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TIP689: My journey into financial independence w/ Stig Brodersen

2025/1/5
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Stig Brodersen: 本期播客,Stig Brodersen 分享了他走向财务自由的历程。他从29岁生日开始,制定了在45岁前实现财务独立的计划,但实际情况远比预期复杂。他回顾了创业初期The Investor's Podcast Network (TIP) 的发展历程,以及在过程中遇到的挑战和收获。他强调了热爱过程的重要性,以及创业初期收入远低于预期的现实。他认为大多数人高估一年能做的事情,低估十年能做的事情。 Stig Brodersen: 他认为2019年是事业的转折点,成功并非源于单一事件,而是众多小事的积累。他分享了在摩洛哥旅行时与朋友的对话,让他意识到TIP已经具备了成为一个可以持续运营和发展的业务的潜力。他强调了关注现金流而非仅仅追求一个具体的数字的重要性。 Stig Brodersen: 他指出大多数人并不真正想要财务独立,他们更看重眼前的舒适和便利,而非长期的财务自由。他认为财务自由是一种生活方式,需要持续的努力和坚持。 Stig Brodersen: 他探讨了财务独立所需的资金量,并介绍了4%规则作为一种估算方法。他认为拥有股权对在30多岁实现财务独立至关重要,而仅仅依靠工资则非常困难。他分享了他个人投资回报率和对未来回报率的保守估计,并以此说明如何定义其财务独立性。 Stig Brodersen: 他讨论了如何评估非上市资产的价值,并以其公司为例说明了估值过程中的复杂性和不确定性。他强调了实现财务独立后,更重要的是找到自己的目标和动力,并持续努力。他分享了他对财务独立的理解,以及他如何平衡生活中的可协商和不可协商的事项。 Stig Brodersen: 他还强调了避免生活方式膨胀的重要性,要控制支出,并按正确的顺序进行:先建立赚钱的引擎,再增加支出。他认为财务独立的旅程可能很孤独,需要找到志同道合的人一起努力。他分享了他对风险的看法,认为风险是主观的,取决于个人的技能、性格和经验。他鼓励听众找到适合自己的财务独立之路,并享受这个过程。

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Why do most people overestimate what they can achieve in a year but underestimate what they can achieve in a decade?

People often set unrealistic short-term goals due to impatience or lack of understanding of the time required for meaningful progress. Conversely, they underestimate long-term potential because they fail to account for compounding effects and incremental improvements over time.

What was the tipping point for Stig Brodersen in his journey to financial independence?

The tipping point for Stig was during a trip to Morocco in 2019, where he realized he could run his business with minimal involvement while focusing on growth. This moment marked a shift from self-employment to building a scalable business.

Why do most people not want to be financially independent?

Most people prioritize immediate comfort and convenience over the long-term sacrifices required for financial independence. While many desire financial freedom in theory, they are unwilling to adopt the disciplined lifestyle and mindset necessary to achieve it.

How does money contribute to happiness according to Stig Brodersen?

Money can reduce stress by solving financial problems and providing access to better healthcare, experiences, and time with loved ones. While it doesn’t guarantee happiness, it can create conditions that make it easier to achieve a fulfilling life.

How much money does one need to retire based on the 4% rule?

The 4% rule suggests that you need 25 times your annual expenses to retire. For example, if you need $100,000 per year, you would require $2.5 million in investable assets to sustain this lifestyle indefinitely.

Why is equity important for achieving financial independence?

Equity in a business or investments can generate significant cash flows and wealth over time. Relying solely on a salary is less efficient, as it typically requires decades of climbing the corporate ladder and is prone to lifestyle inflation.

How does Stig Brodersen value private businesses?

Private businesses are typically valued using multiples of their pre-tax profits. For example, a business with $1.5 million in pre-tax profit might be valued at 5-8 times earnings, depending on factors like growth potential, recurring revenue, and market conditions.

What is the importance of having a 'why' after achieving financial independence?

Once financial independence is achieved, having a clear purpose or 'why' is crucial to maintain fulfillment and direction. For Stig, this includes connecting with interesting people, empowering his team, and pursuing personal growth.

How does Stig Brodersen avoid lifestyle creep?

Stig avoids lifestyle creep by prioritizing building a cash-generating engine first and limiting personal spending to 50% of income. He emphasizes disciplined budgeting and investing the remainder to ensure long-term financial stability.

Why is the journey to financial independence often a lonely one?

The journey is lonely because most people prioritize immediate gratification over long-term financial goals. Stig notes that few outside his network share his commitment to financial independence, making it difficult to find like-minded individuals to share the journey with.

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Stig Brodersen shares his journey to financial independence, emphasizing the importance of loving the journey and the unexpected challenges of entrepreneurship. He highlights the initial struggles of his podcast, The Investor's Podcast Network, and how perseverance and a passion for investing led to success.
  • Overestimation of yearly achievements and underestimation of decadal progress.
  • Initial financial struggles and the importance of loving the process.
  • The tipping point – a shift in mindset towards running the podcast as a business.

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In today's episode, Stig Brodersen podcasts about his journey into financial freedom. 

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00 - Intro

01:45 - Why people overestimate what they can do in a year and underestimate what they can do in a year

05:14 - The tipping point for Stig

08:28 - Why most people don’t want to be financially independent. 

11:58 - Why money can – sort of – buy you happiness

15:55 - How much money one needs to retire

17:00 - How to define financial independence

18:22 - Why you (maybe) need equity to achieve financial independence

21:56 - How to value private businesses 

26:42 - What do you do when you reach your number? What is your why? 

30:47 - Why you should have negotiables and non-negotiables 

33:01 - How to avoid lifestyle creeps

37:34 - Why financial independence is a lonely journey

41:49 - Why the journey is the best part

Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.

BOOKS AND RESOURCES

  • Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community)** **to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members.

  • Stig’s blog post) on his portfolio and track record since 2014.

  • Stig and Clay’s podcast episode)** **on Stig’s return since 2014 | Youtube Video).

  • Check out the criteria of companies in the UK) that Stig is interested in buying. 

  • Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here).

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