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BTC231: Bitcoin Nation State Adoption Paradox - A Trojan Horse w/ Alex Gladstein (Bitcoin Podcast)

2025/4/23
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Alex Gladstein: 自比特币诞生以来,人们就对其未来发展方向进行了诸多猜测。有人认为,比特币将像特洛伊木马一样,被现有金融体系吸收,最终从内部改变这个系统。这一观点认为,即使像黑石和萨尔瓦多政府这样的机构并非出于人权目的而采用比特币,但他们最终会成为促进世界自由的帮凶。因为他们对比特币的推动,会增强比特币的网络效应,使其更有价值,更多人参与,最终成为更好的自由工具。国家对比特币的采用是成功的标志,而不是失败的标志。比特币的激励机制不同于法币系统,比特币越普及,作为自由工具就越强大。国家和企业的采用增强了比特币的网络效应,使比特币更容易被更多人用于自由目的。通过教授非营利组织如何有效地使用比特币筹款、支付工资和购买物资,可以使他们免受银行的控制。比特币不可能只被少数人使用,它的全球采用是不可避免的,即使其中包括一些我们不喜欢的人或机构。比特币与其他赋能个人的技术一样,虽然坏人也会使用它,但它对社会的影响是积极的。比特币可以将追求利润与无许可的金融解放结合起来,从内部改变系统。比特币为那些依赖于现有金融体系的国家提供了一种和平退出被剥削的机会。比特币可以帮助我们摆脱旧的、无情的金融体系,建立一个新的、更公平的系统。无论经济形势如何,我们都应该继续教育人们了解比特币,让它成为他们的避风港。这本书讲述了全球比特币抵抗运动的兴起、美元体系的历史及其后果,以及比特币如何改变这一切。如果美国采用比特币标准,许多全球经济问题,例如货币操纵,将不再那么重要。我们应该尽最大努力推动世界向比特币标准过渡。 Preston Pysh: 我认为关于国家采用比特币有很多错误的解读。那些认为比特币会失败的人,是因为他们认为强大的机构(政府或华尔街)永远无法被克服,他们的世界观是消极的。比特币是一个去中心化的系统,机构的参与不会影响个人使用比特币的能力,反而会改善比特币生态系统。英国前首相特拉斯的短暂任期和迅速下台,证明了现有的金融体系无法容忍挑战其权力和运作方式的政策。特拉斯在比特币会议上发表的言论,以及贝德福德发生的事件,表明比特币正在改变权力动态。比特币为面临困境的人权活动家带来了希望和力量,使他们能够继续开展工作。比特币的采用是从下往上的,它会影响当地政治,因为越来越多的人发现它对他们的生活有帮助。

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This chapter explores the controversial topic of nation-state Bitcoin adoption. It examines the paradox of governments embracing Bitcoin while some in the community express concern, and whether this adoption ultimately strengthens or undermines Bitcoin's role as a tool for freedom.
  • Bitcoin's potential as a 'Trojan horse' for freedom, transforming systems from within.
  • Debate on whether nation-state adoption is beneficial or detrimental to Bitcoin's decentralization.
  • Shifting public perception: from fears of government bans to concerns about over-adoption.

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Alex Gladstein unpacks the hidden power dynamics of financial privilege, the shifting terrain of surveillance, and why Bitcoin might be the most unexpected tool in the fight for human rights

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00 - Intro

08:23 - Why self-custody is essential to the philosophical core of financial freedom

13:12 - How grassroots Bitcoin movements are reshaping power dynamics

14:02 - The complex role of social media in Bitcoin advocacy

14:27 - What recent developments are challenging or reinforcing core beliefs

16:07 - How Bitcoin acts as a stealth disruptor of corrupt systems

17:29 - Real-world humanitarian uses of Bitcoin, including crisis response

18:49 - The implications of rising financial surveillance—even in democracies

19:43 - Why financial privilege blinds many in the West to global monetary injustice

21:07 - Where the next frontier of Bitcoin and human rights may emerge

49:03 - How writing a full-length book reframed the guest’s understanding of scale and resistance

Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.

**BOOKS AND RESOURCES**

Human Rights Foundation).

Bitcoin Is A Trojan Horse For Freedom)** **by Alex Gladstein.

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