes. I'm a bowling nerd. Give me your bowling credentials, please, Josh. As in... Where do you bowl? To what level? I probably play semi-professional, so I'm...

pretty like league bowler slash county bowler at the minute league county semi-pro that's enough for me that is absolutely what we're after so is the radio in your car yeah yeah can you turn it off as much as I do love the sound of my own voice I don't need to hear it twice

There we go. Great. So, Josh, let's talk about the rules here. Have the rules changed? If so, when did they change? And what's your take on it? The rules haven't necessarily changed. Certain places don't hold goalers or championships or county championships. So basically, they will not be too fussed about where

Yeah.

So causing wear and tear would make them to stick and possibly cause injury or to fall off and stumble. Because you want a little bit of slip, you don't you, when you're doing the bowling? You don't want too much friction, otherwise your ankles could snap. I'm going to have to fade him down there, that's making me feel ill. But I do think we've got an answer from Josh. Thank you, Josh, for your patience. The phone line was crackly a little bit, but it seems to be if your bowling alley is the place where proper bowlers go...

then you're wearing their shoes. OK? Remember that. And thank you for being part of the investigation. Josh, can you still hear me? Yeah, can you hear me? It's just that the line was a bit funny. So what we're saying is if it's a pro place, then you've got to wear the shoes that they provide. Essentially, yes. OK. But some places that don't hold league... Yeah.

And with that, he's gone. And we thank him for his service. He was one of our greatest bowlers. He was one of our greatest sportsmen. And we hold him in high regard. A tribute to the late Josh from Chipley. Also today, we were visited by Ali Plum to talk all things movies. You have done an all-nighter. I really have. You've done an all-nighter watching the television. Look, some people suffer. I'm one of them.

Well, there's a lot of that, isn't there, at the Oscars? There's a lot of, I suffer for my art. I'm humbled by this massive award, all the praise, all the money, and I look great. What about my dress? Thank you for letting me do my art. That's all they say, isn't it, actors? They go, thank you for letting me do my art. Here's to you. This is for you. I don't know what I'd do without my art and my film. However, some great winners last night. Before we get to the winners, can I just run something by you? Love that it happened, but why was there a Bond sort of tribute? I've been swept away.

I'm stuck. Ray doing Skyfall, brilliant. Skyfall. Skyfall. Doja Cat doing Shirley Bassey Diamonds Are Forever. Diamonds Are Forever.

It's a fantastic performance from Doja Cat, but she didn't get the forever. Because it's not forever, it's forever. Charlie Bassett, darling. Why was there a Bond thing? I am still not 100% sure. It's timed very interestingly because the news last week was that Amazon have bought out the rights creatively to make new Bond films. So is it saying to Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, so long, thanks for all the fun. See you guys. He's like three minutes away.

of awesomeness. Yeah. I mean, these are incredible people performing incredibly, but yeah, it was, I mean, I guess why not? It was nice. Yeah. It was nice. People are panicking about that Bond thing, aren't they? Oh yeah. But we should remind everyone that there's more bad Bond films than good. Excuse me? Well,

But yeah, come on. All right, let's do an hour-long podcast separately and we'll come back to this. No, I mean, I love Bond films. I watch all of them. I love the bad ones, but I'm saying people are panicking. There's always been a bit naff. That's the whole point. No, come on, there's some good ones. Daniel Craig only did two good Bond films. Okay. Casino Royale and Skyfall. People are texting in with all caps right now. I love Bond. I'm obsessed. I watch it whenever I'm sad. I watch them all the time. I've got them all on Blu-ray because I'm a nerd. I love them. I've never seen you this panicked. I'm not panicking.

Do I look like a man panicking? Boo. So, no Bond films up for an Oscar because there hasn't been one for about five years. Correct. And there might not be one for another five years. We'll see. So, talk us through the big winners then, Ali. Give us your take on the Oscars. The big, big winner is a film that, let's be honest, not a lot of people have seen. It's called Enora and it stars Mikey Madison, who surprised a lot of people by winning the Best Actress Oscar out from under Demi Moore, who was looking...

almost certain to win. So that was a mild shock. But yes, best picture, best director, I think best screenplay, original screenplay. So Nora is a big one. I do love that film. I,

I watched it and it made me want to go to Coney Island in New York immediately. And Brighton Beach is where they filmed a lot of it. It looks incredible. It looks brilliant. Not our Brighton Beach. Not our Brighton Beach. Their Brighton Beach. Their Brighton Beach. I'd recommend that. Yeah. It's not for everybody. It's proper art house. And it's sort of... It won at Cannes, the big fancy festival down in the south of France. And so it seems inevitable now. But wow, this was an open... Like, we didn't know who was going to win. Spare a thought for Conclave that only won one Oscar. And I know it's about...

a group of people high up in the Catholic Church voting for who should be the new Pope. But it's a thriller, and if you've not seen it, it's surprisingly great. It is, I agree. Ralph Fiennes. He's good. I think he's got talent. He'll go far. Yeah. So, Wicked did win an Oscar. Best Costume Design. And they did open the show with... Was it a surprise that it didn't win any of the big ones? I'd say not. Traditionally...

When it's got like a series, so if you look at Lord of the Rings, they'll wait until the last one and then push the awards into their direction then. So it might win next year? I think next year. Okay. What about Zoe Saldana? Yes. She won for Amelia Perez, a controversial movie to say the least, but she is a fine actress. You could even say she's a good actress when she accepts an award. She was a little a lot.

I agree with that. You know what? That's not even fair. She won an award. She was very excited. Her mum was in the room. I'd probably say something like that. Mum. Mum. Mum. Mummy. Mummy. Mama. Mama. Also, if you're shouting out for mummy... I'll play the mummy. Mummy.

I will play that mummy till the cows come home. I'm scared again. Yeah, so that was good. And so many prayers up as good as those held down. What was your favourite moment of the night? I've got to say the host, Conan O'Brien, needs to take a bow because who would take that gig? You're in front of all of Hollywood's great and good. There's been wildfires in LA. A lot is going on in the world right now. And he has to make some funny jokes. A bit tricky. He did a fantastic job. He also showed a bunch of people who were on stage

or in the room, their earliest headshots. And seeing Guy Pearce back in the 90s with quite, quite the hair, that was a treat. So I enjoyed that a lot. Oh, look at that. Plum, don't get mad at Greg's truth. Hey, don't get mad at my truth. What's your truth? My truth is that I think Bond's had more good Bonds than bad Bonds. I watch all of them and I love all of them and I'll watch anyone doing Bond.

Who's your favourite Bond? What is good? Sean Connery. No, what is good is true. A good story is good. That's why Casino Royale is a good one. No offence to Jason Statham, I know he listens, but I watch a lot of his movies that are unabashedly bad and I have a fantastic time. There you go, that's fine. Skyfall, great film and it's got a Home Alone bit in it as well. Yes, it does. With all the traps and things. Anyway, we'll do a Bondathon at some point.

Let's talk about things to look out for and things to watch. I mean, because Oscar stuff, a lot of it was quite serious stuff, like The Brutalist. By the way, I watched it last weekend. I had a lovely day in the cinema. You basically get a day. It's an entire, it's an interval. It's that long, you do an interval. The host, Conan Bryan, made a great joke about this, which was, I love The Brutalist, I just never wanted it to end. Unfortunately, it didn't. I think it is still going.

So you sit for about two hours and then you go, intermission. You're like, wow. I liked it though a lot. I love the idea that somebody in the intermission meets their other half just chatting by the popcorn. So if you've ever met someone...

At the cinema, I'd love to know. It's good. You know what it is? It's good value for money. Because I went to that cinema at 1pm and I came out at ten past five. Yeah, it's an all-you-can-eat Chinese buffet. That's what it is. Go on then, what are we looking forward to? Because there's obviously new films, big summer blockbusters coming. What have we got? It's the end of the awards season officially because we've had the Brits, we've got the Oscars. Now, what have we got to look forward to in the future? We've got big Marvel movies, of course, because it's summertime coming up on Saturday.

May 2nd, Thunderbolts, starring Florence Pugh and others. Then later on, we've got, starring Pedro Pascal, the Fantastic Four movie. So that's exciting. But for you and your dad, and whoever likes a good or bad Bond, there's also a new Mission Impossible.

with Tom Cruise. That's out this summer. We have a How to Train Your Dragon live-action remake. 28 years later, I'm so excited about the third in the series. Danny Boyle is back directing, and I'm super excited about that. So that's the horror thriller. Really, really good. And Zootopia, Wicked Part 2. There are really, really big movies coming out this year, and I know it sounds like they're all sequels and remakes and so on,

But I think right now, I just want to look forward to a big, unabashed popcorn shaking. Bit of fun, please. So can Mission Impossible in particular please deliver? Maybe Superman as well. That would be lovely. Do you think it'll be good? I think it'll be good. Mission Impossible. I keep seeing videos of him flying around on helicopters and stuff. Yeah, he's in a little yellow plane, which looks like it's being operated by a little rubber band. And he's like hanging off it going, hiya. We should get Tom Cruise on radio one day. I'll drop him a text.

And then a lovely chat with Melvin Adu. Morning, Big G. Good morning to you. Can we talk about Cole Palmer, please? Who's that? Okay. It's time for an education. Cole Palmer, one of the most talented footballers in the land. Oh, right, yeah. Okay. And also...

a culinary inspiration to the nation. He did an interview with Metro Sport and they were talking about this. What's your go-to meal deal? I don't think I've ever had a meal deal. What sandwich would you get? Jam? Jam.

He's going straight for a jam. Just jam sandwich. Look, I've not seen a jam sandwich in a meal deal option. Yeah. It's usually a chicken. It's usually a BLT. You can get your ham. You can get your cheese. You can get an egg mayo, that sort of thing. But you're not getting jam. Do you think he just said it? He lives in a world of his own. Yeah. And that's why people love him. And Sean, it's not just jam. It's jam with something. Okay.

Okay, so at 8 o'clock this morning, we sort of brought back Jan Slam, but we renamed it Jam Slam. Thanks to listener Mike for that idea. So we did Jam Slam today and we all had jam sandwiches because it was very much, it tends to be a thing you have when you're a kid. It tends to be a primary school thing. Yeah, it is. What were your sandwiches at school? Peanut butter. Not ever jam? Jam with stuff. So jam and butter.

Yeah, you have jam, obviously butter, that's a given. No, you say that. Some people just have the jam. In America, they put jam and peanut butter together. Yeah. Yeah, not me.

I'd never do such a thing. But you would do... Hang on. Peanut butter on toast? You're putting butter on then peanut butter? No, not toast. It has to be fresh bread. Sourdough only. Oh. Yeah. Or a scone. But apparently you're saying that's not bread. Well, it is. Yeah. It is a bread. It's not. It isn't. I guess it's sort of bread. If I'm going to have jam, it's going to be with something delicious. I can't just have jam on itself. No, but jam and butter.

Yeah. So you would have joined... Look, I've got the plate here. But a certain type of butter as well. So on this plate we had rounds and rounds of jam. Did you have some? White bread. Eight o'clock this morning, we all had... Grab a triangle. I've triangled mine. And in. All of us together. Quite sweet, isn't it? White bread. White bread, butter. Oh, my God.

That is the best. That was 8 o'clock this morning. That sounds like it was delicious. It was delicious. Any more left? Can we get one for Melb? I mean, do you know what? When you start your show, I'll pop down to the canteen. Oh, thanks, Greg. I'll get you a personally. How would you like it done? So, are you okay with white bread? I like what you did with the triangles. It tastes better when it's a triangle. Yeah, white bread is fine. There's something about, could you get the middle first? The triangle thing is nice because you're getting four...

chunks, you're getting four bites of the middle early on. Correct. That's what's so nice about the triangle. You take off the ends as well. The crust. Cross off? Don't want that. Okay, cross off. I'll have your crusts. I can be like your mum. I'll have your crusts. Amy, can I ask a question? When you were doing the jam sandwiches, the bread was very... It doesn't hold the butter very well, does it?

It wasn't the best bread in the world, no. But the butter, it really disturbed the surface. I thought I did a good job with the butter. You did. The one I made for Melvin and Ricky in there was a real hatchet job. And I was late for a meeting as well. Excuse being. Sorry, I was making jam sandwiches. Bye.

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