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OpenAI, Oracle Expand Stargate Project

2025/7/3
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Brodie Ford: 作为彭博社的记者,我报道了OpenAI与Oracle之间一项前所未有的协议,该协议涉及4.5吉瓦的电力,规模相当于四个半核反应堆,或为约三百五十万户家庭供电,可能是史上最大的云交易,涉及数百亿美元的芯片和电力。Oracle正在考虑威斯康星州、宾夕法尼亚州或德克萨斯州等地的多个数据中心选址,并计划扩建在阿比林的园区。对于Oracle来说,这是一个巨大的胜利,他们正在大力推动并改变其在基础设施和AI云计算领域的地位。OpenAI的交易将使Oracle的云业务收入增加三倍,达到每年300亿美元,但利润率可能会因芯片、电力和建设成本而受到限制。 Kunjan Sabani: 作为彭博行业研究的分析师,我认为NVIDIA和AMD等芯片制造商将从Oracle和OpenAI的扩展交易中受益,因为计算是基础设施的核心。Oracle正在增加其资本支出,并且是唯一没有定制芯片或ASIC计划的超大规模云提供商。Oracle的大部分资本支出将用于购买NVIDIA和AMD的GPU,其中包括AMD的13万个MI350,价值约30亿至40亿美元。4.5吉瓦的新数据中心建设,每吉瓦大约需要600亿美元的资本支出,即使保守估计,芯片也至少需要300亿美元。 Janet Mui: 作为RBC布莱恩多尔芬的市场分析主管,我认为对计算能力的需求是无限的,尽管之前有人担心深度学习可能会降低对计算能力的需求。人工智能的投资前景仍然非常广阔,特别是在半导体和云基础设施方面。对更便宜、更高效能源的需求将持续存在,超大规模企业正在投资核能。美国将继续在人工智能竞赛中领先,因为美国在能源生产方面基本自给自足,能源相对便宜。当前的就业数据呈现“金发姑娘”状态,好于预期的就业数据和较低的失业率,但工资增长放缓。科技行业盈利增长前景良好,人工智能投资明确,且有望实现更高的生产力。美国科技行业因其人工智能主题而具有吸引力,且降息将特别有利于增长领域。

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OpenAI and Oracle are expanding their Stargate project, securing a massive 4.5-gigawatt cloud computing deal. This unprecedented agreement will involve tens of billions of dollars in chips and power, significantly boosting Oracle's cloud business and benefiting chipmakers like NVIDIA and AMD.
  • OpenAI and Oracle expand Stargate project with a 4.5-gigawatt cloud deal
  • The deal is potentially the largest cloud deal ever, involving tens of billions of dollars
  • NVIDIA and AMD are expected to benefit significantly from the increased chip demand

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Bloomberg’s Ed Ludlow discuss OpenAI's deal with Oracle as they search for more compute capacity. Plus, a look at President Donald Trump's tax and spending bill as it nears a successful House vote. And the White House lifts some chip design software curbs on China.

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